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Deitre Cibrus
Cereal Killerz The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.12.02 01:49:00 -
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ideas?! more cpu pg ... never flew deimos before as price seemed too high, but now ive got some isk together and it's been given a boost can someone help? -----------
Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
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Epsillon
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.02 01:54:00 -
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Still a terrible ship, very susceptible to nos.
Get a Myrmidon for about 1/4th of the price.
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Deitre Cibrus
Cereal Killerz The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.12.02 01:57:00 -
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Only got Battlecruisers 3, still worth it? -----------
Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
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Epsillon
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.02 02:13:00 -
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It was only a suggestion for a different purchase, feel free to chose something you would be more effective in.
Deimos is too slow, too heavy, too cap dependent to be worth the 180 or so million ISK. You would be better with a battleship, at least you can insure it. If you really want to fly a HAC save more and buy an Ishtar.
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GO MaZ
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.02 03:40:00 -
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It's still pretty crap, but your best bet is to stack powergrid mods on it, fit with a 1600 tungsten, small rep and a med injector with 400's (less boost overall than 800 but more often) - put a energized reactive II on it and tank it passively. Still not very strong, but less so than the Ion II unplated setups which just dont have the HP now...
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slothe
Caldari Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.02 04:28:00 -
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a brutix with setup like-
5x electron t2 2x med nos
mwd web scram med cap booster + 800 charges
1 med rep t2 1 small rep t2 3x t2 active armour hardners
5x valkyrie drones
i flew this pre kali and could beat most hacs 1v1 incl deimos and vagabond (has to get close enough obviously). i wouldnt engage an ishtar tho.
post kali it gets much more hp + agiloity boost of 20% (wtf) so i imagine itspowered now.
tho as it costs much less than a deimos, firepower is pretty much as good, tanking is better, agility is the same or better, hp are much better its all round better. which is a shame as i like the deimos.
i have a faction pimped deimos ive been waiting to use. im tempted to strip the deimos and fit the stuff on a brutix.
train bc to lvl 4 tho will make them much better for you andf wont take much time.
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.02 05:33:00 -
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Edited by: FraXy on 02/12/2006 05:34:46 After some heavy losses lately i switched down to a Thorax and had 2 success kills in it.
5x Heavy Electron II Y-T8 Mwd, Fleeting 20k, X5 Webber Medium T2 Repper, Emergency DCU, 2x Magnetic Stab II`s, 800mm Crystalline
Dronebay - 5x Medium T2 Drones
Does 480-550 DPS depending on what kind of drones.
Has taken a Muninn down solo, poorly fitted one, but still. 
Second was Thorax (me), Lachesis vs Deimos, Cyclone. Cyclone was only ship that survived the massacre. And the Lachesis didn`t have chance to dampen their lock gone so it was a head-on fight.
About 15-20 mill loss per ship and it packs quite the punch.
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Deitre Cibrus
Cereal Killerz The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.12.02 13:59:00 -
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Deimos setups please:( -----------
Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
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LWMaverick
Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.02 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Deitre Cibrus Deimos setups please:(
5 med electrons small nosf
10mn mwd 7.5/20k scrambler Med cap injector
Med rep Dcu eanm MFS x 2
5 x valks
(all t2/best named/faction)
/Mav
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Glassback
M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.02 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Deitre Cibrus Deimos setups please:(
5xHeavy Neutrons T2
MWD, Web, 20km Scram
3xMagStab II's, Med Rep II, Explosive Hard II, Grid thingy.
G.
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about.
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ThunderGodThor
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.02 16:38:00 -
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Read this thread. Its now even worse off in kali. It will in great detail tell you whats wrong. Personally i think the deimos will make a great pve ship now as it cant do any thing else.
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Nagissa Kaworu
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.04 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Nagissa Kaworu on 04/12/2006 23:42:01 I run:
5x Ion II (void, null, antimatter) 1x (named) MWD, 1x X5 web, 1x Cap recharger 1x MAR II, 1x EANM II, 1x DC, 2x Mag stab II, 1x Explosive harderner II
5x Hammerhead II drones.
I dont use a scrambler cause there is always someone else who scrambles. All i can say is i love my Deimos it might not be the best HAC out there but it looks awesome and deals tons of damage its like having a sledge hammer in your gang Its not always about flying the best ship out there, the deimos has flaws but **** it, its an awesome ship and i like it.
Nag.
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Breed Love
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.04 23:47:00 -
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6 small nos 3 large shield booster II 2 1600mm plates, 4 rcus.
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LWMaverick
Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.04 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Breed Love 6 small nos 3 large shield booster II 2 1600mm plates, 4 rcus.

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Necromancer D
Pirates of Destruction Union
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Posted - 2006.12.24 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Breed Love 6 small nos 3 large shield booster II 2 1600mm plates, 4 rcus.


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Gilail
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Posted - 2006.12.30 02:25:00 -
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Edited by: Gilail on 30/12/2006 02:33:56 Tbh, I dont know why everyone keeps whining. First of all, the main role of the deimos seems to be dealing damage and for that it performs very good. As with any other ship, awsome tank plus awsome damage is impossible. For me I found 2 fittings that seem to work pretty damn good:
High Damage
4 x t2 neutron (void, null, antimatter) 1 x t2 electron 1 x small nos
MWD small cap booster (100 charges) web/scram (for solo fit scram of course)
t2 rep / corpum-a type repper (yeah expensive but its worth it! reason is in the rigs) RCU 400mm rolled tung plate DCU/EANM 2 x mag stab II
auxiliary nano pump anti-explosive pump
I get 11.7 dmg mod (only HAC lvl3 atm) with about 3sec ROF for the neutrons.
Medium Damage
5 x t2 ion 1 x med nos
MWD small cap booster web/scram
t2 / corpum repper RCU 400mm plate DCU exp hardener eanm
auxiliary nano pump anti-explosive pump
Dmg mod is 7.2 with my current skills. This fitting requires AWU 3!
Both fittings perform especially well against battleships and still good against well tanked battlecruisers like Drake (the pilot had good tanking/misile skills, so dont cry noob). I survived easily the MWD approach to a maelstrom that was 70km away. He was using exp missiles as well.
Weaknesses are cap but tell me one turret ship that does not suffer from that. If you see its role as a main damage dealer in a gang or even as a solo ganking ship for a maximum of 2 BS its a great ship! So stop whining and use it! 
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El Marchetto
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Posted - 2006.12.30 02:52:00 -
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Yes the Deimos will make a magnificent ship, when the price drops to 30mil that is...until then, its worse than useless 
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Kulmid
Nubs. Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.30 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Glassback
Originally by: Deitre Cibrus Deimos setups please:(
5xHeavy Neutrons T2
MWD, Web, 20km Scram
3xMagStab II's, Med Rep II, Explosive Hard II, Grid thingy.
G.
Thank you, I completely agree
anyone who flies a tank Deimos is asking to die, fit with that setup and 5x Hammerhead II's you will be doing around 700 DPS, usually you can kill anythign shy of a BS before it does much to you
Gank Deimos is FTW
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.12.30 05:54:00 -
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Originally by: ThunderGodThor Read this thread. Its now even worse off in kali. It will in great detail tell you whats wrong. Personally i think the deimos will make a great pve ship now as it cant do any thing else.
Blaster ships got a boost and the deimos specifically got a boost.
So i dont see how it can be "even worse"
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The only real problem with the Deimos is that a brutix fills the role that it is designed for almost as well if not better[definitly better against larger ships].
The Brutix is slower, but does more damage, has more cap, and has a tanking bonus which the Deimos does not.
And an extra mid slot as well.[1 less low though]
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un5een
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.30 06:17:00 -
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5 x Heavy Neutron Blaster II Small Nosferatu II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
3 x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Medium Armor Repairer II Reactor Control Unit II Armor Explosive Hardener II
it's kind of a secret weapon in small gangs... hide urself until the fight begins, then sneak into the field, do a quick pray that no-one noticed u, and deal roughly 600dps with has lvl5, med blaster spec lvl5 and some kinky implants nearly 750dps are possible.
but then again comes the cheaper astarte which can easily deal over 1000dps :-D ----------------------------------------------- there are 6 million ways to die... chose one! - i chose LAG
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.30 06:59:00 -
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Edited by: Aeaus on 30/12/2006 07:01:02
Originally by: Kulmid anyone who flies a tank Deimos is asking to die.
I would disagree entirely, although I'm sure that 23867 HP of Hardened Armor with an average resist of 82.86%, well, that could warm up anybodies day ;)
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Neon Genesis
Gallente Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2006.12.30 10:09:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 30/12/2006 10:09:26
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: ThunderGodThor Read this thread. Its now even worse off in kali. It will in great detail tell you whats wrong. Personally i think the deimos will make a great pve ship now as it cant do any thing else.
Blaster ships got a boost and the deimos specifically got a boost.
So i dont see how it can be "even worse"
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The only real problem with the Deimos is that a brutix fills the role that it is designed for almost as well if not better[definitly better against larger ships].
The Brutix is slower, but does more damage, has more cap, and has a tanking bonus which the Deimos does not.
And an extra mid slot as well.[1 less low though]
They got less HP boosting than other ships in the patch.
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Alex SOKOLOFF
Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.30 14:23:00 -
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Medium Rep wont save you when you start getting damage. Small Rep + big Plate > Med Rep + small plate
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Pattern Clarc
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.12.30 14:31:00 -
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5x Neutron Blasters II Small nos
10mn MWD II Medium Electrochmical Cap Injector Web/warp scrabler (II?)
MAR II 2x MFS II EANM II Explosive hardener II Internal Forcefield
5x Valkryes II
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RIGS 2x +10% pg rigs (haen't had a chance to figure out how the t2's work yet)
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.12.30 14:58:00 -
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5x ion II, med nos
MWD, web, scramble
MAR II, explosive II, DCU, 2x MFS II, 1x 400mm plate
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Zyrtan Keb'Lektar
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.30 15:59:00 -
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I don't understand that ppl still buy the Deimos. It's not worth the current market price and it can't compete to a Zealot or Vagabond or Cerberus.
Better train for amarr T2 and fit a Zealot with mwd, 1600mm, dual small rep tank and pulses. Gives 8k+ armor (with slave set over 10k), good resists, good dmg and 1650+ m/s.
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Shi Mun
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.30 16:16:00 -
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The thing about the deimos is thats its not as good as the price suggests. There are plenty of other ships that are cheaper and far more effective, such as a brutix. Basicly, its just not worth its value. --------------------------- HAHA! your jammers suck now! Oh wait whats happening to my scorpion... |

Constantine Arcanum
Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.
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Posted - 2006.12.30 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Breed Love 6 small nos 3 large shield booster II 2 1600mm plates, 4 rcus.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes |

FireMonk
Caldari black viper corp
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Posted - 2006.12.30 16:51:00 -
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The biggest problem i see with the deimos is that it cant tank for *#%$. It can dish out a hell of a lot of damage it just cant take any. -----------------------
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.12.30 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zyrtan Keb'Lektar I don't understand that ppl still buy the Deimos. It's not worth the current market price and it can't compete to a Zealot or Vagabond or Cerberus.
Better train for amarr T2 and fit a Zealot with mwd, 1600mm, dual small rep tank and pulses. Gives 8k+ armor (with slave set over 10k), good resists, good dmg and 1650+ m/s.
I fly a zealot extensively and I'd love to know how you get 8k+ armor good damage and nice resists with what you named
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