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The Snowman Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:08:00 - [31] As I have breached the fair user policy of my ISP - Tiscali, they no longer alow me to play Eve (any many other games) during the hours of 6-11pm. so providers already have the means to pick and chose what you can and cant access. Even in Europe. Also, in Korea and china etc, there is already a law in place preventing users from playing MMO's for longer than 3 hours before having a 1 hour break. It would be very easy for this kind of scheme to be implemented. <------------> Poker RPG 60 jumps 'Flop' by..
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:13:00 - [32] Originally by: The Snowman As I have breached the fair user policy of my ISP - Tiscali, they no longer alow me to play Eve (any many other games) during the hours of 6-11pm. That's harsh - you need to change your ISP. MMORPGs aren't usually that hard to cater for. Eve should be even easier due to it's low bandwidth and relative tolerance for latency. -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] Linux is only free if your time is worthless
Lojack Girl	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:16:00 - [33] tiscali did the same to me so i sent them this leeter and they let me back on :) hope you can use it as its a laugh :P : put this in sugject: FUP WARNING Email too: [email protected] I write to inform you that i have sorted out the problem with my Internet and no longer should be on the FUP! The first FUP warning i received occurred less than 12 hours after i first connected to the Internet this was due to the fact that my computer had been off line for 3 months and it had to download lots of viruses definitions and patches that i could not stop as they where automated the other two FUP warnings where received within 24 hours so i could not act on them before i got disconnected :(, these were caused on by a game called GIULDWARS that i played i did not know at the time but it downloads the game as you play it and as i only had the bare bones client it needed to download more than 9 GB of data something i didn't know till i started looking at my problem a few days ago! Other possible causes highlighted on forums were the use of YouTube and other video streaming sites, something that wasn't mentioned on your site or emails. obviously i have stopped using this site now that i know it use up bandwidth something i didn't know and you failed to warn me about in the FUP email, other problems highlighted in forums where unsecured wireless routers. This turned out to be the major contributer in my case as according to my router there were 3 people connected to it but as far as i knew, i was the only one in the house using it. i have now password protected the router so that only i can use it and no one can steal my Internet, another thing you did not mention on your site or in your emails. According to your site P2P programs are what get you disconnected, i don't use them as all my downloads are legal from ?direct 2 drive?so I didn't think it effected me. And i did not know at the time that legal downloads got you disconnected too, as your site was unclear. I now know this and WILL NOT download them during PEAK TIMES! Basically i have now reduced the amount i download, it was previously high as it was unclear to me and your site/emails what causes high bandwidth! I have since fixed problems that caused it and have altered my behavior so that it is reduced. I hope that this is sufficient to have me removed from the FUP program as currently i am unable to use the net between 6 and 11 pm and if i am unable to resume normal Internet use i will be forced to cancel this connection as i am not able to play on-line games that i pay a subscription for. This means i am paying money for something i cant use! Thank you.
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:17:00 - [34] Originally by: The Snowman As I have breached the fair user policy of my ISP - Tiscali, they no longer alow me to play Eve (any many other games) during the hours of 6-11pm. Hi? What? What did you do to get this treatment? ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Zin Rathbone	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:18:00 - [35] Edited by: Zin Rathbone on 04/12/2006 15:22:49 Never going to happen. I work for a telcom compnay in RL. There is intense competition for broadband customers, at least here in the U.S. It would be economic suicide for a provider to try this, if it is possible at all. Bandwidth is bandwidth, you get so much, do what you want with it. As for your tv vs. the internet thing, companies offer both. Cable companies agressivly market broadband and voice services along with TV programing, and traditional voice/telcom companies are starting to offer TV programing as well through fiber optic networks. TV and the internet are increasing coming into your home over the same wire.
Trespasser Caldari e X i l e	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:21:00 - [36] well last i heard about this was alot of majoy companys were suing to stop this... and tbh i dont see this happening anytime soon because it would drive america out of business. Almost everyone uses the internet so unless everyone in the US Goverement wants the US To die and go bank rupt yeah this will go threw other wize i dont see it happening My name is Trespasser and I approved this Message!
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:21:00 - [37] Originally by: Lojack Girl tiscali did the same to me so i sent them this leeter and they let me back on :) hope you can use it as its a laugh :P : put this in sugject: FUP WARNING Email too: [email protected] <stuff> Wow. I thought it was Ireland that was supposed to have bad ISPs? I can hammer the connection, direct downloading as fast as the connection goes, or using P2P programs running as many open connections as the router can handle, downloading several times the monthly bandwidth 'limit', and the ISP does not seem to care...? I feel all lucky and stuff now ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:23:00 - [38] Originally by: The Snowman As I have breached the fair user policy of my ISP - Tiscali, they no longer alow me to play Eve (any many other games) during the hours of 6-11pm. Thats harsh. time to switch ISPs?! -----------------------------------------------
Makree Ubar Asteroid Hugging Collective	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:24:00 - [39] See that lump in your trousers, no, not that little one. The one you keep your money in. That's right, it called your wallet. Unless you are married, it is you that determines where the contents of this wallet goes. And if you choose to give your money to an ISP that practices net nutrality(sic) then you get what you deserve. Instead find an ISP that gives you what you want and give them your money. Then they get bigger and the big, bad evil ISPs go bust.
Brady	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:24:00 - [40] But didn't this neutrality thing kick off because telecoms companies in the US kicked off that they have to treat certain lines with priority because they are broadband data lines, and this costs the companies alot more? They asked the regulator why they have to absorb this extra cost, and why they should prioritise lines. The regulators then went to the government to ask for permission to charge consumers for this prioritisation, thus if you want it you pay for it. This applies to the nature of the content aswell as the nature of the lines. This may not be 100% correct but getting a dodgy memory from age.
Lisento Slaven Amarr The Drekla Consortium Kurai Komichi	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:28:00 - [41] Aren't there ISP's that have bandwidth caps to prevent you from "getting more than what you pay for"? I have had friends I play games with tell me they can't play for fear of using up the rest of their bandwidth allocated to them for the month/week/day etc. Or aren't there ISP's that limit your transfer speeds to a certain amount, and if you want better speed you have to upgrade your package? This just sounds like a data cap on your internet connection. When you hit the cap your internet gets turned off (because you didn't pay for more than that). Right? --- Lisento Slaven wants to be a Space Whaler in EVE. Put in space whales!
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:34:00 - [42] Originally by: Lojack Girl There arnt as many true ISP's as you think for instance there are only 3 TRUE ISP's in the UK that provide internet faster than 56K: BT Cable Saterlite Uplink <5% Cable is NTL"Virgin Comunications" and Cable. and DSL connections are all offered by BT ie tiscali or pipex just rent of BT and you pay them so anything BT does will effect all of the smaller broadband outlets the US isnt much different when it comes to broadband. you have oddball choices like Speakeasy DSL but in general you have Cable(you cant choose your cableco at all its hardlocked per region in a lame franchise system), Telco DSL(or Fiber if blessed by Verizon) again you cant choose your telco. and to the person who said Bell not knowing much about US setups, you arent too far off because AT&T is reforming into its former scale.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:34:00 - [43] Originally by: Lisento Slaven Aren't there ISP's that have bandwidth caps to prevent you from "getting more than what you pay for"? I have had friends I play games with tell me they can't play for fear of using up the rest of their bandwidth allocated to them for the month/week/day etc. Or aren't there ISP's that limit your transfer speeds to a certain amount, and if you want better speed you have to upgrade your package? This just sounds like a data cap on your internet connection. When you hit the cap your internet gets turned off (because you didn't pay for more than that). Right? You're probably referring to Download Limits, which have largely faded out (in the UK) to be replaced by Fair Usage Aggreements. They meant that as soon as you had downloaded a certain quota of data a month, you got cut off- most lame. However, it was generally in the GB range, so low bandidth games like EVE would affect it not-a-jot. -----------------------------------------------
The Snowman Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:35:00 - [44] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: The Snowman As I have breached the fair user policy of my ISP - Tiscali, they no longer alow me to play Eve (any many other games) during the hours of 6-11pm. Hi? What? What did you do to get this treatment? hi, I excesivly downloaded during the peak hours of 6-11pm. I think it was when I downloaded about 500mb file, which, at one point was the eve client itself. another time it was the Guildwars client.. Other times where when I was downloading from newsgroups. I had 3 warnings before they did it too me. The odd thing is that any and all web access is still fine, I can 'you-tube' all night with no problems.. but anything that connects outside of a web browser you just cant connect at all. And yes, it is time to change my ISP, but that means being tied down to another 12 month contract, which in my current circumstances isnt a good idea. <------------> Poker RPG 60 jumps 'Flop' by..
Jason Marshall Infinite Innovations Astral Wolves	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:44:00 - [45] Originally by: qui arthell That is true, but alot of ISP's have monopoly's in certain areas, hence why some people are still forced to use 56k. Also, if all the ISP's banded together and agreed to do this (which is essentially what they are trying to do) they will all make more money, while they all keep their respective customer bases. This is a major issue that has been floating around for a good while now. Havent read through everything so im not sure if this has been said. But there are "Conflict of interest" lows that prevent this kind of things. COrperations cant come together and agree to not out do eachother, it would take the free out of free market essentially. Tacky lens flares in sigs 4tw!
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:50:00 - [46] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Lisento Slaven Aren't there ISP's that have bandwidth caps to prevent you from "getting more than what you pay for"? I have had friends I play games with tell me they can't play for fear of using up the rest of their bandwidth allocated to them for the month/week/day etc. Or aren't there ISP's that limit your transfer speeds to a certain amount, and if you want better speed you have to upgrade your package? This just sounds like a data cap on your internet connection. When you hit the cap your internet gets turned off (because you didn't pay for more than that). Right? You're probably referring to Download Limits, which have largely faded out (in the UK) to be replaced by Fair Usage Aggreements. They meant that as soon as you had downloaded a certain quota of data a month, you got cut off- most lame. However, it was generally in the GB range, so low bandidth games like EVE would affect it not-a-jot. Sounds like I'd rather stick to download limits (which are still the standard in Ireland for the most part). My limit is 30GB a month, but I usually download at least twice that. However, even before I tested the waters beyond the 'limit', 30GB is a fair enough amount, and is a hard line. The FUAs sound like they read 'you can use the connection as much as you want up to a fair limit; fair being defined soley by us at a time of our choosing'. ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Taedrin Gallente Mercatoris Technologies	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:56:00 - [47] If net neutrality stopped being enforced by law, I think I would buy a couple WI-MAX towers, and hook them up to an OC192 connection and host my own net neutral ISP...
Polinus	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:00:00 - [48] Originally by: The Snowman Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: The Snowman As I have breached the fair user policy of my ISP - Tiscali, they no longer alow me to play Eve (any many other games) during the hours of 6-11pm. Hi? What? What did you do to get this treatment? hi, I excesivly downloaded during the peak hours of 6-11pm. I think it was when I downloaded about 500mb file, which, at one point was the eve client itself. another time it was the Guildwars client.. Other times where when I was downloading from newsgroups. I had 3 warnings before they did it too me. The odd thing is that any and all web access is still fine, I can 'you-tube' all night with no problems.. but anything that connects outside of a web browser you just cant connect at all. And yes, it is time to change my ISP, but that means being tied down to another 12 month contract, which in my current circumstances isnt a good idea. lol that is ridiculowsly stupiud. I live in a 3rd world country and I can stay 24/7 downloading at full speed for a year and they can't and won't do anything against me. Ipayed for acces for the month so its unlimited. And if the speed simply drops under the max hired speed for too many hours I simply complain and they adjust or givme reinbursment in money. Love to be in an advanced country :)
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:02:00 - [49] Edited by: Plutoinum on 04/12/2006 16:08:13 Edited by: Plutoinum on 04/12/2006 16:05:18 Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 04/12/2006 14:13:31 Hehe, I'm glad that in europe pay per view and other such corporate #%#$^#$%#@% has been a consistent failure since it crossed the pond :p Let's hope it stays this way. In germany the german telekom agressively builts-up adsl2+ and vdsl in many cities for tv over internet. Got a 16mbit dsl connection myself now, but I'm not interested at all to watch TV over it. I just want the flatrate for gaming and stuff. Well, their goal will surely be to get as much money as they can out for their bandwith. Honestely I even wonder, if they got the routers etc. for TV over internet. If they promote video on demand, I believe they'll kill the network for gaming. Then multi-casting can't work anymore and I doubt that their hardware is ready to supply each household with their own or even multiple independant high-bandwith media streams. I'm really afraid of that. CTD/con-loss vs. log-out. A proposal for a fix.
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:03:00 - [50] Originally by: The Snowman Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: The Snowman As I have breached the fair user policy of my ISP - Tiscali, they no longer alow me to play Eve (any many other games) during the hours of 6-11pm. Hi? What? What did you do to get this treatment? hi, I excesivly downloaded during the peak hours of 6-11pm. I think it was when I downloaded about 500mb file, which, at one point was the eve client itself. another time it was the Guildwars client.. Other times where when I was downloading from newsgroups. That is by no definition excessive use. That's par for the course on broadband. If they can't offer a proper service they should just not try tbh. This should be the other way around. Instead of them going after you because you are overusing your connection, you should be going after them for giving you hassle over using your connection in a completely reasonable manner. If they really need to take measures like this they obviously can't provide a decent level of service, which is what you are paying for. (Unless these people are some kind of ultra-budget ISP who charge next to nothing for low capacity connections...?) ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Lojack Girl	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:05:00 - [51] Originally by: Lisento Slaven Aren't there ISP's that have bandwidth caps to prevent you from "getting more than what you pay for"? I have had friends I play games with tell me they can't play for fear of using up the rest of their bandwidth allocated to them for the month/week/day etc. Or aren't there ISP's that limit your transfer speeds to a certain amount, and if you want better speed you have to upgrade your package? This just sounds like a data cap on your internet connection. When you hit the cap your internet gets turned off (because you didn't pay for more than that). Right? this is not the case a fair usage limit is used to disconect you when you are on a unlimited or open access conniction like i was "tiscali unlimited" what this means is a unlimited conection is unlimeted unless you trie to use it and reach a limit at which piont they discounect you for being a heivy user on an unlimeted conection which you HAVE paid for:(
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:16:00 - [52] Originally by: Lojack Girl Originally by: Lisento Slaven Aren't there ISP's that have bandwidth caps to prevent you from "getting more than what you pay for"? I have had friends I play games with tell me they can't play for fear of using up the rest of their bandwidth allocated to them for the month/week/day etc. Or aren't there ISP's that limit your transfer speeds to a certain amount, and if you want better speed you have to upgrade your package? This just sounds like a data cap on your internet connection. When you hit the cap your internet gets turned off (because you didn't pay for more than that). Right? this is not the case a fair usage limit is used to disconect you when you are on a unlimited or open access conniction like i was "tiscali unlimited" what this means is a unlimited conection is unlimeted unless you trie to use it and reach a limit at which piont they discounect you for being a heivy user on an unlimeted conection which you HAVE paid for:( Never buy anything which is 'unlimited' if it must physically have some limit. They are, by definition, lying, and thus will screw you at some point. 'Unlimited'+'Fair Use'=LOL Run Away LOL /me has bad memories of a web host offering 'unlimited' space and bandwidth. ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:16:00 - [53] What the OP is referring to is not a financial decision, but a political one in the USA. The issue at hand is not only the money ISP would make, the big proponent of Pay/per Pocket type was AT&T and Verizon, but also the implication of free speech and equal access to information. The republicans were pushing for this for a very long time, and not only due to the fact that they will receive large compensation from the lobbies of the mentioned companies, but also because - the penny drops - the more popular and free-speaking Blogs and Website will be effectively shut down by this change. In other words, the independent, non-mainstream Internet media and publications will be effectively curtailed in their ability to present different points of view. Only the ones who have allot of capital or special contracts with the ISP will be able to present the information to the public. So, it has to do with he freedom of information and free speech. Democrats, and some more sane Republicans have shut down the proposal about 7 months or so ago. It is still being worked and reworked by the majority of the Republican Party. In other words, if this ever goes through it will be akin to Censorship, playing EVE and other online MMOs will be the least of our problems. (As an Afterthought: this thread ought to be in OP Experience.)
Plymer Ization ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:17:00 - [54] Originally by: The Snowman Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: The Snowman As I have breached the fair user policy of my ISP - Tiscali, they no longer alow me to play Eve (any many other games) during the hours of 6-11pm. Hi? What? What did you do to get this treatment? hi, I excesivly downloaded during the peak hours of 6-11pm. I think it was when I downloaded about 500mb file, which, at one point was the eve client itself. another time it was the Guildwars client.. Other times where when I was downloading from newsgroups. I had 3 warnings before they did it too me. The odd thing is that any and all web access is still fine, I can 'you-tube' all night with no problems.. but anything that connects outside of a web browser you just cant connect at all. And yes, it is time to change my ISP, but that means being tied down to another 12 month contract, which in my current circumstances isnt a good idea. That's rediculous. I'm glad I live in Canada. My current ISP is Cogeco Cable, and my previous DSL provider was a local company, Jet2Net. I never had a download cap on my ADSL, I had excellent speeds, upgrades for free, excellent tech support, and the only reason I switched providers was when I moved to an area where the cable was available. Where I live, I can choose to pay $45/month for 10Mb cable or $45/month 4.5Mb ADSL, both with no download caps, speed caps, or Fair-Use policies. No limits on P2P programs, etc on either ISP. There are a few ISPs to choose from in my region; Cogeco (Cable), Bell Sympatico (ADSL), Jet2Net (ADSL), AOL Canada (lawlernet), Rogers (Cable), and numerous wireless satellite companies - and I'm in a fairly rural area. I really feel for those people who have to deal with being shafted by lack of competition and bureaucracies dictating the freedom of the internet. <3 Canada.
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:18:00 - [55] Originally by: Plymer Ization Originally by: The Snowman Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: The Snowman As I have breached the fair user policy of my ISP - Tiscali, they no longer alow me to play Eve (any many other games) during the hours of 6-11pm. Hi? What? What did you do to get this treatment? hi, I excesivly downloaded during the peak hours of 6-11pm. I think it was when I downloaded about 500mb file, which, at one point was the eve client itself. another time it was the Guildwars client.. Other times where when I was downloading from newsgroups. I had 3 warnings before they did it too me. The odd thing is that any and all web access is still fine, I can 'you-tube' all night with no problems.. but anything that connects outside of a web browser you just cant connect at all. And yes, it is time to change my ISP, but that means being tied down to another 12 month contract, which in my current circumstances isnt a good idea. That's rediculous. I'm glad I live in Canada. My current ISP is Cogeco Cable, and my previous DSL provider was a local company, Jet2Net. I never had a download cap on my ADSL, I had excellent speeds, upgrades for free, excellent tech support, and the only reason I switched providers was when I moved to an area where the cable was available. Where I live, I can choose to pay $45/month for 10Mb cable or $45/month 4.5Mb ADSL, both with no download caps, speed caps, or Fair-Use policies. No limits on P2P programs, etc on either ISP. There are a few ISPs to choose from in my region; Cogeco (Cable), Bell Sympatico (ADSL), Jet2Net (ADSL), AOL Canada (lawlernet), Rogers (Cable), and numerous wireless satellite companies - and I'm in a fairly rural area. I really feel for those people who have to deal with being shafted by lack of competition and bureaucracies dictating the freedom of the internet. <3 Canada. I heard Canada had great Internet access. Guess it was true. ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:21:00 - [56] Edited by: Plutoinum on 04/12/2006 16:22:21 Originally by: Lojack Girl this is not the case a fair usage limit is used to disconect you when you are on a unlimited or open access conniction like i was "tiscali unlimited" what this means is a unlimited conection is unlimeted unless you trie to use it and reach a limit at which piont they discounect you for being a heivy user on an unlimeted conection which you HAVE paid for:( I hope that I haven't signed some rubbish like that, too. I've a contract over one year for unlimited download with 16mbit, like I said. Theoretically, if I was connected to highspeed servers 24/7 and had the hard drives, I could download almost 5 terabytes each month. Usually I stay between a 1-5 GByte I guess. So less than 0.1 percent of the theoretical limit. Would be a joke, if I get a mail once I download some more. lol. I pay 60 bucks to not have to think about how much I download and to use it like I want. CTD/con-loss vs. log-out. A proposal for a fix.
Iyanah Minmatar Mining Munitions and Mayhem	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:24:00 - [57] Originally by: Major Stormer As far as i know this "problem" was already sorted out. Its back again you mean? indeed, this is a throw back to the old dial-up "paying for calls" to connect to the internet. a practaice that went out back in the dark ages, when communication still took place by use of horse mounted courier... or sometime around then. ========================================== Iy
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:36:00 - [58] Edited by: Jinx Barker on 04/12/2006 16:38:37 For those who want to know what the OP is refering to: http://www.democraticmedia.org/issues/JCnetneutrality.html And this: http://www.democraticmedia.org/getinvolved/NetNeutralityAction.html
Vic Anvil	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:37:00 - [59] You guys have a misunderstanding of the Net Neutrality movement. The way it was going to work is ISPs limit the bandwidth of companies like CCP to their system. Then, if CCP wanted to have more bandwith access to that ISPs customers, they would have to pay the ISP. Basically, the ISP customers would not have to pay more for their access, but would ultimately have to pay CCP more to play the game as a result. By the way, the whole concept is dead. It died about a year ago here in the US.
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:40:00 - [60] Originally by: Vic Anvil You guys have a misunderstanding of the Net Neutrality movement. The way it was going to work is ISPs limit the bandwidth of companies like CCP to their system. Then, if CCP wanted to have more bandwith access to that ISPs customers, they would have to pay the ISP. Basically, the ISP customers would not have to pay more for their access, but would ultimately have to pay CCP more to play the game as a result. By the way, the whole concept is dead. It died about a year ago here in the US. As I said, about 7 months ago it was killed. But, they are still pushing for it... The Comcast/ATT/Verizon are still at it and the bill is being "reworked." With Dems in charge of the house and congress it will not happen any time soon, but I bet you my entire wallet, that this guys wont give up. Plus they have somehelp from that big house, you know, the one with snipers on the rooftops - because it would be a perfect form of censorship.

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