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Ripblade Falconpunch
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.08.11 04:38:05 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:Andrew Jester wrote:lol expecting chance ravinne to advocate for ANYTHING Yes yes, I come here for my health... and of course the scores of fawning fans (so many of them here in the wormhole subforum.
At least you know where you stand around here.
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Bleedingthrough
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Posted - 2015.08.11 05:34:25 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:It is worth re-mentioning that citadels are not the be-all, end-all structures so some of their shortcomings may have to be covered by other new structures.
All I want is a place to store ships that can not be trolled effortless and riskless. The process of capturing should provide potential content like something worth killing on grid. It would be fatal for w-space if a single (non-capital/marauder) ship could GÇ£RFGÇ¥ these new POSes.
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
1017
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Posted - 2015.08.11 05:47:44 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:As far as undock games go, this is something nobody wants and CCP is trying to address this to prevent BS especially in w-space. I can't say if it'll work out exactly but based on what I've seen I'm optimistic the solution is there. Keep in mind citadel docking gives you an outside view, that is just one component of preventing docking games. Manning guns from within the structure is another part. The invulnerability link is a third part. And there are additional ideas being thrown around beyond that. Wait a minute, sir. These ideas sound like something aimed at station camping, however, from my experience docking games by defender (by both parties for Empire) is what is seen as more problematic. For example, undocking en masse and then disengaging and docking back once aggro is taken while the rest are trying to burn at least a ship from another team. Rinse and repeat. This may be especially pronounced with player-owned structures since only once side can dock there.
While entosis means that attackers can go for the station directly, docking tactics will play a big role in those fights that don't involve a lot of people - which will happen quite a bit in low-class space.
Will this be addressed somehow, or is it considered workable?
Inb4 I'm just rambling...
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Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
435
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Posted - 2015.08.11 12:25:32 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:As far as undock games go, this is something nobody wants and CCP is trying to address this to prevent BS especially in w-space. I can't say if it'll work out exactly but based on what I've seen I'm optimistic the solution is there. Keep in mind citadel docking gives you an outside view, that is just one component of preventing docking games. Manning guns from within the structure is another part. The invulnerability link is a third part. And there are additional ideas being thrown around beyond that. Wait a minute, sir. These ideas sound like something aimed at station camping, however, from my experience docking games by defender (by both parties for Empire) is what is seen as more problematic. For example, undocking en masse and then disengaging and docking back individually once aggro is taken while the rest are trying to burn at least a ship from another team. Rinse and repeat. This may be especially pronounced with player-owned structures since only one side can dock there. While entosis means that attackers can go for the station directly, docking tactics will play a big role in those fights that don't involve a lot of people - which will happen quite a bit in low-class space. Will this be addressed somehow, or is it considered workable? Inb4 I'm just rambling...
There is a very healthy discussion about this right now and obviously I can't promise exactly what will be implemented but some of the ideas that I seen if they work out correctly will prevent a situation like we're talking about. Undocking should be a commitment.
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Andrew Jester
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
1320
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Posted - 2015.08.11 12:53:32 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:As far as undock games go, this is something nobody wants and CCP is trying to address this to prevent BS especially in w-space. I can't say if it'll work out exactly but based on what I've seen I'm optimistic the solution is there. Keep in mind citadel docking gives you an outside view, that is just one component of preventing docking games. Manning guns from within the structure is another part. The invulnerability link is a third part. And there are additional ideas being thrown around beyond that. Wait a minute, sir. These ideas sound like something aimed at station camping, however, from my experience docking games by defender (by both parties for Empire) is what is seen as more problematic. For example, undocking en masse and then disengaging and docking back individually once aggro is taken while the rest are trying to burn at least a ship from another team. Rinse and repeat. This may be especially pronounced with player-owned structures since only one side can dock there. While entosis means that attackers can go for the station directly, docking tactics will play a big role in those fights that don't involve a lot of people - which will happen quite a bit in low-class space. Will this be addressed somehow, or is it considered workable? Inb4 I'm just rambling...
if they act similar to how stations do with entosis now(which I assume they will because iirc they're meant to eventually replace stations as well as POses?) then not only will defenders be able to play station games, attackers will be able to too~ If it gets freeported after 1 cycle or something? then the attacker fleet can just dock up and wait. It'll be FUN.
Hopefully I'm wrong here tho
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
2657
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Posted - 2015.08.11 23:50:08 -
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Jester, the problem with setting for RUS Hour and hoping it bleeds into AUS TZ (best TZ!) is that if you succeed in AUS TZ then the timer resets to come out...in RUS Hour.
Whee?
This is why AUS TZ in nullsec is just bored idiots in Svipuls crashing gate or instawarping in prop mode. No timers exist in the AU TZ and if they have bled over from another TZ due to being incomplete, if you complete in AU it resets to whatever ungodly hour of the night you can't be arsed getting up to attack.
Fozziesov is Time Zone Cancer coming on the heels of Space AIDS. The next thing is going to be Citadel Ebola with hobbit can loots.
Chance Ravinne says he wants to see an end to a system that rewards evictors. This coming from someone whose organisation has never evicted anyone and couldn't light a fart in a curry eating contest using a blowtorch.
So, Chance, what do you see as a valid reason for evictions?
From my point of view valid reasons, in order of importance; 1. I identified them as one of your guys' alts (twice now we have evicted your idiots) 2. I wonder why there's 7 SMA's in this POS in a C1? 3. Their POS looks like it was set up by a blind octopus with Parkinsons 4. They keep avoiding fights and/or mouthing off in Local 5. I was moving holes and theirs looked good 6. The Krab People Nation needs more lebensraum in C5 magnetar space / Quaserknocks doesn't own this C6 yet 7. Because. 8. Just because.
Doctor Prince Field Marshall of Prolapse. Alliance and Grand Sasquatch of Bob
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Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
437
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Posted - 2015.08.12 02:31:10 -
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Trinkets friend wrote: So, Chance, what do you see as a valid reason for evictions?
From my point of view valid reasons, in order of importance; 1. I identified them as one of your guys' alts (twice now we have evicted your idiots) 2. I wonder why there's 7 SMA's in this POS in a C1? 3. Their POS looks like it was set up by a blind octopus with Parkinsons 4. They keep avoiding fights and/or mouthing off in Local 5. I was moving holes and theirs looked good 6. The Krab People Nation needs more lebensraum in C5 magnetar space / Quaserknocks doesn't own this C6 yet 7. Because. 8. Just because.
In order to not make it look too much like I am paying you to advertise my corporation,* I've only quoted the non-sponsored material. Let's try to at least pretend like we don't have a cross-channel campaign running! It's what I'd expect from a public relations professional.
Anyway, you don't need my validation or anyone else's validation to smash in someone's structure. The people who put it up are dumb? You don't like them? The POS had a stupid name? It's full of loot? You're bored and attacking plays into a ridiculous roleplay narrative you've constructed to justify your otherwise pointless actions? These are all valid reasons.
* Just to make sure, I make payments by a flat monthly rate. If you expect some kind of per-namedrop payment scheme I don't think I can make that happen, as the costs would quickly skyrocket if past posting history is any indication.
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Ripblade Falconpunch
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
351
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Posted - 2015.08.12 03:49:28 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:* Just to make sure, I make payments by a flat monthly rate. If you expect some kind of per-namedrop payment scheme I don't think I can make that happen, as the costs would quickly skyrocket if past posting history is any indication.
At least Trinket posts regularly, and is amusing. Despite your recent attempts at pretending to be active, it's way past that point by now. |
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
437
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Posted - 2015.08.12 04:11:09 -
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Ripblade Falconpunch wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:* Just to make sure, I make payments by a flat monthly rate. If you expect some kind of per-namedrop payment scheme I don't think I can make that happen, as the costs would quickly skyrocket if past posting history is any indication. At least Trinket posts regularly, and is amusing. Despite your recent attempts at pretending to be active, it's way past that point by now.
I'm not really sure what you're getting at. I also find Trinket highly amusing, which is why I engage with him. Plus it's great for SEO.
As for my pretendings, I've always been a believer that if pretending hard enough feels the same as actually doing something, there isn't an effective difference. So while I'm pretending to chat with CCP every day about the stuff I pretended to read here, on Reddit, on Twitter, and other places, I'll pretend to feel productive.
If however you'd prefer I pretended not to care what anyone in this subforum thought, well that would strike me as terribly mean -- all the other forums are so boring by comparison.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
2367
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Posted - 2015.08.12 14:12:24 -
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calaretu wrote:For the record automated defence does not equal automated guns. As the quote I cant be arsed to requote say they are looking at ways for the citadel to counter trollceptors without manned guns. Please show me any NPC's (Short of Drifters) that can't be Trollceptored into pointlessness. Heck, even drifters can probably be trollceptored. |
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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
2661
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Posted - 2015.08.13 00:03:31 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:Let's try to at least pretend like we don't have a cross-channel campaign running! It's what I'd expect from a public relations professional.
We are in competition? Since when? i don't remember being painfully terrible at this game and taking 30 minute videos of myself working up to gank a lone AFK Retriever. I don't remember being a self-promoting know-nothing noob who even the other CSM's disrespect and obviously can't stand the sight of. I don't remember being deprived of several chromosomes upon birth and seeing that as entitling me to attempt debating game balance with people who've been playing this game longer than you've been suffering through puberty.
I'm not in a popularity contest. I know I'm infamous. That's enough for me.
hell, they wouldn't let me run for CSM because I've pushed the limits of the game a bit much some times. Probably also they don't want anyone on the CSM who can use logic and facts, and hence we have you; the parasitic fool with the self-esteem measured in youtube hits.
Doctor Prince Field Marshall of Prolapse. Alliance and Grand Sasquatch of Bob
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Adriana Mal'Valeran
Zero Fun Allowed
8
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Posted - 2015.08.13 00:57:59 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:Let's try to at least pretend like we don't have a cross-channel campaign running! It's what I'd expect from a public relations professional. We are in competition? Since when? i don't remember being painfully terrible at this game and taking 30 minute videos of myself working up to gank a lone AFK Retriever. I don't remember being a self-promoting know-nothing noob who even the other CSM's disrespect and obviously can't stand the sight of. I don't remember being deprived of several chromosomes upon birth and seeing that as entitling me to attempt debating game balance with people who've been playing this game longer than you've been suffering through puberty. I'm not in a popularity contest. I know I'm infamous. That's enough for me. hell, they wouldn't let me run for CSM because I've pushed the limits of the game a bit much some times. Probably also they don't want anyone on the CSM who can use logic and facts, and hence we have you; the parasitic fool with the self-esteem measured in youtube hits.
Holy ****.... |
F3X5ON
Zero Fun Allowed
26
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Posted - 2015.08.13 01:00:25 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:Let's try to at least pretend like we don't have a cross-channel campaign running! It's what I'd expect from a public relations professional. We are in competition? Since when? i don't remember being painfully terrible at this game and taking 30 minute videos of myself working up to gank a lone AFK Retriever. I don't remember being a self-promoting know-nothing noob who even the other CSM's disrespect and obviously can't stand the sight of. I don't remember being deprived of several chromosomes upon birth and seeing that as entitling me to attempt debating game balance with people who've been playing this game longer than you've been suffering through puberty. I'm not in a popularity contest. I know I'm infamous. That's enough for me. hell, they wouldn't let me run for CSM because I've pushed the limits of the game a bit much some times. Probably also they don't want anyone on the CSM who can use logic and facts, and hence we have you; the parasitic fool with the self-esteem measured in youtube hits.
Quoted for the post of the month award. |
Andrew Jester
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
1328
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Posted - 2015.08.13 01:02:27 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:Let's try to at least pretend like we don't have a cross-channel campaign running! It's what I'd expect from a public relations professional. We are in competition? Since when? i don't remember being painfully terrible at this game and taking 30 minute videos of myself working up to gank a lone AFK Retriever. I don't remember being a self-promoting know-nothing noob who even the other CSM's disrespect and obviously can't stand the sight of. I don't remember being deprived of several chromosomes upon birth and seeing that as entitling me to attempt debating game balance with people who've been playing this game longer than you've been suffering through puberty. I'm not in a popularity contest. I know I'm infamous. That's enough for me. hell, they wouldn't let me run for CSM because I've pushed the limits of the game a bit much some times. Probably also they don't want anyone on the CSM who can use logic and facts, and hence we have you; the parasitic fool with the self-esteem measured in youtube hits.
ooh kill'em
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
451
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Posted - 2015.08.13 01:05:12 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:Let's try to at least pretend like we don't have a cross-channel campaign running! It's what I'd expect from a public relations professional. We are in competition? Since when? i don't remember being painfully terrible at this game and taking 30 minute videos of myself working up to gank a lone AFK Retriever. I don't remember being a self-promoting know-nothing noob who even the other CSM's disrespect and obviously can't stand the sight of. I don't remember being deprived of several chromosomes upon birth and seeing that as entitling me to attempt debating game balance with people who've been playing this game longer than you've been suffering through puberty. I'm not in a popularity contest. I know I'm infamous. That's enough for me. hell, they wouldn't let me run for CSM because I've pushed the limits of the game a bit much some times. Probably also they don't want anyone on the CSM who can use logic and facts, and hence we have you; the parasitic fool with the self-esteem measured in youtube hits.
FINISH HIM!
Best description of Eve Online and why the community is the way it is
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Tug Speedman
Big Beaver Corp
5
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Posted - 2015.08.13 01:35:56 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:Let's try to at least pretend like we don't have a cross-channel campaign running! It's what I'd expect from a public relations professional. We are in competition? Since when? i don't remember being painfully terrible at this game and taking 30 minute videos of myself working up to gank a lone AFK Retriever. I don't remember being a self-promoting know-nothing noob who even the other CSM's disrespect and obviously can't stand the sight of. I don't remember being deprived of several chromosomes upon birth and seeing that as entitling me to attempt debating game balance with people who've been playing this game longer than you've been suffering through puberty. I'm not in a popularity contest. I know I'm infamous. That's enough for me. hell, they wouldn't let me run for CSM because I've pushed the limits of the game a bit much some times. Probably also they don't want anyone on the CSM who can use logic and facts, and hence we have you; the parasitic fool with the self-esteem measured in youtube hits.
QFT Oh Serious Hot Burn.
I log on youtube for him one more hit to fell not so bad. Though, he still need burn center treatment. |
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
443
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Posted - 2015.08.13 01:37:01 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:Let's try to at least pretend like we don't have a cross-channel campaign running! It's what I'd expect from a public relations professional. We are in competition? Since when? i don't remember being painfully terrible at this game and taking 30 minute videos of myself working up to gank a lone AFK Retriever. I don't remember being a self-promoting know-nothing noob who even the other CSM's disrespect and obviously can't stand the sight of. I don't remember being deprived of several chromosomes upon birth and seeing that as entitling me to attempt debating game balance with people who've been playing this game longer than you've been suffering through puberty. I'm not in a popularity contest. I know I'm infamous. That's enough for me. hell, they wouldn't let me run for CSM because I've pushed the limits of the game a bit much some times. Probably also they don't want anyone on the CSM who can use logic and facts, and hence we have you; the parasitic fool with the self-esteem measured in youtube hits.
So I'm going to assume you didn't quite understand what I meant by "cross-channel campaign." That's okay, it happens to the best of us! Don't take my sometimes convoluted marketing jargon to mean we are in competition. I meant an advertising campaign, not a political one. You know what they say, there's no such thing as bad press.
Anyway, I still look back on your help and advice with my Proteus fit fondly, even if at some point thereafter you did not share my positive sentiment.
As for ego, I'd say YouTube hits are a pretty good measure of self esteem. But they are a far better measure of total interest in EVE and subscriptions sent to CCP. I can never feel bad knowing as much as people bicker and blast each other over the best way to get people to play EVE, I can make a meaningful contribution to the total population every day. As long as those video numbers are ticking up, EVE dies a little less slowly!
Anyway, I see that in this particular thread CSMs who are trying to engage are derided and name-called. I can't say it's the best long-term strategy for getting niche concerns brought to light... but perhaps I am simply too naive to see the long tail of it all.
And if you have any specific complaints from other CSMs about me, I would be keen to review them. You can't much improve if you can't get honest feedback from your peers.
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Neckbeard Nolyfe
Zero Fun Allowed
95
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Posted - 2015.08.13 01:42:46 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:
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~lvl 60 paladin~
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Neckbeard Nolyfe
Zero Fun Allowed
95
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Posted - 2015.08.13 01:44:54 -
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ohgodimhighwhatdididodoublepost
~lvl 60 paladin~
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Ripblade Falconpunch
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
358
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Posted - 2015.08.13 05:29:54 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote: Anyway, I see that in this particular thread CSMs who are trying to engage are derided and name-called. I can't say it's the best long-term strategy for getting niche concerns brought to light... but perhaps I am simply too naive to see the long tail of it all.
And if you have any specific complaints from other CSMs about me, I would be keen to review them. You can't much improve if you can't get honest feedback from your peers.
No, it's pretty much just you.
And you seem to be getting lots of honest feedback.... |
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unimatrix0030
Viperfleet Inc. Official Winners Of Takeshi's Castle
201
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Posted - 2015.08.13 05:48:59 -
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Shouldn't we get back on topic or something like that?
No local in null sec would fix everything!
Fleet warp proposal = the rubix cube is back into eve especialy the second part of the saying.
Wh players need to adapt, null sec players get the rules changed.
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Axloth Okiah
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
769
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Posted - 2015.08.13 06:59:36 -
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tbfh, i dont think we have so many awesome CSM representative that we should be dissing those who try to engage with us...
SSC Brokering Service
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ISD Buldath
ISD STAR
63
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Posted - 2015.08.13 08:10:13 -
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Quote: 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster.
I have removed some Offending Posts, In regards to Rule 27 above.
~ISD Buldath
Interstellar Services Department
Support, Training and Resources Division
Lt. Commander
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Winthorp
3617
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Posted - 2015.08.13 08:13:55 -
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ISD Buldath wrote: stuff.
Ohh hai there, i have not seen you around here before.
Are you a new ISD. I am glad Dorium has some new help around the office.
I am Winthorp, you might remember me from such films as "Winthorp is to blame for permanent signature ID's".
Please note i don't engage in any meaningful discussion with NPC alts, nut up or shut up...
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Andrew Jester
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
1328
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Posted - 2015.08.13 12:57:35 -
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complaining loud enough transcends language
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
57
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Posted - 2015.08.13 14:15:30 -
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Trinkets friend wrote: We are in competition? Since when? i don't remember being painfully terrible at this game and taking 30 minute videos of myself working up to gank a lone AFK Retriever. I don't remember being a self-promoting know-nothing noob who even the other CSM's disrespect and obviously can't stand the sight of. I don't remember being deprived of several chromosomes upon birth and seeing that as entitling me to attempt debating game balance with people who've been playing this game longer than you've been suffering through puberty.
I'm not in a popularity contest. I know I'm infamous. That's enough for me.
hell, they wouldn't let me run for CSM because I've pushed the limits of the game a bit much some times. Probably also they don't want anyone on the CSM who can use logic and facts, and hence we have you; the parasitic fool with the self-esteem measured in youtube hits.
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Intana Kreis
The Red Circle Inc. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
18
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Posted - 2015.08.13 17:50:16 -
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Axloth Okiah wrote:tbfh, i dont think we have so many awesome CSM representatives that we should be dissing those who try to engage with us...
TBH whether we believe we are represented or not, it makes sense to lobby people in a sensible manner, and it's always easier to lobby those who interact with us than those who don't. |
M1k3y Koontz
Respawn Disabled Initiative Mercenaries
774
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Posted - 2015.08.13 20:03:17 -
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Bleedingthrough wrote:Winthorp wrote:But the devil is in the detail. I got the feeling that they realy want to get this right. These new POSes are specifically designed to live in ... ergo: for us! Let's hope they don't listen too much to these null lobbyists and more to people that have a clue like corbex.
Why on earth would we want to screw up Citadels? They're replacing Outposts, you know!
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.
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Bleedingthrough
185
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Posted - 2015.08.14 02:58:04 -
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M1k3y Koontz wrote:Why on earth would we want to screw up Citadels? They're replacing Outposts, you know! You love EvE too and would not do it on purpose. It is just that you think of these structures as something completely different than most WH people do. You say they are replacing Outposts, I say they replace POSes.
Point is: These new structures need to and will work significantly different in w-space.
And we canGÇÖt have a half-assed compromise with the null guys on that matter. Because these null infidels just lack imagination how little details can impact our way of life. The recent changes to C5-null connection are a good example for this ignorance. WH people were not even consulted!
All I want is that CCP listens and acts accordingly. I am sick of bullshit like this:
CCP: Crushing WHs is too easy. Mass based spawn distance. WP people: Why? This will be meh. (<- the truth on over 9000 pages) CCP does it anyways. Null people: *cry* we canGÇÖt close WHs in our ratting systems and power projection and such. (wait a second WH people can do this with way less numbers) CCP: DonGÇÖt cry little babies, donGÇÖt cry. Corbexx: Sorry guys, I was not able to prevent this from happening, can you come up with an idea how to mitigate the damage?
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Justin Cody
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
305
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Posted - 2015.08.14 03:35:38 -
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Ripblade Falconpunch wrote:Bronya Boga wrote:XL will require sov What Bronya said. The last official word was that Large will be the biggest one you can build in a WH.
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