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Tiuwaz
Minmatar Omacron Militia
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:23:00 -
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trademarks and copyrights have gone so out of hand its not even funny anymore
Originally by: Gallente Information Ministry A Myrmidon pilot with 5 heavy drones is a bad pilot, someone who dies to him can only be worse.
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Lanfear's Bane
Shih Yang Tong Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:25:00 -
[32]
Stage Three: Profit.
Lanfear's Bane. _ _ _
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Black Torment
Caldari White Wolves Defence league The OSS
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
Since its the ship and not the character avatar doing it, it could be passed off as not being an emote. Swinging a sword isn't an emote. Launching a missile isn't an emote. Flying in a direction isn't, so why not barrel rolling?
Might have to give it some extra function to prove its not an emote, though I can't think of one off the top of my head.
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Amira Silvermist
Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:31:00 -
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Just call it /keg and do it the other way around :p
Amarr racial trait: Nerfbat damage resistance 0% |

Retromash
Minmatar Order of the Lamp
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:32:00 -
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It's not an emote. It's a tactical maneuver.
PMS - It's not just for THAT time of the month
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:35:00 -
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Barrel roll in a Typhoon? You'd never notice. What I can't imagine, though, is what happens to the massively large crew when it piroettes (spelling way off, spins along its Z axis, somewhat tilted) doing 3km/s while turning to keep an 18km orbit. I'm glad I run with a Janitor in my cargohold. ---------------------------- Buying Sabres. EVEmail or convo me in game! |

Kylania
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: kieron EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote
That sums up everything that is wrong with the world today.
You should never be allowed to do something like that. Perhaps I'll trademark the use triggering a virtual weapon via keyboard or HID controller device to cause numerical damage equivalents to a spaceship avatar in a MMOG. Than CCP will be forced to give me a plush fedo!  -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap | CCG Card Lookup |

Xen Gin
The Dragoons
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:52:00 -
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Awww come on. Even the Enterprise D in ST: Final Unity could do barrel rolls, corkscrew manouvers and such.
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Sader Rykane
Amarr Templar Securities and Holdings Lupus Caerulus
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:14:00 -
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The "Happy Birthday Song" was copyrighted by some woman.
You heard it, the song that people sings at birthdays is copyrighted. If the song is ever used in movies, radio, commercials, etc the woman has to be paid.
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Bastardo Pogiali
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:16:00 -
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a signed "gangsta rapper" (he actually has a record deal and branded clothing, lol) from another community i frequent recorded a song about barrel rolls, its hilarious but explicit so i will have to enjoy it for myself :D
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Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Uh, how do you trademark something like that? Do you mean a patent? And isn't CCP an Icelandic company, Iceland being a member of the EEA, which does not recognize software patents? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |

D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:18:00 -
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how the hell do ea get to trademark stuff they didnt even invent? they using the same corupt people as paris hilton? ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own. |

R0ze
Hounds of Basgerin
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Xorus I think you're probably referring to the sections of the video's with fighters in, that's part of the fighter animations and isn't something standard capsule fitted ships can do
Which is actually sad because all the Fighter animation is taken out (at least till it was today (when I get on)).. You can't look at them anymore :( Just a pesky croses in space.. So the trailer isnt actually in-game :(
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SpaceDrake Taleweaver
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Uh, how do you trademark something like that? Do you mean a patent? And isn't CCP an Icelandic company, Iceland being a member of the EEA, which does not recognize software patents?
The game is advertised in the US though and accepts US dollar transactions... tricky legal waters, and we all know how EA is with the lawyering. ificating. ish.
Basically it's more trouble than it's worth for CCP. --- What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward?...
Former player of Andre Ricard (sold). Currently plays a Sekrit CharacterÖ. |

Krav
Egad Inc. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin Awww come on. Even the Enterprise D in ST: Final Unity could do barrel rolls, corkscrew manouvers and such.
EGAD! Someone else besides me who played that game?!!?? HI! lol
It's too bad... Evil EA patenting barrel rolling? just wrong.
Krav =====
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D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:26:00 -
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btw ea also have the trademark/patent for the willis jeep 
quite recently there was an rts with the willis jeep instead of the proper markings which only ea are allowed to use they had EASUX in 1337 speak all over the jeep  ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own. |

T'Renn
Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:28:00 -
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this thread brings the lulz.
oh, and LB -- step 4 is profit.
The next time I browse the general discussion forum, I fully expect to see a thread entitled "So I herd some things."
For great justice.
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Gothikia
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Bazman I read the title and thought it was about something else :P
"Do a barrel roll!"
YTMND ftw 
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VCBee 211
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:00:00 -
[49]
Barrel Roll 101:
1. Launch Drone 2. Orbit Drone 3. Profit
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new civaluz
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Gothikia
Originally by: Bazman I read the title and thought it was about something else :P
"Do a barrel roll!"
YTMND ftw 
4chan not ytmnd.
ytmnd adds music to 4chan meme's
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CivaluZ
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:02:00 -
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^ :| my alt
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:03:00 -
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And then Dark Shikari posts every rubbish meme from the arse end of the internet (yup, still 4chan) here.
uh... Brutor stole my bike!
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |

Shayla Etherodyne
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: Shayla Etherodyne on 05/12/2006 18:10:23
Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
Sometime copyright laws seem done by someone totally mad, like Tolkien enterprises trademarking the name of the dwarves in The Hobbit, they where in norse mitology only from year 800 or so.
Airplane pilots pay a fee now to make a barrel roll? 
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Etti Caruse
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
I dunno...In EnB you could do a barrel roll while warping...
EA: 1 CCP: 100
i miss EnB :(
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DiuxDium
The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:25:00 -
[55]
In after epic get. I make sigs for free. Do eve-mail me if you're intested. |

Xen Gin
The Dragoons
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:26:00 -
[56]
I think he just said that as an excuse not to impliment. I havent seen any proof yet that EA trademarked/copywrited.
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Anatolius
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Etherodyne
Sometime copyright laws seem done by someone totally mad, like Tolkien enterprises trademarking the name of the dwarves in The Hobbit, they where in norse mitology only from year 800 or so.
The Tolkien estate does not hold a trademark on 'dwarf', 'dwarves', et cetera. The names of specific dwarves from the books, quite possibly, and rightly so.
They did, however, and possibly still do hold a trademark on 'hobbit'. This is why Dungeons and Dragons has elves, dwarves, and 'halflings' - they tried for hobbits, and got their arses handed to them by the Tolkien estate faster than one could say, "Arrgh, they're always after me lucky Silmarils!"
I have it on good authority that the estate also holds a trademark on heterosexual elves, and defends it to the point of not even letting Peter Jackson use them in his movies. 
EVE should trademark 'pew pew pew' and then sue games that use lasers. 
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Anatolius
EVE should trademark 'pew pew pew' and then sue games that use lasers. 
Lol, best quote of the thread  -----------------------------------------------
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Ashturi Nagano
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ashturi Nagano on 05/12/2006 19:05:16 If you think that patenting the barrell roll as an emote is silly, I met the guy that trademarked the phrase "Freedom of Speech." Oddly enough, that's allowed, too.
btw, the words "dwarves", "dwarvish" were trademarked. The "proper" words are "dwarfs", dwarfish, etc. Until Tolkien, neither the word "elven" (was "elfin") nor "dwarves" was ever used. So, it's not the people it's the form of the word that's trademarked.
Now, the word "elven" IS a german word (I believe. Deutsch speakers help me out), but we're speaking in English (mostly), in which "elven" did not exist before Tolkien.
Granted...that doesn't make it any less ridiculous. ----- Kyoturi clan priorities: Customer > Kyoturi > Everyone else "Still Xenophobes after 26 centuries" |

Krulla
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Krulla on 05/12/2006 19:03:40
Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
How the **** can you trademark something like that? 
I'm trademarking the use of Guns in video games! Muhahah! Or better yet, weapons! Every game, ever, except the sims must now pay me royalities! >_>
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