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Dagrin RDM
Caldari
The Knights of the New Republic
Forces of Freedom
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Posted - 2006.12.06 07:29:00 -
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Everbody do the.....
\beerkeg spin
Like a barrel roll, but with beer, so the Devs like it!
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Silvatico
Far Ranger
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Posted - 2006.12.06 23:47:00 -
[92]
 Originally by: Sader Rykane
The "Happy Birthday Song" was copyrighted by some woman.
You heard it, the song that people sings at birthdays is copyrighted. If the song is ever used in movies, radio, commercials, etc the woman has to be paid.
To be fair, the woman did have some claim as sister (and copyright administrator) of (arguably) the writer of the song.
In my mind, it is reasonable that the song was covered by copyright... the problem today is that the song is still covered by copyright more than 70 years after publication and perhaps a century after it was written and publicly performed. Upon publication, the publisher expected under the laws of that time that the copyright would last 28 years, until 1963.
See Snopes for more information.
It is bizarre (and, I submit, bad) that in a world that supposedly gets faster and faster all the time, copyright terms are tending to get longer and longer.
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DefJam101
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.06 23:49:00 -
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DO A BARREL ROLL!
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Silvatico
Far Ranger
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Posted - 2006.12.06 23:57:00 -
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Getting myself back on topic, [Sounding innocent:] perhaps the solution is to 'simply' allow direct control of our ship's flight in real time?
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Enotz
Terminus Est Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.12.07 00:04:00 -
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I was reading a reader's digest while bored on thanksgiving...apperently some companies own patents to peices of DNA now ^^
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Grandeur
Gallente
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2006.12.07 00:15:00 -
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This thread is great.
Peppy had it right.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
Cheers Restaurant and Bar
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2006.12.07 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option.
That is so easy to workaround. CCP just needs to trademark the emote "barrel roll with colored smoke trails" and they're in the clear.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
The Keep
THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.12.07 02:35:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Aphotic Raven
Originally by: Audri Fisher
On older infrared guided missles it was simply put yourself between the sun and the missle, then cut engine to idle and dump flares while you manuver away. This is an example of beating the guidance system.
You're a genius, finally a reason for CCP to make a missle nerfer... we've got tracking disruptors to screw everyone else.. but missles always hit... always and always... unless you can outrun a missle, you're gonna get hurt.
Chaff... Flares... Point defence lasers.... lets go CCP. Nerf missles like everyone else gets nerfed.
ECMs dead... sensor damps your only chance now...
It would have to be a tad more sophisticated than that, flares don't work against modern missles, everybody still uses them though because the USSR and modern russia doesn't detroy there old outdated weapons, they dump them on the market. 
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Deikan Frost
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.07 02:41:00 -
[99]
Originally by: kieron
Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
ROFL! The BASTARDS! I knew EA was behind this... DAMN YOU EA! But hey, why don't you just trademark a "spin" instead? It's not a Barrel roll, it's a SPIN! If only some ships could do it it'd be amazing! (i.e. Frigates and other fast and small ships)
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eveplayer11
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Posted - 2006.12.07 03:19:00 -
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eh... you can trademark emotes in a game?  omg will there be anything left in the future? someone trademarks /me and no more /me emotes   trademark /you right now CCP or else its gone in the future... lol
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Ansuru Starlancer
The Phoenix Rising
Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.07 10:28:00 -
[101]
Originally by: kieron
Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
That's ridiculous. Trademark a barrel roll? Just because it's in an MMOG rather than a flight sim?
I, and the professors at my U, have said for ages that copyright/etc laws are outdated and need severe changes, but that is beyond all common sense. EA needs to die. Go out of business and die!
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Filthy Sneak
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Posted - 2006.12.08 22:26:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Kwint Sommer
Originally by: Christina Vallentine
How is it possible to trademark or patton something thats a common term and been used by planes for years... (real planes)
I'd fight that one. Thats like putting a trademark on the word "Air" and if anyone else uses the word they can be sued.
The use of roll as an emote is patented not the actual action which is why fighters can do it. Roll can still be used just not as a player directed command which while stupid isn't as stupid as you make it out to be.
Probably the worst abuse at the moment is the patenting of hybridized DNA, not simply the method but rather the actual DNA which is itself simply new combinations of existing sequences. In my opinion being able to combine two common strands of DNA and patent it is analogous to combining two colors of paint and patenting the resulting color. You can claim to have invented the process but the actual freaking color?
....you can patent colors, UPS Brown, Target Red, Tiffany's Sicklyness, IBM Blue... all patented. oh and that whole patent the smiley face that walmart tried to do...ha! also the whole patenting the word elf and orc when the lotr movies came out..flipping ludacris.
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Evelyn Lavi
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Posted - 2006.12.08 22:52:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Evelyn Lavi on 08/12/2006 22:52:02
Ahh, good ol' Peppy.
More Peppy-ness also applies to EVE:
USE THE BOOST!
"USE (smart) BOMBS WISELY!"
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Worms Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:13:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Aphotic Raven
Originally by: Audri Fisher
On older infrared guided missles it was simply put yourself between the sun and the missle, then cut engine to idle and dump flares while you manuver away. This is an example of beating the guidance system.
You're a genius, finally a reason for CCP to make a missle nerfer... we've got tracking disruptors to screw everyone else.. but missles always hit... always and always... unless you can outrun a missle, you're gonna get hurt.
Chaff... Flares... Point defence lasers.... lets go CCP. Nerf missles like everyone else gets nerfed.
ECMs dead... sensor damps your only chance now...
It would have to be a tad more sophisticated than that, flares don't work against modern missles, everybody still uses them though because the USSR and modern russia doesn't detroy there old outdated weapons, they dump them on the market.
well even the US has several heatseekers, the Sidewinder and Stinger come to mind. both have great success rates for kills too. sadly EVE combat even frigates will never be as cool as true jet fighter or WW2 prop fighter combat. id so fly a condor or inty if i could hook up my USB joystick, switch to guns punch the Afterburner into a hard inverted loop, drop in behind the enemy and go hot with cannons.
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Zomiaen
Gallente
Ore Mongers
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:27:00 -
[105]
When do we get the /pizza command?
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Morhon
Amarr
Aegis Starship Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:29:00 -
[106]
actually the devs have some /<do somthing> commands.... the roll you saw though is indeed a fighter acting normal.
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Zeonos
Amarr
venus divine brotherhood
Dark Forces Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:34:00 -
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/spin :) and the ship spins. :)
damn.. think im gonna start saving up to trademark the /dance emote :D... for every time it used i want 1$... :) Bye wow and gw.. :D
Donations should be sent too.
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Ma Raia'l
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:46:00 -
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I think there needs to be a clearing up of definitions. A Barrel roll is defined as:
barrel roll
n : a roll in which the plane follows a spiral course
What you could do in Earth & Beyond is called an Aileron Roll, which is defined as:
aileron roll
ûnoun Aeronautics.
a roll consisting of one or more rotations, usually controlled by the use of ailerons.
If trademark is worded in such a way that the act of the ship doing a so-called "barrel roll", that is a non-corkscrew like roll, is trademarked, we will still be able to do a REAL barrel roll. However due to the confusion, the trademark may be worded in such a way that it is the act of an real barrel roll that is trademarked, we will still be able to do an aileron roll, and few people would know the difference.
For clarity, please refer to the below link.
The difference between an aileron roll and a barrel roll
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ELECTR0FREAK
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:48:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Zomiaen
When do we get the /pizza command?
I know, I'm so tired of actually having to pick up the phone and dial.
Speaking of which, I think the pizza is here right now! Dinner time!
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.09 00:00:00 -
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Even if the trademark claim is true (which I doubt), it wouldn't hold water because you must continually reinforce your TM claims when referencing trademarked names.
If the emote was /barrelrollÖ they may have has a case, otherwise, no.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Frug
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.09 00:06:00 -
[111]
Boycott EA games.
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