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Anatolius
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ashturi Nagano Edited by: Ashturi Nagano on 05/12/2006 19:05:16 If you think that patenting the barrell roll as an emote is silly, I met the guy that trademarked the phrase "Freedom of Speech." Oddly enough, that's allowed, too.
btw, the words "dwarves", "dwarvish" were trademarked. The "proper" words are "dwarfs", dwarfish, etc. Until Tolkien, neither the word "elven" (was "elfin") nor "dwarves" was ever used. So, it's not the people it's the form of the word that's trademarked.
Now, the word "elven" IS a german word (I believe. Deutsch speakers help me out), but we're speaking in English (mostly), in which "elven" did not exist before Tolkien.
Granted...that doesn't make it any less ridiculous.
Interesting. Probably my confusion then; one would figure that if the words were really trademarked, lawsuits would abound. Well, I for one thank the Tolkien estate. Dwarven and elven looks more aesthetically pleasing than dwarfish and elfin
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Tzarkan Tzeench
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: Anatolius
EVE should trademark 'pew pew pew' and then sue games that use lasers.
Lol, best quote of the thread
quoting an epic quote (possible doublepost, grr forums)
/b/rothers
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JoCool
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ashturi Nagano Edited by: Ashturi Nagano on 05/12/2006 19:05:16 If you think that patenting the barrell roll as an emote is silly, I met the guy that trademarked the phrase "Freedom of Speech." Oddly enough, that's allowed, too.
btw, the words "dwarves", "dwarvish" were trademarked. The "proper" words are "dwarfs", dwarfish, etc. Until Tolkien, neither the word "elven" (was "elfin") nor "dwarves" was ever used. So, it's not the people it's the form of the word that's trademarked.
Now, the word "elven" IS a german word (I believe. Deutsch speakers help me out), but we're speaking in English (mostly), in which "elven" did not exist before Tolkien.
Granted...that doesn't make it any less ridiculous.
Yes Elv/Elf, Elven/Elfen refers to Elb/Elben which was a medieval term used for the tall blonde pale germans living in the forests north of the Elbe near modern Hamburg. I'm a rl Elve myself . In some older german history textes you will find the word Nordelben (Northelves) which is the persona for Nordelbien which is the old term the church still uses for this region today! _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool |
JoCool
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:31:00 -
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Oh, patenting barrel roll as an emote sucks hard. We should have some radical eve fanataniacs setting EA up ze bomb.
Aren't they just some silly frog eaters anyway? _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool |
Ubel Feuer
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:41:00 -
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I was wondering how long it would take for 4chan to come up in this thread... perhaps some fresh prince lyrics now?
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Epoh
Kudzu Collective Pride - Honor - Duty
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Epoh on 05/12/2006 19:47:26
Originally by: JoCool I'm a rl Elve myself
There should really be an 'emo' emote on these boards for exactly this quote.
Edit: thanks for the new sig. _______________________________________________________________________
Originally by: JoCool I'm a rl Elve myself
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2006.12.05 20:47:00 -
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Wait.. so EA trade marked Barrel Roll as an EMOTE.. correct?
You should be able to put it in Eve-online. Ships do not do Emotes. Nor is a Barrel roll a "Emote".
Here is how you get "barrel roll" into eve online.
New Training Skill. Roll Maneuvers. Increase Avoidance of Missles. On Small Maneuverable ships, ship will Roll to Avoid missles.
Small Maneuverable ships can now Roll to avoid missles (this is a uncontrollable action, but a nice touch to see happen). No longer a emote, its not a Barrel Roll, its a Roll Maneuver.
Fixed with only 5 minutes thought.
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Rico Naginata
Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Rico Naginata on 05/12/2006 21:56:28
Originally by: Ubel Feuer I was wondering how long it would take for 4chan to come up in this thread... perhaps some fresh prince lyrics now?
Lol, that reminds me of a time when i was in my trusty moa ratting in lowsec... i killed a shadow serp spawn, moved in to collect the loot, see local jump...seconds later a bunch of gankbears warp in and i got in 1 little fight and my mom got scared, said youre moving with your auntie and uncle in bel-air
as it happens "bel-air" is from &TOTSE. :P
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2006.12.05 22:09:00 -
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I am calling BS. I cannot beleive you can patent a barrel rol in a mmorpg.
If it was possible by now someone would have patent on walking animation in a mmo .....
To the OP and specifically to EVE team, I think you guys should work on some new flight animations even if it is randomly peforming certain flight tricks kinda like random attack animiations in the tradiction sword and magic RPG. Make them ship specifical maybe like 1-2 each so you don;t get titans doing barrel rolls :P
also as a side note would be nice if eve didnt play so horizontal for a space roleplaying game I would expect sometiems I would orbit in all directions not just horizontal plane...
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.12.05 22:12:00 -
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I think they should work on the lag, the bugs, the graphics update and the sounds update.
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TheDevilsJury
principle of motion R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.05 22:47:00 -
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I too am calling BS on the trademarking. I think he's just kidding us...
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Anthal Some guy in game named "Peppy" told me to use 'Z' or 'R' twice.
He also said something about using "the boost to get you through."
I don't trust him, he had rabbit ears.
Greatest thing i have read all day.. thank you sir... thank you so very much!
ok ok that was harsh, i dont hate mods.. as an apology the mod who shows the most wuv gets a free mercedes...
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GrumpyCat
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:54:00 -
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I wish EA trademarked "jump queues".
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2
...If it was possible by now someone would have patent on walking animation in a mmo ...
Someone did, everyone run to get around.
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WarGod
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.12.06 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Anthal Some guy in game named "Peppy" told me to use 'Z' or 'R' twice.
He also said something about using "the boost to get you through."
I don't trust him, he had rabbit ears.
lol that game was c00l back in the day *snip*
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Holy Priest
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Posted - 2006.12.06 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ubel Feuer I was wondering how long it would take for 4chan to come up in this thread... perhaps some fresh prince lyrics now?
I dont think you fully understand dow extreamly superior /b/ is. Its the future of humanity, sensless life flowing in posts. it shows the true face of the human race.
Anonymous does not forgive, Anonymous does not forget, we are Anonymous, we are Legion. All hail Forced Anon our /b/rothers in arms also m00t.
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HankMurphy
Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror
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Posted - 2006.12.06 00:28:00 -
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sounds pretty fishy to me.
and if it was true, they would have a hell of a time w/ a law suit
especially if you just named the ship manuveur something else!
you cant patent/cpywrite/whatever the actual movement anymore than you can patent flying forwards or walking around. you can have legal write to the code you wrote to do it, but thats neither here nor there
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2006.12.06 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
What a ridiculous state of affairs and/or excuse if it really is true ..
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Stitcher
Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.06 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Milena Rage how do I shot web? D:
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.12.06 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Black Torment If our ships have crews (hotly debated as of old) Its a sure fire way to get them all throwing up, if their heads don't explode.
[hijack] There's no debate, any ship larger than a frigate has a crew, people who 'debate' crews haven't likely read the PF or seen the old blueprint drawings from a long time ago (I only recently saw them myself).
In the Wetgrave, the jove tell the Caldari how the pod works, and mention that ships such as frigates, can operate with only a pod. Hands of a Killer clearly shows that battleships carry several thousand crew members as well. [/hijack]
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Horatio Nately
Caldari 808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.06 02:15:00 -
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I can just see a BS in eve doing a barrel roll. As graceful as a 747 would do one... --------------------------------------- Operations Officer, 808 Enterprises Yes Eight Oh Eight, Not Bee Oh Bee |
Frug
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.06 04:25:00 -
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Another reason to hate EA games. And incidentally to love CCP because I doubt you guys would do something lame like trademark a barrel roll emote.
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Altrex Stoppel
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.06 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
So could CCP actually be sued for doing a barrel roll?!?! LMAO **** that then well have /tailspin! We need a flight emote cmon now
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.12.06 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Nately I can just see a BS in eve doing a barrel roll. As graceful as a 747 would do one...
They can't. well, not without doing serious structural damage. I would have to ask my dad, but I don't think that any modern commercial airliners can fly inverted without doing nasty things to the wings, like snap them off.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.12.06 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix Jones Wait.. so EA trade marked Barrel Roll as an EMOTE.. correct?
You should be able to put it in Eve-online. Ships do not do Emotes. Nor is a Barrel roll a "Emote".
Here is how you get "barrel roll" into eve online.
New Training Skill. Roll Maneuvers. Increase Avoidance of Missles. On Small Maneuverable ships, ship will Roll to Avoid missles.
Small Maneuverable ships can now Roll to avoid missles (this is a uncontrollable action, but a nice touch to see happen). No longer a emote, its not a Barrel Roll, its a Roll Maneuver.
Fixed with only 5 minutes thought.
A barrel roll would do jack to the guidance system of a missle because it does not complicate the intercept solution in any way. Your vector is still the same, and your airpseed doesn't decrease appreciably. Best way to defeat a missle is to put it on your Z axis and pull hard into it when the missle gets to withen a range determined by it's speed and your turning radious. This causes the missle to snap in two from to many G forces, hopefully..... On older infrared guided missles it was simply put yourself between the sun and the missle, then cut engine to idle and dump flares while you manuver away. This is an example of beating the guidance system.
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The Armin
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.06 06:43:00 -
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Lyticus made his Thorax do a barrel roll in his Pirates Life movie, I WANT MY GEDDON TO DO THE SAME DAMMIT !
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Aphotic Raven
Gallente Spectral Armada Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.06 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Nately I can just see a BS in eve doing a barrel roll. As graceful as a 747 would do one...
Dominix already does when it feels like it... its like a morbidly obese bovine ballerina
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Aphotic Raven
Gallente Spectral Armada Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.06 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Audri Fisher On older infrared guided missles it was simply put yourself between the sun and the missle, then cut engine to idle and dump flares while you manuver away. This is an example of beating the guidance system.
You're a genius, finally a reason for CCP to make a missle nerfer... we've got tracking disruptors to screw everyone else.. but missles always hit... always and always... unless you can outrun a missle, you're gonna get hurt.
Chaff... Flares... Point defence lasers.... lets go CCP. Nerf missles like everyone else gets nerfed.
ECMs dead... sensor damps your only chance now...
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Anndy
Caldari Praetorian Black Guard Serenus Letum
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Posted - 2006.12.06 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
how in the hell is it possible to trademark something like that? leave it to EA to try and hog everything they put into a game lol
eve doesnt really need something like that tho, sure emotes would be kinda fun at first but would eventually become something no 1 cares about Please resize your signature to the limits specified in the forum rules, thanks. -wystler ([email protected])
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Juwi Kotch
Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.12.06 07:20:00 -
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A trademark is a name for something, nothing more. So when you are talking about cereals, you cannot use the name Kellog's for it, unless you own it.
So EA has trademarked the emote "barrel role". With that, they have only reserved the right to use this special wording for this special emote. It does not mean that others are not allowed to do a barrel role in their games, just like no other people are forbidden to produce cornflakes. You just cannot use the name.
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