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Phoenix Jones	Posted - 2006.12.05 15:37:00 - [1] Via both the revelations trailer Linkage and the No other destiny trailer Linkage Dev's. Since you constantly state that these video's are made with in-game footage, I would like to know the in-game method of doing a barrel roll. ---------------The Low Sec Issue------------- Gatecamps that kill all who pass with no remorse and in many cases, no possible way of retaliation, is not PVP.

Xorus Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.12.05 15:39:00 - [2] I think you're probably referring to the sections of the video's with fighters in, that's part of the fighter animations and isn't something standard capsule fitted ships can do ---

Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2006.12.05 15:40:00 - [3] Easy thats a fighter, fighters do fancy barrel rolls not player ships. unless you count that glitch that sometimes makes my BS spin like a top when warping.
Bazman Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.05 15:41:00 - [4] I read the title and thought it was about something else :P "Do a barrel roll!" ----- OMG READ TUXFORD!!!1
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.05 15:42:00 - [5] 1. Find a barrel .... ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Anthal Order's Chaos	Posted - 2006.12.05 15:42:00 - [6] Some guy in game named "Peppy" told me to use 'Z' or 'R' twice. He also said something about using "the boost to get you through." I don't trust him, he had rabbit ears.
Great Artista Veto.	Posted - 2006.12.05 15:42:00 - [7] Edited by: Great Artista on 05/12/2006 15:44:15 Press Z or R twice. The Guide ___________________________________ And I make lots of money, I make more money than you I drive around in my limo, that's what I was born to do And I might like you better if we ****** together.
Lord WarATron Amarr Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 15:45:00 - [8] Actually - It is possible to do a barrel roll in a interceptor..... Simple orbit - Activate MWD. Deactivate MWD, and watch as for some stupid reason, your ship stops, does a barrel roll, and changes direction --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2006.12.05 15:46:00 - [9] fighters roll. we dont. again fighters roll. we dont.
Black Torment Caldari White Wolves Defence league The OSS	Posted - 2006.12.05 15:50:00 - [10] Originally by: Xorus I think you're probably referring to the sections of the video's with fighters in, that's part of the fighter animations and isn't something standard capsule fitted ships can do I love it when that happens. The concept of entering warp in reverse or indeed turning in warp is hilarious :D If our ships have crews (hotly debated as of old) Its a sure fire way to get them all throwing up, if their heads don't explode.


kieron	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:00:00 - [11] Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online

Cloudis	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:01:00 - [12] if you really wanna know, fly minmatar ships
Milena Rage The Aftermath	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:01:00 - [13] how do I shot web? D:
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:03:00 - [14] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. I'd try it Hell bring in the loop the loop to, it would be like trying to bat with a mothership if you did it in the middle of an attacking fleet
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:05:00 - [15] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. WTF, you can do that? That's so utterly lame, how about CCP trademark 'undocking' and shut every other spacegame off permanently. Trademark 'targetlock', 'scanner' & 'warp' too to be the complete EAss Nebula Rasa Holdings
Taedrin Gallente Mercatoris Technologies	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:05:00 - [16] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. GAH! And I thought IBM was the only Evil Empire that abused patents like that...
thesulei Syndicate Technologies	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:06:00 - [17] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. WTF?? You're not kidding about this right? Patents/trademarks are so effed up...
Christina Vallentine Caldari Tau Ceti Global Production	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:08:00 - [18] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. How is it possible to trademark or patton something thats a common term and been used by planes for years... (real planes) I'd fight that one. Thats like putting a trademark on the word "Air" and if anyone else uses the word they can be sued.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:09:00 - [19] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. LOL, you've gotta be joking........... I swear that would sooooooo not stand up in court. -----------------------------------------------
Jason Marshall Infinite Innovations Astral Wolves	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:09:00 - [20] Edited by: Jason Marshall on 05/12/2006 16:10:20 Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. I propose a keg or stupor roll for ccp... Tacky lens flares in sigs 4tw!

Taedrin Gallente Mercatoris Technologies	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:09:00 - [21] Originally by: Danton Marcellus WTF, you can do that? That's so utterly lame, how about CCP trademark 'undocking' and shut every other spacegame off permanently. Trademark 'targetlock', 'scanner' & 'warp' too to be the complete EAss Unfortunately, this is all too common in software development. There are several companies out there who make profit by patenting various functionality in software. For example, according to rumor, IBM patented the ability to push TAB in a spreadsheet program (like Excell) to advanced the cursor to the next cell. So if you wish to allow the user to push TAB to advanced to the next cell, you must pay IBM an outrageous royalty, such as %10 of your revenue. Or if you are a competitor, IBM could halt development of your program all together. Now, I don't know if this is international, or just the US, but it still sucks.
codepic Mithril Inc	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:10:00 - [22] Launch one light drone Select the launched drone in space Click 'Approach' in the selected item overview Even a battleship starts doing most amazing things Never tried with a dread =) Free Eve Wallpaper \| Corporate Bookmarks
Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:10:00 - [23] Originally by: Christina Vallentine Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. How is it possible to trademark or patton something thats a common term and been used by planes for years... (real planes) I'd fight that one. Thats like putting a trademark on the word "Air" and if anyone else uses the word they can be sued. I worked for EA they suck, and they have done worse.
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:13:00 - [24] Originally by: Bazman I read the title and thought it was about something else :P "Do a barrel roll!" You're not alone Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Zeonos Amarr venus divine brotherhood Dark Forces Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:13:00 - [25] ofc it should have limits. so only frig sizes ships would be able to do it. :) but damn it would look cool in vidios. :) maybe add deferend color of smoke :) so we can make some shows.. :D My sig got Nerfed by - Hutch
DefJam101 Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:13:00 - [26] I'm waiting for a "Barrel Roll active on SiSi!" thread like what happened with WTZ ***
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:14:00 - [27] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. Awesome (Am I the only one getting the joke?)
Kwint Sommer	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:22:00 - [28] Originally by: Christina Vallentine How is it possible to trademark or patton something thats a common term and been used by planes for years... (real planes) I'd fight that one. Thats like putting a trademark on the word "Air" and if anyone else uses the word they can be sued. The use of roll as an emote is patented not the actual action which is why fighters can do it. Roll can still be used just not as a player directed command which while stupid isn't as stupid as you make it out to be. Probably the worst abuse at the moment is the patenting of hybridized DNA, not simply the method but rather the actual DNA which is itself simply new combinations of existing sequences. In my opinion being able to combine two common strands of DNA and patent it is analogous to combining two colors of paint and patenting the resulting color. You can claim to have invented the process but the actual freaking color?
Tommy TenKreds Animal Mercantile Executive	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:22:00 - [29] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. So if it wasn't as an emote but as part of a "special moves" feature set, with key combos for additional moves by ship class? That would rock btw! Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Is there anything other than ISK you might be interested in?
Iteken Hotori Minmatar GTE Corp	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:22:00 - [30] Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 05/12/2006 16:22:11 Not quite dude, but we appear to be in a minority..... Warning: May contain flaming, trolling, swearing, typos, crimes against grammar, obscure reference to old films, in jokes, rambling, ranting and references to EvE.

Tiuwaz Minmatar Omacron Militia	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:23:00 - [31] trademarks and copyrights have gone so out of hand its not even funny anymore Originally by: Gallente Information Ministry A Myrmidon pilot with 5 heavy drones is a bad pilot, someone who dies to him can only be worse.
Lanfear's Bane Shih Yang Tong Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:25:00 - [32] Stage Three: Profit. Lanfear's Bane. _ _ _
Black Torment Caldari White Wolves Defence league The OSS	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:30:00 - [33] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. Since its the ship and not the character avatar doing it, it could be passed off as not being an emote. Swinging a sword isn't an emote. Launching a missile isn't an emote. Flying in a direction isn't, so why not barrel rolling? Might have to give it some extra function to prove its not an emote, though I can't think of one off the top of my head.
Amira Silvermist Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:31:00 - [34] Just call it /keg and do it the other way around :p Amarr racial trait: Nerfbat damage resistance 0%
Retromash Minmatar Order of the Lamp	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:32:00 - [35] It's not an emote. It's a tactical maneuver. PMS - It's not just for THAT time of the month What's On Your Plate?
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:35:00 - [36] Barrel roll in a Typhoon? You'd never notice. What I can't imagine, though, is what happens to the massively large crew when it piroettes (spelling way off, spins along its Z axis, somewhat tilted) doing 3km/s while turning to keep an 18km orbit. I'm glad I run with a Janitor in my cargohold. ---------------------------- Buying Sabres. EVEmail or convo me in game!
Kylania Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:36:00 - [37] Originally by: kieron EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote That sums up everything that is wrong with the world today. You should never be allowed to do something like that. Perhaps I'll trademark the use triggering a virtual weapon via keyboard or HID controller device to cause numerical damage equivalents to a spaceship avatar in a MMOG. Than CCP will be forced to give me a plush fedo! -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap \| CCG Card Lookup
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:52:00 - [38] Awww come on. Even the Enterprise D in ST: Final Unity could do barrel rolls, corkscrew manouvers and such.
Sader Rykane Amarr Templar Securities and Holdings Lupus Caerulus	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:14:00 - [39] The "Happy Birthday Song" was copyrighted by some woman. You heard it, the song that people sings at birthdays is copyrighted. If the song is ever used in movies, radio, commercials, etc the woman has to be paid.
Bastardo Pogiali	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:16:00 - [40] a signed "gangsta rapper" (he actually has a record deal and branded clothing, lol) from another community i frequent recorded a song about barrel rolls, its hilarious but explicit so i will have to enjoy it for myself :D

Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:18:00 - [41] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Uh, how do you trademark something like that? Do you mean a patent? And isn't CCP an Icelandic company, Iceland being a member of the EEA, which does not recognize software patents? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:18:00 - [42] how the hell do ea get to trademark stuff they didnt even invent? they using the same corupt people as paris hilton? ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own.
R0ze Hounds of Basgerin	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:19:00 - [43] Originally by: Xorus I think you're probably referring to the sections of the video's with fighters in, that's part of the fighter animations and isn't something standard capsule fitted ships can do Which is actually sad because all the Fighter animation is taken out (at least till it was today (when I get on)).. You can't look at them anymore :( Just a pesky croses in space.. So the trailer isnt actually in-game :(
SpaceDrake Taleweaver	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:20:00 - [44] Originally by: Hllaxiu Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Uh, how do you trademark something like that? Do you mean a patent? And isn't CCP an Icelandic company, Iceland being a member of the EEA, which does not recognize software patents? The game is advertised in the US though and accepts US dollar transactions... tricky legal waters, and we all know how EA is with the lawyering. ificating. ish. Basically it's more trouble than it's worth for CCP. --- What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward?... Former player of Andre Ricard (sold). Currently plays a Sekrit CharacterÖ.
Krav Egad Inc. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:22:00 - [45] Originally by: Xen Gin Awww come on. Even the Enterprise D in ST: Final Unity could do barrel rolls, corkscrew manouvers and such. EGAD! Someone else besides me who played that game?!!?? HI! lol It's too bad... Evil EA patenting barrel rolling? just wrong. Krav =====
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:26:00 - [46] btw ea also have the trademark/patent for the willis jeep quite recently there was an rts with the willis jeep instead of the proper markings which only ea are allowed to use they had EASUX in 1337 speak all over the jeep ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own.
T'Renn Vale Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:28:00 - [47] this thread brings the lulz. oh, and LB -- step 4 is profit. The next time I browse the general discussion forum, I fully expect to see a thread entitled "So I herd some things." For great justice.
Gothikia Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:44:00 - [48] Originally by: Bazman I read the title and thought it was about something else :P "Do a barrel roll!" YTMND ftw ---
VCBee 211	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:00:00 - [49] Barrel Roll 101: 1. Launch Drone 2. Orbit Drone 3. Profit
new civaluz	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:02:00 - [50] Originally by: Gothikia Originally by: Bazman I read the title and thought it was about something else :P "Do a barrel roll!" YTMND ftw 4chan not ytmnd. ytmnd adds music to 4chan meme's

CivaluZ Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:02:00 - [51] ^ :\| my alt
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:03:00 - [52] And then Dark Shikari posts every rubbish meme from the arse end of the internet (yup, still 4chan) here. uh... Brutor stole my bike! Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Shayla Etherodyne	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:07:00 - [53] Edited by: Shayla Etherodyne on 05/12/2006 18:10:23 Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. Sometime copyright laws seem done by someone totally mad, like Tolkien enterprises trademarking the name of the dwarves in The Hobbit, they where in norse mitology only from year 800 or so. Airplane pilots pay a fee now to make a barrel roll?
Etti Caruse Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:21:00 - [54] Originally by: kieron Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. I dunno...In EnB you could do a barrel roll while warping... EA: 1 CCP: 100 i miss EnB :(
DiuxDium The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:25:00 - [55] In after epic get. I make sigs for free. Do eve-mail me if you're intested.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:26:00 - [56] I think he just said that as an excuse not to impliment. I havent seen any proof yet that EA trademarked/copywrited.
Anatolius Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:48:00 - [57] Originally by: Shayla Etherodyne Sometime copyright laws seem done by someone totally mad, like Tolkien enterprises trademarking the name of the dwarves in The Hobbit, they where in norse mitology only from year 800 or so. The Tolkien estate does not hold a trademark on 'dwarf', 'dwarves', et cetera. The names of specific dwarves from the books, quite possibly, and rightly so. They did, however, and possibly still do hold a trademark on 'hobbit'. This is why Dungeons and Dragons has elves, dwarves, and 'halflings' - they tried for hobbits, and got their arses handed to them by the Tolkien estate faster than one could say, "Arrgh, they're always after me lucky Silmarils!" I have it on good authority that the estate also holds a trademark on heterosexual elves, and defends it to the point of not even letting Peter Jackson use them in his movies. EVE should trademark 'pew pew pew' and then sue games that use lasers. "If God be for us, whom can be against us?"
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:51:00 - [58] Originally by: Anatolius EVE should trademark 'pew pew pew' and then sue games that use lasers. Lol, best quote of the thread -----------------------------------------------
Ashturi Nagano Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:56:00 - [59] Edited by: Ashturi Nagano on 05/12/2006 19:05:16 If you think that patenting the barrell roll as an emote is silly, I met the guy that trademarked the phrase "Freedom of Speech." Oddly enough, that's allowed, too. btw, the words "dwarves", "dwarvish" were trademarked. The "proper" words are "dwarfs", dwarfish, etc. Until Tolkien, neither the word "elven" (was "elfin") nor "dwarves" was ever used. So, it's not the people it's the form of the word that's trademarked. Now, the word "elven" IS a german word (I believe. Deutsch speakers help me out), but we're speaking in English (mostly), in which "elven" did not exist before Tolkien. Granted...that doesn't make it any less ridiculous. ----- Kyoturi clan priorities: Customer > Kyoturi > Everyone else "Still Xenophobes after 26 centuries"
Krulla Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:03:00 - [60] Edited by: Krulla on 05/12/2006 19:03:40 Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. How the **** can you trademark something like that? I'm trademarking the use of Guns in video games! Muhahah! Or better yet, weapons! Every game, ever, except the sims must now pay me royalities! >_>

Anatolius Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:09:00 - [61] Originally by: Ashturi Nagano Edited by: Ashturi Nagano on 05/12/2006 19:05:16 If you think that patenting the barrell roll as an emote is silly, I met the guy that trademarked the phrase "Freedom of Speech." Oddly enough, that's allowed, too. btw, the words "dwarves", "dwarvish" were trademarked. The "proper" words are "dwarfs", dwarfish, etc. Until Tolkien, neither the word "elven" (was "elfin") nor "dwarves" was ever used. So, it's not the people it's the form of the word that's trademarked. Now, the word "elven" IS a german word (I believe. Deutsch speakers help me out), but we're speaking in English (mostly), in which "elven" did not exist before Tolkien. Granted...that doesn't make it any less ridiculous. Interesting. Probably my confusion then; one would figure that if the words were really trademarked, lawsuits would abound. Well, I for one thank the Tolkien estate. Dwarven and elven looks more aesthetically pleasing than dwarfish and elfin "If God be for us, whom can be against us?"
Tzarkan Tzeench	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:21:00 - [62] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Anatolius EVE should trademark 'pew pew pew' and then sue games that use lasers. Lol, best quote of the thread quoting an epic quote (possible doublepost, grr forums) /b/rothers
JoCool Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:27:00 - [63] Originally by: Ashturi Nagano Edited by: Ashturi Nagano on 05/12/2006 19:05:16 If you think that patenting the barrell roll as an emote is silly, I met the guy that trademarked the phrase "Freedom of Speech." Oddly enough, that's allowed, too. btw, the words "dwarves", "dwarvish" were trademarked. The "proper" words are "dwarfs", dwarfish, etc. Until Tolkien, neither the word "elven" (was "elfin") nor "dwarves" was ever used. So, it's not the people it's the form of the word that's trademarked. Now, the word "elven" IS a german word (I believe. Deutsch speakers help me out), but we're speaking in English (mostly), in which "elven" did not exist before Tolkien. Granted...that doesn't make it any less ridiculous. Yes Elv/Elf, Elven/Elfen refers to Elb/Elben which was a medieval term used for the tall blonde pale germans living in the forests north of the Elbe near modern Hamburg. I'm a rl Elve myself . In some older german history textes you will find the word Nordelben (Northelves) which is the persona for Nordelbien which is the old term the church still uses for this region today! _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool
JoCool Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:31:00 - [64] Oh, patenting barrel roll as an emote sucks hard. We should have some radical eve fanataniacs setting EA up ze bomb. Aren't they just some silly frog eaters anyway? _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool
Ubel Feuer	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:41:00 - [65] I was wondering how long it would take for 4chan to come up in this thread... perhaps some fresh prince lyrics now?
Epoh Kudzu Collective Pride - Honor - Duty	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:45:00 - [66] Edited by: Epoh on 05/12/2006 19:47:26 Originally by: JoCool I'm a rl Elve myself There should really be an 'emo' emote on these boards for exactly this quote. Edit: thanks for the new sig. _______________________________________________________________________ Originally by: JoCool I'm a rl Elve myself
Phoenix Jones	Posted - 2006.12.05 20:47:00 - [67] Wait.. so EA trade marked Barrel Roll as an EMOTE.. correct? You should be able to put it in Eve-online. Ships do not do Emotes. Nor is a Barrel roll a "Emote". Here is how you get "barrel roll" into eve online. New Training Skill. Roll Maneuvers. Increase Avoidance of Missles. On Small Maneuverable ships, ship will Roll to Avoid missles. Small Maneuverable ships can now Roll to avoid missles (this is a uncontrollable action, but a nice touch to see happen). No longer a emote, its not a Barrel Roll, its a Roll Maneuver. Fixed with only 5 minutes thought. ---------------The Low Sec Issue------------- Gatecamps that kill all who pass with no remorse and in many cases, no possible way of retaliation, is not PVP.
Rico Naginata Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 21:55:00 - [68] Edited by: Rico Naginata on 05/12/2006 21:56:28 Originally by: Ubel Feuer I was wondering how long it would take for 4chan to come up in this thread... perhaps some fresh prince lyrics now? Lol, that reminds me of a time when i was in my trusty moa ratting in lowsec... i killed a shadow serp spawn, moved in to collect the loot, see local jump...seconds later a bunch of gankbears warp in and i got in 1 little fight and my mom got scared, said youre moving with your auntie and uncle in bel-air as it happens "bel-air" is from &TOTSE. :P Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes LOL UR PINK NOW
Nanobotter Mk2	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:09:00 - [69] I am calling BS. I cannot beleive you can patent a barrel rol in a mmorpg. If it was possible by now someone would have patent on walking animation in a mmo ..... To the OP and specifically to EVE team, I think you guys should work on some new flight animations even if it is randomly peforming certain flight tricks kinda like random attack animiations in the tradiction sword and magic RPG. Make them ship specifical maybe like 1-2 each so you don;t get titans doing barrel rolls :P also as a side note would be nice if eve didnt play so horizontal for a space roleplaying game I would expect sometiems I would orbit in all directions not just horizontal plane...
Fuujin Hadean Drive Yards	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:12:00 - [70] I think they should work on the lag, the bugs, the graphics update and the sounds update. Hadean Drive Yards Tier 2 BC Pricing

TheDevilsJury principle of motion R i s e	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:47:00 - [71] I too am calling BS on the trademarking. I think he's just kidding us... ^^^^ You can hide, but you can't run. ^^^^
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Momentum.	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:08:00 - [72] Originally by: Anthal Some guy in game named "Peppy" told me to use 'Z' or 'R' twice. He also said something about using "the boost to get you through." I don't trust him, he had rabbit ears. Greatest thing i have read all day.. thank you sir... thank you so very much! ok ok that was harsh, i dont hate mods.. as an apology the mod who shows the most wuv gets a free mercedes...
GrumpyCat	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:54:00 - [73] I wish EA trademarked "jump queues".
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:59:00 - [74] Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 ...If it was possible by now someone would have patent on walking animation in a mmo ... Someone did, everyone run to get around. Nebula Rasa Holdings
WarGod D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.12.06 00:14:00 - [75] Originally by: Anthal Some guy in game named "Peppy" told me to use 'Z' or 'R' twice. He also said something about using "the boost to get you through." I don't trust him, he had rabbit ears. lol that game was c00l back in the day snip Re-Directs to private killboards is not permitted on Gal-Net - Petwraith
Holy Priest	Posted - 2006.12.06 00:17:00 - [76] Originally by: Ubel Feuer I was wondering how long it would take for 4chan to come up in this thread... perhaps some fresh prince lyrics now? I dont think you fully understand dow extreamly superior /b/ is. Its the future of humanity, sensless life flowing in posts. it shows the true face of the human race. Anonymous does not forgive, Anonymous does not forget, we are Anonymous, we are Legion. All hail Forced Anon our /b/rothers in arms also m00t.
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror	Posted - 2006.12.06 00:28:00 - [77] sounds pretty fishy to me. and if it was true, they would have a hell of a time w/ a law suit especially if you just named the ship manuveur something else! you cant patent/cpywrite/whatever the actual movement anymore than you can patent flying forwards or walking around. you can have legal write to the code you wrote to do it, but thats neither here nor there
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2006.12.06 01:06:00 - [78] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. What a ridiculous state of affairs and/or excuse if it really is true .. MOOCIFER Emerald/Alpha Oldtimer & Warwick Castle Gamekeeper
Stitcher Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.06 01:18:00 - [79] Originally by: Milena Rage how do I shot web? D: http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/electronicwarfare/stasiswebifiers/527.asp ____________________________________________________________ MAY CONTAIN NUTS.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.06 01:23:00 - [80] Originally by: Black Torment If our ships have crews (hotly debated as of old) Its a sure fire way to get them all throwing up, if their heads don't explode. [hijack] There's no debate, any ship larger than a frigate has a crew, people who 'debate' crews haven't likely read the PF or seen the old blueprint drawings from a long time ago (I only recently saw them myself). In the Wetgrave, the jove tell the Caldari how the pod works, and mention that ships such as frigates, can operate with only a pod. Hands of a Killer clearly shows that battleships carry several thousand crew members as well. [/hijack] Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.

Horatio Nately Caldari 808 Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.06 02:15:00 - [81] I can just see a BS in eve doing a barrel roll. As graceful as a 747 would do one... --------------------------------------- Operations Officer, 808 Enterprises Yes Eight Oh Eight, Not Bee Oh Bee
Frug Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.06 04:25:00 - [82] Another reason to hate EA games. And incidentally to love CCP because I doubt you guys would do something lame like trademark a barrel roll emote. - - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - or automatic signatures - - - - - - - -
Altrex Stoppel Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.12.06 05:31:00 - [83] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. So could CCP actually be sued for doing a barrel roll?!?! LMAO **** that then well have /tailspin! We need a flight emote cmon now Omg, Dark Shikari got pregnant with the forums!
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.12.06 06:30:00 - [84] Originally by: Horatio Nately I can just see a BS in eve doing a barrel roll. As graceful as a 747 would do one... They can't. well, not without doing serious structural damage. I would have to ask my dad, but I don't think that any modern commercial airliners can fly inverted without doing nasty things to the wings, like snap them off.
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.12.06 06:39:00 - [85] Originally by: Phoenix Jones Wait.. so EA trade marked Barrel Roll as an EMOTE.. correct? You should be able to put it in Eve-online. Ships do not do Emotes. Nor is a Barrel roll a "Emote". Here is how you get "barrel roll" into eve online. New Training Skill. Roll Maneuvers. Increase Avoidance of Missles. On Small Maneuverable ships, ship will Roll to Avoid missles. Small Maneuverable ships can now Roll to avoid missles (this is a uncontrollable action, but a nice touch to see happen). No longer a emote, its not a Barrel Roll, its a Roll Maneuver. Fixed with only 5 minutes thought. A barrel roll would do jack to the guidance system of a missle because it does not complicate the intercept solution in any way. Your vector is still the same, and your airpseed doesn't decrease appreciably. Best way to defeat a missle is to put it on your Z axis and pull hard into it when the missle gets to withen a range determined by it's speed and your turning radious. This causes the missle to snap in two from to many G forces, hopefully..... On older infrared guided missles it was simply put yourself between the sun and the missle, then cut engine to idle and dump flares while you manuver away. This is an example of beating the guidance system.
The Armin Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.06 06:43:00 - [86] Lyticus made his Thorax do a barrel roll in his Pirates Life movie, I WANT MY GEDDON TO DO THE SAME DAMMIT !
Aphotic Raven Gallente Spectral Armada Eternal Empire	Posted - 2006.12.06 06:58:00 - [87] Originally by: Horatio Nately I can just see a BS in eve doing a barrel roll. As graceful as a 747 would do one... Dominix already does when it feels like it... its like a morbidly obese bovine ballerina Quote: Melicien Tetro: I tried to fight a shark with a pistol underwater once, and I'll be **ed if he didn't laugh at me and eat me. Sharks need a ***** nerf. True story
Aphotic Raven Gallente Spectral Armada Eternal Empire	Posted - 2006.12.06 07:02:00 - [88] Originally by: Audri Fisher On older infrared guided missles it was simply put yourself between the sun and the missle, then cut engine to idle and dump flares while you manuver away. This is an example of beating the guidance system. You're a genius, finally a reason for CCP to make a missle nerfer... we've got tracking disruptors to screw everyone else.. but missles always hit... always and always... unless you can outrun a missle, you're gonna get hurt. Chaff... Flares... Point defence lasers.... lets go CCP. Nerf missles like everyone else gets nerfed. ECMs dead... sensor damps your only chance now... Quote: Melicien Tetro: I tried to fight a shark with a pistol underwater once, and I'll be **ed if he didn't laugh at me and eat me. Sharks need a ***** nerf. True story
Anndy Caldari Praetorian Black Guard Serenus Letum	Posted - 2006.12.06 07:11:00 - [89] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. how in the hell is it possible to trademark something like that? leave it to EA to try and hog everything they put into a game lol eve doesnt really need something like that tho, sure emotes would be kinda fun at first but would eventually become something no 1 cares about Please resize your signature to the limits specified in the forum rules, thanks. -wystler ([email protected]) awww my sig was
Juwi Kotch Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2006.12.06 07:20:00 - [90] A trademark is a name for something, nothing more. So when you are talking about cereals, you cannot use the name Kellog's for it, unless you own it. So EA has trademarked the emote "barrel role". With that, they have only reserved the right to use this special wording for this special emote. It does not mean that others are not allowed to do a barrel role in their games, just like no other people are forbidden to produce cornflakes. You just cannot use the name. Juwi Kotch

Dagrin RDM Caldari The Knights of the New Republic Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.12.06 07:29:00 - [91] Everbody do the..... \beerkeg spin Like a barrel roll, but with beer, so the Devs like it!
Silvatico Far Ranger	Posted - 2006.12.06 23:47:00 - [92] Originally by: Sader Rykane The "Happy Birthday Song" was copyrighted by some woman. You heard it, the song that people sings at birthdays is copyrighted. If the song is ever used in movies, radio, commercials, etc the woman has to be paid. To be fair, the woman did have some claim as sister (and copyright administrator) of (arguably) the writer of the song. In my mind, it is reasonable that the song was covered by copyright... the problem today is that the song is still covered by copyright more than 70 years after publication and perhaps a century after it was written and publicly performed. Upon publication, the publisher expected under the laws of that time that the copyright would last 28 years, until 1963. See Snopes for more information. It is bizarre (and, I submit, bad) that in a world that supposedly gets faster and faster all the time, copyright terms are tending to get longer and longer.
DefJam101 Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.06 23:49:00 - [93] DO A BARREL ROLL! ***
Silvatico Far Ranger	Posted - 2006.12.06 23:57:00 - [94] Getting myself back on topic, [Sounding innocent:] perhaps the solution is to 'simply' allow direct control of our ship's flight in real time?
Enotz Terminus Est Incorporated	Posted - 2006.12.07 00:04:00 - [95] I was reading a reader's digest while bored on thanksgiving...apperently some companies own patents to peices of DNA now ^^
Grandeur Gallente STK Scientific	Posted - 2006.12.07 00:15:00 - [96] This thread is great. Peppy had it right.
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2006.12.07 00:20:00 - [97] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. That is so easy to workaround. CCP just needs to trademark the emote "barrel roll with colored smoke trails" and they're in the clear. -- Guile can always trump hardware --
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.12.07 02:35:00 - [98] Originally by: Aphotic Raven Originally by: Audri Fisher On older infrared guided missles it was simply put yourself between the sun and the missle, then cut engine to idle and dump flares while you manuver away. This is an example of beating the guidance system. You're a genius, finally a reason for CCP to make a missle nerfer... we've got tracking disruptors to screw everyone else.. but missles always hit... always and always... unless you can outrun a missle, you're gonna get hurt. Chaff... Flares... Point defence lasers.... lets go CCP. Nerf missles like everyone else gets nerfed. ECMs dead... sensor damps your only chance now... It would have to be a tad more sophisticated than that, flares don't work against modern missles, everybody still uses them though because the USSR and modern russia doesn't detroy there old outdated weapons, they dump them on the market.
Deikan Frost Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.07 02:41:00 - [99] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. ROFL! The BASTARDS! I knew EA was behind this... DAMN YOU EA! But hey, why don't you just trademark a "spin" instead? It's not a Barrel roll, it's a SPIN! If only some ships could do it it'd be amazing! (i.e. Frigates and other fast and small ships) Sig Size: 374x115 pixels - 136Kb
eveplayer11	Posted - 2006.12.07 03:19:00 - [100] eh... you can trademark emotes in a game? omg will there be anything left in the future? someone trademarks /me and no more /me emotes trademark /you right now CCP or else its gone in the future... lol

Ansuru Starlancer The Phoenix Rising Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.07 10:28:00 - [101] Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled. Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure. That's ridiculous. Trademark a barrel roll? Just because it's in an MMOG rather than a flight sim? I, and the professors at my U, have said for ages that copyright/etc laws are outdated and need severe changes, but that is beyond all common sense. EA needs to die. Go out of business and die!
Filthy Sneak	Posted - 2006.12.08 22:26:00 - [102] Originally by: Kwint Sommer Originally by: Christina Vallentine How is it possible to trademark or patton something thats a common term and been used by planes for years... (real planes) I'd fight that one. Thats like putting a trademark on the word "Air" and if anyone else uses the word they can be sued. The use of roll as an emote is patented not the actual action which is why fighters can do it. Roll can still be used just not as a player directed command which while stupid isn't as stupid as you make it out to be. Probably the worst abuse at the moment is the patenting of hybridized DNA, not simply the method but rather the actual DNA which is itself simply new combinations of existing sequences. In my opinion being able to combine two common strands of DNA and patent it is analogous to combining two colors of paint and patenting the resulting color. You can claim to have invented the process but the actual freaking color? ....you can patent colors, UPS Brown, Target Red, Tiffany's Sicklyness, IBM Blue... all patented. oh and that whole patent the smiley face that walmart tried to do...ha! also the whole patenting the word elf and orc when the lotr movies came out..flipping ludacris.
Evelyn Lavi	Posted - 2006.12.08 22:52:00 - [103] Edited by: Evelyn Lavi on 08/12/2006 22:52:02 Ahh, good ol' Peppy. More Peppy-ness also applies to EVE: USE THE BOOST! "USE (smart) BOMBS WISELY!"
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2006.12.08 23:13:00 - [104] Originally by: Audri Fisher Originally by: Aphotic Raven Originally by: Audri Fisher On older infrared guided missles it was simply put yourself between the sun and the missle, then cut engine to idle and dump flares while you manuver away. This is an example of beating the guidance system. You're a genius, finally a reason for CCP to make a missle nerfer... we've got tracking disruptors to screw everyone else.. but missles always hit... always and always... unless you can outrun a missle, you're gonna get hurt. Chaff... Flares... Point defence lasers.... lets go CCP. Nerf missles like everyone else gets nerfed. ECMs dead... sensor damps your only chance now... It would have to be a tad more sophisticated than that, flares don't work against modern missles, everybody still uses them though because the USSR and modern russia doesn't detroy there old outdated weapons, they dump them on the market. well even the US has several heatseekers, the Sidewinder and Stinger come to mind. both have great success rates for kills too. sadly EVE combat even frigates will never be as cool as true jet fighter or WW2 prop fighter combat. id so fly a condor or inty if i could hook up my USB joystick, switch to guns punch the Afterburner into a hard inverted loop, drop in behind the enemy and go hot with cannons.
Zomiaen Gallente Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.08 23:27:00 - [105] When do we get the /pizza command? _________________________ pirates wear pink! - eris was herrrrrrre
Morhon Amarr Aegis Starship Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.08 23:29:00 - [106] actually the devs have some /<do somthing> commands.... the roll you saw though is indeed a fighter acting normal. Does my bum look big in this cape?
Zeonos Amarr venus divine brotherhood Dark Forces Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.08 23:34:00 - [107] /spin :) and the ship spins. :) damn.. think im gonna start saving up to trademark the /dance emote :D... for every time it used i want 1$... :) Bye wow and gw.. :D Donations should be sent too. xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx xxx My sig got Nerfed by - Hutch
Ma Raia'l Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2006.12.08 23:46:00 - [108] I think there needs to be a clearing up of definitions. A Barrel roll is defined as: barrel roll n : a roll in which the plane follows a spiral course What you could do in Earth & Beyond is called an Aileron Roll, which is defined as: aileron roll ûnoun Aeronautics. a roll consisting of one or more rotations, usually controlled by the use of ailerons. If trademark is worded in such a way that the act of the ship doing a so-called "barrel roll", that is a non-corkscrew like roll, is trademarked, we will still be able to do a REAL barrel roll. However due to the confusion, the trademark may be worded in such a way that it is the act of an real barrel roll that is trademarked, we will still be able to do an aileron roll, and few people would know the difference. For clarity, please refer to the below link. The difference between an aileron roll and a barrel roll
ELECTR0FREAK Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.12.08 23:48:00 - [109] Originally by: Zomiaen When do we get the /pizza command? I know, I'm so tired of actually having to pick up the phone and dial. Speaking of which, I think the pizza is here right now! Dinner time! Discoverer of the Missile Damage Formula
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.09 00:00:00 - [110] Even if the trademark claim is true (which I doubt), it wouldn't hold water because you must continually reinforce your TM claims when referencing trademarked names. If the emote was /barrelrollÖ they may have has a case, otherwise, no. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur

Frug Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.09 00:06:00 - [111] Boycott EA games. - - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - or automatic signatures - - - - - - - -


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