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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:37:00 -
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Via both the revelations trailer Linkage
and the No other destiny trailer Linkage
Dev's. Since you constantly state that these video's are made with in-game footage, I would like to know the in-game method of doing a barrel roll.
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Xorus
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:39:00 -
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I think you're probably referring to the sections of the video's with fighters in, that's part of the fighter animations and isn't something standard capsule fitted ships can do ---
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Kassidus
Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:40:00 -
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Easy thats a fighter, fighters do fancy barrel rolls not player ships. unless you count that glitch that sometimes makes my BS spin like a top when warping.
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Bazman
Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:41:00 -
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I read the title and thought it was about something else :P
"Do a barrel roll!" -----
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:42:00 -
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1. Find a barrel .... ----------
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Anthal
Order's Chaos
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:42:00 -
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Some guy in game named "Peppy" told me to use 'Z' or 'R' twice.
He also said something about using "the boost to get you through."
I don't trust him, he had rabbit ears.
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Great Artista
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Great Artista on 05/12/2006 15:44:15 Press Z or R twice. The Guide
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:45:00 -
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Actually - It is possible to do a barrel roll in a interceptor.....
Simple orbit - Activate MWD. Deactivate MWD, and watch as for some stupid reason, your ship stops, does a barrel roll, and changes direction --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |

Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:46:00 -
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fighters roll. we dont.
again
fighters roll. we dont.
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Black Torment
Caldari White Wolves Defence league The OSS
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Xorus I think you're probably referring to the sections of the video's with fighters in, that's part of the fighter animations and isn't something standard capsule fitted ships can do
I love it when that happens. The concept of entering warp in reverse or indeed turning in warp is hilarious :D
If our ships have crews (hotly debated as of old) Its a sure fire way to get them all throwing up, if their heads don't explode.
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kieron

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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:00:00 -
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Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
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Cloudis
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:01:00 -
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if you really wanna know, fly minmatar ships
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Milena Rage
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:01:00 -
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how do I shot web? D:
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Rawthorm
Gallente The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
I'd try it Hell bring in the loop the loop to, it would be like trying to bat with a mothership if you did it in the middle of an attacking fleet 
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
WTF, you can do that? That's so utterly lame, how about CCP trademark 'undocking' and shut every other spacegame off permanently. Trademark 'targetlock', 'scanner' & 'warp' too to be the complete EAss
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Taedrin
Gallente Mercatoris Technologies
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
GAH! And I thought IBM was the only Evil Empire that abused patents like that...
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thesulei
Syndicate Technologies
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
WTF?? You're not kidding about this right? Patents/trademarks are so effed up...
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Christina Vallentine
Caldari Tau Ceti Global Production
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
How is it possible to trademark or patton something thats a common term and been used by planes for years... (real planes)
I'd fight that one. Thats like putting a trademark on the word "Air" and if anyone else uses the word they can be sued.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
LOL, you've gotta be joking...........
I swear that would sooooooo not stand up in court. -----------------------------------------------
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Jason Marshall
Infinite Innovations Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: Jason Marshall on 05/12/2006 16:10:20
Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
I propose a keg or stupor roll for ccp...
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Taedrin
Gallente Mercatoris Technologies
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
WTF, you can do that? That's so utterly lame, how about CCP trademark 'undocking' and shut every other spacegame off permanently. Trademark 'targetlock', 'scanner' & 'warp' too to be the complete EAss
Unfortunately, this is all too common in software development. There are several companies out there who make profit by patenting various functionality in software. For example, according to rumor, IBM patented the ability to push TAB in a spreadsheet program (like Excell) to advanced the cursor to the next cell. So if you wish to allow the user to push TAB to advanced to the next cell, you must pay IBM an outrageous royalty, such as %10 of your revenue. Or if you are a competitor, IBM could halt development of your program all together.
Now, I don't know if this is international, or just the US, but it still sucks.
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codepic
Mithril Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:10:00 -
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- Launch one light drone
- Select the launched drone in space
- Click 'Approach' in the selected item overview
- Even a battleship starts doing most amazing things
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Kassidus
Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Christina Vallentine
Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
How is it possible to trademark or patton something thats a common term and been used by planes for years... (real planes)
I'd fight that one. Thats like putting a trademark on the word "Air" and if anyone else uses the word they can be sued.
I worked for EA they suck, and they have done worse.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Bazman I read the title and thought it was about something else :P
"Do a barrel roll!"
You're not alone 
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |

Zeonos
Amarr venus divine brotherhood Dark Forces Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:13:00 -
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ofc it should have limits. so only frig sizes ships would be able to do it. :) but damn it would look cool in vidios. :) maybe add deferend color of smoke :) so we can make some shows.. :D
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DefJam101
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:13:00 -
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I'm waiting for a "Barrel Roll active on SiSi!" thread like what happened with WTZ  ***
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
Awesome 
(Am I the only one getting the joke?)
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Kwint Sommer
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Christina Vallentine
How is it possible to trademark or patton something thats a common term and been used by planes for years... (real planes)
I'd fight that one. Thats like putting a trademark on the word "Air" and if anyone else uses the word they can be sued.
The use of roll as an emote is patented not the actual action which is why fighters can do it. Roll can still be used just not as a player directed command which while stupid isn't as stupid as you make it out to be.
Probably the worst abuse at the moment is the patenting of hybridized DNA, not simply the method but rather the actual DNA which is itself simply new combinations of existing sequences. In my opinion being able to combine two common strands of DNA and patent it is analogous to combining two colors of paint and patenting the resulting color. You can claim to have invented the process but the actual freaking color?
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
So if it wasn't as an emote but as part of a "special moves" feature set, with key combos for additional moves by ship class?
That would rock btw! 
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Is there anything other than ISK you might be interested in?
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Iteken Hotori
Minmatar GTE Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:22:00 -
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Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 05/12/2006 16:22:11 Not quite dude, but we appear to be in a minority.....
Warning: May contain flaming, trolling, swearing, typos, crimes against grammar, obscure reference to old films, in jokes, rambling, ranting and references to EvE. |
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar Omacron Militia
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:23:00 -
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trademarks and copyrights have gone so out of hand its not even funny anymore
Originally by: Gallente Information Ministry A Myrmidon pilot with 5 heavy drones is a bad pilot, someone who dies to him can only be worse.
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Lanfear's Bane
Shih Yang Tong Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:25:00 -
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Stage Three: Profit.
Lanfear's Bane. _ _ _
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Black Torment
Caldari White Wolves Defence league The OSS
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
Since its the ship and not the character avatar doing it, it could be passed off as not being an emote. Swinging a sword isn't an emote. Launching a missile isn't an emote. Flying in a direction isn't, so why not barrel rolling?
Might have to give it some extra function to prove its not an emote, though I can't think of one off the top of my head.
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Amira Silvermist
Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:31:00 -
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Just call it /keg and do it the other way around :p
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Retromash
Minmatar Order of the Lamp
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:32:00 -
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It's not an emote. It's a tactical maneuver.
PMS - It's not just for THAT time of the month
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:35:00 -
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Barrel roll in a Typhoon? You'd never notice. What I can't imagine, though, is what happens to the massively large crew when it piroettes (spelling way off, spins along its Z axis, somewhat tilted) doing 3km/s while turning to keep an 18km orbit. I'm glad I run with a Janitor in my cargohold. ---------------------------- Buying Sabres. EVEmail or convo me in game! |

Kylania
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: kieron EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote
That sums up everything that is wrong with the world today.
You should never be allowed to do something like that. Perhaps I'll trademark the use triggering a virtual weapon via keyboard or HID controller device to cause numerical damage equivalents to a spaceship avatar in a MMOG. Than CCP will be forced to give me a plush fedo!  -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap | CCG Card Lookup |

Xen Gin
The Dragoons
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:52:00 -
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Awww come on. Even the Enterprise D in ST: Final Unity could do barrel rolls, corkscrew manouvers and such.
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Sader Rykane
Amarr Templar Securities and Holdings Lupus Caerulus
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:14:00 -
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The "Happy Birthday Song" was copyrighted by some woman.
You heard it, the song that people sings at birthdays is copyrighted. If the song is ever used in movies, radio, commercials, etc the woman has to be paid.
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Bastardo Pogiali
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:16:00 -
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a signed "gangsta rapper" (he actually has a record deal and branded clothing, lol) from another community i frequent recorded a song about barrel rolls, its hilarious but explicit so i will have to enjoy it for myself :D
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Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Uh, how do you trademark something like that? Do you mean a patent? And isn't CCP an Icelandic company, Iceland being a member of the EEA, which does not recognize software patents? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |

D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:18:00 -
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how the hell do ea get to trademark stuff they didnt even invent? they using the same corupt people as paris hilton? ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own. |

R0ze
Hounds of Basgerin
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Xorus I think you're probably referring to the sections of the video's with fighters in, that's part of the fighter animations and isn't something standard capsule fitted ships can do
Which is actually sad because all the Fighter animation is taken out (at least till it was today (when I get on)).. You can't look at them anymore :( Just a pesky croses in space.. So the trailer isnt actually in-game :(
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SpaceDrake Taleweaver
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Uh, how do you trademark something like that? Do you mean a patent? And isn't CCP an Icelandic company, Iceland being a member of the EEA, which does not recognize software patents?
The game is advertised in the US though and accepts US dollar transactions... tricky legal waters, and we all know how EA is with the lawyering. ificating. ish.
Basically it's more trouble than it's worth for CCP. --- What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward?...
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Krav
Egad Inc. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin Awww come on. Even the Enterprise D in ST: Final Unity could do barrel rolls, corkscrew manouvers and such.
EGAD! Someone else besides me who played that game?!!?? HI! lol
It's too bad... Evil EA patenting barrel rolling? just wrong.
Krav =====
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D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:26:00 -
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btw ea also have the trademark/patent for the willis jeep 
quite recently there was an rts with the willis jeep instead of the proper markings which only ea are allowed to use they had EASUX in 1337 speak all over the jeep  ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own. |

T'Renn
Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:28:00 -
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this thread brings the lulz.
oh, and LB -- step 4 is profit.
The next time I browse the general discussion forum, I fully expect to see a thread entitled "So I herd some things."
For great justice.
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Gothikia
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Bazman I read the title and thought it was about something else :P
"Do a barrel roll!"
YTMND ftw 
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VCBee 211
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:00:00 -
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Barrel Roll 101:
1. Launch Drone 2. Orbit Drone 3. Profit
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new civaluz
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Gothikia
Originally by: Bazman I read the title and thought it was about something else :P
"Do a barrel roll!"
YTMND ftw 
4chan not ytmnd.
ytmnd adds music to 4chan meme's
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CivaluZ
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:02:00 -
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^ :| my alt
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:03:00 -
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And then Dark Shikari posts every rubbish meme from the arse end of the internet (yup, still 4chan) here.
uh... Brutor stole my bike!
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |

Shayla Etherodyne
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: Shayla Etherodyne on 05/12/2006 18:10:23
Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
Sometime copyright laws seem done by someone totally mad, like Tolkien enterprises trademarking the name of the dwarves in The Hobbit, they where in norse mitology only from year 800 or so.
Airplane pilots pay a fee now to make a barrel roll? 
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Etti Caruse
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
I dunno...In EnB you could do a barrel roll while warping...
EA: 1 CCP: 100
i miss EnB :(
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DiuxDium
The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:25:00 -
[55]
In after epic get. I make sigs for free. Do eve-mail me if you're intested. |

Xen Gin
The Dragoons
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:26:00 -
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I think he just said that as an excuse not to impliment. I havent seen any proof yet that EA trademarked/copywrited.
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Anatolius
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Etherodyne
Sometime copyright laws seem done by someone totally mad, like Tolkien enterprises trademarking the name of the dwarves in The Hobbit, they where in norse mitology only from year 800 or so.
The Tolkien estate does not hold a trademark on 'dwarf', 'dwarves', et cetera. The names of specific dwarves from the books, quite possibly, and rightly so.
They did, however, and possibly still do hold a trademark on 'hobbit'. This is why Dungeons and Dragons has elves, dwarves, and 'halflings' - they tried for hobbits, and got their arses handed to them by the Tolkien estate faster than one could say, "Arrgh, they're always after me lucky Silmarils!"
I have it on good authority that the estate also holds a trademark on heterosexual elves, and defends it to the point of not even letting Peter Jackson use them in his movies. 
EVE should trademark 'pew pew pew' and then sue games that use lasers. 
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Anatolius
EVE should trademark 'pew pew pew' and then sue games that use lasers. 
Lol, best quote of the thread  -----------------------------------------------
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Ashturi Nagano
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ashturi Nagano on 05/12/2006 19:05:16 If you think that patenting the barrell roll as an emote is silly, I met the guy that trademarked the phrase "Freedom of Speech." Oddly enough, that's allowed, too.
btw, the words "dwarves", "dwarvish" were trademarked. The "proper" words are "dwarfs", dwarfish, etc. Until Tolkien, neither the word "elven" (was "elfin") nor "dwarves" was ever used. So, it's not the people it's the form of the word that's trademarked.
Now, the word "elven" IS a german word (I believe. Deutsch speakers help me out), but we're speaking in English (mostly), in which "elven" did not exist before Tolkien.
Granted...that doesn't make it any less ridiculous. ----- Kyoturi clan priorities: Customer > Kyoturi > Everyone else "Still Xenophobes after 26 centuries" |

Krulla
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Krulla on 05/12/2006 19:03:40
Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
How the **** can you trademark something like that? 
I'm trademarking the use of Guns in video games! Muhahah! Or better yet, weapons! Every game, ever, except the sims must now pay me royalities! >_>
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Anatolius
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ashturi Nagano Edited by: Ashturi Nagano on 05/12/2006 19:05:16 If you think that patenting the barrell roll as an emote is silly, I met the guy that trademarked the phrase "Freedom of Speech." Oddly enough, that's allowed, too.
btw, the words "dwarves", "dwarvish" were trademarked. The "proper" words are "dwarfs", dwarfish, etc. Until Tolkien, neither the word "elven" (was "elfin") nor "dwarves" was ever used. So, it's not the people it's the form of the word that's trademarked.
Now, the word "elven" IS a german word (I believe. Deutsch speakers help me out), but we're speaking in English (mostly), in which "elven" did not exist before Tolkien.
Granted...that doesn't make it any less ridiculous.
Interesting. Probably my confusion then; one would figure that if the words were really trademarked, lawsuits would abound. Well, I for one thank the Tolkien estate. Dwarven and elven looks more aesthetically pleasing than dwarfish and elfin 
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Tzarkan Tzeench
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: Anatolius
EVE should trademark 'pew pew pew' and then sue games that use lasers. 
Lol, best quote of the thread 
quoting an epic quote (possible doublepost, grr forums)
/b/rothers
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JoCool
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ashturi Nagano Edited by: Ashturi Nagano on 05/12/2006 19:05:16 If you think that patenting the barrell roll as an emote is silly, I met the guy that trademarked the phrase "Freedom of Speech." Oddly enough, that's allowed, too.
btw, the words "dwarves", "dwarvish" were trademarked. The "proper" words are "dwarfs", dwarfish, etc. Until Tolkien, neither the word "elven" (was "elfin") nor "dwarves" was ever used. So, it's not the people it's the form of the word that's trademarked.
Now, the word "elven" IS a german word (I believe. Deutsch speakers help me out), but we're speaking in English (mostly), in which "elven" did not exist before Tolkien.
Granted...that doesn't make it any less ridiculous.
Yes Elv/Elf, Elven/Elfen refers to Elb/Elben which was a medieval term used for the tall blonde pale germans living in the forests north of the Elbe near modern Hamburg. I'm a rl Elve myself . In some older german history textes you will find the word Nordelben (Northelves) which is the persona for Nordelbien which is the old term the church still uses for this region today! _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool |

JoCool
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:31:00 -
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Oh, patenting barrel roll as an emote sucks hard. We should have some radical eve fanataniacs setting EA up ze bomb.
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Ubel Feuer
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:41:00 -
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I was wondering how long it would take for 4chan to come up in this thread... perhaps some fresh prince lyrics now?
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Epoh
Kudzu Collective Pride - Honor - Duty
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Epoh on 05/12/2006 19:47:26
Originally by: JoCool I'm a rl Elve myself
There should really be an 'emo' emote on these boards for exactly this quote.
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Originally by: JoCool I'm a rl Elve myself
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2006.12.05 20:47:00 -
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Wait.. so EA trade marked Barrel Roll as an EMOTE.. correct?
You should be able to put it in Eve-online. Ships do not do Emotes. Nor is a Barrel roll a "Emote".
Here is how you get "barrel roll" into eve online.
New Training Skill. Roll Maneuvers. Increase Avoidance of Missles. On Small Maneuverable ships, ship will Roll to Avoid missles.
Small Maneuverable ships can now Roll to avoid missles (this is a uncontrollable action, but a nice touch to see happen). No longer a emote, its not a Barrel Roll, its a Roll Maneuver.
Fixed with only 5 minutes thought.
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Rico Naginata
Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Rico Naginata on 05/12/2006 21:56:28
Originally by: Ubel Feuer I was wondering how long it would take for 4chan to come up in this thread... perhaps some fresh prince lyrics now?
Lol, that reminds me of a time when i was in my trusty moa ratting in lowsec... i killed a shadow serp spawn, moved in to collect the loot, see local jump...seconds later a bunch of gankbears warp in and i got in 1 little fight and my mom got scared, said youre moving with your auntie and uncle in bel-air
as it happens "bel-air" is from &TOTSE. :P
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2006.12.05 22:09:00 -
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I am calling BS. I cannot beleive you can patent a barrel rol in a mmorpg.
If it was possible by now someone would have patent on walking animation in a mmo .....
To the OP and specifically to EVE team, I think you guys should work on some new flight animations even if it is randomly peforming certain flight tricks kinda like random attack animiations in the tradiction sword and magic RPG. Make them ship specifical maybe like 1-2 each so you don;t get titans doing barrel rolls :P
also as a side note would be nice if eve didnt play so horizontal for a space roleplaying game I would expect sometiems I would orbit in all directions not just horizontal plane...
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.12.05 22:12:00 -
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I think they should work on the lag, the bugs, the graphics update and the sounds update.
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TheDevilsJury
principle of motion R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.05 22:47:00 -
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I too am calling BS on the trademarking. I think he's just kidding us...
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Anthal Some guy in game named "Peppy" told me to use 'Z' or 'R' twice.
He also said something about using "the boost to get you through."
I don't trust him, he had rabbit ears.
Greatest thing i have read all day.. thank you sir... thank you so very much!
ok ok that was harsh, i dont hate mods.. as an apology the mod who shows the most wuv gets a free mercedes...
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GrumpyCat
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:54:00 -
[73]
I wish EA trademarked "jump queues".
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:59:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2
...If it was possible by now someone would have patent on walking animation in a mmo ...
Someone did, everyone run to get around.
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WarGod
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.12.06 00:14:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Anthal Some guy in game named "Peppy" told me to use 'Z' or 'R' twice.
He also said something about using "the boost to get you through."
I don't trust him, he had rabbit ears.
lol that game was c00l back in the day *snip*
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Holy Priest
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Posted - 2006.12.06 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ubel Feuer I was wondering how long it would take for 4chan to come up in this thread... perhaps some fresh prince lyrics now?
I dont think you fully understand dow extreamly superior /b/ is. Its the future of humanity, sensless life flowing in posts. it shows the true face of the human race.
Anonymous does not forgive, Anonymous does not forget, we are Anonymous, we are Legion. All hail Forced Anon our /b/rothers in arms also m00t.
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HankMurphy
Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror
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Posted - 2006.12.06 00:28:00 -
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sounds pretty fishy to me.
and if it was true, they would have a hell of a time w/ a law suit
especially if you just named the ship manuveur something else!
you cant patent/cpywrite/whatever the actual movement anymore than you can patent flying forwards or walking around. you can have legal write to the code you wrote to do it, but thats neither here nor there
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2006.12.06 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
What a ridiculous state of affairs and/or excuse if it really is true ..
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Stitcher
Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.06 01:18:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Milena Rage how do I shot web? D:
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.12.06 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Black Torment If our ships have crews (hotly debated as of old) Its a sure fire way to get them all throwing up, if their heads don't explode.
[hijack] There's no debate, any ship larger than a frigate has a crew, people who 'debate' crews haven't likely read the PF or seen the old blueprint drawings from a long time ago (I only recently saw them myself).
In the Wetgrave, the jove tell the Caldari how the pod works, and mention that ships such as frigates, can operate with only a pod. Hands of a Killer clearly shows that battleships carry several thousand crew members as well. [/hijack]
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Horatio Nately
Caldari 808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.06 02:15:00 -
[81]
I can just see a BS in eve doing a barrel roll. As graceful as a 747 would do one...  --------------------------------------- Operations Officer, 808 Enterprises Yes Eight Oh Eight, Not Bee Oh Bee |

Frug
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.06 04:25:00 -
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Another reason to hate EA games. And incidentally to love CCP because I doubt you guys would do something lame like trademark a barrel roll emote.
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Altrex Stoppel
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.06 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
So could CCP actually be sued for doing a barrel roll?!?! LMAO **** that then well have /tailspin! We need a flight emote cmon now 
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.12.06 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Nately I can just see a BS in eve doing a barrel roll. As graceful as a 747 would do one... 
They can't. well, not without doing serious structural damage. I would have to ask my dad, but I don't think that any modern commercial airliners can fly inverted without doing nasty things to the wings, like snap them off.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.12.06 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix Jones Wait.. so EA trade marked Barrel Roll as an EMOTE.. correct?
You should be able to put it in Eve-online. Ships do not do Emotes. Nor is a Barrel roll a "Emote".
Here is how you get "barrel roll" into eve online.
New Training Skill. Roll Maneuvers. Increase Avoidance of Missles. On Small Maneuverable ships, ship will Roll to Avoid missles.
Small Maneuverable ships can now Roll to avoid missles (this is a uncontrollable action, but a nice touch to see happen). No longer a emote, its not a Barrel Roll, its a Roll Maneuver.
Fixed with only 5 minutes thought.
A barrel roll would do jack to the guidance system of a missle because it does not complicate the intercept solution in any way. Your vector is still the same, and your airpseed doesn't decrease appreciably. Best way to defeat a missle is to put it on your Z axis and pull hard into it when the missle gets to withen a range determined by it's speed and your turning radious. This causes the missle to snap in two from to many G forces, hopefully..... On older infrared guided missles it was simply put yourself between the sun and the missle, then cut engine to idle and dump flares while you manuver away. This is an example of beating the guidance system.
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The Armin
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.06 06:43:00 -
[86]
Lyticus made his Thorax do a barrel roll in his Pirates Life movie, I WANT MY GEDDON TO DO THE SAME DAMMIT ! 
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Aphotic Raven
Gallente Spectral Armada Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.06 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Nately I can just see a BS in eve doing a barrel roll. As graceful as a 747 would do one... 
Dominix already does when it feels like it... its like a morbidly obese bovine ballerina
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Aphotic Raven
Gallente Spectral Armada Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.06 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Audri Fisher On older infrared guided missles it was simply put yourself between the sun and the missle, then cut engine to idle and dump flares while you manuver away. This is an example of beating the guidance system.
You're a genius, finally a reason for CCP to make a missle nerfer... we've got tracking disruptors to screw everyone else.. but missles always hit... always and always... unless you can outrun a missle, you're gonna get hurt.
Chaff... Flares... Point defence lasers.... lets go CCP. Nerf missles like everyone else gets nerfed.
ECMs dead... sensor damps your only chance now...
Quote: Melicien Tetro: I tried to fight a shark with a pistol underwater once, and I'll be ****ed if he didn't laugh at me and eat me. Sharks need a ******* nerf. True story
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Anndy
Caldari Praetorian Black Guard Serenus Letum
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Posted - 2006.12.06 07:11:00 -
[89]
Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
how in the hell is it possible to trademark something like that? leave it to EA to try and hog everything they put into a game lol
eve doesnt really need something like that tho, sure emotes would be kinda fun at first but would eventually become something no 1 cares about Please resize your signature to the limits specified in the forum rules, thanks. -wystler ([email protected])
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Juwi Kotch
Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.12.06 07:20:00 -
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A trademark is a name for something, nothing more. So when you are talking about cereals, you cannot use the name Kellog's for it, unless you own it.
So EA has trademarked the emote "barrel role". With that, they have only reserved the right to use this special wording for this special emote. It does not mean that others are not allowed to do a barrel role in their games, just like no other people are forbidden to produce cornflakes. You just cannot use the name.
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Dagrin RDM
Caldari The Knights of the New Republic Forces of Freedom
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Posted - 2006.12.06 07:29:00 -
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Everbody do the.....
\beerkeg spin
Like a barrel roll, but with beer, so the Devs like it!
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Silvatico
Far Ranger
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Posted - 2006.12.06 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane The "Happy Birthday Song" was copyrighted by some woman.
You heard it, the song that people sings at birthdays is copyrighted. If the song is ever used in movies, radio, commercials, etc the woman has to be paid.
To be fair, the woman did have some claim as sister (and copyright administrator) of (arguably) the writer of the song.
In my mind, it is reasonable that the song was covered by copyright... the problem today is that the song is still covered by copyright more than 70 years after publication and perhaps a century after it was written and publicly performed. Upon publication, the publisher expected under the laws of that time that the copyright would last 28 years, until 1963.
See Snopes for more information.
It is bizarre (and, I submit, bad) that in a world that supposedly gets faster and faster all the time, copyright terms are tending to get longer and longer.
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DefJam101
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.06 23:49:00 -
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DO A BARREL ROLL!
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Silvatico
Far Ranger
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Posted - 2006.12.06 23:57:00 -
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Getting myself back on topic, [Sounding innocent:] perhaps the solution is to 'simply' allow direct control of our ship's flight in real time?
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Enotz
Terminus Est Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.12.07 00:04:00 -
[95]
I was reading a reader's digest while bored on thanksgiving...apperently some companies own patents to peices of DNA now ^^
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Grandeur
Gallente STK Scientific
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Posted - 2006.12.07 00:15:00 -
[96]
This thread is great.
Peppy had it right.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2006.12.07 00:20:00 -
[97]
Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option.
That is so easy to workaround. CCP just needs to trademark the emote "barrel roll with colored smoke trails" and they're in the clear.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.12.07 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Aphotic Raven
Originally by: Audri Fisher On older infrared guided missles it was simply put yourself between the sun and the missle, then cut engine to idle and dump flares while you manuver away. This is an example of beating the guidance system.
You're a genius, finally a reason for CCP to make a missle nerfer... we've got tracking disruptors to screw everyone else.. but missles always hit... always and always... unless you can outrun a missle, you're gonna get hurt.
Chaff... Flares... Point defence lasers.... lets go CCP. Nerf missles like everyone else gets nerfed.
ECMs dead... sensor damps your only chance now...
It would have to be a tad more sophisticated than that, flares don't work against modern missles, everybody still uses them though because the USSR and modern russia doesn't detroy there old outdated weapons, they dump them on the market. 
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Deikan Frost
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.07 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
ROFL! The BASTARDS! I knew EA was behind this... DAMN YOU EA! But hey, why don't you just trademark a "spin" instead? It's not a Barrel roll, it's a SPIN! If only some ships could do it it'd be amazing! (i.e. Frigates and other fast and small ships)
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eveplayer11
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Posted - 2006.12.07 03:19:00 -
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eh... you can trademark emotes in a game? omg will there be anything left in the future? someone trademarks /me and no more /me emotes  trademark /you right now CCP or else its gone in the future... lol
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Ansuru Starlancer
The Phoenix Rising Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.07 10:28:00 -
[101]
Originally by: kieron Similar to a range of emote commands used in other MMOGs with avatars, the Barrel Roll was an emote used in EA's now defunct game, Earth and Beyond. EA was able to trademark the use of a barrel roll in a MMOG as an emote, so that is something you will not see in EVE as an option. The rolls you see in the videos are fighter animations and not player controlled.
Something else to think about, can you imagine flying around in a Mothership, typing, /roll and being stuck while the ship makes a lazy roll before being able to align for warp? Not a pretty picture if you end up in structure.
That's ridiculous. Trademark a barrel roll? Just because it's in an MMOG rather than a flight sim?
I, and the professors at my U, have said for ages that copyright/etc laws are outdated and need severe changes, but that is beyond all common sense. EA needs to die. Go out of business and die!
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Filthy Sneak
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Posted - 2006.12.08 22:26:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Kwint Sommer
Originally by: Christina Vallentine
How is it possible to trademark or patton something thats a common term and been used by planes for years... (real planes)
I'd fight that one. Thats like putting a trademark on the word "Air" and if anyone else uses the word they can be sued.
The use of roll as an emote is patented not the actual action which is why fighters can do it. Roll can still be used just not as a player directed command which while stupid isn't as stupid as you make it out to be.
Probably the worst abuse at the moment is the patenting of hybridized DNA, not simply the method but rather the actual DNA which is itself simply new combinations of existing sequences. In my opinion being able to combine two common strands of DNA and patent it is analogous to combining two colors of paint and patenting the resulting color. You can claim to have invented the process but the actual freaking color?
....you can patent colors, UPS Brown, Target Red, Tiffany's Sicklyness, IBM Blue... all patented. oh and that whole patent the smiley face that walmart tried to do...ha! also the whole patenting the word elf and orc when the lotr movies came out..flipping ludacris.
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Evelyn Lavi
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Posted - 2006.12.08 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: Evelyn Lavi on 08/12/2006 22:52:02 Ahh, good ol' Peppy.
More Peppy-ness also applies to EVE:
USE THE BOOST!
"USE (smart) BOMBS WISELY!"
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Worms Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:13:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Aphotic Raven
Originally by: Audri Fisher On older infrared guided missles it was simply put yourself between the sun and the missle, then cut engine to idle and dump flares while you manuver away. This is an example of beating the guidance system.
You're a genius, finally a reason for CCP to make a missle nerfer... we've got tracking disruptors to screw everyone else.. but missles always hit... always and always... unless you can outrun a missle, you're gonna get hurt.
Chaff... Flares... Point defence lasers.... lets go CCP. Nerf missles like everyone else gets nerfed.
ECMs dead... sensor damps your only chance now...
It would have to be a tad more sophisticated than that, flares don't work against modern missles, everybody still uses them though because the USSR and modern russia doesn't detroy there old outdated weapons, they dump them on the market. 
well even the US has several heatseekers, the Sidewinder and Stinger come to mind. both have great success rates for kills too. sadly EVE combat even frigates will never be as cool as true jet fighter or WW2 prop fighter combat. id so fly a condor or inty if i could hook up my USB joystick, switch to guns punch the Afterburner into a hard inverted loop, drop in behind the enemy and go hot with cannons.
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Zomiaen
Gallente Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:27:00 -
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When do we get the /pizza command?  _________________________
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Morhon
Amarr Aegis Starship Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:29:00 -
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actually the devs have some /<do somthing> commands.... the roll you saw though is indeed a fighter acting normal. Does my bum look big in this cape? |

Zeonos
Amarr venus divine brotherhood Dark Forces Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:34:00 -
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/spin :) and the ship spins. :)
damn.. think im gonna start saving up to trademark the /dance emote :D... for every time it used i want 1$... :) Bye wow and gw.. :D
Donations should be sent too.
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Ma Raia'l
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:46:00 -
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I think there needs to be a clearing up of definitions. A Barrel roll is defined as:
barrel roll
n : a roll in which the plane follows a spiral course
What you could do in Earth & Beyond is called an Aileron Roll, which is defined as:
aileron roll ûnoun Aeronautics. a roll consisting of one or more rotations, usually controlled by the use of ailerons.
If trademark is worded in such a way that the act of the ship doing a so-called "barrel roll", that is a non-corkscrew like roll, is trademarked, we will still be able to do a REAL barrel roll. However due to the confusion, the trademark may be worded in such a way that it is the act of an real barrel roll that is trademarked, we will still be able to do an aileron roll, and few people would know the difference.
For clarity, please refer to the below link. The difference between an aileron roll and a barrel roll
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ELECTR0FREAK
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Zomiaen When do we get the /pizza command? 
I know, I'm so tired of actually having to pick up the phone and dial.
Speaking of which, I think the pizza is here right now! Dinner time!
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.09 00:00:00 -
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Even if the trademark claim is true (which I doubt), it wouldn't hold water because you must continually reinforce your TM claims when referencing trademarked names. If the emote was /barrelrollÖ they may have has a case, otherwise, no.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Frug
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.09 00:06:00 -
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Boycott EA games.
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