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Jack Forge
Gallente
Prox XII
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 00:42:00 -
[61]
nbsi policies are used to secure space mostly
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Madcat Adams
Mission Runners Anonymous Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.12.11 07:08:00 -
[62]
Not terriably suprising, though if your chaps shot first, it's understandable. One of my dear uncles (OOC: one of my market alts) flew up in a shuttle to check the market at a ISS base. Knowing pirates were about, he was a bit nervous, and ran into a gate camp. Seeing it was ISS ships, he breathed a sigh of relief, but before a second breath could be drawn, his ship was destroyed, and he was waking up at a cloaning facility. Upon contacting they claimed he was a spy, but there was not even an attempt at communication. We stay clear of ISS space now, low secuirty trade is hardly worth losing ships to me. At least in Jita I know the score flying in. 
It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Aimez- "oh ****, this is empire......."
Thanks for the loot, and next time you go out to pirate, carry more tech 2 plz =) |
Horatio Nately
Caldari
808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.11 07:59:00 -
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There are 3 types of people in eve:ISS, Those that have set ISS to KOS, and those that are going to set ISS to KOS that havent realized it yet.
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Operations Officer, 808 Enterprises
Yes Eight Oh Eight, Not Bee Oh Bee
My Opinions pretty much represent my corp.
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Rockbox
Amarr
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.12.11 08:15:00 -
[64]
 Originally by: Horatio Nately
There are 3 types of people in eve:ISS, Those that have set ISS to KOS, and those that are going to set ISS to KOS that havent realized it yet.
omg, 
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 11:21:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Rockbox
Originally by: Horatio Nately
There are 3 types of people in eve:ISS, Those that have set ISS to KOS, and those that are going to set ISS to KOS that havent realized it yet.
omg,
High-Sec/0.0 PvP Recruitment |
Luthien Firefoot
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.11 12:28:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/12/2006 01:37:07
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot
Edited by: Luthien Firefoot on 09/12/2006 16:37:29
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it.
Meaningless words. Show me some evidence.
Give me an example of where ISS have INITIATED hostilities on someone who had not fired on them first.
Go on, we're all waiting.
There's only 3 types of people who defend ISS neutrality:
1) ISS or alts
2) People with shares / isk in ISS assets.
3) Morons.
Which category do you belong to?
There are only three types of people who completely avoid a sensible written question, or request for evidence to back a claim
1) The blind
2) The ignorant
3) Tards
Which are you?
So having had time to read the evidence and digest it I don't suppose it's dawned on you yet that you are a complete idiot.
I didn't have any respect for ISS anyway, because as I said before I know they are not neutral, but letting a moronic, ignorant, amoebic inbreed speak for them just confirms that they should all burn.
Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |
Luthien Firefoot
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.11 12:31:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Horatio Nately
There are 3 types of people in eve:ISS, Those that have set ISS to KOS, and those that are going to set ISS to KOS that havent realized it yet.
qftd.
SOOO true.
Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |
Xander Magnus
Caldari
Wolf Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.11 12:51:00 -
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Ah yes, let loose the dogs of war and shoot the ISS haulers! Seriously guys, as much as I like to shoot easy targets, lets be honoroble and not give silly excuses for our actions. There's no shame in admitting shooting industrialists is fun, but saying you do it because of some fabricated reason is just sad.
ISS is a large alliance and there will always be incidents, expecting the alliance to be perfectly neutral is just plainly stupid. They try as best as they can, that's obvious to me. As long as you don't operate on some shady gray area you're always safe against them, they never shot my industrial cousin.
This said, and the celebrations started for the 100th thread of: 'ISS isn't neutral, WTFBBQ them!!', just admit you shoot ISS for the money and shooting easy targets is just easier and more fun then targets that are good at shooting back.
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Gaita
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Posted - 2006.12.11 15:16:00 -
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This issue has been resolved. If agreements are not upheld the community will be the first to know. I strongly believe they will be upheld. This thread has served its purpose, any further posting will just be an attempt to create a flame war, thus this thread should be closed.
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MrRogerz
The Neighborhood
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Posted - 2006.12.13 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Murukan
butter it's quite cute really to see you trying to be iss' knight in shining armor, but unfortunately it's too late. Everyone knows iss is as about as nuetral as bob and no amount of forum crying will change that fact.
no dude, they dont know. Anyone who will mess with the shareholder's assets will be decimated I promise you
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Xander Magnus
Caldari
Wolf Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.13 05:07:00 -
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Edited by: Xander Magnus on 13/12/2006 05:07:29
Murukan, in every thread about ISS I see that ugly pink signature of yours a thousand times stating the same lame arguments and opinions like they are facts, and you are always personally attacking everyone. I know for a fact that you are under 18 years old, and this alone should ring a bell for you... Grow up and please stop posting...
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VeNT
Minmatar
Freelancer Union
Unaffiliated
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Posted - 2006.12.13 10:39:00 -
[72]
I'm just going to say that its nice to see that ISS and Dismemberment have managed to sort this out like adults even with all the trollers and flames going on in this thread.
It's heart warming to see that alliances and corps in EVE still have the capacity to resolve their issues without resorting to smalk talk.
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Wylker
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 16:57:00 -
[73]
Gaita-
You guys were awesome in convo and I'm really glad we were able to work everything out. See you in space :)
Click the sig to understand
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Gaita
Minmatar
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.13 20:52:00 -
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yes you as well....however we are still waiting for delivery of jerusalem
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Namelesz
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.14 20:36:00 -
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FYI,
We did have a great convo and negotiations that night. BUT, that was last week and it is now the 14th and ISS has never met the terms or responded to our inquiry of those terms to be met after negotiations. The 48 hour window we agreed on has long passed. I have sent you an eve-mail Wylker couple days ago but no responses back yet.
The cease-fire was still in effect but we regret to inform you now that standings will have to be reset.
See you in space.
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Butter Dog
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.14 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Namelesz
FYI,
We did have a great convo and negotiations that night. BUT, that was last week and it is now the 14th and ISS has never met the terms or responded to our inquiry of those terms to be met after negotiations. The 48 hour window we agreed on has long passed. I have sent you an eve-mail Wylker couple days ago but no responses back yet.
The cease-fire was still in effect but we regret to inform you now that standings will have to be reset.
See you in space.
Terms?
lol
Just don't shoot ISS, and ISS won't shoot you :)
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Wylker
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.15 03:32:00 -
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I answered your eve-mail yesterday I think. Sorry the gears are moving slowly, IAC's little tiff has thrown some things out of wack.
Click the sig to understand
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Helganstandt
Finis Lumen
Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.12.18 07:49:00 -
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I'm interested to see how ISS handles this issue actually. It would be a good measure on their part if they managed to fix this issue. That would at least show me that while Praxis may have a lot of renegades with itchy trigger fingers, ISS is finally willing to come to terms with it and do something about it.
By the way, I should mention that our corporation falls under "any other corp or alliance who have also been stung by the injustice dished out by ISS in the south."
So if your dealings with ISS fall through, and should we happen to be in the Curse or Catch regions, we'd be more than happy to go raiding ISS with you.
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.18 16:51:00 -
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NPC corp neutrals will always be fired on in 0.0. additionally, ISS and MC (cant speak for allies) are operating on NBSI policy in the f4r2 system (this system ONLY). its a warzone, and no other policy is possible or workable
Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Gaita
Minmatar
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.18 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Gaita on 18/12/2006 16:57:29
Fixing situations such as this should be a top priority, the fact that it had gone so long and no contact was made, means they did not take it seriously. Thus we have no reason to continue negotiations with an entity that does not take us seriously.
DMEM understands the war with IAC has got their attention focused in another direction. But diplomatic relations should never be sacrificed!
MC has no involvement with this, nor was it any understanding that we would have any terms with MC.
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18 Rabbit
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Posted - 2006.12.18 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Gaita
Edited by: Gaita on 18/12/2006 16:57:29
Fixing situations such as this should be a top priority, the fact that it had gone so long and no contact was made, means they did not take it seriously. Thus we have no reason to continue negotiations with an entity that does not take us seriously.
DMEM understands the war with IAC has got their attention focused in another direction. But diplomatic relations should never be sacrificed!
MC has no involvement with this, nor was it any understanding that we would have any terms with MC.
Honestly, I would think priorities would be the invasion from IAC, the new station raising, and the largest IPO in gaming history, but despite all that you were responded to, within a day after your arbitrary 48-hour window.
If you think that extra day delay under those circumstances is some kind of horrible provocation, I guess that's your perogative. To most people it just sort of looks like you're looking for a problem, but it really shouldn't be hard to work something out. Assuming that's what you want.
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Gaita
Minmatar
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.18 19:17:00 -
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I wont be pulled into a flame war of who did what when and why. Ill pull convos and gather my information and all records if that is what is wished by the community.
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.18 21:39:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: dantes inferno
ISS are only neutral when it suits them. Their are countles upon countles examples of their non neutrality.
Give me just 3, then.
I'm waiting...
Day one
Day two
Day three
in EC
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Dark Shikari
What single item is larger than a jetcan?
My ego?
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.12.19 10:36:00 -
[84]
Aww don't feel bad its been my opinion over the years that most ISS pilots deserve to be shot. Wait thats pretty much my opinion about everyone oh well do what ya do.
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Booster Terrick
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Posted - 2007.01.05 01:57:00 -
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As usual, I'm not amazed by the "ganker squads" jumping on the "I hate ISS" bandwagon...it's laughable how many of you pirate corps keep beating them over the head with their own charter, never dreaming of keeping anything resembling a promise yourselves.
Industrialists they are and fairly trustworthy, but you've never shown yourselves to be trustworthy at any time. I'd be surprised to find if for every 10 times ISS struggles to keep its declared neutrality if Sudden Death Squad, Snigg or the rest of you manage to keep an agreement once.
Making treaties with murderers will only get one murdered sooner or later. I for one will never trust a pirate, since the only good one is a dead one. 
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2007.01.05 14:11:00 -
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ISS is neutral.
Neutral doesn't mean helpless
People think they're slick, then they get hit and cry about it
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Alterari Phoenix
Gallente
Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.07 06:04:00 -
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ORLY!!! from being a previous member of the praxis initative i agree with everybody who says that we were allowing neutrals to move through our space unless provoked to attack witch was almost quite often because we got the reputation for being carebears the noobs who tried to atttack us were killed because they were stupid
The One Who is considered smart by others is usually dumb and the excluded loser in the corner is usually the smartest of the lot!!!!! |
Superbus Maximus
Gallente
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.01.07 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Booster Terrick
As usual, I'm not amazed by the "ganker squads" jumping on the "I hate ISS" bandwagon...it's laughable how many of you pirate corps keep beating them over the head with their own charter, never dreaming of keeping anything resembling a promise yourselves.
Industrialists they are and fairly trustworthy, but you've never shown yourselves to be trustworthy at any time. I'd be surprised to find if for every 10 times ISS struggles to keep its declared neutrality if Sudden Death Squad, Snigg or the rest of you manage to keep an agreement once.
Making treaties with murderers will only get one murdered sooner or later. I for one will never trust a pirate, since the only good one is a dead one.
We have many agreements that have been in place for years. None of which are your buisness or anyone elses but ours, so again people like make false assumptions. We kill people because its fun and we prefer to keep out of politics, because its fing boring. Killing people is fun so we try to keep our targeting options as open as possible.
Ha you think thats big wait till you see the next |
Cupdeez
Vengeance of the Fallen
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.08 19:01:00 -
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I don't think this really is a problem anymore.
ISS just lost KDF and I think D2 and others took there outpost in the north.
ISS might not have any 0.0 space left.
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Michael McNeil
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Posted - 2007.01.12 15:51:00 -
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I DO NOT speak for ISS, I HAVE NO SPEAKING power. what is written here is my feelings nothing else.
1st if this has started after IAC attacked us, then you know its a war zone. this happens in war, civi's/nutrals allways get cought in the cross fire. the only nutrals we shoot keep appairing, or are known alts of priates, or other hostiles. so if you are neither I strongly urge you to keep tryingt to get into contact with our diplomats, to resolve this. and remamber if you live in a war zone, your taking your life into your own hands.
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