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Verone Veto.	Posted - 2006.12.08 08:59:00 - [31] ISS aren't a neutral alliance, and should never be considered one. There is no such thing as a "Neutral Alliance". ISS simply use this term to reduce the amount of corporations who shoot at their stations and members. They fire on who they want and make up excuses if it's questioned. That, is not neutrality. VETO FOR HIRE
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.08 13:28:00 - [32] Originally by: Verone ISS aren't a neutral alliance, and should never be considered one. There is no such thing as a "Neutral Alliance". ISS simply use this term to reduce the amount of corporations who shoot at their stations and members. They fire on who they want and make up excuses if it's questioned. That, is not neutrality. ISS clearly do NOT fire on whoever they wish, and you know this. They fire on those who have ALREADY initiated hostilities toward them. I'm sorry that you're still a little bitter about failing to take the U'K outpost, but you need to get over it and cease spreading obvious lies such as the one above. If you feel you have evidence to support your claim they 'shoot who they like' (ie not at people who have ALREADY been hostile toward them), then present it here. Otherwise, we can all assume you accept what you have said is a lie.
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2006.12.08 13:58:00 - [33] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Verone ISS aren't a neutral alliance, and should never be considered one. There is no such thing as a "Neutral Alliance". ISS simply use this term to reduce the amount of corporations who shoot at their stations and members. They fire on who they want and make up excuses if it's questioned. That, is not neutrality. ISS clearly do NOT fire on whoever they wish, and you know this. They fire on those who have ALREADY initiated hostilities toward them. I'm sorry that you're still a little bitter about failing to take the U'K outpost, but you need to get over it and cease spreading obvious lies such as the one above. If you feel you have evidence to support your claim they 'shoot who they like' (ie not at people who have ALREADY been hostile toward them), then present it here. Otherwise, we can all assume you accept what you have said is a lie. ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it. Delictum 23216 Official forums
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.12.08 14:03:00 - [34] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Verone ISS aren't a neutral alliance, and should never be considered one. There is no such thing as a "Neutral Alliance". ISS simply use this term to reduce the amount of corporations who shoot at their stations and members. They fire on who they want and make up excuses if it's questioned. That, is not neutrality. ISS clearly do NOT fire on whoever they wish, and you know this. They fire on those who have ALREADY initiated hostilities toward them. I'm sorry that you're still a little bitter about failing to take the U'K outpost, but you need to get over it and cease spreading obvious lies such as the one above. If you feel you have evidence to support your claim they 'shoot who they like' (ie not at people who have ALREADY been hostile toward them), then present it here. Otherwise, we can all assume you accept what you have said is a lie. Whether its true or not, perception is the key and it seems ISS have lost it totally. ----
Cloudis	Posted - 2006.12.08 14:13:00 - [35] The only one from Dismemberment that should be posting here is Namelesz, this means not you Gaita, last I checked.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.08 15:13:00 - [36] Originally by: Verone ISS aren't a neutral alliance, and should never be considered one. There is no such thing as a "Neutral Alliance". ISS simply use this term to reduce the amount of corporations who shoot at their stations and members. They fire on who they want and make up excuses if it's questioned. That, is not neutrality. QFT ____________ The Priory Killboard
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.08 18:41:00 - [37] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Verone ISS aren't a neutral alliance, and should never be considered one. There is no such thing as a "Neutral Alliance". ISS simply use this term to reduce the amount of corporations who shoot at their stations and members. They fire on who they want and make up excuses if it's questioned. That, is not neutrality. ISS clearly do NOT fire on whoever they wish, and you know this. They fire on those who have ALREADY initiated hostilities toward them. I'm sorry that you're still a little bitter about failing to take the U'K outpost, but you need to get over it and cease spreading obvious lies such as the one above. If you feel you have evidence to support your claim they 'shoot who they like' (ie not at people who have ALREADY been hostile toward them), then present it here. Otherwise, we can all assume you accept what you have said is a lie. i've seen iss members attack nuetrals when they were camping litom. So yes they do shoot however they please don't give me that bull** Manlove by Zaphod Jones**
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.08 22:15:00 - [38] Originally by: Murukan i've seen iss members attack nuetrals when they were camping litom. So yes they do shoot however they please don't give me that bull**** How would you know if the people they were shooting were neutral or not, exactly? I don't believe you share standings with them.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.08 22:16:00 - [39] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it. Meaningless words. Show me some evidence. Give me an example of where ISS have INITIATED hostilities on someone who had not fired on them first. Go on, we're all waiting.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.09 02:49:00 - [40] butter it's quite cute really to see you trying to be iss' knight in shining armor, but unfortunately it's too late. Everyone knows iss is as about as nuetral as bob and no amount of forum crying will change that fact. Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Wylker The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.09 04:09:00 - [41] Edited by: Wylker on 09/12/2006 04:27:05 So far I see posts from Dismemberment (who I believe are actually working on getting positive standings with ISS), Snigg (I mean seriously, you just congratulated yourselves on your 10k podmail) and Priory. Priory, maybe you should focus on not getting your players banned from eve and actually try to accomplish something. Since now you can no longer camp outpost stations with your AFK recon ships, I wonder if you're going to have to find some miners elsewhere to pirate. It is really unfortunate actually, that you have many good pvpers that are respectable people in your corp/alliance, yet you continually let your least intelligent, most immature players represent you in chat channels and on the forums. We have had several good fights with Priory, but it always seems that when certain individuals are involved everything degenerates into childish actions and idiotic smacktalk. SOD you could actually establish yourselves as an influence in the south if you would simply not allow people like Murukan and Magz (who was banned from the game for his behavior once already) be representatives of your alliance.
insanebe Caldari soni Corp Imperium Sonorumance	Posted - 2006.12.09 08:41:00 - [42] Originally by: Murukan butter it's quite cute really to see you trying to be iss' knight in shining armor, but unfortunately it's too late. Everyone knows iss is as about as nuetral as bob and no amount of forum crying will change that fact. the moment i see a well established mining corp get targetted by iss is the moment ill say iss isn't neutral....untill then ill file this under the section of "pvpers that hate the fact iss can defend itself" knowledge is power.... guard it well
dantes inferno Caldari Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.12.09 09:28:00 - [43] Quote: SOD you could actually establish yourselves as an influence in the south if you would simply not allow people like Murukan and Magz (who was banned from the game for his behavior once already) be representatives of your alliance. and prehaps people would start to belive you are neutral the day you start to act it all the time and not when it suits you. RAM is recruiting
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.09 09:46:00 - [44] Edited by: Murukan on 09/12/2006 09:51:08 Originally by: Wylker Edited by: Wylker on 09/12/2006 04:27:05 So far I see posts from Dismemberment (who I believe are actually working on getting positive standings with ISS), Snigg (I mean seriously, you just congratulated yourselves on your 10k podmail) and Priory. Priory, maybe you should focus on not getting your players banned from eve and actually try to accomplish something. Since now you can no longer camp outpost stations with your AFK recon ships, I wonder if you're going to have to find some miners elsewhere to pirate. It is really unfortunate actually, that you have many good pvpers that are respectable people in your corp/alliance, yet you continually let your least intelligent, most immature players represent you in chat channels and on the forums. We have had several good fights with Priory, but it always seems that when certain individuals are involved everything degenerates into childish actions and idiotic smacktalk. SOD you could actually establish yourselves as an influence in the south if you would simply not allow people like Murukan and Magz (who was banned from the game for his behavior once already) be representatives of your alliance. awww the little iss doesn't like me. And ya dude we can recon camp c3 if we want to, you can't probe out cloaked deep safes so sorry buddy when we get bored you'll see us back we've just been away shooting other stuff as your constant dock syndrome the second any of us enter local gets old. And you guys are ones to talk about smack you know, i see plenty of issn idiots blabbing their heads off in local whenever they think they are some kewl ** camping 3 in with 40. And as for our influence? We establish that through our guns and not our little * whining of "oh noes don't shoot us we are nuetrals you ebil pirates!" like your pathetic alliance. The fact that every other alliance in curse docks the second we enter local i think is a testement to our influence. Ohh and boy i'll make sure to pass along to knowledge to our leaders that iss would find us more respectable if they booted magz and i, they'll prolly really take it to heart Manlove by Zaphod Jones**
gusta The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.09 10:20:00 - [45] Originally by: Wylker Edited by: Wylker on 09/12/2006 04:27:05 Priory, maybe you should focus on not getting your players banned from eve and actually try to accomplish something. Since now you can no longer camp outpost stations with your AFK recon ships, I wonder if you're going to have to find some miners elsewhere to pirate. It is really unfortunate actually, that you have many good pvpers that are respectable people in your corp/alliance, yet you continually let your least intelligent, most immature players represent you in chat channels and on the forums. We have had several good fights with Priory, but it always seems that when certain individuals are involved everything degenerates into childish actions and idiotic smacktalk. I will be sure to let your alliance mates in c3- know that next time they are talking about getting us banned for griefing in c3 local for camping your system with our recons that they can thank you for it. and there is nothing stopping us from camping you guys in c3- as muru stated recons cant be probed out yet. 2 reasons you havnt had us in c3 as much latly is the fact that when we get within 2 systems of c3 your guys just dock up and wait for us to leave, and second we have a few new corps in our alliance and we are strengthening relations with them by doing joint ops.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.09 10:21:00 - [46] Edited by: maGz on 09/12/2006 10:27:07 I was almost about to post, just to uphold my position as being one of the least intelligent, most immature member of SOD/Priory, however Muru did such an excellent job so I'll just refer to his reply and something I just thought was suiting: Bad boys bad boys Watcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you Bad boys, bad boys Watcha gonna do, watcha gonna do when they come for you So what are you going to do when we come for you? EDIT: See what you did! You made me make one of the chezzyest posts ever ____________ The Priory Killboard
Xendie Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.12.09 12:03:00 - [47] less waah-waah and more pew-pew ladies. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
Luthien Firefoot Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.12.09 16:37:00 - [48] Edited by: Luthien Firefoot on 09/12/2006 16:37:29 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it. Meaningless words. Show me some evidence. Give me an example of where ISS have INITIATED hostilities on someone who had not fired on them first. Go on, we're all waiting. There's only 3 types of people who defend ISS neutrality: 1) ISS or alts 2) People with shares / isk in ISS assets. 3) Morons. Which category do you belong to? Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin
Amy Wang	Posted - 2006.12.09 17:54:00 - [49] Edited by: Amy Wang on 09/12/2006 17:54:51 Being neutral is another thing as being stupid. Who can blame ISS for defending themselves? Seriously, people questioning ISS neutrality are usually pirates that are upset that they havent got as many easy kills as they wished and then they come and whine on the forums because their fragile egos got scratched. Btw afaik there are a lot of people who once shot ISS and were -10 which are now +5 or even +10, you normally just have to ask for a NAP and act accordingly of course, which obviously includes not pirating ISS. PS: Before you ask: Alt of someone who owns shares in ISS.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.10 01:37:00 - [50] Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/12/2006 01:37:07 Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Edited by: Luthien Firefoot on 09/12/2006 16:37:29 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it. Meaningless words. Show me some evidence. Give me an example of where ISS have INITIATED hostilities on someone who had not fired on them first. Go on, we're all waiting. There's only 3 types of people who defend ISS neutrality: 1) ISS or alts 2) People with shares / isk in ISS assets. 3) Morons. Which category do you belong to? There are only three types of people who completely avoid a sensible written question, or request for evidence to back a claim 1) The blind 2) The ignorant 3) Tards Which are you?
marcouk2 Gallente Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.12.10 03:24:00 - [51] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/12/2006 01:37:07 Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Edited by: Luthien Firefoot on 09/12/2006 16:37:29 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it. Meaningless words. Show me some evidence. Give me an example of where ISS have INITIATED hostilities on someone who had not fired on them first. Go on, we're all waiting. There's only 3 types of people who defend ISS neutrality: 1) ISS or alts 2) People with shares / isk in ISS assets. 3) Morons. Which category do you belong to? There are only three types of people who completely avoid a sensible written question, or request for evidence to back a claim 1) The blind 2) The ignorant 3) Tards Which are you? 1) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=440934 2)http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=440934 3)http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=440934
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 09:50:00 - [52] Every single time a thread about ISS comes up, it's the same groups of pilots who reply en masse with the same negative things to say about the ISS every time, using the tactic that if they throw enough ****, maybe some of it will stick. Forlani, you are not neutral to ISS, your corp has been on our kill on sight list for quite some time and your CEO knows why, because your corp has actively engaged ISS in the past and were placed on that list. I'm surprised you didn't know. I'd link you to our killboard showing Derek, Halock, Capt Rex, Mr John22ta, Namelesz, Apocalypsze and Phantom DarkMagic ganking a White Nova Corp (ISS) Blackbird (which was the first appearance of your corp on our killboard) but the killboard requires you to log in. Since that kill, all your corp have done is lose ships to us. If you want to be removed from the kill on sight list, contact one of the ISS Management team to discuss it. It's not like you have to be on it permanantly for making one mistake. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Shivaja Caldari CHON THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.12.10 13:03:00 - [53] ISS is not neutral and never was, if u guys cant see that or refuse see that from theyr past actions and presentations then i pity u your blind or just plain stupid period . And ISS please spare us your faulty propaganda about neutrality no one belive you apart form some small pigeons. Shivaja Queen of Outer Ring CHON ceo THE R0NIN Kill Board
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 13:29:00 - [54] Originally by: Shivaja ISS is not neutral and never was, if u guys cant see that or refuse see that from theyr past actions and presentations then i pity u your blind or just plain stupid period . And ISS please spare us your faulty propaganda about neutrality no one belive you apart form some small pigeons. Thanks for your input, I shall always wear it. Always run into a load of people with different definitions of 'neutral' so ... well that's always been a minefield. How about apolitical. Is that a better way to describe it?
gusta The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 13:50:00 - [55] Edited by: gusta on 10/12/2006 13:51:20 Originally by: Wylker Edited by: Wylker on 09/12/2006 04:27:05 Since now you can no longer camp outpost stations with your AFK recon ships, I wonder if you're going to have to find some miners elsewhere to pirate. Oh Wylker honey we're back and already spreading The Priory love
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 14:05:00 - [56] Originally by: Wylker CRY CRY CRY I usually dont post on this smackforum alot, but you certainly deserve it .. First and for all, you may start petitioning us again for griefing because we dont let you mine in c3- What do you expect us to accomplish exactly? We just accomplished out mission, you crying. Second, we are already a "major influence" where we life, and thats fine enough. We dont wanne play the station pingpong game, we just wanne irritate, kill and loot you and whatevermore flys in front of my targeting computer. And you cant deny this, we havnt seen any ISS in weeks since we spanked you last time. Last, magz and murukan are fine people, its not that because they got banned from the game once that they belong in a marginalious class in real life. Shut up about it or should we pull up your mission plan again, "Get every member of priory permabanned from the game so we can mine in love and peace"? Give me 5 minutes, i'm sure someone on the internet is selling clues. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
Cloudis	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:14:00 - [57] Sorry, did not know Gaita was an alt of our CEO :( Gaita has solved this issue with Praxis.
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.12.10 19:59:00 - [58] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it. Meaningless words. Show me some evidence. Give me an example of where ISS have INITIATED hostilities on someone who had not fired on them first. Go on, we're all waiting. There have been many instances where the only logical explanation for a pirate gang movement is that ISS members were leaking movements of scouts to them. It got to the point one week where if you jumped into a system with iss in it, you might as well spamm XXXXX chat with your fleet numbers. Of course, this is up North, not where most of iss operates it seems. This was a contributing factor in ISS getting set hostile to many an alliance.
Forlani Dismemberment	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:37:00 - [59] Originally by: Nyphur snip.. Forlani, you are not neutral to ISS, your corp has been on our kill on sight list for quite some time and your CEO knows why, because your corp has actively engaged ISS in the past and were placed on that list. I'm surprised you didn't know. I'd link you to our killboard showing Derek, Halock, Capt Rex, Mr John22ta, Namelesz, Apocalypsze and Phantom DarkMagic ganking a White Nova Corp (ISS) Blackbird (which was the first appearance of your corp on our killboard) but the killboard requires you to log in. Since that kill, all your corp have done is lose ships to us. If you want to be removed from the kill on sight list, contact one of the ISS Management team to discuss it. It's not like you have to be on it permanantly for making one mistake. While this issue has now been sorted, Id like to point out the ISS charter specificly states you have to continuiously attack ISS pilots to become KOS. We killed one. Now unless you have decided to invent a new form of english where continously now means once, you are wrong. Unlike you i DO know why we were put on the KOS list. Maybe you should speak to your mangement team before speaking up again.
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:24:00 - [60] Originally by: Forlani Originally by: Nyphur snip.. Forlani, you are not neutral to ISS, your corp has been on our kill on sight list for quite some time and your CEO knows why, because your corp has actively engaged ISS in the past and were placed on that list. I'm surprised you didn't know. I'd link you to our killboard showing Derek, Halock, Capt Rex, Mr John22ta, Namelesz, Apocalypsze and Phantom DarkMagic ganking a White Nova Corp (ISS) Blackbird (which was the first appearance of your corp on our killboard) but the killboard requires you to log in. Since that kill, all your corp have done is lose ships to us. If you want to be removed from the kill on sight list, contact one of the ISS Management team to discuss it. It's not like you have to be on it permanantly for making one mistake. While this issue has now been sorted, Id like to point out the ISS charter specificly states you have to continuiously attack ISS pilots to become KOS. We killed one. That is true and I'll see that we take that into consideration in the future. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.

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