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Forlani
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.07 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: Forlani on 07/12/2006 04:10:43
For the last two weeks my corp has been constantly harrased by ISS pilots. We have consistantly been targeted by ISS pilots who we have not aggressed. We have no war with them, and untill now had no reason to shoot them. This is now changing. The Praxis Initiative have been roaming arround in curse and killing my corp members. They have been holding daily bubble camps with 20 members in 36N during this time.
We have made contact with ISS reps who have done nothing. From now on all members of my corp shall agress ISS pilots on sight. We can not and will not continue to suffer losses to a suposedly nutral to all alliance.
We are a small corp, we are merc's. We fight with honor, when we say we will not attack we mean it. But if we say we will attack, be ready to collect insurance on your ship. Though we might lose ships, and clones. Rest assured we will be taking the flaming wreckage of many scum with us. Injustice such as this can not be allowed.
ISS you are dead to me.
We are more than willing to fight with any other corp or alliance who have also been stung by the injustice dished out by ISS in the south. Please contact myself or Namelesz so we can discuss joining forces.
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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.07 04:30:00 -
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ISS have not been nuetral since EC
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Calisto Cody
Minmatar
The Black Swan Society
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Posted - 2006.12.07 04:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Murukan
ISS have not been nuetral since EC
truth
Grimkill > He said . . .. I don't know why you wear a bra; you've got nothing to put in it. <br>She said .. . You wear pants don't you?
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insanebe
Caldari
soni Corp
Imperium Sonorumance
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Posted - 2006.12.07 06:09:00 -
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lol another pirate corp pretending to be mercs :P
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Drakkana Staat
Gallente
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.07 07:56:00 -
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Who are these Praxis fellows anyway?
What are they?
Be they warriors?
Or cuddly bears?
REMEMBER THE BEAR?!
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.07 09:51:00 -
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It breaks my heart to see pirates cry about getting killed...
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Hellown
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:52:00 -
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ahahhahaha another one! :)
As a former member of ISS and the Praxis Initiative, i can tell you, if you are getting agressed by these guys, then you are indead negative to the ISS alliance, for what ever reason that maybe (most likely you shot the hell out of them at some point).
As for not being neutral, you fly someone who isnt negative through a prax gatecamp (who isnt an obvious alt spy) i assure you, they will allow you to make your way peacefully.
Anyways, good luck with killing them, looks like they sure have their **** together these days :D.
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Quinn Oron
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.07 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Forlani
Edited by: Forlani on 07/12/2006 04:10:43
We have consistantly been targeted by ISS pilots who we have not aggressed.
First off, I will say that I cannot and will not speak for the Praxis Navy, or the ISS alliance.
However, I have to inform you that from an outside perspective and by looking at our killboards, you and your corporation became a threat to ISS operations and assets when you fired on and destroyed a White Nova pilot's Blackbird cruiser (including the capsule). White Nova Industries is a member corporation of the Interstellar Starbase Syndicate. This negates your claims that we are the initial aggressors, as this event occured well outside of your timeframe of two weeks since we started 'constantly harrassing' you.
If you want to pursue diplomatic relations with ISS, continue your inquiries with ISS Management. If you want to arrange a cease fire with Praxis, I can only suggest you contact one of our Naval Officers who in turn will lead you to the right people.
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Cloudis
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Posted - 2006.12.07 14:15:00 -
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Despite us telling him not to post this, we would like to persue displomatic discussions if we can we a hold of someone that would be great.
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Namelesz
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.07 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Namelesz on 07/12/2006 15:33:40
I am one of the diplomatic voices of my corp.
We do not have previous encounters with ISS in a negative way, in fact this corp was birthed from allies of ISS but we did not seek initial positive standings with them as it didnt seem necessary with ISS claiming to not shoot neutrals. There was one incident where one tech1 class cruiser vessel flew into our gang as we were traversing the deadly HED pipe, his ship unfortunately did not seem to make it thru the encounter as most who travel alone that way will find their fate very similar. According the ISS' charter, I wouldnt believe this one oversight would have caused our whole corp a -10 standing. In fact I know it doesnt as I still have access and frequently visit ISS outposts which are free to the public.
Praxis not only hold regular gate camps which tend to eat up many neutral (not negative) pilots as they they to pass thru. But the main incident which is quite unnerving as it proves their intentions was when a Praxis ganksquad came into our home system with a recon class cruiser hiding in cloak and trapping 2 of our pilots who were running tests in the asteroid fields.
I believe the whole of ISS is not a tyrannical entity, but they have a rouge corp among them which I have seen others account for. Count T was contacted many days ago in an attempt to clear this up but I do not believe he responded. We are not pirates, not professionally. We live in 0.0 space and do not mind a little pew pew action, or alot. But when a well established and well-known for helping the public alliance such as ISS allows 1 or 2 corps in their ranks to break their charter, I fear many of their investors have something to worry about. I hope that is not the case and wish to see ISS flourish in the future, just take care of your in-house problem child.
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Stins
Gallente
ISS Logistics
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.07 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Stins on 07/12/2006 16:12:51
Edited by: Stins on 07/12/2006 16:11:33
Originally by: Namelesz
Edited by: Namelesz on 07/12/2006 15:33:40
I am one of the diplomatic voices of my corp.
We do not have previous encounters with ISS in a negative way, in fact this corp was birthed from allies of ISS but we did not seek initial positive standings with them as it didnt seem necessary with ISS claiming to not shoot neutrals. There was one incident where one tech1 class cruiser vessel flew into our gang as we were traversing the deadly HED pipe, his ship unfortunately did not seem to make it thru the encounter as most who travel alone that way will find their fate very similar. According the ISS' charter, I wouldnt believe this one oversight would have caused our whole corp a -10 standing. In fact I know it doesnt as I still have access and frequently visit ISS outposts which are free to the public.
Praxis not only hold regular gate camps which tend to eat up many neutral (not negative) pilots as they they to pass thru. But the main incident which is quite unnerving as it proves their intentions was when a Praxis ganksquad came into our home system with a recon class cruiser hiding in cloak and trapping 2 of our pilots who were running tests in the asteroid fields.
I believe the whole of ISS is not a tyrannical entity, but they have a rouge corp among them which I have seen others account for. Count T was contacted many days ago in an attempt to clear this up but I do not believe he responded. We are not pirates, not professionally. We live in 0.0 space and do not mind a little pew pew action, or alot. But when a well established and well-known for helping the public alliance such as ISS allows 1 or 2 corps in their ranks to break their charter, I fear many of their investors have something to worry about. I hope that is not the case and wish to see ISS flourish in the future, just take care of your in-house problem child.
Like most other alliance leaders, count tasessine gets a nice pile of eve-mails on a daily base. Thats why we have a ISS management team to solve issues like this. Please contact a person listedhere and I'm sure we could solve this issue together.
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Prefect Six
Gallente
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.07 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Prefect Six on 07/12/2006 16:14:26
It's unfortunate that you guys wasted all this good forum space. I have a killmail that's on ISS's private killboard that shows Namelesz and a group of his fellow pirates, er corpmates destroying an ISS Blackbird. There are no kills for or against Dismemberment prior to that kill. That is why we shoot you, per our charter. You shot first, which was pretty stupid. I'm sorry if you don't like carebears who have teeth and fight back against those who have aggressed thier fellow Alliance mates.
However, that doesn't mean you can't arrange a NAP with ISS Management, which we will adhere to fully and humbly. The less targets we have to shoot, the better.
Anyways, I have no real sympathy for you. I don't understand why you're so upset Forlani. Is it because we blew up your Harpy or because we blew up your logoffski pod?
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Forlani
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.07 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Prefect Six
Edited by: Prefect Six on 07/12/2006 16:14:26
It's unfortunate that you guys wasted all this good forum space. I have a killmail that's on ISS's private killboard that shows Namelesz and a group of his fellow pirates, er corpmates destroying an ISS Blackbird. There are no kills for or against Dismemberment prior to that kill. That is why we shoot you, per our charter. You shot first, which was pretty stupid. I'm sorry if you don't like carebears who have teeth and fight back against those who have aggressed thier fellow Alliance mates.
However, that doesn't mean you can't arrange a NAP with ISS Management, which we will adhere to fully and humbly. The less targets we have to shoot, the better.
Anyways, I have no real sympathy for you. I don't understand why you're so upset Forlani. Is it because we blew up your Harpy or because we blew up your logoffski pod?
You havent seen me upset, I expect to die everyday in eve, i do not fear it. And what logoffski? Im pettioning the loss of my ship. I was locked up for 5 minutes before i quit. Did you think it strange that i would just sit at the gate for 5 minutes not doing anything when i knew your gank squad were in system? Or are you just that full of yourselves to think you "got" me?
This statement that we are negative to ISS reeks of the stuff i clean from between my toes. I know for a fact this is not the case. I have had many contacts with ISS pilots within the last 2 weeks not from the Praxis Inititive who have greeted me with nothing but friendly and positive intentions. We are able to dock at your stations. Corps with negative standings can not do these things. Spread your lies elsewhere as you will find no gullible simpletons here who believe them.
One kill of a T1 cruiser does not a standings change make according to the ISS charter. Maybe you should read it sometime as you are a member, and seem to have taken it upon yourselves without consulting ISS mangement to become a force of reprisals. Or were you ordered to?
I wonder who ordered you guys to bubble camp a NPC sovereignty system? I wonder who ordered you guys to attack all that pass who do not have positive standings, as that is an extreamly large policy shift by ISS. I dont think anyone ordered you to, i think you guys just decided to go shoot somethings, which would be fine IF you werent a part of ISS. You hide behind an alliance who are openly neutral to all who are not at war with them.
You are scum
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.12.07 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Butter Dog on 07/12/2006 17:54:25
CONCORD officials have informed me that your corporation did indeed agress ISS first, with 7 of your pilots, namely Darek, Halock, Capt Rex, Mr John22ta, Namelesz, Apocalypsze, and Phantom DrakMargic destroying an ISS Blackbird on 6/10/06 in the U-QVWD system.
Now they are shooting you back, and you come weeping on GalNet?
This is nothing short of pathetic. Grow up. You think you can destroy their traffic, and for them to sit there silently and just take it?
Sorry to inform you that no-one takes kindly to having their ships blown up, and you got the standings you deserved.
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Forlani
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.07 17:57:00 -
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ISS charter states
- If an entity is kill-on-sight (KOS) to ISS it may be denied docking. An entity may become KOS if it repeatedly attacks ISS ships.
Repeatedly ( Definition as published in dictionary.com
More than once; again and again.
Explain to me as i seem to be too stupid to understand such a simple concept how once equals repeatedly?
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Prefect Six
Gallente
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.07 18:03:00 -
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Oh, well this is good news! It seems you must be thinking of someone else, because in fact we scanned and killed you somewhere in space, between gates, (how you got to such a random location in space I'll never know) and not at a gate (of course, before you logoffskied)! I'm so happy this was a misunderstanding and both organizations can go back to business as usual.
Also, I'd like to thank you for bringing up your docking rights. I have put in a request to have those immidiately revoked.
Safe travels!
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Namelesz
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.07 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Edited by: Butter Dog on 07/12/2006 17:50:26
CONCORD officials have informed me that your corporation did indeed agress ISS first, destroying a Blackbird on 6/10/06 in the U-QVWD system.
Now they are shooting you back, and you come weeping on GalNet?
This is nothing short of pathetic.
read my post more carefully, I fully admitted to shooting at one t1 cruiser which I explained was an oversight and was in one the more notorious 0.0 corridors on the map. and according to the ISS charter, that is not grounds for -10 standing and being shot and as well as hunted by any ISS pilots. Repeatedly being shot at is what gets the negative standing, which is something we did not do. In fact, prior to any of these incidents I was chased away from KDF for some reason on a market run there by a few t2 cruisers while in my lowly frig. That was before the blackbird was shot. Of course no killmail was made cause I got away so I cannot prove it, you'll just to take my word.
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Namelesz
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.07 18:15:00 -
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all members of Dismemberment, please refrain from more contact within this GalNet correspondance. I would rather clear this up the proper way via in-game communications with proper ISS diplomats and not forum monkeys as this just causes confusion and flaming. (as seen above)
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Val Oman
Occam's Razor Combine
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.07 18:22:00 -
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Quote:
read my post more carefully, I fully admitted to shooting at one t1 cruiser which I explained was an oversight and was in one the more notorious 0.0 corridors on the map.
Was an attempt made to reimburse the ISS pilot since it was found to be an oversight? or did you just decide it was one of your freebie ISS kills for the month that you believe the ISS charter grants you?
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Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2006.12.07 20:04:00 -
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I suggest contacting ISS, we had a pilot in a blood fury shoot down one of their ships and the same thing happend, we were set to negitive standings. After contacting and repaying the dammage we are now NAPed with ISS and share friendly and respectfull relations.
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Dr Syhf
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Posted - 2006.12.07 22:20:00 -
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Dismemberment members, namely Forlani, please do not post here, as we said not to in the first place. We want to make peace not war, and you're not fueling it / not helping.
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dantes inferno
Caldari
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.12.07 23:13:00 -
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ISS are only neutral when it suits them. Their are countles upon countles examples of their non neutrality.
RAM is recruiting |
Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.12.08 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: dantes inferno
ISS are only neutral when it suits them. Their are countles upon countles examples of their non neutrality.
Give me just 3, then.
I'm waiting...
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Hudsonn
Minmatar
FireTech
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 00:39:00 -
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i dont like 'em :0
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Horatio Nately
Caldari
808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.08 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: dantes inferno
ISS are only neutral when it suits them. Their are countles upon countles examples of their non neutrality.
qft. time and time again
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Operations Officer, 808 Enterprises
Yes Eight Oh Eight, Not Bee Oh Bee
My Opinions pretty much represent my corp.
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Lightof God
Caldari
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.12.08 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: dantes inferno
ISS are only neutral when it suits them. Their are countles upon countles examples of their non neutrality.
Give me just 3, then.
I'm waiting...
As i am only privy to the iss actions on the forums i shall do my best and only come up with two and those are the ones on everyones mind.
The EC-P8R incident.
The Ushara Kahn (spelling?) outpost intervention.
I leave it you the rest of you to fill in the final blank
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Tar Kovsky
Minmatar
Khumatari Holdings
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lightof God
The Ushara Kahn (spelling?) outpost intervention.
As was often stated at the time, most of the corporations and alliances involved in the siege of 9uy4-h were already hostile to ISS long before the siege started. I am 100% certain that -- if they had arranged a NAP with ISS and made an effort to refrain from attacking its logistics -- they could successfully have kept ISS from getting involved.
The idea that being neutral means standing by idly while your declared enemies threaten your future is ridiculous.
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Gaita
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:50:00 -
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A NAP is not necessary. The statement has been made...ISS you are not a neutral alliance, and if you used to be, well....not anymore.
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insanebe
Caldari
soni Corp
Imperium Sonorumance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lightof God
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: dantes inferno
ISS are only neutral when it suits them. Their are countles upon countles examples of their non neutrality.
Give me just 3, then.
I'm waiting...
As i am only privy to the iss actions on the forums i shall do my best and only come up with two and those are the ones on everyones mind.
The EC-P8R incident.
The Ushara Kahn (spelling?) outpost intervention.
I leave it you the rest of you to fill in the final blank
if trust wanted the station im pretty sure they could take it ...but they probably own more shares in it than anyone else anyway so why bother
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dantes inferno
Caldari
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.12.08 08:26:00 -
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Quote:
Give me just 3, then.
I'm waiting...
1. the ec incident
2. the uk incident
3. the intel dropping your corps like to do (if you think a new charter and kicking corps will instently restore faith your deluded)
4. running of outposts for alliances, meaning you will be "taking" their side in that are..which is not neutral
5. the random attacks and aiding of alliances (see 3)
there is 5. im sure people who encounter iss more often can think of more.
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