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Forlani
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.07 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: Forlani on 07/12/2006 04:10:43
For the last two weeks my corp has been constantly harrased by ISS pilots. We have consistantly been targeted by ISS pilots who we have not aggressed. We have no war with them, and untill now had no reason to shoot them. This is now changing. The Praxis Initiative have been roaming arround in curse and killing my corp members. They have been holding daily bubble camps with 20 members in 36N during this time.
We have made contact with ISS reps who have done nothing. From now on all members of my corp shall agress ISS pilots on sight. We can not and will not continue to suffer losses to a suposedly nutral to all alliance.
We are a small corp, we are merc's. We fight with honor, when we say we will not attack we mean it. But if we say we will attack, be ready to collect insurance on your ship. Though we might lose ships, and clones. Rest assured we will be taking the flaming wreckage of many scum with us. Injustice such as this can not be allowed.
ISS you are dead to me.
We are more than willing to fight with any other corp or alliance who have also been stung by the injustice dished out by ISS in the south. Please contact myself or Namelesz so we can discuss joining forces.
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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.07 04:30:00 -
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ISS have not been nuetral since EC
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Calisto Cody
Minmatar
The Black Swan Society
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Posted - 2006.12.07 04:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Murukan
ISS have not been nuetral since EC
truth
Grimkill > He said . . .. I don't know why you wear a bra; you've got nothing to put in it. <br>She said .. . You wear pants don't you?
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insanebe
Caldari
soni Corp
Imperium Sonorumance
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Posted - 2006.12.07 06:09:00 -
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lol another pirate corp pretending to be mercs :P
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Drakkana Staat
Gallente
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.07 07:56:00 -
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Who are these Praxis fellows anyway?
What are they?
Be they warriors?
Or cuddly bears?
REMEMBER THE BEAR?!
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.07 09:51:00 -
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It breaks my heart to see pirates cry about getting killed...
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Hellown
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:52:00 -
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ahahhahaha another one! :)
As a former member of ISS and the Praxis Initiative, i can tell you, if you are getting agressed by these guys, then you are indead negative to the ISS alliance, for what ever reason that maybe (most likely you shot the hell out of them at some point).
As for not being neutral, you fly someone who isnt negative through a prax gatecamp (who isnt an obvious alt spy) i assure you, they will allow you to make your way peacefully.
Anyways, good luck with killing them, looks like they sure have their **** together these days :D.
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Quinn Oron
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.07 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Forlani
Edited by: Forlani on 07/12/2006 04:10:43
We have consistantly been targeted by ISS pilots who we have not aggressed.
First off, I will say that I cannot and will not speak for the Praxis Navy, or the ISS alliance.
However, I have to inform you that from an outside perspective and by looking at our killboards, you and your corporation became a threat to ISS operations and assets when you fired on and destroyed a White Nova pilot's Blackbird cruiser (including the capsule). White Nova Industries is a member corporation of the Interstellar Starbase Syndicate. This negates your claims that we are the initial aggressors, as this event occured well outside of your timeframe of two weeks since we started 'constantly harrassing' you.
If you want to pursue diplomatic relations with ISS, continue your inquiries with ISS Management. If you want to arrange a cease fire with Praxis, I can only suggest you contact one of our Naval Officers who in turn will lead you to the right people.
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Cloudis
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Posted - 2006.12.07 14:15:00 -
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Despite us telling him not to post this, we would like to persue displomatic discussions if we can we a hold of someone that would be great.
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Namelesz
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.07 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Namelesz on 07/12/2006 15:33:40
I am one of the diplomatic voices of my corp.
We do not have previous encounters with ISS in a negative way, in fact this corp was birthed from allies of ISS but we did not seek initial positive standings with them as it didnt seem necessary with ISS claiming to not shoot neutrals. There was one incident where one tech1 class cruiser vessel flew into our gang as we were traversing the deadly HED pipe, his ship unfortunately did not seem to make it thru the encounter as most who travel alone that way will find their fate very similar. According the ISS' charter, I wouldnt believe this one oversight would have caused our whole corp a -10 standing. In fact I know it doesnt as I still have access and frequently visit ISS outposts which are free to the public.
Praxis not only hold regular gate camps which tend to eat up many neutral (not negative) pilots as they they to pass thru. But the main incident which is quite unnerving as it proves their intentions was when a Praxis ganksquad came into our home system with a recon class cruiser hiding in cloak and trapping 2 of our pilots who were running tests in the asteroid fields.
I believe the whole of ISS is not a tyrannical entity, but they have a rouge corp among them which I have seen others account for. Count T was contacted many days ago in an attempt to clear this up but I do not believe he responded. We are not pirates, not professionally. We live in 0.0 space and do not mind a little pew pew action, or alot. But when a well established and well-known for helping the public alliance such as ISS allows 1 or 2 corps in their ranks to break their charter, I fear many of their investors have something to worry about. I hope that is not the case and wish to see ISS flourish in the future, just take care of your in-house problem child.
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Stins
Gallente
ISS Logistics
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.07 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Stins on 07/12/2006 16:12:51
Edited by: Stins on 07/12/2006 16:11:33
Originally by: Namelesz
Edited by: Namelesz on 07/12/2006 15:33:40
I am one of the diplomatic voices of my corp.
We do not have previous encounters with ISS in a negative way, in fact this corp was birthed from allies of ISS but we did not seek initial positive standings with them as it didnt seem necessary with ISS claiming to not shoot neutrals. There was one incident where one tech1 class cruiser vessel flew into our gang as we were traversing the deadly HED pipe, his ship unfortunately did not seem to make it thru the encounter as most who travel alone that way will find their fate very similar. According the ISS' charter, I wouldnt believe this one oversight would have caused our whole corp a -10 standing. In fact I know it doesnt as I still have access and frequently visit ISS outposts which are free to the public.
Praxis not only hold regular gate camps which tend to eat up many neutral (not negative) pilots as they they to pass thru. But the main incident which is quite unnerving as it proves their intentions was when a Praxis ganksquad came into our home system with a recon class cruiser hiding in cloak and trapping 2 of our pilots who were running tests in the asteroid fields.
I believe the whole of ISS is not a tyrannical entity, but they have a rouge corp among them which I have seen others account for. Count T was contacted many days ago in an attempt to clear this up but I do not believe he responded. We are not pirates, not professionally. We live in 0.0 space and do not mind a little pew pew action, or alot. But when a well established and well-known for helping the public alliance such as ISS allows 1 or 2 corps in their ranks to break their charter, I fear many of their investors have something to worry about. I hope that is not the case and wish to see ISS flourish in the future, just take care of your in-house problem child.
Like most other alliance leaders, count tasessine gets a nice pile of eve-mails on a daily base. Thats why we have a ISS management team to solve issues like this. Please contact a person listedhere and I'm sure we could solve this issue together.
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Prefect Six
Gallente
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.07 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Prefect Six on 07/12/2006 16:14:26
It's unfortunate that you guys wasted all this good forum space. I have a killmail that's on ISS's private killboard that shows Namelesz and a group of his fellow pirates, er corpmates destroying an ISS Blackbird. There are no kills for or against Dismemberment prior to that kill. That is why we shoot you, per our charter. You shot first, which was pretty stupid. I'm sorry if you don't like carebears who have teeth and fight back against those who have aggressed thier fellow Alliance mates.
However, that doesn't mean you can't arrange a NAP with ISS Management, which we will adhere to fully and humbly. The less targets we have to shoot, the better.
Anyways, I have no real sympathy for you. I don't understand why you're so upset Forlani. Is it because we blew up your Harpy or because we blew up your logoffski pod?
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Forlani
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.07 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Prefect Six
Edited by: Prefect Six on 07/12/2006 16:14:26
It's unfortunate that you guys wasted all this good forum space. I have a killmail that's on ISS's private killboard that shows Namelesz and a group of his fellow pirates, er corpmates destroying an ISS Blackbird. There are no kills for or against Dismemberment prior to that kill. That is why we shoot you, per our charter. You shot first, which was pretty stupid. I'm sorry if you don't like carebears who have teeth and fight back against those who have aggressed thier fellow Alliance mates.
However, that doesn't mean you can't arrange a NAP with ISS Management, which we will adhere to fully and humbly. The less targets we have to shoot, the better.
Anyways, I have no real sympathy for you. I don't understand why you're so upset Forlani. Is it because we blew up your Harpy or because we blew up your logoffski pod?
You havent seen me upset, I expect to die everyday in eve, i do not fear it. And what logoffski? Im pettioning the loss of my ship. I was locked up for 5 minutes before i quit. Did you think it strange that i would just sit at the gate for 5 minutes not doing anything when i knew your gank squad were in system? Or are you just that full of yourselves to think you "got" me?
This statement that we are negative to ISS reeks of the stuff i clean from between my toes. I know for a fact this is not the case. I have had many contacts with ISS pilots within the last 2 weeks not from the Praxis Inititive who have greeted me with nothing but friendly and positive intentions. We are able to dock at your stations. Corps with negative standings can not do these things. Spread your lies elsewhere as you will find no gullible simpletons here who believe them.
One kill of a T1 cruiser does not a standings change make according to the ISS charter. Maybe you should read it sometime as you are a member, and seem to have taken it upon yourselves without consulting ISS mangement to become a force of reprisals. Or were you ordered to?
I wonder who ordered you guys to bubble camp a NPC sovereignty system? I wonder who ordered you guys to attack all that pass who do not have positive standings, as that is an extreamly large policy shift by ISS. I dont think anyone ordered you to, i think you guys just decided to go shoot somethings, which would be fine IF you werent a part of ISS. You hide behind an alliance who are openly neutral to all who are not at war with them.
You are scum
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.12.07 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Butter Dog on 07/12/2006 17:54:25
CONCORD officials have informed me that your corporation did indeed agress ISS first, with 7 of your pilots, namely Darek, Halock, Capt Rex, Mr John22ta, Namelesz, Apocalypsze, and Phantom DrakMargic destroying an ISS Blackbird on 6/10/06 in the U-QVWD system.
Now they are shooting you back, and you come weeping on GalNet?
This is nothing short of pathetic. Grow up. You think you can destroy their traffic, and for them to sit there silently and just take it?
Sorry to inform you that no-one takes kindly to having their ships blown up, and you got the standings you deserved.
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Forlani
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.07 17:57:00 -
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ISS charter states
- If an entity is kill-on-sight (KOS) to ISS it may be denied docking. An entity may become KOS if it repeatedly attacks ISS ships.
Repeatedly ( Definition as published in dictionary.com
More than once; again and again.
Explain to me as i seem to be too stupid to understand such a simple concept how once equals repeatedly?
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Prefect Six
Gallente
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.07 18:03:00 -
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Oh, well this is good news! It seems you must be thinking of someone else, because in fact we scanned and killed you somewhere in space, between gates, (how you got to such a random location in space I'll never know) and not at a gate (of course, before you logoffskied)! I'm so happy this was a misunderstanding and both organizations can go back to business as usual.
Also, I'd like to thank you for bringing up your docking rights. I have put in a request to have those immidiately revoked.
Safe travels!
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Namelesz
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.07 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Edited by: Butter Dog on 07/12/2006 17:50:26
CONCORD officials have informed me that your corporation did indeed agress ISS first, destroying a Blackbird on 6/10/06 in the U-QVWD system.
Now they are shooting you back, and you come weeping on GalNet?
This is nothing short of pathetic.
read my post more carefully, I fully admitted to shooting at one t1 cruiser which I explained was an oversight and was in one the more notorious 0.0 corridors on the map. and according to the ISS charter, that is not grounds for -10 standing and being shot and as well as hunted by any ISS pilots. Repeatedly being shot at is what gets the negative standing, which is something we did not do. In fact, prior to any of these incidents I was chased away from KDF for some reason on a market run there by a few t2 cruisers while in my lowly frig. That was before the blackbird was shot. Of course no killmail was made cause I got away so I cannot prove it, you'll just to take my word.
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Namelesz
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.07 18:15:00 -
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all members of Dismemberment, please refrain from more contact within this GalNet correspondance. I would rather clear this up the proper way via in-game communications with proper ISS diplomats and not forum monkeys as this just causes confusion and flaming. (as seen above)
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Val Oman
Occam's Razor Combine
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.07 18:22:00 -
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Quote:
read my post more carefully, I fully admitted to shooting at one t1 cruiser which I explained was an oversight and was in one the more notorious 0.0 corridors on the map.
Was an attempt made to reimburse the ISS pilot since it was found to be an oversight? or did you just decide it was one of your freebie ISS kills for the month that you believe the ISS charter grants you?
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Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2006.12.07 20:04:00 -
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I suggest contacting ISS, we had a pilot in a blood fury shoot down one of their ships and the same thing happend, we were set to negitive standings. After contacting and repaying the dammage we are now NAPed with ISS and share friendly and respectfull relations.
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Dr Syhf
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Posted - 2006.12.07 22:20:00 -
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Dismemberment members, namely Forlani, please do not post here, as we said not to in the first place. We want to make peace not war, and you're not fueling it / not helping.
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dantes inferno
Caldari
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.12.07 23:13:00 -
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ISS are only neutral when it suits them. Their are countles upon countles examples of their non neutrality.
RAM is recruiting |
Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.12.08 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: dantes inferno
ISS are only neutral when it suits them. Their are countles upon countles examples of their non neutrality.
Give me just 3, then.
I'm waiting...
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Hudsonn
Minmatar
FireTech
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 00:39:00 -
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i dont like 'em :0
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Horatio Nately
Caldari
808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.08 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: dantes inferno
ISS are only neutral when it suits them. Their are countles upon countles examples of their non neutrality.
qft. time and time again
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Operations Officer, 808 Enterprises
Yes Eight Oh Eight, Not Bee Oh Bee
My Opinions pretty much represent my corp.
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Lightof God
Caldari
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.12.08 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: dantes inferno
ISS are only neutral when it suits them. Their are countles upon countles examples of their non neutrality.
Give me just 3, then.
I'm waiting...
As i am only privy to the iss actions on the forums i shall do my best and only come up with two and those are the ones on everyones mind.
The EC-P8R incident.
The Ushara Kahn (spelling?) outpost intervention.
I leave it you the rest of you to fill in the final blank
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Tar Kovsky
Minmatar
Khumatari Holdings
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lightof God
The Ushara Kahn (spelling?) outpost intervention.
As was often stated at the time, most of the corporations and alliances involved in the siege of 9uy4-h were already hostile to ISS long before the siege started. I am 100% certain that -- if they had arranged a NAP with ISS and made an effort to refrain from attacking its logistics -- they could successfully have kept ISS from getting involved.
The idea that being neutral means standing by idly while your declared enemies threaten your future is ridiculous.
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Gaita
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:50:00 -
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A NAP is not necessary. The statement has been made...ISS you are not a neutral alliance, and if you used to be, well....not anymore.
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insanebe
Caldari
soni Corp
Imperium Sonorumance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lightof God
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: dantes inferno
ISS are only neutral when it suits them. Their are countles upon countles examples of their non neutrality.
Give me just 3, then.
I'm waiting...
As i am only privy to the iss actions on the forums i shall do my best and only come up with two and those are the ones on everyones mind.
The EC-P8R incident.
The Ushara Kahn (spelling?) outpost intervention.
I leave it you the rest of you to fill in the final blank
if trust wanted the station im pretty sure they could take it ...but they probably own more shares in it than anyone else anyway so why bother
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dantes inferno
Caldari
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.12.08 08:26:00 -
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Quote:
Give me just 3, then.
I'm waiting...
1. the ec incident
2. the uk incident
3. the intel dropping your corps like to do (if you think a new charter and kicking corps will instently restore faith your deluded)
4. running of outposts for alliances, meaning you will be "taking" their side in that are..which is not neutral
5. the random attacks and aiding of alliances (see 3)
there is 5. im sure people who encounter iss more often can think of more.
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Verone
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 08:59:00 -
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ISS aren't a neutral alliance, and should never be considered one.
There is no such thing as a "Neutral Alliance".
ISS simply use this term to reduce the amount of corporations who shoot at their stations and members.
They fire on who they want and make up excuses if it's questioned.
That, is not neutrality.
VETO FOR HIRE
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:28:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Verone
ISS aren't a neutral alliance, and should never be considered one.
There is no such thing as a "Neutral Alliance".
ISS simply use this term to reduce the amount of corporations who shoot at their stations and members.
They fire on who they want and make up excuses if it's questioned.
That, is not neutrality.
ISS clearly do NOT fire on whoever they wish, and you know this.
They fire on those who have ALREADY initiated hostilities toward them. I'm sorry that you're still a little bitter about failing to take the U'K outpost, but you need to get over it and cease spreading obvious lies such as the one above.
If you feel you have evidence to support your claim they 'shoot who they like' (ie not at people who have ALREADY been hostile toward them), then present it here.
Otherwise, we can all assume you accept what you have said is a lie.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:58:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Verone
ISS aren't a neutral alliance, and should never be considered one.
There is no such thing as a "Neutral Alliance".
ISS simply use this term to reduce the amount of corporations who shoot at their stations and members.
They fire on who they want and make up excuses if it's questioned.
That, is not neutrality.
ISS clearly do NOT fire on whoever they wish, and you know this.
They fire on those who have ALREADY initiated hostilities toward them. I'm sorry that you're still a little bitter about failing to take the U'K outpost, but you need to get over it and cease spreading obvious lies such as the one above.
If you feel you have evidence to support your claim they 'shoot who they like' (ie not at people who have ALREADY been hostile toward them), then present it here.
Otherwise, we can all assume you accept what you have said is a lie.
ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it.
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.12.08 14:03:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Verone
ISS aren't a neutral alliance, and should never be considered one.
There is no such thing as a "Neutral Alliance".
ISS simply use this term to reduce the amount of corporations who shoot at their stations and members.
They fire on who they want and make up excuses if it's questioned.
That, is not neutrality.
ISS clearly do NOT fire on whoever they wish, and you know this.
They fire on those who have ALREADY initiated hostilities toward them. I'm sorry that you're still a little bitter about failing to take the U'K outpost, but you need to get over it and cease spreading obvious lies such as the one above.
If you feel you have evidence to support your claim they 'shoot who they like' (ie not at people who have ALREADY been hostile toward them), then present it here.
Otherwise, we can all assume you accept what you have said is a lie.
Whether its true or not, perception is the key and it seems ISS have lost it totally.
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Cloudis
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Posted - 2006.12.08 14:13:00 -
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The only one from Dismemberment that should be posting here is Namelesz, this means not you Gaita, last I checked.
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maGz
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.08 15:13:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Verone
ISS aren't a neutral alliance, and should never be considered one.
There is no such thing as a "Neutral Alliance".
ISS simply use this term to reduce the amount of corporations who shoot at their stations and members.
They fire on who they want and make up excuses if it's questioned.
That, is not neutrality.
QFT
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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.08 18:41:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Verone
ISS aren't a neutral alliance, and should never be considered one.
There is no such thing as a "Neutral Alliance".
ISS simply use this term to reduce the amount of corporations who shoot at their stations and members.
They fire on who they want and make up excuses if it's questioned.
That, is not neutrality.
ISS clearly do NOT fire on whoever they wish, and you know this.
They fire on those who have ALREADY initiated hostilities toward them. I'm sorry that you're still a little bitter about failing to take the U'K outpost, but you need to get over it and cease spreading obvious lies such as the one above.
If you feel you have evidence to support your claim they 'shoot who they like' (ie not at people who have ALREADY been hostile toward them), then present it here.
Otherwise, we can all assume you accept what you have said is a lie.
i've seen iss members attack nuetrals when they were camping litom. So yes they do shoot however they please don't give me that bull****
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.12.08 22:15:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Murukan
i've seen iss members attack nuetrals when they were camping litom. So yes they do shoot however they please don't give me that bull****
How would you know if the people they were shooting were neutral or not, exactly?
I don't believe you share standings with them.
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.12.08 22:16:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it.
Meaningless words. Show me some evidence.
Give me an example of where ISS have INITIATED hostilities on someone who had not fired on them first.
Go on, we're all waiting.
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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.09 02:49:00 -
[40]
butter it's quite cute really to see you trying to be iss' knight in shining armor, but unfortunately it's too late. Everyone knows iss is as about as nuetral as bob and no amount of forum crying will change that fact.
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Wylker
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.09 04:09:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Wylker on 09/12/2006 04:27:05
So far I see posts from Dismemberment (who I believe are actually working on getting positive standings with ISS), Snigg (I mean seriously, you just congratulated yourselves on your 10k podmail) and Priory.
Priory, maybe you should focus on not getting your players banned from eve and actually try to accomplish something. Since now you can no longer camp outpost stations with your AFK recon ships, I wonder if you're going to have to find some miners elsewhere to pirate. It is really unfortunate actually, that you have many good pvpers that are respectable people in your corp/alliance, yet you continually let your least intelligent, most immature players represent you in chat channels and on the forums. We have had several good fights with Priory, but it always seems that when certain individuals are involved everything degenerates into childish actions and idiotic smacktalk.
SOD you could actually establish yourselves as an influence in the south if you would simply not allow people like Murukan and Magz (who was banned from the game for his behavior once already) be representatives of your alliance.
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insanebe
Caldari
soni Corp
Imperium Sonorumance
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Posted - 2006.12.09 08:41:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Murukan
butter it's quite cute really to see you trying to be iss' knight in shining armor, but unfortunately it's too late. Everyone knows iss is as about as nuetral as bob and no amount of forum crying will change that fact.
the moment i see a well established mining corp get targetted by iss is the moment ill say iss isn't neutral....untill then ill file this under the section of
"pvpers that hate the fact iss can defend itself"
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dantes inferno
Caldari
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.12.09 09:28:00 -
[43]
Quote:
SOD you could actually establish yourselves as an influence in the south if you would simply not allow people like Murukan and Magz (who was banned from the game for his behavior once already) be representatives of your alliance.
and prehaps people would start to belive you are neutral the day you start to act it all the time and not when it suits you.
RAM is recruiting |
Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.09 09:46:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Murukan on 09/12/2006 09:51:08
Originally by: Wylker
Edited by: Wylker on 09/12/2006 04:27:05
So far I see posts from Dismemberment (who I believe are actually working on getting positive standings with ISS), Snigg (I mean seriously, you just congratulated yourselves on your 10k podmail) and Priory.
Priory, maybe you should focus on not getting your players banned from eve and actually try to accomplish something. Since now you can no longer camp outpost stations with your AFK recon ships, I wonder if you're going to have to find some miners elsewhere to pirate. It is really unfortunate actually, that you have many good pvpers that are respectable people in your corp/alliance, yet you continually let your least intelligent, most immature players represent you in chat channels and on the forums. We have had several good fights with Priory, but it always seems that when certain individuals are involved everything degenerates into childish actions and idiotic smacktalk.
SOD you could actually establish yourselves as an influence in the south if you would simply not allow people like Murukan and Magz (who was banned from the game for his behavior once already) be representatives of your alliance.
awww the little iss  doesn't like me. And ya dude we can recon camp c3 if we want to, you can't probe out cloaked deep safes so sorry buddy when we get bored you'll see us back we've just been away shooting other stuff as your constant dock syndrome the second any of us enter local gets old. And you guys are ones to talk about smack you know, i see plenty of issn idiots blabbing their heads off in local whenever they think they are some kewl **** camping 3 in with 40.
And as for our influence? We establish that through our guns and not our little ***** whining of "oh noes don't shoot us we are nuetrals you ebil pirates!" like your pathetic alliance. The fact that every other alliance in curse docks the second we enter local i think is a testement to our influence.
Ohh and boy i'll make sure to pass along to knowledge to our leaders that iss would find us more respectable if they booted magz and i, they'll prolly really take it to heart
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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gusta
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.09 10:20:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Wylker
Edited by: Wylker on 09/12/2006 04:27:05
Priory, maybe you should focus on not getting your players banned from eve and actually try to accomplish something. Since now you can no longer camp outpost stations with your AFK recon ships, I wonder if you're going to have to find some miners elsewhere to pirate. It is really unfortunate actually, that you have many good pvpers that are respectable people in your corp/alliance, yet you continually let your least intelligent, most immature players represent you in chat channels and on the forums. We have had several good fights with Priory, but it always seems that when certain individuals are involved everything degenerates into childish actions and idiotic smacktalk.
I will be sure to let your alliance mates in c3- know that next time they are talking about getting us banned for griefing in c3 local for camping your system with our recons that they can thank you for it. and there is nothing stopping us from camping you guys in c3- as muru stated recons cant be probed out yet. 2 reasons you havnt had us in c3 as much latly is the fact that when we get within 2 systems of c3 your guys just dock up and wait for us to leave, and second we have a few new corps in our alliance and we are strengthening relations with them by doing joint ops.
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maGz
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.09 10:21:00 -
[46]
Edited by: maGz on 09/12/2006 10:27:07
I was almost about to post, just to uphold my position as being one of the least intelligent, most immature member of SOD/Priory, however Muru did such an excellent job so I'll just refer to his reply and something I just thought was suiting:
Bad boys bad boys
Watcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
when they come for you
Bad boys, bad boys
Watcha gonna do, watcha gonna do
when they come for you
So what are you going to do when we come for you?
EDIT: See what you did! You made me make one of the chezzyest posts ever
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.09 12:03:00 -
[47]
less waah-waah and more pew-pew ladies.
Quote:
Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.09 16:37:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Luthien Firefoot on 09/12/2006 16:37:29
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it.
Meaningless words. Show me some evidence.
Give me an example of where ISS have INITIATED hostilities on someone who had not fired on them first.
Go on, we're all waiting.
There's only 3 types of people who defend ISS neutrality:
1) ISS or alts
2) People with shares / isk in ISS assets.
3) Morons.
Which category do you belong to?
Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |
Amy Wang
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Posted - 2006.12.09 17:54:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Amy Wang on 09/12/2006 17:54:51
Being neutral is another thing as being stupid.
Who can blame ISS for defending themselves?
Seriously, people questioning ISS neutrality are usually pirates that are upset that they havent got as many easy kills as they wished and then they come and whine on the forums because their fragile egos got scratched.
Btw afaik there are a lot of people who once shot ISS and were -10 which are now +5 or even +10, you normally just have to ask for a NAP and act accordingly of course, which obviously includes not pirating ISS.
PS: Before you ask: Alt of someone who owns shares in ISS.
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.12.10 01:37:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/12/2006 01:37:07
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot
Edited by: Luthien Firefoot on 09/12/2006 16:37:29
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it.
Meaningless words. Show me some evidence.
Give me an example of where ISS have INITIATED hostilities on someone who had not fired on them first.
Go on, we're all waiting.
There's only 3 types of people who defend ISS neutrality:
1) ISS or alts
2) People with shares / isk in ISS assets.
3) Morons.
Which category do you belong to?
There are only three types of people who completely avoid a sensible written question, or request for evidence to back a claim
1) The blind
2) The ignorant
3) Tards
Which are you?
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marcouk2
Gallente
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.10 03:24:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/12/2006 01:37:07
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot
Edited by: Luthien Firefoot on 09/12/2006 16:37:29
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it.
Meaningless words. Show me some evidence.
Give me an example of where ISS have INITIATED hostilities on someone who had not fired on them first.
Go on, we're all waiting.
There's only 3 types of people who defend ISS neutrality:
1) ISS or alts
2) People with shares / isk in ISS assets.
3) Morons.
Which category do you belong to?
There are only three types of people who completely avoid a sensible written question, or request for evidence to back a claim
1) The blind
2) The ignorant
3) Tards
Which are you?
1) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=440934
2)http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=440934
3)http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=440934
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.10 09:50:00 -
[52]
Every single time a thread about ISS comes up, it's the same groups of pilots who reply en masse with the same negative things to say about the ISS every time, using the tactic that if they throw enough ****, maybe some of it will stick.
Forlani, you are not neutral to ISS, your corp has been on our kill on sight list for quite some time and your CEO knows why, because your corp has actively engaged ISS in the past and were placed on that list. I'm surprised you didn't know. I'd link you to our killboard showing Derek, Halock, Capt Rex, Mr John22ta, Namelesz, Apocalypsze and Phantom DarkMagic ganking a White Nova Corp (ISS) Blackbird (which was the first appearance of your corp on our killboard) but the killboard requires you to log in. Since that kill, all your corp have done is lose ships to us.
If you want to be removed from the kill on sight list, contact one of the ISS Management team to discuss it. It's not like you have to be on it permanantly for making one mistake.
Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources. |
Shivaja
Caldari
CHON
THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2006.12.10 13:03:00 -
[53]
ISS is not neutral and never was, if u guys cant see that or refuse see that from theyr past actions and presentations then i pity u your blind or just plain stupid period .
And ISS please spare us your faulty propaganda about neutrality no one belive you apart form some small pigeons. 
Shivaja Queen of Outer Ring
CHON ceo
THE R0NIN Kill Board
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.10 13:29:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Shivaja
ISS is not neutral and never was, if u guys cant see that or refuse see that from theyr past actions and presentations then i pity u your blind or just plain stupid period .
And ISS please spare us your faulty propaganda about neutrality no one belive you apart form some small pigeons.
Thanks for your input, I shall always wear it. Always run into a load of people with different definitions of 'neutral' so ... well that's always been a minefield.
How about apolitical. Is that a better way to describe it?
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gusta
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.10 13:50:00 -
[55]
Edited by: gusta on 10/12/2006 13:51:20
Originally by: Wylker
Edited by: Wylker on 09/12/2006 04:27:05
Since now you can no longer camp outpost stations with your AFK recon ships, I wonder if you're going to have to find some miners elsewhere to pirate.
Oh Wylker honey we're back and already spreading The Priory love
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Gutsani
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.10 14:05:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Wylker
CRY CRY CRY
I usually dont post on this smackforum alot, but you certainly deserve it ..
First and for all, you may start petitioning us again for griefing because we dont let you mine in c3- What do you expect us to accomplish exactly? We just accomplished out mission, you crying.
Second, we are already a "major influence" where we life, and thats fine enough. We dont wanne play the station pingpong game, we just wanne irritate, kill and loot you and whatevermore flys in front of my targeting computer. And you cant deny this, we havnt seen any ISS in weeks since we spanked you last time.
Last, magz and murukan are fine people, its not that because they got banned from the game once that they belong in a marginalious class in real life. Shut up about it or should we pull up your mission plan again, "Get every member of priory permabanned from the game so we can mine in love and peace"?
Give me 5 minutes, i'm sure someone on the internet is selling clues.
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Cloudis
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Posted - 2006.12.10 18:14:00 -
[57]
Sorry, did not know Gaita was an alt of our CEO :(
Gaita has solved this issue with Praxis.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
The Keep
THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.12.10 19:59:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it.
Meaningless words. Show me some evidence.
Give me an example of where ISS have INITIATED hostilities on someone who had not fired on them first.
Go on, we're all waiting.
There have been many instances where the only logical explanation for a pirate gang movement is that ISS members were leaking movements of scouts to them. It got to the point one week where if you jumped into a system with iss in it, you might as well spamm XXXXX chat with your fleet numbers.
Of course, this is up North, not where most of iss operates it seems.
This was a contributing factor in ISS getting set hostile to many an alliance.
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Forlani
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.10 23:37:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Nyphur
snip..
Forlani, you are not neutral to ISS, your corp has been on our kill on sight list for quite some time and your CEO knows why, because your corp has actively engaged ISS in the past and were placed on that list. I'm surprised you didn't know. I'd link you to our killboard showing Derek, Halock, Capt Rex, Mr John22ta, Namelesz, Apocalypsze and Phantom DarkMagic ganking a White Nova Corp (ISS) Blackbird (which was the first appearance of your corp on our killboard) but the killboard requires you to log in. Since that kill, all your corp have done is lose ships to us.
If you want to be removed from the kill on sight list, contact one of the ISS Management team to discuss it. It's not like you have to be on it permanantly for making one mistake.
While this issue has now been sorted, Id like to point out the ISS charter specificly states you have to continuiously attack ISS pilots to become KOS. We killed one. Now unless you have decided to invent a new form of english where continously now means once, you are wrong. Unlike you i DO know why we were put on the KOS list. Maybe you should speak to your mangement team before speaking up again.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 00:24:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Forlani
Originally by: Nyphur
snip..
Forlani, you are not neutral to ISS, your corp has been on our kill on sight list for quite some time and your CEO knows why, because your corp has actively engaged ISS in the past and were placed on that list. I'm surprised you didn't know. I'd link you to our killboard showing Derek, Halock, Capt Rex, Mr John22ta, Namelesz, Apocalypsze and Phantom DarkMagic ganking a White Nova Corp (ISS) Blackbird (which was the first appearance of your corp on our killboard) but the killboard requires you to log in. Since that kill, all your corp have done is lose ships to us.
If you want to be removed from the kill on sight list, contact one of the ISS Management team to discuss it. It's not like you have to be on it permanantly for making one mistake.
While this issue has now been sorted, Id like to point out the ISS charter specificly states you have to continuiously attack ISS pilots to become KOS. We killed one.
That is true and I'll see that we take that into consideration in the future.
Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources. |
Jack Forge
Gallente
Prox XII
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 00:42:00 -
[61]
nbsi policies are used to secure space mostly
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Madcat Adams
Mission Runners Anonymous Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.12.11 07:08:00 -
[62]
Not terriably suprising, though if your chaps shot first, it's understandable. One of my dear uncles (OOC: one of my market alts) flew up in a shuttle to check the market at a ISS base. Knowing pirates were about, he was a bit nervous, and ran into a gate camp. Seeing it was ISS ships, he breathed a sigh of relief, but before a second breath could be drawn, his ship was destroyed, and he was waking up at a cloaning facility. Upon contacting they claimed he was a spy, but there was not even an attempt at communication. We stay clear of ISS space now, low secuirty trade is hardly worth losing ships to me. At least in Jita I know the score flying in. 
It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Aimez- "oh ****, this is empire......."
Thanks for the loot, and next time you go out to pirate, carry more tech 2 plz =) |
Horatio Nately
Caldari
808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.11 07:59:00 -
[63]
There are 3 types of people in eve:ISS, Those that have set ISS to KOS, and those that are going to set ISS to KOS that havent realized it yet.
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Operations Officer, 808 Enterprises
Yes Eight Oh Eight, Not Bee Oh Bee
My Opinions pretty much represent my corp.
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Rockbox
Amarr
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.12.11 08:15:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Horatio Nately
There are 3 types of people in eve:ISS, Those that have set ISS to KOS, and those that are going to set ISS to KOS that havent realized it yet.
omg,
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 11:21:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Rockbox
Originally by: Horatio Nately
There are 3 types of people in eve:ISS, Those that have set ISS to KOS, and those that are going to set ISS to KOS that havent realized it yet.
omg,
High-Sec/0.0 PvP Recruitment |
Luthien Firefoot
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.11 12:28:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/12/2006 01:37:07
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot
Edited by: Luthien Firefoot on 09/12/2006 16:37:29
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
ISS claim to be neutral. They break the neutrality when they think can get away with it.
Meaningless words. Show me some evidence.
Give me an example of where ISS have INITIATED hostilities on someone who had not fired on them first.
Go on, we're all waiting.
There's only 3 types of people who defend ISS neutrality:
1) ISS or alts
2) People with shares / isk in ISS assets.
3) Morons.
Which category do you belong to?
There are only three types of people who completely avoid a sensible written question, or request for evidence to back a claim
1) The blind
2) The ignorant
3) Tards
Which are you?
So having had time to read the evidence and digest it I don't suppose it's dawned on you yet that you are a complete idiot.
I didn't have any respect for ISS anyway, because as I said before I know they are not neutral, but letting a moronic, ignorant, amoebic inbreed speak for them just confirms that they should all burn.
Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |
Luthien Firefoot
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.11 12:31:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Horatio Nately
There are 3 types of people in eve:ISS, Those that have set ISS to KOS, and those that are going to set ISS to KOS that havent realized it yet.
qftd.
SOOO true.
Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |
Xander Magnus
Caldari
Wolf Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.11 12:51:00 -
[68]
Ah yes, let loose the dogs of war and shoot the ISS haulers! Seriously guys, as much as I like to shoot easy targets, lets be honoroble and not give silly excuses for our actions. There's no shame in admitting shooting industrialists is fun, but saying you do it because of some fabricated reason is just sad.
ISS is a large alliance and there will always be incidents, expecting the alliance to be perfectly neutral is just plainly stupid. They try as best as they can, that's obvious to me. As long as you don't operate on some shady gray area you're always safe against them, they never shot my industrial cousin.
This said, and the celebrations started for the 100th thread of: 'ISS isn't neutral, WTFBBQ them!!', just admit you shoot ISS for the money and shooting easy targets is just easier and more fun then targets that are good at shooting back.
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Gaita
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Posted - 2006.12.11 15:16:00 -
[69]
This issue has been resolved. If agreements are not upheld the community will be the first to know. I strongly believe they will be upheld. This thread has served its purpose, any further posting will just be an attempt to create a flame war, thus this thread should be closed.
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MrRogerz
The Neighborhood
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Posted - 2006.12.13 03:23:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Murukan
butter it's quite cute really to see you trying to be iss' knight in shining armor, but unfortunately it's too late. Everyone knows iss is as about as nuetral as bob and no amount of forum crying will change that fact.
no dude, they dont know. Anyone who will mess with the shareholder's assets will be decimated I promise you
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Xander Magnus
Caldari
Wolf Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.13 05:07:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Xander Magnus on 13/12/2006 05:07:29
Murukan, in every thread about ISS I see that ugly pink signature of yours a thousand times stating the same lame arguments and opinions like they are facts, and you are always personally attacking everyone. I know for a fact that you are under 18 years old, and this alone should ring a bell for you... Grow up and please stop posting...
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VeNT
Minmatar
Freelancer Union
Unaffiliated
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Posted - 2006.12.13 10:39:00 -
[72]
I'm just going to say that its nice to see that ISS and Dismemberment have managed to sort this out like adults even with all the trollers and flames going on in this thread.
It's heart warming to see that alliances and corps in EVE still have the capacity to resolve their issues without resorting to smalk talk.
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Wylker
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 16:57:00 -
[73]
Gaita-
You guys were awesome in convo and I'm really glad we were able to work everything out. See you in space :)
Click the sig to understand
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Gaita
Minmatar
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.13 20:52:00 -
[74]
yes you as well....however we are still waiting for delivery of jerusalem
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Namelesz
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.14 20:36:00 -
[75]
FYI,
We did have a great convo and negotiations that night. BUT, that was last week and it is now the 14th and ISS has never met the terms or responded to our inquiry of those terms to be met after negotiations. The 48 hour window we agreed on has long passed. I have sent you an eve-mail Wylker couple days ago but no responses back yet.
The cease-fire was still in effect but we regret to inform you now that standings will have to be reset.
See you in space.
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Butter Dog
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.14 23:37:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Namelesz
FYI,
We did have a great convo and negotiations that night. BUT, that was last week and it is now the 14th and ISS has never met the terms or responded to our inquiry of those terms to be met after negotiations. The 48 hour window we agreed on has long passed. I have sent you an eve-mail Wylker couple days ago but no responses back yet.
The cease-fire was still in effect but we regret to inform you now that standings will have to be reset.
See you in space.
Terms?
lol
Just don't shoot ISS, and ISS won't shoot you :)
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Wylker
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.15 03:32:00 -
[77]
I answered your eve-mail yesterday I think. Sorry the gears are moving slowly, IAC's little tiff has thrown some things out of wack.
Click the sig to understand
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Helganstandt
Finis Lumen
Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.12.18 07:49:00 -
[78]
I'm interested to see how ISS handles this issue actually. It would be a good measure on their part if they managed to fix this issue. That would at least show me that while Praxis may have a lot of renegades with itchy trigger fingers, ISS is finally willing to come to terms with it and do something about it.
By the way, I should mention that our corporation falls under "any other corp or alliance who have also been stung by the injustice dished out by ISS in the south."
So if your dealings with ISS fall through, and should we happen to be in the Curse or Catch regions, we'd be more than happy to go raiding ISS with you.
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.18 16:51:00 -
[79]
NPC corp neutrals will always be fired on in 0.0. additionally, ISS and MC (cant speak for allies) are operating on NBSI policy in the f4r2 system (this system ONLY). its a warzone, and no other policy is possible or workable
Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Gaita
Minmatar
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.18 16:52:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Gaita on 18/12/2006 16:57:29
Fixing situations such as this should be a top priority, the fact that it had gone so long and no contact was made, means they did not take it seriously. Thus we have no reason to continue negotiations with an entity that does not take us seriously.
DMEM understands the war with IAC has got their attention focused in another direction. But diplomatic relations should never be sacrificed!
MC has no involvement with this, nor was it any understanding that we would have any terms with MC.
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18 Rabbit
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Posted - 2006.12.18 18:49:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Gaita
Edited by: Gaita on 18/12/2006 16:57:29
Fixing situations such as this should be a top priority, the fact that it had gone so long and no contact was made, means they did not take it seriously. Thus we have no reason to continue negotiations with an entity that does not take us seriously.
DMEM understands the war with IAC has got their attention focused in another direction. But diplomatic relations should never be sacrificed!
MC has no involvement with this, nor was it any understanding that we would have any terms with MC.
Honestly, I would think priorities would be the invasion from IAC, the new station raising, and the largest IPO in gaming history, but despite all that you were responded to, within a day after your arbitrary 48-hour window.
If you think that extra day delay under those circumstances is some kind of horrible provocation, I guess that's your perogative. To most people it just sort of looks like you're looking for a problem, but it really shouldn't be hard to work something out. Assuming that's what you want.
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Gaita
Minmatar
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2006.12.18 19:17:00 -
[82]
I wont be pulled into a flame war of who did what when and why. Ill pull convos and gather my information and all records if that is what is wished by the community.
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.18 21:39:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: dantes inferno
ISS are only neutral when it suits them. Their are countles upon countles examples of their non neutrality.
Give me just 3, then.
I'm waiting...
Day one
Day two
Day three
in EC
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Dark Shikari
What single item is larger than a jetcan?
My ego?
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.12.19 10:36:00 -
[84]
Aww don't feel bad its been my opinion over the years that most ISS pilots deserve to be shot. Wait thats pretty much my opinion about everyone oh well do what ya do.
Ha you think thats big wait till you see the next |
Booster Terrick
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Posted - 2007.01.05 01:57:00 -
[85]
As usual, I'm not amazed by the "ganker squads" jumping on the "I hate ISS" bandwagon...it's laughable how many of you pirate corps keep beating them over the head with their own charter, never dreaming of keeping anything resembling a promise yourselves.
Industrialists they are and fairly trustworthy, but you've never shown yourselves to be trustworthy at any time. I'd be surprised to find if for every 10 times ISS struggles to keep its declared neutrality if Sudden Death Squad, Snigg or the rest of you manage to keep an agreement once.
Making treaties with murderers will only get one murdered sooner or later. I for one will never trust a pirate, since the only good one is a dead one. 
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2007.01.05 14:11:00 -
[86]
ISS is neutral.
Neutral doesn't mean helpless
People think they're slick, then they get hit and cry about it
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Alterari Phoenix
Gallente
Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.07 06:04:00 -
[87]
ORLY!!! from being a previous member of the praxis initative i agree with everybody who says that we were allowing neutrals to move through our space unless provoked to attack witch was almost quite often because we got the reputation for being carebears the noobs who tried to atttack us were killed because they were stupid
The One Who is considered smart by others is usually dumb and the excluded loser in the corner is usually the smartest of the lot!!!!! |
Superbus Maximus
Gallente
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.01.07 07:03:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Booster Terrick
As usual, I'm not amazed by the "ganker squads" jumping on the "I hate ISS" bandwagon...it's laughable how many of you pirate corps keep beating them over the head with their own charter, never dreaming of keeping anything resembling a promise yourselves.
Industrialists they are and fairly trustworthy, but you've never shown yourselves to be trustworthy at any time. I'd be surprised to find if for every 10 times ISS struggles to keep its declared neutrality if Sudden Death Squad, Snigg or the rest of you manage to keep an agreement once.
Making treaties with murderers will only get one murdered sooner or later. I for one will never trust a pirate, since the only good one is a dead one.
We have many agreements that have been in place for years. None of which are your buisness or anyone elses but ours, so again people like make false assumptions. We kill people because its fun and we prefer to keep out of politics, because its fing boring. Killing people is fun so we try to keep our targeting options as open as possible.
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Cupdeez
Vengeance of the Fallen
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.08 19:01:00 -
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I don't think this really is a problem anymore.
ISS just lost KDF and I think D2 and others took there outpost in the north.
ISS might not have any 0.0 space left.
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Michael McNeil
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Posted - 2007.01.12 15:51:00 -
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I DO NOT speak for ISS, I HAVE NO SPEAKING power. what is written here is my feelings nothing else.
1st if this has started after IAC attacked us, then you know its a war zone. this happens in war, civi's/nutrals allways get cought in the cross fire. the only nutrals we shoot keep appairing, or are known alts of priates, or other hostiles. so if you are neither I strongly urge you to keep tryingt to get into contact with our diplomats, to resolve this. and remamber if you live in a war zone, your taking your life into your own hands.
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T Marvin
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.12 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: T Marvin on 12/01/2007 16:09:18
Originally by: Cupdeez
I don't think this really is a problem anymore.
ISS just lost KDF and I think D2 and others took there outpost in the north.
ISS might not have any 0.0 space left.
Yes, ISS had only 3 outposts. Yes, ISS is moving into Empire.
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Taikun
Gallente
Reaver Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: T Marvin
Yes, ISS had only 3 outposts. Yes, ISS is moving into Empire.
Give it time and yes... empire for the ISS carebears it will be.
I say give it 30 days of more pressure and it will fold like a house of cards. ISS is a entity built on faith. That faith has been definitaivly destroyed.
Goodbye ISS, and about time IMO.
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Horatio Nately
Caldari
Finis Lumen
The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: Horatio Nately on 12/01/2007 19:20:24
I'm seeing more and more ISS members pass through local in my JC implant station in empire as of the past week or so
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Posted - 2007.01.14 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Nately
There are 3 types of people in eve:ISS, Those that have set ISS to KOS, and those that are going to set ISS to KOS that havent realized it yet.
lmao i ahve them set to kos lol
bunch of carebear sheltering filth if you ask me
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