But if we get rid of highsec, where will I go to actually have fun after my daily dose of Sovlasering?

Lol look at it this way!

If there isn't a high sec then all the so called pirate/ merc corps will be free fire and you can get rid of having to wardec them if you want to kill them . it will make all of eve a rich pvp area :-)

You can always orbit our FW plexes. It's like sov lasering but without the sov laser.

Yeah, because PVE never happens in 0.0

You know, the place in eve with the most PVE per capita.

I say should it go away because in a since with all the changes people who leave corps because they want to avoid wardecs have now found that being in a npc corp has only slightly increased your chance of not losing something expensive.

Ganking has proven that!

When you think your safe flying billions worth of assets in Hs you find yourself getting ganked and rage quit.

Now if you increase the risk by lowering Hs to a lowsec stat then people usually try to be more careful when moving around .

Not autopiloting in a expesive ship or freighter in Hs thinking your safe just to come back too see you been ganked.

False since of security to me.

Wait, is this a stealth "nerf wardecs and ganking, buff highsec" thread?

What the hell is even happening right now? :iiam:

Ive been playing eve since 2006 and i seen so much change over that time.

Null sec use to have major brawls all the time now its nothing but rental space and small fights here and there.

then Low sec you would see decent fights and gate camps everywhere and large faction warfare battles.

High sec use to be some what quiet and full of miners and ratters. I remember when you could tank a Hulk out and solo kill guys in them..

These days i see Nullsec alliances jumping into other alliances battles just to get kills, and some have to travel long distances just to find people to attack that are willing to engage becasue of the amount on rented space.

In low sec ! all you here about and see are cap ships getting ganked while trying to travel from one place to another.

And there is high sec! i see players/corps telling miners to pay a mining fee to mine freely or they get ganked

I see groups ganking indy ships all the time exp freighters.

even ratting ships getting ganked by players flying in the sites and hitting the site trigger to spawn the entire room and once that ratter is taking enough Dps you can eaily gank them as well.

Seems like high sec might as well go away and make all of eve a null sec and Lowsec game..

If they want a New player friendly area then make a syatem that has a low isk profit that allows them to learn and once they decide and feel comfortable they can leave the Small high sec area and cant return but there will be missions that send them in a low sec area that they cant be attacked until the click on something to agree to leave the safety of Hs Timed missions so they cant fly around just to say haha you cant attack me. after the timer is up you are free to attack.

All of this is just my opinion from what ive been seeing.. a full nusec and low sec would be kinda cool i think..

First off! Learn to read the headline!

The headline itself was mearly a question of should it go away?

Second I explained in a short explanation of why I'm asking for an (opinion) on it.
Based on what I seen.

And what does eliminating Hgh sec have anything to do with nurfing anything? It would take away the need to require to wardec to attack someone yes! Nerfing was not mentioned only that having all Ls / null space wouldn't require a wardec to kill someone.

Yes there would be a lot of changes needed because of the ones in place right now but (again)

If was a question based on what Ive been seing and I'm curious on what people think about the current state of high sec and if people feel it should go away!

I say should it go away because in a since with all the changes people who leave corps because they want to avoid wardecs have now found that being in a npc corp has only slightly increased your chance of not losing something expensive.

Ganking has proven that!

When you think your safe flying billions worth of assets in Hs you find yourself getting ganked and rage quit.

Now if you increase the risk by lowering Hs to a lowsec stat then people usually try to be more careful when moving around .

Not autopiloting in a expesive ship or freighter in Hs thinking your safe just to come back too see you been ganked.

False since of security to me.

If you want to see pilots being docked even more then yes by all means, make it low/null-sec, and then of course watch as local gets more empty as pilots quit.

High-sec is a good social part of the game for those of us that are perhaps not so into pvp'ing every second you undock.

/c

because they have a huge aversion to even imaginary loss.

Yup. Highsec should exist for new players, risk-averse players, solo players, casual players and so forth.

But man, it is way too lucrative right now. Making a PvE or industrial income in highsec should never be competitive with the other spaces as it is right now. You know there is a problem when everyone and their cousin has an incursion or mission running alt or runs their industrial operation there under the free protection of CONCORD, even if they consider themselves a wormholer or nullseccer.

This is a root cause of much of the malaise in Eve right now - established players grinding highsec ISK in safety, rather than in more dangerous spaces where they might create conflict and serve as content. It devalues the other spaces and reduces them to "consensual" PvP zones since highsec income sources are mostly protected. Make highsec less lucrative and many players will move out chasing the better ISK and this will reinvigorate the other spaces.

It's also why New Eden needs the New Order and other such sources of risk in highsec more than ever before.

Ive been playing eve since 2006 and i seen so much change over that time.

Null sec use to have major brawls all the time now its nothing but rental space and small fights here and there.

then Low sec you would see decent fights and gate camps everywhere and large faction warfare battles.

High sec use to be some what quiet and full of miners and ratters. I remember when you could tank a Hulk out and solo kill guys in them..

These days i see Nullsec alliances jumping into other alliances battles just to get kills, and some have to travel long distances just to find people to attack that are willing to engage becasue of the amount on rented space.

In low sec ! all you here about and see are cap ships getting ganked while trying to travel from one place to another.

And there is high sec! i see players/corps telling miners to pay a mining fee to mine freely or they get ganked

I see groups ganking indy ships all the time exp freighters.

even ratting ships getting ganked by players flying in the sites and hitting the site trigger to spawn the entire room and once that ratter is taking enough Dps you can eaily gank them as well.

Seems like high sec might as well go away and make all of eve a null sec and Lowsec game..

If they want a New player friendly area then make a syatem that has a low isk profit that allows them to learn and once they decide and feel comfortable they can leave the Small high sec area and cant return but there will be missions that send them in a low sec area that they cant be attacked until the click on something to agree to leave the safety of Hs Timed missions so they cant fly around just to say haha you cant attack me. after the timer is up you are free to attack.

All of this is just my opinion from what ive been seeing.. a full nusec and low sec would be kinda cool i think..

If you want to see pilots being docked even more then yes by all means, make it low/null-sec, and then of course watch as local gets more empty as pilots quit.

High-sec is a good social part of the game for those of us that are perhaps not so into pvp'ing every second you undock.

/c

those of us that are perhaps not so into pvp'ing every second you undock.