Jesus christ, could these mechanics be even more complicated?

The decision to only affect new structures via Entosis is both a mistake and a missed opportunity; a kneejerk reaction to the bogeyman of structure grinding.

I never thought I'd already be missing the existing POS system...

but, but ,you can use your capitals to shoot enemy capitals... in case they show up; this ofc after spending a week moving your caps into position

If the only use for caps is to kill other caps, there's no incentive to move them anywhere or field them first.

Corporation members with enough roles to do so will have full information on vulnerability, reinforcement, capture timers. Notifications will be sent for those particular states to make sure people can respond and defend their structures in a timely manner.
Any external party to the corporation will only be able to see the timer related to the current state.

This is a big concern of mine as well, as I am a low sec industrialist and operate a couple POS effectively solo.

Now, maybe part of the point here is that CCP feels that a few people being able to maintain a structure that is impervious to all but groups of a size many times larger than themselves shouldn't be a thing. I don't think I've read that anywhere and I doubt it's the case, but let's suppose it is for a moment so I can bring up my main concern: it just doesn't make sense. Look, if things change such that my current enterprise (and I would expect a non-trivial number of others with similar setups) becomes unfeasible I'll just do something else, that's fine. I don't need to make drugs, I do it because it's fun and aligns with my casual play style. I'll tear my stuff down and try something else. But I'll still find these changes bothersome, not so much for mechanics reasons which on paper seem mostly fine from my perspective, but because they are thematically nonsensical.

I am wondering if a bit of laser focus on mechanics here by CCP has attributed to this byproduct of really kicking the flavor side of things in the junk. That a starbase can be destroyed without inflicting a single point of damage is just silly, and that's putting it very lightly. It doesn't feel fun and it doesn't feel like EVE. I like logging out at my drug house knowing that anyone who comes snooping around will be shot at. More importantly I am extremely comfortable with the notion that any group of a sufficient size that really wants to make a concerted effort to ruin my day can come over and blow up my stuff at any time. I am not at all comfortable with the notion that an individual or even a few individuals can swing by and click entosis unfettered, even if it's only for a few hours weekly.

Maybe I represent a micro niche in EVE that CCP is just not overly concerned about, but for whatever it's worth I can say of myself that I won't bother trying to reproduce how I currently play EVE under this new system as it's currently being presented. Not in a rage, just with a sigh.

Sweet, I've already dropped down from three accounts to one. Time to sell off my main and take the isk to play market games in Jita while the rest of you lemmings scurry about with your assets impounded all over new eden.

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Keep up the great work.

Caps are also very good at both killing & supporting battleships.
Which are in theory very good at killing battlecruisers.
Who 'should' be good at killing cruisers.

The BC's killing Cruisers is the point where the meta breaks down badly atm and why CCP have mentioned an upcoming BC/BS buff, which once BC & BS get used to escalate vs Cruisers, then naturally causes caps to become part of the escalation cycle around fighting for control of a grid of a citadel.

If they can fix some of the... frankly baffling portions of this, and make roles and such not a headache, they will be head and shoulders above the POS system. Seriously, POSes are one of the worst mechanics in modern gaming.

So if i have 1 kronos in the "station" that gets destroyed i have to pay 10% to get it "moved" to NPC station ?
That would mean at least 120mil for moving it to npc station ?

Not going to happen, if this is how it will work, i am moving to NPC space, period.

Would you rather it got destroyed completely? Or ended up locked up in a station you could not access forever?

Work on the the new Citadel structures is proceeding well. Now it is the time to discuss the design how you can attack, defend and conquer a Citadel.

All Citadels, no matter their size, will have 3 vulnerability windows and will be attacked via Entosis Link mechanics (though no Command Node spawning).

Please read CCP Ytterbium's blog Citadels, sieges and you and inform yourself about all the details! We encourage you also to read the companion blog I feel safe in Citadel city.

Constructive discussions and questions are most welcome, additionally the CSM has compiled an excellent FAQ for your convenience.

Why are vulnerability windows bigger for bigger structures? Shouldnt they be harder to take than the smaller versions? As it stands in NPC null an XL would be open 12 hours a day if spread across evenly. If you're a mainly USTZ group and you set it during the week to come out after work hours, you would need to set it to say 5PM - 5AM. Gives people of a different TZ plenty of options to hit you while you're asleep.

Nothing like having massive guns and doomsdays attached to your citadel and your gunner asleep at the wheel!

Considering the XL will cost billions and billions of isk, you should be able to really force all engagements on it into your own primetime.

Quick question:

How will jump beacons and cyno beacons work with these new structures. Since ultimately the citadels will be replacing POSes, is the module still going to be floating in space a ways from the citadel, or will it be more along the lines of randomly showing roughly 30km from the undock?

Thanks!