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GAC
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: GAC on 20/11/2003 14:05:12
I Have the mis-fortune of being podded by Evolution members. I was on route to update my clone, as I had not needed to in the past. I didnt realise that my clone was so basic. I lost my skill points and so the game is back to square one for me :(
To exact my revenge I have been hitting their mining op with Gurilla tactics, Im now only a n00b, with a n00b ship, with my clone set in my home base. This now allows me to be a bit careless so I can keep hitting them again and again.
After a period of 2 days, they (evolution) filed a harrassment complaint against me! Im the one thats been victimised here, forced or tried to force out from my home. I have replied to the harrassment petiton with one of my own.
Evolution has dropped to an all time LOW, they have now started to spout information about my parents and my life. I will post a link to a picture to explain more.
I think you'll agree with me that to call my parents, this is SICK I feel extremely hurt and I don't know the best way to go about this.
I have never felt the need to post before, I pays my monies and I play my game.
http://www.eve.3dpixelnet.com/evol1.jpg
http://www.eve.3dpixelnet.com/evol2.JPG
Thanks to a mate for the webspace
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: drunkenmaster on 20/11/2003 14:06:11
in before the lock!!!!
As for the content...
no comment.
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eve player 70
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: eve player 70 on 20/11/2003 14:10:35
No fair Evol !!!
Your CEO needs to take action over this... At worst its a bannable offense.
Never mind the fact that you barge in and take over systems that other people have called home for many months.
Nothing more than playground bully tactics, you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Perhaps the many postings about your actions are true after all and you really are not just pirate hunters but pirates yourselves.
It takes a real man to recognise when he has done wrong and apologise for his actions.
edit for spelling
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:10:00 -
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/emote hands GAC a cookie
Now, start playing the game instead of being an ass.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Cliff Yablonski
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:11:00 -
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Considering:
- You are someone who bought GAC's account
- Are an alt of m0o
- Have been harassing Evo ops for a few days now for no reason
I can't feel sorry for you. Please go away.
Information may or may not be accurate.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:13:00 -
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Unless you had less than 30k skillpoints, I find it fairly unlikely that you lost them all when you were podded.
Even so, you should always remember your clone.
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"My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
"No, it's none of your business." |
GAC
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:19:00 -
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/emote hands GAC a cookie
Now, start playing the game instead of being an ass.
so you finfd it acceptable to call your parents peadophiles ?
/emote hands Dalman a reality check
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:24:00 -
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ok basically this guy has been comming into the system, trying to blow up our cans etc. so we podded him over and over actually 38 times. he would come back saying "I LIKE PAIN" then spammed us in local with some kinda quotes from a book. he wouldn't leave us alone for 9 hours, so we handed in a petition.
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Lanish
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Lanish on 20/11/2003 14:26:45
Best for strangers to stay out of things like this as I'll start getting flammed and podded but had to comment.
But I do not have the words.
Speachless.
Regardless of reasons/alts/spams or the like.
Still no reasons/excuses for the content of the chat.
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" Put your balls back in your hangers boys, I'm just here for your money.. "
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:27:00 -
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oh and, another thing, that was not mrfixit, it was JAVI still a evolution member, but using mrfixit's account. just so you know :)
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bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:28:00 -
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where does it say that?
i dont see that anywhere
:P
Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
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Golgrath
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:28:00 -
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You don't loose all skillpoints when podded and no clone. Just a lvl here and there.
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Havalon
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:28:00 -
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I am disgusted by what I read on those links. Those two idiots seriously need to be banned.
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BatManolo
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:34:00 -
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Towards the corp:
Play the game. If someone gets on a vengeancerage against you, kill him..over...over...over...over...and over again. It's not harasment against players, it's harasment against the corporation in a roleplay kind of manner. I don't mind someone calling my daddy-o whatnot and a bit worse, but some do. So some consideration is appropriate.
Towards GAC:
Harden your skin kid. Anything that revolves around thousands of people from all around the world will have people calling you names, your mother a man, your poodle ****-le and your grandmother a clown. When you started your attack, you asked for a beatdown verbally.
So to both:
Play the game and grow up a bit.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:36:00 -
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yeah, the more I think about it, the more fishy it smells.
a) I've not heard of *anyone* losing all their skillpoints, even with no clone at all.
b) You stated that you did have a clone, but it is out of date. Which would make you a liar.
and the comeback 'my parents are dead' is older than the hills, and it's accuracy cannot be judged in-game. So the only means of verification we have available is your trust-level, which, after b) above, is in question.
I won't comment on the other guys claims, as I cannot verify them at all.
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Poga Kamper
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:36:00 -
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Have been harassing Evo ops for a few days now for no reason
I believe he said this in the beginning of his post:
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I Have the mis-fortune of being podded by Evolution members. I was on route to update my clone, as I had not needed to in the past. I didnt realise that my clone was so basic. I lost my skill points and so the game is back to square one for me :(
He is getting revenge. Sounds like a reason to me. Go get those 'stop harassing us cuz we told big brother on you' babies.
I thought Evolution was s'posed to be a bunch of badazzes, guess not...
And Cliff - update your damn webiste more often man!
Poga Kamper
Anti-Forum Hore
"Making stuff go boom since 1997"
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Cliff Yablonski
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:42:00 -
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I Have the mis-fortune of being podded by Evolution members. I was on route to update my clone, as I had not needed to in the past. I didnt realise that my clone was so basic. I lost my skill points and so the game is back to square one for me :(
Probably by not leaving when they ask. Which is allright.
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And Cliff - update your damn webiste more often man!
The intarweb is broken where i liv. I use my cousin's computer machine to post on the forums
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GAC
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:44:00 -
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I still have 67 skills, but with 99% of them at lvl 0,
I dont feel like training them again, would you ?
I'll find you a link to the newspaper office thats reports the death if you like, but I would like to remain annon as can be understood.
I still feel sickend by all of this.
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Poga Kamper
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:45:00 -
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He didn't say he lost ALL his skillpoints, just that he lost his skillpoints. The trust factor of anyone you don't know is pretty much zero so that goes for both parties.
If anything, it's a good RP "I'm gonna get you sucka" type of thing, "and your little dog, too!"
But bringing personal RL insults into the game is just about as stupid as it gets.
Poga Kamper
Anti-Forum Hore
"Making stuff go boom since 1997"
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Poga Kamper
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Poga Kamper on 20/11/2003 14:47:43
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The intarweb is broken where i liv. I use my cousin's computer machine to post on the forums
Damn boy, that things been busted for what? 1 Year now? Lazy bastard... 
Poga Kamper
Anti-Forum Hore
"Making stuff go boom since 1997"
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Beringe
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:50:00 -
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I dont feel like training them again, would you ?
Then why are you still playing? What damage could you possibly do to Evolution in a starter ship, besides annoying and harrassing them?
Stop. Think. Act.
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"My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
"No, it's none of your business." |
Araviel
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:52:00 -
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I am disgusted by what I read on those links. Those two idiots seriously need to be banned.
i agree, or Evols CEO should really take actions against thoose members. im upset to se that kind of behaviour from evol members, evol was a corp that i used to respect.
EPIC Recruitment post
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:55:00 -
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He didn't say he lost ALL his skillpoints, just that he lost his skillpoints. The trust factor of anyone you don't know is pretty much zero so that goes for both parties.
If anything, it's a good RP "I'm gonna get you sucka" type of thing, "and your little dog, too!"
But bringing personal RL insults into the game is just about as stupid as it gets.
okay then. *NOW* he says he has lost all his skillpoints.
Agreed though, such insults are totally unnecessary.
I can think of millions of insult combinations that don't involve a person's family members.
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.11.20 14:59:00 -
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yeah the person who insulted gac is a dolt :/ wasn't needed but oh well cant change the past.
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Captain Lugnut
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Posted - 2003.11.20 15:06:00 -
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ok basically this guy has been comming into the system, trying to blow up our cans etc. so we podded him over and over actually 38 times. he would come back saying "I LIKE PAIN" then spammed us in local with some kinda quotes from a book. he wouldn't leave us alone for 9 hours, so we handed in a petition.
ya, you acted like a bunch of babies, and then made RL insults towards him and his parents.
I think that the player doing this insulting should be banned for awhile, and your corp should accept that the "harrasser" is using a tactic that is acceptable in eve (or GM's are saying that to repeat an action of grief is a bannable offense, and be forced to ban Biomass and SI also...).
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Ch'ryl
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Posted - 2003.11.20 15:06:00 -
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Can't change the past, but an apology might help. No matter how much someone is annoying you, childish name-calling and dragging RL insults into a game is only making your corp look bad. You may be arrogant so and so's, but even I didn't think Evol would stoop that low.
You know my views on Evolution's take-over of Aring so I am not going to go over them again here. There's not a lot I or my corp can do about it so no point flogging a dead horse.
However, and I am not sticking up for Evolution here (heaven forbid!), there could be some truth in the suggestion that GAC is not quite telling the whole truth. Our corp have been active in Aring for quite a long time, and I was using it as my home base for a couple of months. During that time I got to know a lot of the 'locals' and never once encountered GAC.
Why is it that when someone tells you that there are over a billion stars in the universe, you believe them, but if they tell you there is wet paint somewhere, you have to touch it to make sure? |
SirMolle
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Posted - 2003.11.20 15:06:00 -
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Gday sirs.
For 3 days, our corporation has been running a major mining op in empire space, 0.3 sec system, Aring.
We tell ppl to leave, as we want no visitors, scouts, hostiles.
We dont have a problem with using muscles to move ppl out, no problem loosing security over it.
For the third day in a row now, this character, has been constantly harassing us, i.e, newb ship, hop into belt, wait to get shot, suicide, get new newb ship, rinse repeat.
So far we have collectivly lost about -30 (in the corp) of sec rating over this, which, i would have NO problem with if this character stood to loose anything. Since this person is using a alt, he looses nada.
We can keep pooding him til doomsday, and nothing will happen to him.
This is day #3, and i think it will continue for as long as we are here, frankly, i find it lame to even have to petition it, but im way fed up with this behaviour.
Be glad to hear your view of this.
Sincerely
xxx "Molle" xxxxx
The screenshot chats may be harsh or inappriate, but when someone is acting lame, they get met by the same thing.
If this person wanted to mess with our mining op, he is much welcome to do so, with proper fighting. We can blow up impairors til next month. After 3 days of doing it, it becomes boring and, not to mention, totally lame.
Yes, we take over a system. Yes, we bully people out. Yes, you are free to stop us from doing so.
Being lame with the sole intention to **** ppl off to the degree that you can catch something improper in chat to use as propaganda, is just, lame.
So GAC, if you have a problem with your "home" system, do something about it. Use muscle. Use guns. Hire friends. Do whatever works to get us out so you can have your home system back.
We are going to stay where we are, if you want us out, use something that works.
If you even had the intention to try an at least kill cans, but not even that, newbie ship with newbie guns, and its impossible for you to kill cans, and you know it.
"I lost all my skillpoints"
Bull****. And you all know it.
I'm not going to apologize because ppl get annoyed at you after 3 days of newb ship killing to no avail. If you would have handled this matter differently, I might have considered correcting those who used improptu language, but now I see it for what it is.
This is your sole purpose, annoy someone enough to get some juicy chatlog that you can use for PR stunts like this.
Be gone, learn to play the game and deal with it. Its obvious you cannot deal with this environment where might makes right.
Case closed.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.11.20 15:14:00 -
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No matter how you put it. Insulting someone¦s parents like this is unacceptable and you should be banned for doing so. Period.
Mai's Idealog |
Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.11.20 15:19:00 -
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GAC really, truly have a cookie.
You cant fight, you're being a lame-ass.
I've been called things that are like 15x what you've been called. I've been called things in multiple foreign languages that i dont even know.
But sticks and stones...
In my case, i dont really care, it even amuses me.
In your case, you're being lame because you cant play the game like you should and this is a pathetic attempt to "attack" your enemies the only way you can.
So have a cookie!
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.11.20 15:27:00 -
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LOL
We used to get this all the time, even had entire corps created to harrass us.
Just a sad fact of camping systems sadly..
/me misses IMAFREEKINSPY.. that guy was classy :P
STAVEH!!!
EKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.11.20 15:32:00 -
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Quote:
EKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE
[cringe]
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.11.20 15:46:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
/emote hands GAC a cookie
Now, start playing the game instead of being an ass.
so you finfd it acceptable to call your parents peadophiles ?
/emote hands Dalman a reality check
Well, you can either confess that you are an ass or you can claim that since this is a RPG you were roleplaying this character, and then the Evol member can claim it was in character and roleplaying too, since there obviously is something wrong in the head on that character you were roleplaying.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Deathwing
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Posted - 2003.11.20 15:56:00 -
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I notice people love to scream "RL insult" at every chance they get when it comes to a little insult chucked around in this game
Im sorry, but I doubt there is a game on the market that revolves around internet based play, that you wont be subject to an insult or two for being a muppet
I also think dalman has the right idea on this matter. If GAC's pathetic actions can be viewed as an RP attempt in some fasion, who is to say that those chat logs were not taken in an RP sence as well, there is now way you can say that the person was RP'ing that type of character. The only person who knows if it was RP or not, is the person using the Char. So i think all the kids in here have to sit down and stop crying over spilt milk and a name or two.
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Avon
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Posted - 2003.11.20 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 20/11/2003 16:41:17
Flying around shooting stuff is part of the game.
Insulting people in chat is part of the game.
Calling a players father a peodophile is harassment.
Why would you file a petition against someone you just admitted can't do you any harm?
'Oh please ban this annoying person GM'
'WHY MY SON?'
'Because he keeps attacking us for no reason.'
'HAS HE DONE MUCH DAMAGE?'
'No, he can't hurt us or our mining opperations in any way.'
'HAVE A COOKIE, CAREBEAR.'
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Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Raukorya
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Posted - 2003.11.20 16:39:00 -
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Yea, I agree that GAC was probably becoming an annoying little****ot. Granted. But there is no reason, under any circumstances, to start insulting people OOC like that. Knowing Evo to be a fairly respectable and honorable corp, I would expect some kind of action to be taken in this matter.
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If there is a such thing as too much power, i have yet to discover it. |
Oosel
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Posted - 2003.11.20 16:54:00 -
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am i right in thinking if you are just going through aring on your travels to somewhere else then theres no problem in doing so....i only ask as i do go through there when on missions from time to time
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2003.11.20 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: Plasmatique on 20/11/2003 17:47:03
What was said to GAC was distasteful and lame in chat channel.
But as long as it stays in Eve chat or evemail it's acceptable. Once it leaves eve and moves to internet email, IRC chat...or worse like snail-mail or telephone calls then it crosses the line and action should be taken.
IMO, Evo's CEO should probably give out a slap (or worse) and demand a little better behavior out of their members.
I always thought Evo had more class than that, tis a shame. But I don't think it warrants any bans to be levied.
*Edit*
Forgot to add....
Anybody can kill you at any time for anything...stay on your toes, kill them first or deal with it.
If they want to take over that system and you don't have enough guns to stop them, then leave...or you could continue to harass their mining ops DO NOT whine when you get podkilled or receive some verbal abuse.
Also Evol shouldn't whine about being harassed.
Something smells fishy about the whole "I lost all my skills bit"
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Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Sequin
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Posted - 2003.11.20 17:51:00 -
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Hey GAC, guess what.
No one gives a ****.
I've been called worse, and i'm a freaking carebear. Act like an ass, get treated like one.
Here, you've earned this.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.11.20 18:03:00 -
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I gotta go with Sirmolle and the rest on this.
Press anyone's buttons long enough and eventually they're gonna give you what you asked for: a smackdown.
Even a jet container has enough hp that a n00b ship with starter guns has realistically no hope of destroying it before someone that's not AFK blasts them to pieces.
So he's doing something he knows has no chance of success with the intention of being a PITA. That's fine. 2 wrongs don't make a right. But he did start it.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Reiisha
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Posted - 2003.11.20 18:06:00 -
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No matter how you put it. Insulting someone¦s parents like this is unacceptable and you should be banned for doing so. Period.
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Flying around shooting stuff is part of the game.
Insulting people in chat is part of the game.
Calling a players father a peodophile is harassment.
Why would you file a petition against someone you just admitted can't do you any harm?
'Oh please ban this annoying person GM'
'WHY MY SON?'
'Because he keeps attacking us for no reason.'
'HAS HE DONE MUCH DAMAGE?'
'No, he can't hurt us or our mining opperations in any way.'
'HAVE A COOKIE, CAREBEAR.'
Totally agree on this. Insulting someone's parents in this way, even after hearing GAC never knew them as they died when he was 7, is totally unacceptable. They only one who has to "grow up" here are Evolution members.
They should know when to stop. Saying they have gonew through this themselves is total bull****. I doubt their parents died at such a young age. Also, the fact that they can deal with normal pirate threats doesn't mean everyone can.
Though i guess they're only 12 year olds who know nothing but to irritate people.
Get a friggin life you evo creeps.
Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming! |
Anla Shok
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Posted - 2003.11.20 18:18:00 -
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I Have the mis-fortune of being podded by Evolution members.
you died.
live with it.
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Georg Inekn
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Posted - 2003.11.20 18:19:00 -
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Anyone who gets bent out of shape by what someone says in a game, forum, or IRC needs to step back from the keyboard and find something else to do for a while.
That said, Evolution is being INCREDIBLY lame by petitioning him for harassment, especially by saying "He's forcing us to lose security status because we HAVE TO POD HIM OVER AND OVER!"
Someone holding a gun to your head to blow up his noob ship?
Play the game. Security status hits are part of the game. Don't like it? Don't play.
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Sedsiss
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Posted - 2003.11.20 18:19:00 -
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I doubt his parents are dead too, considering this isn't even GAC but a m0o alt who bought his account. |
Reiisha
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Posted - 2003.11.20 18:22:00 -
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Oh? That makes the entire insulting chat we saw allright? Sure.
Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming! |
Cliff Yablonski
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Posted - 2003.11.20 18:23:00 -
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and of course reiisha is all sensitive when she gets harassed for 3 days straight ;p
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Skaz
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Posted - 2003.11.20 18:24:00 -
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Ok.....he might have been one annoying *** but why? why couldn't that guy had the common sense too leave personal things out of this?
Why din't all comms stop after informing the kid about the petition. Why start making personal insults?
Should've just ignored him......this.....will hurt everybody man.
"No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..." |
Sedsiss
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Posted - 2003.11.20 18:28:00 -
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Maybe he was roleplaying, arrrr. |
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.11.20 18:38:00 -
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Waitwaitwait...I know this is a game. And I know in this game we play characters with a human genetic background...
But when did that stop us, the players, from being human? After 3 days, and wasting 38 poddings worth of ammo, and still he comes pretty much everyone replying wouldn't give 2 ****s what they said. I know cause half of you do it in reply to me here on these forums.
Let's not try and jump on the high horse here folks. That horse is about 2 inches tall for many of you.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Flatliner
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Posted - 2003.11.20 19:54:00 -
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Lmao @ GAC.
Sure you want everyone to take you seriously.
Nice pr spin against Evo btw, seems people sympathise with you, tho can't see why.
Here you are, with screenshots and the usual drivel about a poor trader passing through a system and gets podd'd, when asked to leave.
Thing that's missing here is the timespan it took for you to eventually push the right buttons for one of us to snap and say something bad to you in local, you got it and here you are with screenies and whinings.
I went all the way to -10 killing you GAC and I mean you were a pest, there was no gurilla warfare tactics on your behalf, everytime you entered the belt you died before you could do anything. Even the locals who were here have no clue who you are, good pr spin tho, I usually enjoy the bleatings of a whiner, but I do think you went too far with it. 3 days is a long time to get killed, blah on about the bible in local and claim to be a mole in Evo.
So do us a favour, and crawl back to where ever you came from.
I have no sympathy for a premeditated pr spin.
Flatliner.
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SUNscatcher
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Posted - 2003.11.20 20:09:00 -
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GAC you got podded, then ****ed off, then set out to harrass the podders. You succeeded dude and when you started getting under their skin they called you some names BUT eventually realized that wasn't the proper way to deal with the situation and then petitioned you.
Whats the problem?? Its' not their fault you didn't update your clone earlier(if that is truely the case). Getting podded is part to the game.
Setting out in a newbie ship time after time can be considered nothing but a harassment technique since there was little hope of ever being able to strike a meaning blow against them.
You've been caught acting like a child. Own up and move on or just let it go if you aren't mature enough to admit a mistake.
If you can catch me you can have me. |
Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.20 20:15:00 -
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lol, you're lucky i wasn't there. you probly would have ended up saying those things to me.
i agree with javi on everything he said and i support him fully.
i also forgive your parents. |
Lu'cesha
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Posted - 2003.11.20 20:25:00 -
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Seems EVERYONE is missing the point, what was said there should be bannable offence.
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT HAPPANED PRIOR TO THAT CONVERSATION, IT DOES NOT MATTER IF HIS/HERS PARENTS ARE DEAD.
So if that person wont be banned, at least a week or two, then it says the rest of us that we can fly around EVE talking sh1t in local, all we need to say is, he is annoing and had it coming.
WAKE UP PEAPLE, most of you are afraid to post what you really think since you might meet Evolution members later on and they might remember your postings, but I bet all of you think that was an all time low to say to a person.
What if his parents did die when he was seven.
What if his father did indead molest him.
What if that person who is playing that account is an XX year old buy/girl and he felt truly bad after that?
You want those things being said to your little brother/syster, or even your own child?
This is a game and personal attacks should not be allowed in any form.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.20 20:28:00 -
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hey luc, [ic]i hope you die of herpes[/ic]
that's ok, right? |
Flatliner
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Posted - 2003.11.20 20:32:00 -
[54]
Yay keep the PR anti Evol spin running!!
Rattle's skeletons in the closet.
Seriously tho, this topic should be locked now, the facts are out from both sides and one can see it was premeditated.
Strokes GAC's corpse hrrm all 20 of them.
Flatliner.
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Gunni
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Posted - 2003.11.20 20:57:00 -
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[ic]hmm... i dont like evol.. but u are harrasing them, just coz u died and lost a few skillpoints....
stfu stupid n00b and go END YOURSELFÖ[/ic]
but really not cool to say that about your parents.. but who really cares???
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Viziam
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SUNscatcher
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Posted - 2003.11.20 21:01:00 -
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you mean afraid like the 10 pages of posts laughing at Tank kinda afraid??
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.11.20 21:28:00 -
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Waitwaitwait...I know this is a game. And I know in this game we play characters with a human genetic background...
But when did that stop us, the players, from being human? After 3 days, and wasting 38 poddings worth of ammo, and still he comes pretty much everyone replying wouldn't give 2 ****s what they said. I know cause half of you do it in reply to me here on these forums.
Let's not try and jump on the high horse here folks. That horse is about 2 inches tall for many of you.
'kay. Do you want the pot costume or the kettle outfit this time out?
the only useful thing this thread did was pry Stavros out from under his rock for a minnit. Geh, burn it and carry on. People are gits, other people are gits too, people have varying opinions on what the appropriate procedures for githood escalation are in response to varying levels of gititude. Amazing astonishing shocking goddamn revelation let's move on with our lives now kthxbye.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.11.20 21:31:00 -
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So if that person wont be banned, at least a week or two, then it says the rest of us that we can fly around EVE talking sh1t in local,
Right. And you have the AMAZINF ability to *absolutely block out anything that person says!* Isn't that astounding? Don't you wish you could do that in Real Life? Wouldn't it be awesome to hear everyone in the world except people who annoy you, whose lips move but no sound comes out? Wow! Rejoice! Celebreate! Hallelujah! Cookies and Milk and Smurfs snogging Carebears in Verdant Valleys and Flowery Fields!
****the ******* goddamn ****ty-ass censorship craze.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.11.20 21:52:00 -
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Quote:
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Waitwaitwait...I know this is a game. And I know in this game we play characters with a human genetic background...
But when did that stop us, the players, from being human? After 3 days, and wasting 38 poddings worth of ammo, and still he comes pretty much everyone replying wouldn't give 2 ****s what they said. I know cause half of you do it in reply to me here on these forums.
Let's not try and jump on the high horse here folks. That horse is about 2 inches tall for many of you.
'kay. Do you want the pot costume or the kettle outfit this time out?
Hrmm...the pot costume makes me look fat. I'll go with kettle. 
Seriously, now. I expect the same treatment I give to others. It's the principle on which I base my replies: Do Unto Others...
But the people replying "how cruel!" reek of the same crap as people screeching "<insert name of pirate/pirate corp/alliance here> Lag Exploits!" while trying to cram as many bships, drones, mines and kitchen sinks into 5 square kilometers of space themselves. They're 100% capable of doing the same.
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the only useful thing this thread did was pry Stavros out from under his rock for a minnit. Geh, burn it and carry on. People are gits, other people are gits too, people have varying opinions on what the appropriate procedures for githood escalation are in response to varying levels of gititude. Amazing astonishing shocking goddamn revelation let's move on with our lives now kthxbye.
Easiest solution, warn everyone and move on.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2003.11.20 22:02:00 -
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This is a game and personal attacks should not be allowed in any form.
Yes, I agree completely. This is the internet FFS & personal insults are completely out of line, especially when playing a computer game.
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2003.11.20 22:35:00 -
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Seems EVERYONE is missing the point, what was said there should be bannable offence.
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This is a game and personal attacks should not be allowed in any form.
Good grief. I have just finished reading 3 pages filled with the most pitiable brand of grousing.
You are playing an online game in which you mine, steal, and make clandestine deals all in order to hoard vast quantities of wealth so that you can fly around in big ships with even bigger guns. All so that you can blow up other people.
And yet some of you are here proselytizing about the potential harm to young children.
I am not a big fan of classless trashtalking in chat. But I find myself wondering:
Do you, ever, even occasionally, find yourselves embarrassed by your own hypocrisy?
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2003.11.20 22:49:00 -
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Look, I didnt have anything against Evolution, and i DO think that GAC shouldnt be comming there all the time.
What i DO think, and thats the REAL point of this, is that that kind of language and foul accusations shouldn't be allowed anywhere....
Evolution takes this far too lightly, and THATS the reason why i dislike them now. They act as if everyone gets these things shot to their heads every day and every night.
Well they DONT.
At least say something like: "Yes, Javi (or mrfixit, whatever) has stepped out of line, and we'll take care of it." But the only reaction we get from Evolution is that he is just whining over getting podded, and he should just stop playing or whatever.
What kind of behaviour is this?
Seriously, this ain't roleplaying in any form, it's just plain bullying... out of game even. I just can't get it that people don't see this.
Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming! |
Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.20 22:51:00 -
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This is a game. One for adults that includes plenty of competition. Guess what that means? Trash talking happens.
Solution: don't take it personally, and if you do don't come here looking for sympathy. Nobody's going to play camp counselor for you.
Veruna Caseti
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Hematic
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Posted - 2003.11.20 22:59:00 -
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GAC - Sticks and stones. Appeal people if their conduct is breaking rules.
Evol - GAC is waging sec status war on you. Apparently you are losing and you resort to calling names. Grow up.
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2003.11.20 22:59:00 -
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If smack-talking and personal insults are "part of the experience" then why isn't ore destruction?
o.O
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Van Cleef
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Posted - 2003.11.20 23:57:00 -
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Seems EVERYONE is missing the point, what was said there should be bannable offence.
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT HAPPANED PRIOR TO THAT CONVERSATION, IT DOES NOT MATTER IF HIS/HERS PARENTS ARE DEAD.
So if that person wont be banned, at least a week or two, then it says the rest of us that we can fly around EVE talking sh1t in local, all we need to say is, he is annoing and had it coming.
WAKE UP PEAPLE, most of you are afraid to post what you really think since you might meet Evolution members later on and they might remember your postings, but I bet all of you think that was an all time low to say to a person.
What if his parents did die when he was seven.
What if his father did indead molest him.
What if that person who is playing that account is an XX year old buy/girl and he felt truly bad after that?
You want those things being said to your little brother/syster, or even your own child?
This is a game and personal attacks should not be allowed in any form.
Oh please, I doubt any Evo members would even remember who said what is a few days, and besides, if they want to Pod me over what I believe and say on the forums about out of game topic then thats just plain sad.
I see immaturity on both sides, quit poking fingers and everyone and move on. You think one corp or one person said something that offends you, then you can hold your grudge and in the future you can deal with that person how you feel as appropiate.
Running here and saying to everyone "LOOK WHAT HE DID" isnt going to gain you any favors, and serves no purpose.
If your that offended then go some where else where you will not come into contact with them and play the game.
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2003.11.21 00:16:00 -
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While I can careless what anyone called anyone else in this fight. What I find funny is that Evol petitioned that they were forced to kill someone for destroying space salvage.
Correct me if I am wrong, but is not the official ruling of CCP that cargo containers are salvage, so if GAC wants to shoot them, how can it possibly be harassment? If this is harassment, then please have all the container thieves banned for harassing.
I salute GAC for using his only advantage to hurt a superior force. No one forced Evol to fire on GAC for shooting salvage.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Galk
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Posted - 2003.11.21 00:19:00 -
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Lets face it, in a population of thousands, your allways gona get a bunch of morons that take it too far.
However cleef, letting them have there way so they can move on to the next and the next shouldn't be the way.
Idiots caught in logs spouting verbal abuse of a nature of a personal manner, not relating to the game in anyway should be kicked out, plain and simple.
There just bullies and plain pathetic.
More so, because im pretty much certain the vast majority would never spout it to the persons face.
It's all to easy to hide behind the monitor, but then so is the ease of booting them out.. it 'should' be dealt with by CCP.
It's not a game
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Van Cleef
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Posted - 2003.11.21 00:25:00 -
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More so, because im pretty much certain the vast majority would never spout it to the persons face.
There is the bane of online game play and 12 year olds with parents who dont discipline their children.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.21 01:11:00 -
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!!!WARNING!!! Harsh words below! Might cause your self esteem to tumble! Those without a clue should not read!
GAC, you are the lamest player I have met yet by pulling this stunt. I sincerely hope you don't give up trying to harrass us as I will relish the idea of us being able to giving you constant misery. You make Stavros look like a paragon of virtue and that is quite an achievement.
Do you honestly intend to convince anyone that this wasn't anything but a transparent attempt to bait Javi and then blow it up out of proportion?
And to the other idiots in this thread:
We play a game where people are allowed to virtually lie, cheat, steal and murder. But you fools think insulting is a grave offence? Do you hide indoors your entire lives and not go out into society? I insult my friends daily to their face and we all laugh at it. If things like this distress you then you suck at the internet. Save everyone the trouble and disconnect your computer.
However, if you are truly deeply bothered by this I propose a solution:
Everyone who is unable to take an insult like a mature individual should join a single corporation in EVE named "Wuss". The Wuss corp will then be shipped off into Jove space where all their contact will be with NPC AI that don't say anything. They will not be allowed to post in the forums to protect them from being emotionally scarred by harsh words. And then the next prints of the EVE box will have an additional requirement: for intelligent individuals only.
I apologize for sounding harsh but this lame attempt is comedically ridiculous. If anyone else has any beef with Evolution come to us and we'll take care of destroying you for you. If you don't have what it takes to survive then take a hint now and stay away.
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Totalis Orange
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Posted - 2003.11.21 01:27:00 -
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I think this is lame.
I think it's lame GAC is so obsessed over a game that he spend 3 days harassing people who podded him.
I think it's lame that a corp files a petition for someone who is mad(rightfully so) becuase he got podded. You kill someone there's consequences. Isn't that how the game works?
I think it's lame that someone files a petition for such a stupid conversation like we see in the link. That's like 9 year olds arguing.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.21 01:38:00 -
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Of course it's lame. But you have little choice when someone uses a worthless account to abuse the game mechanics in order to lower your security rating. I can't say I'm surprised. This is to be expected since GAC is an alt of someone in m0o.
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Cyrus Bishop
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Posted - 2003.11.21 02:23:00 -
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We play a game where people are allowed to virtually lie, cheat, steal and murder. But you fools think insulting is a grave offence? Do you hide indoors your entire lives and not go out into society?
You have to be able to see the difference Rebellion. I think it lies in the word "virtually", as in not real.
If people lied, cheated, stole from, and murdered my in real life on an everyday basis, then yes, I would jump with glee when someone decided to insult me instead. But, the difference is all these virual things aren't really happening, whereas attacking someones family can be very real indeed.
I don't really care one way or the other. He deserves his poddings, but probably not the commentary. I just couldn't let a statement like that go unmitigated.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.11.21 03:05:00 -
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The owner of GAC is not a m0o player, sorry to dissapoint you, its not hard to find out who he is... Sutty seemed to know...
Inspector Rebellion foiled again ¼_¼
Staveeeh!
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEE
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.21 03:17:00 -
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So it's now an attack?
If you will preach to me about the difference between real and virtual I will expect, no demand, that you be able to differentiate between insults that can be easily shrugged off and an "attack" that is substantial.
I will also demand that you be able to identify a lame attempt to cause a commotion from a legitimate grievance that has merit. This event is void in its inception because of intent and it is thus void in perpetuation.
Stav, I thought you had quit this game? Was the whole "I quit" debacle just another desire for attention? I wasn't surprised to find out that the GAC account was bought by someone from m0o several months ago, I won't be surprised if he is no longer in m0o, I would be surprised if it wasn't actually you. My faith in human nature lies in the trust that degeneracy only perseveres in select individuals.
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Pleazer
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Posted - 2003.11.21 03:23:00 -
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yep... a classic example of a pr stunt...
Gac>do shoot me 38+ times so i loose all my 2321 skillpoints, so i can go on the forum and make EVOL look bad, i will even make a sad story to go along with it so that people really feel sorry for me..*cough*SCAM*cough*
read his post again ppl... no frekin noob would use his tactics...38+ TIMES... thats unless it's a really really really really STUPID noob, lets hope he leaves eve before joining...RUS
if it was indeed the truth i wonder if it would ever reach the forums, it would be a case for the GM's and GAC, i personally would not lay my life out on the forums...
I just think EVOL should be happy to get the newest tech2 item ingame.. target pratice drone tech lvl 2 called "GAC", not the best drop, but it compensates for it by inventing stories that it posts on the forums...
Good luck GAC, you will need it!!!
Ps. I AM NOT AN ALT OF AN EVOL MEMBER!!! belive it or not, i dont give a ****!!!
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Falzone
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Posted - 2003.11.21 03:24:00 -
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Evol You guys are f**king losers calling a guys dad a child molestor you guys are all gonna die. And since i'm sure someones gonna say it yea i'm a thief but what i do is in game not attacking someone with remarks like that.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.21 03:36:00 -
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Edited by: Rebellion on 21/11/2003 03:37:49
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Evol You guys are f**king losers calling a guys dad a child molestor you guys are all gonna die. And since i'm sure someones gonna say it yea i'm a thief but what i do is in game not attacking someone with remarks like that.
Oh my! You threatened to kill us! I must call the police!
Falzone must be banned from EVE for making grave threats to our personal safety. This behavior cannot be tolerated.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.21 05:42:00 -
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I don't mean to burst your bubble Falzone (well actually I do) but worse things than this have been said to me in game by your new corp mates. Its all part of the smack talk experience and as well-adjusted adults we just kinda deal with it.
Angry people say silly things.
Provoked prople hit out.
Its all part of the human condition.
And frankly, yaa-boo-sucks! to political correctness in an adult game environment. Treachery and murder and slavery and drug abuse ... its all here in the background material.
How someone can roleplay a murdering little ****-psychopath and then be mortally-offended by mere words amazes me.
More cotton-wool for those delicate sensibilities lambkin?
PS.
Evolution dying? Are you going to "steal all their battleships" them to death monsieur Falzone?
(sorry couldn't resist)
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Sedsiss
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Posted - 2003.11.21 05:52:00 -
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I always find it funny when falzone acts high and mighty when everyone knows he ruined dozens of gamers hard work out of greed, hahaha. |
Deathwing
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Posted - 2003.11.21 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: Deathwing on 21/11/2003 07:32:44
Edited by: Deathwing on 21/11/2003 07:31:52
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I Have the mis-fortune of being podded by Evolution members. I was on route to update my clone, as I had not needed to in the past. I didnt realise that my clone was so basic. I lost my skill points and so the game is back to square one for me :(
I see several things wrong with this little statement.
1-If indeed you were on your way to update your clone, why would you fly around a bunch of battleships in your n00b ship when they are threatening to kill you? If anything this is a blatant tactical flaw by your part, and if anything you should be kicking yourself for being so careless.
2-I highly doubt you had a basic clone the first time you were killed, If you did, then since you are a master of the print screen button, perhaps you can take a screen pic of your death mail that tells us all how many skill points you lost?
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To exact my revenge I have been hitting their mining op with Gurilla tactics, Im now only a n00b, with a n00b ship, with my clone set in my home base. This now allows me to be a bit careless so I can keep hitting them again and again.
1-If you indeed are now a n00b in a n00b ship, then that is due to your own mislead ideas on how to exact revenge upon someone. Ideally when revenge is extracted, the person you are seeking vengeance upon ends up loosing something in some way, or something happens to them, now, I am not fully aware on how you intended to exact revenge on a fleet of battleship while in a n00b ship, but perhaps you are an even greater tactical genius then I take you for.
2-I am also not sure what you are hitting with your so called guerilla tactics. Ideally when one carries out a guerilla attack on an opponent, the idea is for it to be a ôsurpriseö attack, and for you to get in, hit them hard, and get out. What you sir are doing is what I like to call ôMeat Grinder Warfareö which became very famous during World War 1 when commanders used to send hundreds of troops running at machine gun emplacement. Ideally this is what you are doing, running at a fleet of battleships with no hope in the world of survival and achieving nothing.
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After a period of 2 days, they (evolution) filed a harrassment complaint against me! Im the one thats been victimised here, forced or tried to force out from my home. I have replied to the harrassment petiton with one of my own.
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Evolution has dropped to an all time LOW, they have now started to spout information about my parents and my life. I will post a link to a picture to explain more.
1-If you look at the technical definition of Harassment, then what you were doing was indeed harassment, both verbally and otherwise. You went into the local Chan of the system spammed it with quotes from some book no one cares about and annoyed people while they mined. While doing that, you took a n00b ship and repeatedly went into the belt people were mining in, and attempted to destroy cargo containers floating in space, an action which in itself is virtually impossible while a fleet of battleships are keeping an eye on them.
2-In these attacks you had nothing to loose because you were risking no assets in the attacks. Now I could run around the forum for 30 minutes pulling up the dozens of threads there are on this specific topic and how it was called grief play, but I wonÆt. All I have to say is when it was happening to everyone else, I seem to remember a lot of people ôdemandingö the devs do something about it and so forth, now you people seem to view it as a viable tactical move. Interesting is it not?
3-I do not see how anyone can solely focus in on the single comments of an individual and say that he is a bad person for saying those comments because they relate to real life. Anything you say to another person in Eve can be viewed like this and taken in the same regard as you folks have taken it. Any comment that can relate to real life in any way can be viewed as an OOG attack on someone. Again, I do not see how 80% of this community and complain about these comments, when I am willing to bet that when m0o was running around killing everyone, you probably sent them Eve-hate-mails to them and spouted off some pretty awful stuff in local to. Heck I can recall being called some pretty bad names, but like all things that happen in a game, I take it with a grain of salt. So please would the lot of you stop being hypocrites and sit down already.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2003.11.21 07:33:00 -
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4-It is virtually impossible for you to be the victim in this case, as there are no real victims here. For you to be the victim here, you would have to have had this happen to you without due cause, i.e. you would have to have flown into the system and have this verbal attack happen to you, before you were to able to irritate or annoy them in any way. Once you have harassed the other party in some way, you yourself can not claim harassment. It would be like you starting a bar fight, getting the crap kicked out of you, then trying to sue the person for doing it.
*sorry for double post, last point wouldnt fit in for some reason*
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.21 07:35:00 -
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Awww, the kittens.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.21 08:52:00 -
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Had to remove this. Bad Homo, Bad! - Orestes
i get crap like this from people all the time. leila was an ex m0o member, then tlbc, maybe cow too.
if i was like GAC there would be 20 threads up here crying about my hurt lil feelings, minus the part where i get podded.
if you can't take harsh words, then you need to do a few things:
1) don't ask for them
2) turn off your computer
3) turn off your tv
cry harder. |
Arkaine
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Posted - 2003.11.21 09:17:00 -
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I first heard about this thread almost a day ago and due to some hub problems, couldnt read it all day. As much as I heard about it from corp mates I assumed that something truly vile and degrading was said. I'm shocked after looking at that screenshot that one little comment is what all this fuss is about. As I see it- there are one of two things which probably happened here.
1- After days of harassment you knew somone would slip up and say something marginally harassing and you were going to try and burn them down with it.
2- You never made it to, much less through, high school if a thing like this disturbes you this much. Personally, I heard worse things in junio high and I truly wish you luck in your survival of the real world. Try not to put yourself in any position where you have a remote chance of being insulted and try to remember- the more you let them get to you the more they're going to feed off of it.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.21 09:19:00 -
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i didn't get edited for anything i said.
so ore, try "BAD LEILA, BAD!"
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Gunni
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Posted - 2003.11.21 09:21:00 -
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Had to remove this. Bad Homo, Bad! - Orestes
it wasnt that bad.. there was allmost no text.. its was mostly just **** homo **** f**** *** **...
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Viziam
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.21 09:24:00 -
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why did you ever let leile exist in your corp and say thigns like that, gunni?
i mean, that's pretty much the worst mouth ever to play this game, and she sucked at pvp to boot. |
Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2003.11.21 10:01:00 -
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Of course it's lame. But you have little choice when someone uses a worthless account to abuse the game mechanics in order to lower your security rating. I can't say I'm surprised. This is to be expected since GAC is an alt of someone in m0o.
First I have to salute GAC for waging a one man war and winning. The fact that Evol actually petitioned for harassment because he forced them to kill him still makes me laff.
GAC, get a thicker skin. This is a game and you will hear crude and lame trash talking in almost any game.
Evol, since when is it harassment to blow up unclaimed, jetisoned, cargo containers? Looks like you podded him, he got mad, he is getting even, and you have not come up with a stratgy to deal with him, so your resorting to doing the carebear shuffle with a petition.
Want to try explaining again how he forced you to kill him?
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.21 10:05:00 -
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anyone who thinks that cargo containers at an evol mining op are 'unclaimed' is stupid. plain and simple. |
Lu'cesha
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Posted - 2003.11.21 10:13:00 -
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anyone who thinks that cargo containers at an evol mining op are 'unclaimed' is stupid. plain and simple.
So it is indeed alright for pilots to blow up and steal other peaples cargo containers and ore but when it comes to Evolution it is harrassment
Grow up Homo, if you cant deal with the security status hits then make an alt to kill the other alt/n00b, but dont resort to verbal harrassment.
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2003.11.21 10:15:00 -
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anyone who thinks that cargo containers at an evol mining op are 'unclaimed' is stupid. plain and simple.
Gee, so CCP is stupid. Please read all the Dev, GM, Polaris comments to the many container thief threads. The common pirate reply was "use secure containers."
While I happen to not agree with CCP on this, I also think JIP camping is lame but CCP say that is not either. Looks to me like he is playing within the rule of the game as supported by CCP. Filing a harassment petition because he is now playing the part of an ore thief is lame.
Looks like your corp needs to develop an ingame strategy on how to deal with this without lowering your sec rating. Whining like a carebear just makes one of the better PvP corps in the game look lame.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.21 10:31:00 -
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Edited by: Homo Erectus on 21/11/2003 10:34:04
ill say it again.
anyone who thinks that containers ore is being dumped into at a mining op are unclaimed, is stupid.
he messed with our containers, he knew better, he got podded. he doesn't care that he got podded, he's just a stupid alt of someone that is obsessed with me enough to get a translation of the 1st Cor. 13 verse and paste it in local.
anyone who thinks that container's being used to dump ore ae unclaimed, is stupid, if that includes ccp, so be it.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.21 10:41:00 -
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The petition wasn't for the ore cans. I don't think he got any. The petition was to remove a pathological annoyance. We can kill him all day every day for the next three weeks, but do we really have to? Think of unsolicited email. Spam. It's an entirely permissible action in the SMTP architecture which is designed to deliver email for as long as it is sent. You can keep on deleting it, you can set up agents that automatically purge it but people should certainly be banned for it. If you have no problems with receiving spam then do give me your email address as I will refer you to some wonderful promos.
The petition was filed, Polaris saw the merit. If they did not agree with the validity of the harrassment complaint then that would be the end of it and we'd just keep on killing GAC for as long as he wanted to be killed.
As for our ore cans. Every ore can we have created in a system we are mining in is ours. No matter what CCP says, we say it is ours. The planets in the system, the moons, the asteroid belts, the very star are ours while we choose to hold it. Anyone is welcome to dispute that claim. But we will destroy you. And when that happens remember that we had already granted you the courtesy of warning you.
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2003.11.21 10:47:00 -
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Quote:
The petition wasn't for the ore cans. I don't think he got any. The petition was to remove a pathological annoyance. We can kill him all day every day for the next three weeks, but do we really have to? Think of unsolicited email. Spam. It's an entirely permissible action in the SMTP architecture which is designed to deliver email for as long as it is sent. You can keep on deleting it, you can set up agents that automatically purge it but people should certainly be banned for it. If you have no problems with receiving spam then do give me your email address as I will refer you to some wonderful promos.
The petition was filed, Polaris saw the merit. If they did not agree with the validity of the harrassment complaint then that would be the end of it and we'd just keep on killing GAC for as long as he wanted to be killed.
As for our ore cans. Every ore can we have created in a system we are mining in is ours. No matter what CCP says, we say it is ours. The planets in the system, the moons, the asteroid belts, the very star are ours while we choose to hold it. Anyone is welcome to dispute that claim. But we will destroy you. And when that happens remember that we had already granted you the courtesy of warning you.
Oh this is even lamer. We were taking sec hits having to kill someone so we did the carebear thing and got Polaris to make the bad man stop.
I dont disagree that they are your cans, but under the rules of the game, it is required for you to defend them. If you take a sec hit, then find another way like everyone else has to do.
Polaris - since you concurred with EVOL that someone shooting salvage is a valid petition, please put a stop to all container thieves.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.21 10:50:00 -
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miri, read harder.
here, ill quote what was already said, just for you.
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also, anyone who thinks this is about security status hits, is also stupid. reread.
ok, now i have a special site for you.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.11.21 10:52:00 -
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I dont disagree that they are your cans, but under the rules of the game, it is required for you to defend them. If you take a sec hit, then find another way like everyone else has to do.
You're right there.
Where you're not right is that if someone spams local over and over, purposefully harasses members and tries to be as annoying as possible for around three days, one of which is 9 hours straight, it is not harassment.
Coz it is.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Anssett
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Posted - 2003.11.21 10:56:00 -
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Edited by: Anssett on 21/11/2003 11:07:25
I not sure i understand why you are forced to kill him except by your pride.
He's wasn't stealing anything and he wasn't destroying/attacking anything.
All he was doing was coming back to the same region after being told to leave and if that means you have to keep killing him so be it. Its not like empty 0.3 systems are in short supply
If you ignore him what danger is he to your operations?
The smack talk/insults followed from your annoyance with him and to bring real-life insults into a game is totally unacceptable no matter how they were meant.
lol @ homo re:containers
Edit
Local chat can be ignored - you have your corp chat.
To the evolution memebers that posted after SirMolle, why? - He said all that needed to be said and in a professional manner - you've just made your corp look bad.
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.11.21 10:58:00 -
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I think this whole thread is based on two parties just not able to deal with their actions and the outcome in game. Evol, why petition about one guy coming out and exacting revenge for the loss of his ship and skills. I would have no problem doing such if I felt the need. If Evol didn't like the constant perstering by the guy then they should have moved on.
As for the comments posted by them, who cares its a game and as such any comments about family, friends, pets and mother in laws is not valid. They don't know you or your family so who cares anyone could say anything about me and my family and I wouldn't take it to heart.
I think its a case of 2 sides clashing and not having the maturity to resolve it in game. If you are not willing to compromise on either side then put up with what is dished out. Both have the chance to move on but choose to stay and cross paths.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Lu'cesha
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Posted - 2003.11.21 11:00:00 -
[100]
Quote:
Edited by: Homo Erectus on 21/11/2003 10:34:04
ill say it again.
anyone who thinks that containers ore is being dumped into at a mining op are unclaimed, is stupid.
he messed with our containers, he knew better, he got podded. he doesn't care that he got podded, he's just a stupid alt of someone that is obsessed with me enough to get a translation of the 1st Cor. 13 verse and paste it in local.
anyone who thinks that container's being used to dump ore ae unclaimed, is stupid, if that includes ccp, so be it.
also, anyone who thinks this is about security status hits, is also stupid. reread.
A lot of bad spelling there, didnt think that would ever happen for you 
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Fanatique D'Absinthe
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Posted - 2003.11.21 11:10:00 -
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Ok, time for my two bits (for what they're worth).
GAC -- As far as you having been podded by Evolution pilots and losing skill points. That's YOUR problem buddy. You should have kept a closer track on your skill points and your clone contract obligations. Deal with it and move on.
As far as Evolution filing a petition about you hitting their mining operations -- can you say carebear? As for MrFixit's comment about your father and "touching", the GM team needs to pull the plug on that boy's account. There was no need for that comment. |
Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.21 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Rebellion on 21/11/2003 11:27:25
This thread started dumb already. Now it's getting dumber because of the people who post commentary without bothering to understand the situation. I'm tempted to just treat all those that don't have a clue as KOS and get it over with.
Oh yeah, we're really carebears. The fluffy kind.
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Fanatique D'Absinthe
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Posted - 2003.11.21 11:33:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Fanatique D'Absinthe on 21/11/2003 11:44:16
Why Rebellion -- that's exactly what GAC is doing to you EVO clowns and more than a handful of you are paying for it with security hits. Maybe we should all follow EVO's shallow footprints and file a harassment petition? GAC has a right to disrupt EVO mining ops just like you clowns had the right to podkill him. Game mechanics right? Now he's using game mechanics against EVO and you folk file a harassment petition? LMAO! Talk about needing a cookie and a hug! HAR HAR!
Smack is smack, it's gonna happen -- nuff said. Some smack however stoops WAY below what's acceptable. The consensus of this string follows three lines:
1) GAC is whining about losing skill points and being podded. HIS BAD.
2) EVO is whining about GAC disrupting their mining ops AND files a harassment petition. EVO'S BAD.
3) MrFixit aka Javi drops an insult (from behind the anonymity that his ISP and this game affords him) that in RL would get him beat down so hard he'd stay on his couch for a coupla weeks. EVO'S BAD (he's flying your colors EVO boyz)
Mebbe you EVO folk need to lay off the cheese?
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Gunni
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Posted - 2003.11.21 11:35:00 -
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why did you ever let leile exist in your corp and say thigns like that, gunni?
i mean, that's pretty much the worst mouth ever to play this game, and she sucked at pvp to boot.
hehe... well... hes a nice guy when u get to know him... think that he was just ****ed and bored sitting in station 23/7 when u guys were camping the stations...
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.11.21 11:44:00 -
[105]
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Edited by: Rebellion on 21/11/2003 11:27:25
This thread started dumb already. Now it's getting dumber because of the people who post commentary without bothering to understand the situation. I'm tempted to just treat all those that don't have a clue as KOS and get it over with.
Oh yeah, we're really carebears. The fluffy kind.
Again proving how well you fools deal with situations!!!!
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.21 12:19:00 -
[106]
How we've handled things has worked well for the past year and will continue to work well in times to come.
Fanatique, you have ever been, if anything, a lot of wind and little substance. File a harrassment petition if you want. Nothing is preventing you from doing it.
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3) MrFixit aka Javi drops an insult (from behind the anonymity that his ISP and this game affords him) that in RL would get him beat down so hard he'd stay on his couch for a coupla weeks. EVO'S BAD (he's flying your colors EVO boyz)
Actually, I'm quite familiar with RL, such comments are usually shrugged off unless the one hearing them has a very short fuse and a small brain. If you seriously think such a comment would be cause for someone to actually be physically assaulted and injured and bedridden for several weeks then I guess you are one of those that would be bothered by it: short fuse, small brain.
GAC's little publicity stunt was designed to gain the support to those easily fooled. I can see that it has worked to some degree.
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2003.11.21 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: IcedBach Jr on 21/11/2003 12:23:51
 This thing GAC is doing is quite all right, I think Ill start doing it too. Evo makes me sick, arrogant bastards and the P.O.S that talked S. in local should be banned.
At GAC, stupid bastard not having a better clone, a basic of the game, maybe U have the skillpoints that match your gaming skills now.
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CubePusher
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Posted - 2003.11.21 12:31:00 -
[108]
Quote:
Edited by: Fanatique D'Absinthe on 21/11/2003 11:44:16
3) MrFixit aka Javi drops an insult (from behind the anonymity that his ISP and this game affords him) that in RL would get him beat down so hard he'd stay on his couch for a coupla weeks. EVO'S BAD (he's flying your colors EVO boyz
Have you seen anyone of us apologise for Javi? or even admit that he was wrong? No.
and why would we? is anyone as lame as this GAC guy worth all this attention? No.
So why are you giving it to him?
And you say putting in a petition against him is lame, to my mind its no lamer than his actions so it all evens out.
And to the insult itself, i seriously can't belive that so many people are so shocked by it. How sheltered are your lives that you find that comment so outragous? I had worse than that in my FIRST day in EVE.......if you really find it that distressing then you need to unplug and read a harry potter book or something because insults like that fly around everyday, like today for example :
[ 2003.11.21 03:48:07 ] Biff Steel > GsDaddy time to leave please
[ 2003.11.21 03:48:35 ] GsDaddy > i live here
[ 2003.11.21 03:49:00 ] Biff Steel > be warned, if we see you we will fire
[ 2003.11.21 03:49:42 ] GsDaddy > look m8 dont threaten me
[ 2003.11.21 03:49:56 ] Biff Steel > lol
[ 2003.11.21 03:50:07 ] GsDaddy > you know a guy named GAC?
[ 2003.11.21 03:50:16 ] CubePusher > oh christ not again
[ 2003.11.21 03:50:26 ] Biff Steel > if you would like to meet me some where we can talk face to face
[ 2003.11.21 03:50:32 ] GsDaddy > i'm not GAC
[ 2003.11.21 03:50:40 ] CubePusher > sure
[ 2003.11.21 03:50:50 ] GsDaddy > I'M HIS DADDY CAN'T YOU READ?!?!?!
[ 2003.11.21 03:51:10 ] GsDaddy > i heard u blokes said something about me touchin
[ 2003.11.21 03:51:11 ] CubePusher > lol whatever, talk to biff
[ 2003.11.21 03:52:15 ] GsDaddy > I AM NOT A MOLESTRA
[ 2003.11.21 03:52:24 ] Biff Steel > this is truely pathetic that someone can't find any more fun in playing EVE than this ........
[ 2003.11.21 03:53:03 ] GsDaddy > hahaha this gun sucks
[ 2003.11.21 03:53:10 ] EveJunkie > yeh lol
[ 2003.11.21 03:53:24 ] GsDaddy > YOU FOLKS ARE JUST A BUNCH OF NEWBIE PIRATES
[ 2003.11.21 03:53:46 ] GsDaddy > YOU THINK MIGHT MAKES RIGHT
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:06 ] Biff Steel > wait are we roleplaying or is this RL??
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:14 ] Biff Steel > confused
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:17 ] GsDaddy > HM
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:23 ] GsDaddy > REAL LIFE
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:27 ] GsDaddy > THIS IS CHAT
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:44 ] Maiwenn LeBesco > go die (ic)
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:44 ] GsDaddy > CHAT IS REAL LIFE PS I BET YOUR MOMMA DOES HORSES
see what im saying?
p.s
There was more to this but im not lame enough to edit the text and if i did post the rest unedited i'd be lucky not to get a warning myself.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.21 12:38:00 -
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You're certainly welcome to follow in his footsteps. I think people dislike our being frank that if you mess with us you get destroyed. It is to your advantage that you take our word for it. We spend a great amount of effort warning people before they commit suicide. If they do not heed that warning then you have fools like GAC who then self destruct. If you would be the bigger fool and follow him then that is your choice.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.11.21 12:49:00 -
[110]
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You're certainly welcome to follow in his footsteps. I think people dislike our being frank that if you mess with us you get destroyed. It is to your advantage that you take our word for it. We spend a great amount of effort warning people before they commit suicide. If they do not heed that warning then you have fools like GAC who then self destruct. If you would be the bigger fool and follow him then that is your choice.
You profess to be all powerful and pass on warnings of your actions before destroying someone. Yet as soon as someone decides to fight back you post a petition? I know he may be attacking you relentlessly with an alt and it is annoying but you guys being "ALL POWERFULL" should be able to deal with him without resorting to outside help?
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CubePusher
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Posted - 2003.11.21 12:56:00 -
[111]
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You profess to be all powerful and pass on warnings of your actions before destroying someone. Yet as soon as someone decides to fight back you post a petition? I know he may be attacking you relentlessly with an alt and it is annoying but you guys being "ALL POWERFULL" should be able to deal with him without resorting to outside help?
dude we killed him just short of 40 friggin times in ONE night!! I've got 5 of his corpse's in my hanger and i didnt even fire a shot. Oh and if GAC's still reading this i found out your corpse's are worth 100 times more than you .
Trouble is thats only 1 isk a piece.
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:02:00 -
[112]
So his paernts died, eh? :S
Anyway, JAvi/mrFixit till shouldn't have said those things, and GAC should have had a beter clone and control of himself.
Just keep it on this.
Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming! |
Flatliner
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:13:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Flatliner on 21/11/2003 13:16:49
Heh this thread should of been locked a few pages back.
Let me enlighten a lot of confused and I have to say silly folks who can't read the entire thread and get a real grasp of the situation.
Now then, let me see if I can sort that out.
The point is, it was me that took the security hits for repeatedly killing GAC.
Now then, am I bothered about the security loss, hrrrrm no. Those who know me, or know of me will know I have no problem with that at all.
This was not some kid going to get a clone, he made his clone at the system we are in, not a local there remember duhhh. So he could respawn there, clone activate and harrass.
So anyway he attacked an indy before I got there, after that it was target/lock/kill/pod.
Rinse that and repeat that for 3 days.
I was quite willing to kill the pathetic alt till doomsday, it made no difference to me at all.
Do you people see a pattern here?
I know im right in saying it's premeditated And, it took him 3 days pestering to make 1 bad comment in local from one of our members, then what do we see. Mass flames on forum.
If people are pushed and pestered long enough, they will lash out. That is a simple fact of the game. Could you last 3 days of the same thing?
P.S: When we did lock him down, he just self destructed, got a new n00b ship and came back.
Read what I posted very carefuly.
Flatliner.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:13:00 -
[114]
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dude we killed him just short of 40 friggin times in ONE night!! I've got 5 of his corpse's in my hanger and i didnt even fire a shot. Oh and if GAC's still reading this i found out your corpse's are worth 100 times more than you .
Trouble is thats only 1 isk a piece.
Could you not have locked him down when he came out looking. I am sure it wouldn't have been too hard with him in a frigate. After a short time he would have got bored of not being able to do anything and left you alone?
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Godless
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:26:00 -
[115]
Will someone please put this thread out of its misery.
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:29:00 -
[116]
*hands Godless a .45*
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:35:00 -
[117]
Edited by: sutty on 21/11/2003 14:37:26
OK ILL TYPE IN CAPS AND MAYBE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND. WE JUST DIDN'T KILL GAC BECAUSE WE WANTED TO, WE KILLED GAC BECAUSE HE WARPED TO OUR ASTROID BELT AND STARTED MOVING AROUND OUR BATTLESHIPS WE ASKED HIM TO LEAVE HE DIDN'T. SO WE MADE HIM LEAVE. HE COME BACK AND BACK INFACT HE COME BACK OVER 50 TIMES WHICH CAN BE SEEN BY THE AMMOUNT OF CORPSES WE HAVE OF HIM. OVER A 9HR PERIOD WE PODDED HIM LIKE 38 TIMES DO YOU NOT THINK THAT IS A LITTLE EXTREME ? IN THE END WE HAD TO LOG ALTS TO KILL HIM.
HE WAS ALSO SPAMMING LOCAL WITH THE BIBLE OR SOMTHING AND HENSE WE PETITIONED, HE WAS ANNOYING.
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Avon
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:48:00 -
[118]
The fact that you guys had to run to mommy because some guy is annoying you is laughable.
If you don't want to listen to him, block him.
You already said he couldn't hurt you so just ignore him, he'll get bored.
Just deal with it.
Really, kids today!
ffs plz thx bye!
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:59:00 -
[119]
ok what ever, :) hope to see you in a low sec system soon :P
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Gunni
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Posted - 2003.11.21 15:19:00 -
[120]
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[ 2003.11.21 03:50:32 ] GsDaddy > i'm not GAC
[ 2003.11.21 03:50:40 ] CubePusher > sure
[ 2003.11.21 03:50:50 ] GsDaddy > I'M HIS DADDY CAN'T YOU READ?!?!?!
[ 2003.11.21 03:51:10 ] GsDaddy > i heard u blokes said something about me touchin
[ 2003.11.21 03:51:11 ] CubePusher > lol whatever, talk to biff
[ 2003.11.21 03:52:15 ] GsDaddy > I AM NOT A MOLESTRA
[ 2003.11.21 03:52:24 ] Biff Steel > this is truely pathetic that someone can't find any more fun in playing EVE than this ........
[ 2003.11.21 03:53:03 ] GsDaddy > hahaha this gun sucks
[ 2003.11.21 03:53:10 ] EveJunkie > yeh lol
[ 2003.11.21 03:53:24 ] GsDaddy > YOU FOLKS ARE JUST A BUNCH OF NEWBIE PIRATES
[ 2003.11.21 03:53:46 ] GsDaddy > YOU THINK MIGHT MAKES RIGHT
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:06 ] Biff Steel > wait are we roleplaying or is this RL??
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:14 ] Biff Steel > confused
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:17 ] GsDaddy > HM
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:23 ] GsDaddy > REAL LIFE
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:27 ] GsDaddy > THIS IS CHAT
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:44 ] Maiwenn LeBesco > go die (ic)
[ 2003.11.21 03:54:44 ] GsDaddy > CHAT IS REAL LIFE PS I BET YOUR MOMMA DOES HORSES
omg.. this is just way to funny... lmao...
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Nemesis Mythology
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Posted - 2003.11.21 15:35:00 -
[121]
Well seeing how everyone is putting in their 2 cents worth... here's mine.
I think most people can argue each other to death on who was right and who was wrong. From what I hear on both sides it's tit for tat. You kill him, he annoys you, you report him, he reports you blah blah blah.
But what most people are concerned about is personal attacks on someone's RL issues whether they be fact or fiction. If you hear someone say their parents died when they were 7 would you ask them "Are you lying?". You'd be polite and considerate nomatter what the circumstances were. (and don't give me cr@p about you get insulted personally all the time and you just let it go and move on. Did your parents die when you were 7?)
I think the way Javi handled it was of poor taste. He could have said something on the lines of "If what you say about your parents is true then I'm sorry. But I still think you're an annoying bla blah ...... " instead of carrying on with it. Let the GM's sort the rest out.
The least Javi could do was apologise for THE PERSONAL ATTACK. (not the other cr@p)
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.21 16:03:00 -
[122]
CCP would really be full of **** if they took Evolutions 'harrasment' petition floods seriously. I hope I can say that they won't, but I know better!
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Pann
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Posted - 2003.11.21 16:19:00 -
[123]
Matters of harassment should be filed as petitions, not slapped up on the public forums to get everyone all stirred up.
Discussion over.
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