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Inen Minmatar OLE Mining Corp Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2006.12.09 06:34:00 - [1] So I saw the new Revelations ship setup thread and they are not placing the old ones into the new one even for unchanged ships. Makes sense though. Anyways, I figured get one going for the claw cause I did not notice one here. Here is what I am thinking of using for PvP. 3 x 150mm II 1 x rocket launcher II 1 x fleeting warp scrambler 1 x afterburner II (sometimes I go into deadspace complexes) 1 x small armor repairer II 1 x micro auxillary power core 1 x 400mm rolled tungste plate 1 x capacitor power relay Any recommended changes? Sometimes I will use an MWD depending on the situation. Also not sure about replacing the rocket launcher with a nosferatu.
Vicious Phoenix	Posted - 2006.12.09 07:06:00 - [2] Thats the setup I used pre-Rev and it served me well, but with the Barrage tracking nerf and HP increase, I've found my Claw doesn't do anything well but tackle anymore (which a Stiletto is better at) CFW (Certified Forum Warrior) I kill people ingame too.
Phelan Lore Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.12.09 09:09:00 - [3] Here's all you need for claw setups... Use a stiletto for gang and a rifter for solo. Claw sucks a big one. Sniggwaffe is recruiting
SFX Bladerunner Bladerunners Mordus Angels	Posted - 2006.12.20 21:12:00 - [4] Originally by: Phelan Lore Here's all you need for claw setups... Use a stiletto for gang and a rifter for solo. Claw sucks a big one. no. it doesnt. imo its better than a stiletto... since you have 4 lowslots you can use to fit inertial stabs... for better speed. u can make a claw go 6000m/s+ with 3 good named inertial stabs.. and even faster with a weight reduction rig __________________________________________________ History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever..
Lyta Reimalken Minmatar	Posted - 2006.12.21 00:15:00 - [5] Meh, the Rifter does all the frigate sized combat I want, and for a substantially lower ISK risk than most other things. The Stilleto does the interceptor job better, so the question becomes, why fly the claw?
Angelus X Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.21 02:38:00 - [6] Originally by: Phelan Lore Here's all you need for claw setups... Use a stiletto for gang and a rifter for solo. Claw sucks a big one. How did you get into S******dly exactly?! -----
Felix Dzerzhinsky Pirates of Destruction Union	Posted - 2006.12.21 03:01:00 - [7] Originally by: Inen 3 x 150mm II 1 x rocket launcher II 1 x fleeting warp scrambler 1 x afterburner II (sometimes I go into deadspace complexes) 1 x small armor repairer II 1 x micro auxillary power core 1 x 400mm rolled tungste plate 1 x capacitor power relay The claw will outperform the Rifter under any situation. The ability for the Claw to dictate range and its low sig makes it a very fine killer. To put 400mm plates on the low is to fly the Claw like a rifter though, so I would go with an inertia stab to avoid damage rather then take damage. If I were to tank this beauty, then a damage control or an EANM would be better. In the end though, the Claw relies on speed to make its presensce known, something the Rifter can't do. If the Rifter is percived as being somehow better at whatever you are trying to do with the Claw, then the Jag or Wolf (I like the wolf, I love the Jag) would still be a better choise. . .But then again, we are talking about apples and oranges if thats the comparison.
Kashre Minmatar Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.21 03:07:00 - [8] Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky Originally by: Inen 3 x 150mm II 1 x rocket launcher II 1 x fleeting warp scrambler 1 x afterburner II (sometimes I go into deadspace complexes) 1 x small armor repairer II 1 x micro auxillary power core 1 x 400mm rolled tungste plate 1 x capacitor power relay The claw will outperform the Rifter under any situation. Except for situations in which you need a web and a scram... which is sad, but that's why God invented the Jaguar. the rifter is still more than adaquate for fleet/small gang tackling at a fraction of the price, on top of being much prettier to look at... so I still say the rifer is better unless you're running around solo. +++ "Etiquette is for the Dojo. In war there is only victory or death." - Eiji Yoshikawa
Phelan Lore Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.12.21 03:23:00 - [9] Edited by: Phelan Lore on 21/12/2006 03:24:26 Edited by: Phelan Lore on 21/12/2006 03:23:13 Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky Originally by: Inen 3 x 150mm II 1 x rocket launcher II 1 x fleeting warp scrambler 1 x afterburner II (sometimes I go into deadspace complexes) 1 x small armor repairer II 1 x micro auxillary power core 1 x 400mm rolled tungste plate 1 x capacitor power relay The claw will outperform the Rifter under any situation. The ability for the Claw to dictate range and its low sig makes it a very fine killer. You dictate your range without a web how? BTW, my rifter has the same HP, the same DPS as that and only lacks a rep. It's faster too. (AB II WTF?) If you're gonna be in a gang you want a stiletto for the extra mids and the ability to lock out to 30k if you are getting boosted by a claymore. The claw sucks. If you disagree, you suck too. Sniggwaffe is recruiting
Inen Minmatar OLE Mining Corp Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2006.12.21 05:51:00 - [10] Originally by: Phelan Lore Edited by: Phelan Lore on 21/12/2006 05:08:02 Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky Originally by: Inen 3 x 150mm II 1 x rocket launcher II 1 x fleeting warp scrambler 1 x afterburner II (sometimes I go into deadspace complexes) 1 x small armor repairer II 1 x micro auxillary power core 1 x 400mm rolled tungste plate 1 x capacitor power relay The claw will outperform the Rifter under any situation. The ability for the Claw to dictate range and its low sig makes it a very fine killer. (AB II on an inty LOL) WTB MWD that works in deadspace complexes or "My ABC's" skill book for Phelan Lore to realize that I specifically mentioned that this Claw is used to PvP within a deadspace complex. But ah well, these are the Eve-O forums so not unexpected.
Phelan Lore Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.12.21 06:11:00 - [11] Your setup says (sometimes I go into deadspace). If your setup is specifically for deadspace you should have speed mods and not a plate/rep in your lows as you will have precious little time to tackle anything in deadspace. Since your setup is designed for general PvP, the fitting of an AB on an inty is laughable. Whether or not you sometimes go into deadspace is irrelivant. You should fit a MWD and carry an AB for those rare occasions that you enter deadspace. Sniggwaffe is recruiting
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.12.21 06:34:00 - [12] Originally by: Phelan Lore Edited by: Phelan Lore on 21/12/2006 05:08:02 Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky Originally by: Inen 3 x 150mm II 1 x rocket launcher II 1 x fleeting warp scrambler 1 x afterburner II (sometimes I go into deadspace complexes) 1 x small armor repairer II 1 x micro auxillary power core 1 x 400mm rolled tungste plate 1 x capacitor power relay The claw will outperform the Rifter under any situation. The ability for the Claw to dictate range and its low sig makes it a very fine killer. You dictate your range without a web how? BTW, my rifter has more HP, more DPS, and is faster (AB II on an inty LOL) than that setup. It also has a web and can lock out to 27km. If you're gonna be in a gang you want a stiletto for the extra mids and the ability to lock out to 30k if you are getting boosted by a claymore. The claw sucks. If you disagree, you suck too. Claw has more low slots, which means better support. Whatever you have fitted to your rifter will fit better on the claw. Not only that, it will have more speed and more DPS than your rifter. Your rifter has one bonus the claw doesn't have. 1 extra mid slot for a webber. WoW........... Webbers are key yes, they have a great purpose in pvp. Especialy when tackling and dog fighting. However, don't get it twisted in saying the Claw sucks. Group wise, stilleto's are cool but if you want the DPS you go claws. Not every claw needs a warp scrambler or disruptor in there second mid slot. Where you lack web support someone else makes it up. Claw is there for the speed and raw damage of its 10% bonus. Find it funny you failed to see that. Last thing on the web issues that you're claiming makes the claw suck. Ever herd of using there range against them? Frig fights really don't last that long. Having no web isn't that bad of a factor if your target is close range too. That means, just like you. He has to orbit or approuch you at extream ranges to dish out there damage. None the less, that makes the point that MWD might not even been needed in the first place. Hence the jaggerbomb video of the oversized plat, web, and warp scrambler combo. Gogogo insta gate-to-gate combat. I agree with the BoB guy on his comment Vile - Recruiting Pirates
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.12.21 06:38:00 - [13] Originally by: Phelan Lore Edited by: Phelan Lore on 21/12/2006 05:08:02 Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky Originally by: Inen 3 x 150mm II 1 x rocket launcher II 1 x fleeting warp scrambler 1 x afterburner II (sometimes I go into deadspace complexes) 1 x small armor repairer II 1 x micro auxillary power core 1 x 400mm rolled tungste plate 1 x capacitor power relay The claw will outperform the Rifter under any situation. The ability for the Claw to dictate range and its low sig makes it a very fine killer. You dictate your range without a web how? BTW, my rifter has more HP, more DPS, and is faster (AB II on an inty LOL) than that setup. It also has a web and can lock out to 27km. If you're gonna be in a gang you want a stiletto for the extra mids and the ability to lock out to 30k if you are getting boosted by a claymore. The claw sucks. If you disagree, you suck too. Omg you sound so smart Ever heard of ''the fasterone can dictate range?'' find a way to fit arties, fly outside 10km, whatever. Your rifter can lock out to 27km? but I thought your web was your everything so you only need to lock out to 10km right =) If your rifter has more dps then your claw you really need to change your claw fit, that's just stupid Refit, don't tell people they're stupid because you mistaked a mirror for a window
Phelan Lore Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.12.21 06:50:00 - [14] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Claw has more low slots, which means better support. Whatever you have fitted to your rifter will fit better on the claw. Well except for a webber. Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Not every claw needs a warp scrambler or disruptor in there second mid slot. Where you lack web support someone else makes it up. Claw is there for the speed and raw damage of its 10% bonus. Find it funny you failed to see that. You're really just dead weight if you bring a claw to a gang simply for DPS. If you want to do DPS there are plenty of other things that you could bring that would be more useful. Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri None the less, that makes the point that MWD might not even been needed in the first place. Hence the jaggerbomb video of the oversized plat, web, and warp scrambler combo. Gogogo insta gate-to-gate combat. Drunk flew the jaegerbomb in the era before dictors. It would be a stupid setup to use today. Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri I agree with the BoB guy on his comment YARRRR!! I seemed to make your Rapier dead just fine. Sniggwaffe is recruiting
Phelan Lore Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.12.21 06:53:00 - [15] Edited by: Phelan Lore on 21/12/2006 06:53:43 Originally by: Deathbarrage Ever heard of ''the fasterone can dictate range?'' find a way to fit arties, fly outside 10km, whatever. Your rifter can lock out to 27km? but I thought your web was your everything so you only need to lock out to 10km right =) Because it's impossible to track with Arties while orbiting between 10k and your max lock range. If the claw had a reasonable lock range, long range would be an option. You could gang with a claymore or fit a faction scram and orbit at a range where your arties might hit. Unfortunately the claw has an 18km base lockrange. Sniggwaffe is recruiting
Slayton Ford Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.12.21 07:32:00 - [16] Why are you debating a Tech1 frig (Rifter; which is a great ship) vs a Tech2 Frig? A fair debate is a Wolf/Jag vs a Claw.
Kal'Kalagan Takahashi Syndicate Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.12.21 10:24:00 - [17] Edited by: Kal''Kalagan on 21/12/2006 10:25:29 I agree with Phelan Lore on this debate. A Stileto is excellent in gangs but not much good for anything solo especially in frig 1v1's. The Claw has excellent DPS and 4 lows give it excellent adaptability but with only 2 mids you cannot solo in it, especailly vs other frigs. Problems - Cannot fit a web/scram Jaggerbond setup, in the age of interdictors this is plain suicide. - You can only fit web or scram so for gate-to-gate combat anyone with 1/2 a brain will be able to escape. - You can't use speed to dictate range in frig combat as arties have god awful tracking, only a Crow can truly do this. Then you come to the Rifter. If you are careful and engage under the right circumstances a properly setup Rifter can kill most ceptors without having to fit especially. The exceptions are a blaster ranis and a Claw. The later can be ignored in solo combat because as mentioned above they cannot web and scram you at the same time, therefore you cannot be forced to engage. The Blaster ranis is the only inty a Rifter truly has to fear and even then if you fit especially for them you should be able to take one down.
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.12.21 11:16:00 - [18] i tend to agree with phelan and think the claw is just lacking one slot to be very good. i really like the claw, and it works well in teams, but since i prefer solo most of the time i <3 jaguar. 400mm setup on a claw kicks ass, but a jaguar can kill it as it can fit a web. *Before complaining about any ship try flying Minmatar*
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:27:00 - [19] Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 21/12/2006 17:27:35 Originally by: Phelan Lore Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri None the less, that makes the point that MWD might not even been needed in the first place. Hence the jaggerbomb video of the oversized plat, web, and warp scrambler combo. Gogogo insta gate-to-gate combat. Drunk flew the jaegerbomb in the era before dictors. It would be a stupid setup to use today. Now we are talking about something totaly different. Might as well add cruisers, recons, and hacs in that useless statement. Those were there before as well. Picking your targets as always. Originally by: Phelan Lore Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri I agree with the BoB guy on his comment YARRRR!! I seemed to make your Rapier dead just fine. Key thing to highlight here. It's not you. It's you and him. Day people solo is the day I quit eve. :P Vile - Recruiting Pirates
Phelan Lore Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.12.21 20:27:00 - [20] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Now we are talking about something totaly different. Might as well add cruisers, recons, and hacs in that useless statement. Those were there before as well. Picking your targets as always. No, cruisers, recons, and HACs aren't dead for solo, its only ships that fail to fit a MWD. As long as you have a MWD you can microwarp back to the gate and survive in most cases. Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Key thing to highlight here. It's not you. It's you and him. Day people solo is the day I quit eve. :P You tried to ambush me, you got ambushed back. That's the way the cookie crumbles. If I used a ship that could kill you solo you wouldn't have decloaked. Sniggwaffe is recruiting
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.12.21 20:35:00 - [21] I really wanted to love my Claw, but it seems the inty skill is just a stepping stone to a beautiful Sabre ;) ---------------------------- Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY WTB: Friggin' portrait
Nir The Doldrums	Posted - 2006.12.21 20:42:00 - [22] Claw is a dogfighter and it will wtfpwn any other Interceptor and some AFs 1v1 with a decent fitting. I don't see why you would fly one in gangs though, nobody picks a frigate to do damage in gangs anymore. Even if they're the roaming, fast moving type of gangs. We have iStabs nowadays which make MWD Cruisers faster and nimbler than Jesus in a pink tracksuit.
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.12.21 21:23:00 - [23] Originally by: Nir Claw is a dogfighter and it will wtfpwn any other Interceptor and some AFs 1v1 with a decent fitting. Except the Taranis, the Crow, and possibly one of the Amarr ones... hee, just kidding about that last one ;) And if you die to a Claw in an AF, it's indeed a sad day. ---------------------------- Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY WTB: Friggin' portrait
Litus Arowar Amarr Obsidian Asylum Pure.	Posted - 2006.12.22 03:29:00 - [24] Originally by: Nir Claw is a dogfighter and it will wtfpwn any other Interceptor and some AFs 1v1 with a decent fitting. I don't see why you would fly one in gangs though, nobody picks a frigate to do damage in gangs anymore. Even if they're the roaming, fast moving type of gangs. We have iStabs nowadays which make MWD Cruisers faster and nimbler than Jesus in a pink tracksuit. I'll take your claw in my crusader... and I won't even fit a plate Albert Anastacia> Like they say, adapt or die. I adapted and now I get to Iwinbutton all over everyones face.
Mortuus Minmatar Just-fun	Posted - 2006.12.22 04:09:00 - [25] Aww the Claw. IF you have problems killing a Taranis, Crow or either Amarr inty, well, you need to look at your Claw fitting. Mine works just fine, you just need to pick your targets and not go after close range AF's. However, in the age of Inertial Stabs, I still prefer my Jaguar. The Claw has a lot of advantages, just need to learn to use them. Much like every Minmatar ship thats not a Bellicose or a Breacher. ex-Occassus Republica <3
Nordvargr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.12.22 06:59:00 - [26] I'd love to join in on the fight but I've never actually flown an AC claw for the reasons Phelan already stated. However I do dearly love the arty claw, staying out of web range means you don't need a web and being very fast pays off when you are kiting which is why a rifter just can't compare. 17km lock range gets annoying but I deal with it. It's no crow, but if you have good navigation skills, know what you are doing, and have a good reaction time you can kite anything, even intys. Leaving your MWD on is never an option because of the **** cap, tracking issues, etc but if you go all speed mods you will be the fastest inty out there. Crusaders might get better speed but they tend to fit tracking enhancers and CPRs over speed mods so the claw comes out faster than the rest.
Julian Lynq	Posted - 2007.01.20 18:49:00 - [27] Originally by: Nordvargr I'd love to join in on the fight but I've never actually flown an AC claw for the reasons Phelan already stated. However I do dearly love the arty claw, staying out of web range means you don't need a web and being very fast pays off when you are kiting which is why a rifter just can't compare. 17km lock range gets annoying but I deal with it. It's no crow, but if you have good navigation skills, know what you are doing, and have a good reaction time you can kite anything, even intys. Leaving your MWD on is never an option because of the **** cap, tracking issues, etc but if you go all speed mods you will be the fastest inty out there. Crusaders might get better speed but they tend to fit tracking enhancers and CPRs over speed mods so the claw comes out faster than the rest. Could you outline your claw fitting ?
Julian Lynq	Posted - 2007.01.20 19:26:00 - [28] my idea after reading through the thread: 3x 150mm II 1x RL 1x scrambler 1x mwd 1x capacitor power relay 1x small armor repper II 2x inertia stabs the idea: - mwd used to approach and escape, or break the fighting pace - left offline during fight so that the turrrets hit. - cap power relay for the armor repper when needed. - intertia stabs so it flys quick enough without the mwd. problem: - missiles... ? any idea on this ? does this make sence ?
Montero Kemono.	Posted - 2007.01.20 19:48:00 - [29] 3x150mm t2,small nos (knave for pg) mwd t2, x5 web small rep t2, gyro t2, DB/TS kinetic plating, 200mm RT This is how to fit an auto claw. --------- Scrapheap Challenge
Julian Lynq	Posted - 2007.01.20 20:35:00 - [30] Originally by: Montero 3x150mm t2,small nos (knave for pg) mwd t2, x5 web small rep t2, gyro t2, DB/TS kinetic plating, 200mm RT This is how to fit an auto claw. but thats a gang setup with the webifier, right ?

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