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RedeyeAce
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Posted - 2007.03.15 10:34:00 -
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/Signed
Some Dev heads up would be nice.. even a mmmm yeh considering it
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Okapir
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Posted - 2007.03.15 12:14:00 -
[92]
/signed
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Okapir
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Posted - 2007.03.15 12:15:00 -
[93]
/signed
Oh! and with faction/named variants please
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Ruato
Gallente
Gurgleblaster Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.15 13:07:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Ruato on 15/03/2007 13:04:08
 Originally by: Xcom
Edited by: Xcom on 25/01/2007 09:16:10
Originally by: Ruato
That suggestion is missing some stuff (how to select drones, drone stats, and so on...)
But fear not, i have better one.
I have many times gone through your suggestion. I just have to say that this idea is not a good improvement. It just gives a very bad twist into drone usage. Examples to why:
1. There is no good way of displaying the drone health bars. ItÆs vitally important to see your drones health bar. If your drones start to take dmg you have to see this and start to scoop them.
2. The grouping of this new UI seams like a project. It gives me a haddock to think of how to group the drones. Worse, what if you have to group them in mid combat? If I lose a drone from that group. In mid combat I have to select drag drop or change this grouping or use a workaround that you suggested. Witch is unnecessary compared to the current system.
The current overview system is very useful in that manner. The only problem with it is that itÆs laggy and itÆs taking up space in overview that can be used for other things. This can easily be resolved by having it removed from overview and placed in a new window by itself.
3. Witch one do you think is easier to program? The entire new redesign of the UI or improvements on the old one. Simpler is always better.
Didnt notice this reply until now, but better late than never... :p
Anyways...
1. I personally dont keep drone hit points visible at all (with current drone UI). But if you want to watch drone HP, why not expand the drone group, its displayed there. It eats way too much space from the overview to display drone condition atm.
2. Actually its no hassle at all. You group drones before you leave the station. And if you want to replace dead drone, simply use oversized groups (put, for example, 8 drones in the group and hit launch again when drone bites the dust). Or select another group and hit launch and drone gets replaced from another group. Or if you only carry one type of drones (for example 10 hammerhead I's), you dont need to group them at all, because ungrouped drones are displayed as separate group.
3. Programming is not an issue here. They already have that bubbly UI in place (modules), they just need to add new bubbles for drone groups and commands and link drone commands to those UI elements.
If you want simpler, all drone commands need to be near eachothers, not in 2 different places and 2 different UI components. 2 separate drone UI components just mean that overview is still as crowded as it ever was, and it just adds unecessary mouse travel when operating the UI.
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Lezreth
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.15 13:56:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Ruato
Edited by: Ruato on 15/03/2007 13:04:08
Originally by: Xcom
Edited by: Xcom on 25/01/2007 09:16:10
Originally by: Ruato
That suggestion is missing some stuff (how to select drones, drone stats, and so on...)
But fear not, i have better one.
I have many times gone through your suggestion. I just have to say that this idea is not a good improvement. It just gives a very bad twist into drone usage. Examples to why:
1. There is no good way of displaying the drone health bars. ItÆs vitally important to see your drones health bar. If your drones start to take dmg you have to see this and start to scoop them.
2. The grouping of this new UI seams like a project. It gives me a haddock to think of how to group the drones. Worse, what if you have to group them in mid combat? If I lose a drone from that group. In mid combat I have to select drag drop or change this grouping or use a workaround that you suggested. Witch is unnecessary compared to the current system.
The current overview system is very useful in that manner. The only problem with it is that itÆs laggy and itÆs taking up space in overview that can be used for other things. This can easily be resolved by having it removed from overview and placed in a new window by itself.
3. Witch one do you think is easier to program? The entire new redesign of the UI or improvements on the old one. Simpler is always better.
Didnt notice this reply until now, but better late than never... :p
Anyways...
1. I personally dont keep drone hit points visible at all (with current drone UI). But if you want to watch drone HP, why not expand the drone group, its displayed there. It eats way too much space from the overview to display drone condition atm.
2. Actually its no hassle at all. You group drones before you leave the station. And if you want to replace dead drone, simply use oversized groups (put, for example, 8 drones in the group and hit launch again when drone bites the dust). Or select another group and hit launch and drone gets replaced from another group. Or if you only carry one type of drones (for example 10 hammerhead I's), you dont need to group them at all, because ungrouped drones are displayed as separate group.
3. Programming is not an issue here. They already have that bubbly UI in place (modules), they just need to add new bubbles for drone groups and commands and link drone commands to those UI elements.
If you want simpler, all drone commands need to be near eachothers, not in 2 different places and 2 different UI components. 2 separate drone UI components just mean that overview is still as crowded as it ever was, and it just adds unecessary mouse travel when operating the UI.
I agree completely with both of you. All I have to add is that no matter what happens, they need to make the commands for both suggestions bindable to keyboard keys.
Technically speaking if the commands (attack/return) were bindable to a hotkey, it wouldn't matter where the buttons were placed on the UI.
/signed
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Andre Coeurl
Gallente
Mextora
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Posted - 2007.03.15 14:11:00 -
[96]
/signed 
(meaning the general fact that drones interface needs dramatic improvement)
But in the meanwhile a big step without too many programing and UI issues, would be to give some grouping management and keyboard shortcuts, still keeping all functions inside the overview as they are.
Main point would be to group the drones, so that they'll act as a group unless you specifically select a single one, and giving shortcuts (shift-F1/4) to the drones' functions (launch, engage, orbit, return to bay).
I hope the devs will find time to do this, IMHO it would be great! 
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Einar Matveinen
Gallente
Saisio Fleet Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.15 15:17:00 -
[97]
/signed
Drone users need a better interface, i think drones are a main weapon, equal to turrets and missiles. Smartbombs users have better interfaces than drone users!!
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Quivox Alkar
ORUS Corporate
United Corporations of Eve
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Posted - 2007.03.15 15:41:00 -
[98]
Yes!
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Tuschii
Pirates of Destruction Union
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Posted - 2007.03.15 16:47:00 -
[99]
/signed
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Ariya Arnaud
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Posted - 2007.03.15 19:50:00 -
[100]
/signed
And can they please fix the bugs?
Bug 1) Drones refuse to return and dock.
Bug 2) Large drones get stuck on each other and their top speed becoems about 10 m/s. Only way around it is to send one off towards another target, provided you have one available.
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Caedicus
Minmatar
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.03.15 22:23:00 -
[101]
/signed
The current drone interface is just plain horrible.
If CCP keeps touting Eve has a "sophisticated hardcore" game, then we should be able to have more options for controlling our drones. Or even better, we could actaully have the ability to create basic scripts for our drones.
Evolution in Eve:
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xisP3
Gallente
Pod Killing Machines
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Posted - 2007.03.17 01:25:00 -
[102]
New patch. Nothing on drones. Again. |
OMGWTFBBQHAXNOOB
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Posted - 2007.03.20 21:11:00 -
[103]
/signed
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Noxious89123
Gallente
Sheik's Suicide Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.03.20 21:12:00 -
[104]
Sorry...
Bleh, stupid alt.
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Poba
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Posted - 2007.04.04 17:19:00 -
[105]
/SIGNED
I wonder how many people we need agreeing with this till it gets implimented 
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D3a7h
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Posted - 2007.04.05 00:45:00 -
[106]
SIGNED!!!!
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Civ Ilization
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Posted - 2007.04.12 14:57:00 -
[107]
/signed
Eve is a game, not a profession... |
Okapir
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Posted - 2007.04.18 12:01:00 -
[108]
Thought this would be a good idea? So I thought I would support it, not sure how to though?
I reserve the right to change my boss!
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Novacek
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:36:00 -
[109]
/signed
and i dont even use drones that much but if i could go f8 and all my drones attacked... man it would be sweet
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Katerina Torrentae
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Posted - 2007.04.19 08:36:00 -
[110]
bump
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yani Ledliv
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Posted - 2007.04.19 10:53:00 -
[111]
/signed
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Sadist
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:44:00 -
[112]
/signed
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Quote:
- Numbers alone do not win a battle
- No, but I bet they help.
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Ilmonstre
M. Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:52:00 -
[113]
/signed
this would be a very nice change
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Vensa Heckler
Clarf Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.19 12:05:00 -
[114]
sounds like a nice idea
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law |
Atomic Atty
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Posted - 2007.04.19 13:16:00 -
[115]
while "not implemented"
do
/sign
loop
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Vitrael
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Posted - 2007.04.19 21:27:00 -
[116]
The current drone UI is a joke, even a child can see that.
/signed
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Rogue Slave
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Posted - 2007.04.20 13:52:00 -
[117]
W/O reading ALL of this thread - I completely agree. Just like the pic, devs, please take as much of the bs out of the overview as you can. It just plain becomes unmanagable with a gang and squad and drones etc.
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Lukas Rox
Torchwood Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:50:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Atomic Atty
while "not implemented"
do
/sign
loop
while (!newdroneUI.implemented()) {
cout << "/sign";
}
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Sieges
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Posted - 2007.04.23 18:21:00 -
[119]
/signed - great idea.
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prathe
Minmatar
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.23 18:41:00 -
[120]
/signed - genius
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