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Quara Terranas
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Posted - 2006.12.10 03:41:00 -
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I don't know the first thing about World of Warcraft and was wondering if anyone had any noob suggestions? :\
I've read over the "getting started" section of their site while waiting for the HUGE (3.5G) installer to download and everything seems to be easy-cheesy clicky and kill grind-fest lineage 2 like in nature.
Just wondering what race/class to go with as a total noob?
What should I look out for?
I own 4 eve accounts and have played eve for 3 years. No, I'm not leaving eve and you cannot have my stuff. I just need a break is all and have set my chars on looong skill training while I'm "away". And yes, this IS an alt to prevent massive LOL eve-mails from ppl I know. 
If this whole WoW thing doesn't work out, are their any other mmo's out there worth playing?
I've tried EQ2 and Lineage 2 already. They were both good games but lacking that little "something" to make me stay for more than a month.
Any ideas?
Thanks a ton.
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Tarquin Tarquinius
Gallente Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.10 03:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 10/12/2006 03:53:26
Don't (install WoW that is)
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Quara Terranas
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Posted - 2006.12.10 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 10/12/2006 03:53:26
Don't (install WoW that is)

lol You are certainly not the only person I expect to hear this from.
I also have my reservations about doing it. Almost like walking off a cliff knowing full well the consequences.
I just have to see if it is really as bad as everyone says it is... Or if it is really as good as everyone else says it is. Or just some place in between.
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Blind Man
Kemono.
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Posted - 2006.12.10 04:04:00 -
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i had played the beta, and 2-3 trails, a few weeks ago i did buy it and got to like lvl 36, couldnt do much of anything without help, and got bored 
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Quara Terranas
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Posted - 2006.12.10 04:06:00 -
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After going through a 3.5G installer download, I now have to download a 500M patch.
And to think I actually *****ed about eve's (now tiny) 600M installer... 
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Zomiaen
Gallente Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.10 04:10:00 -
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Edited by: Zomiaen on 10/12/2006 04:10:13 Ok this is how you start, find the installation file. Now, do exactly as I say.
Now, find EVE, open it, log on, continue playing. _________________________
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.12.10 04:27:00 -
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unplug your computer from the internet!
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Redart
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Posted - 2006.12.10 04:44:00 -
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If you wish to have an enthralling adventure of doing the same repetitive task over and over, playing for hours on end every day, in which time not a single thought has gone through your head...
Play WoW. -------- Matt @ GorgeousGamers.com
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pushdogg
Minmatar The BlackSail Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.10 04:45:00 -
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you really chose the wrong forum, goto the wow forums, as the very site of the word wow makes me very angry
Originally by: Soul Harvestor You're an idiot.
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Vivi pk
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.12.10 04:57:00 -
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The game isn't clicky cheesy, u can have every item basically binded to a mouse key or keyboard key.
The game is ok, but your going to be waaayyy behide when the expansion comes out in jan. -------.v.-------
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Game Set
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Posted - 2006.12.10 07:06:00 -
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Do yourself a favor and quit a week after you hit 60
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.10 07:08:00 -
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Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 10/12/2006 07:08:15 No advice - just remember, EVE'll be here for you when you return .
Just don't tell your corpies what you're up to .
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dennyreborn
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Posted - 2006.12.10 07:12:00 -
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Steps from us on Wow 1. don't install wow
if this doesn't work proceed to step 2
2.go to WoW Forums and ask them watch as WoW losers call you names and otherwise make a arse out of themselves.
if this doesn't work proceed to step 3
3. realize you don't really want to play with immature little twits and open up EVE.
Look been to WoW land it sucks. if you must go fantasy I recommend Lineage II the PVP is 10X better. eve is 100X better then WoW PVP but at least in lineage dieing has penalties and you can fight just about anywhere outside of town.
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Border201
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.10 07:28:00 -
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Give it a try if you'd like I wouldn't recommend it I tried playing it (yea yea leave me alone) got to 39.5 and just couldn't push myself to get to lvl 40 to earn my mount and "have the real game start" It's fun at first there is no question but you'll get to a point where you'll say "enough is enough how about some veriaty" for me it was after about 5 weeks of playing.
Originally by: Tuxford once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments
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Kyozoku
Loot
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Posted - 2006.12.10 08:45:00 -
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Don't bother you'll regret wasting time on it. Do something more constructive like reading a book Flying a kite or making love to a hairless filipino man.
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HolographicEntrypoint
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.10 09:00:00 -
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Every class has its use lateron... Paladin is most noobfriendly. btw. the key to actually having fun in WoW is finding some nice mates. ---
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Qece
Gallente Dead End Zeroes
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Posted - 2006.12.10 09:03:00 -
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As someone who still has 2 active WoW accounts I can say that although I'm thoroughly sick of it there are some things that WoW does very well.
It allows you to level fairly fast and the more you put in the more you get out. If you're a hardcore game-head then you'll succeed in WoW.
The key to enjoying the game is to play with RL friends or at least online friends who you can trust to not be douches. The entire fun experience for myself is generally ruined by the sheer retardedness that is General Chat (AKA Local) and the child-like community overall.
In EVE if someone were to ask you to create something for them that cost you nothing other than 20 seconds of your time I'd like to think that most of the community would do it. In WoW it's seen as a hinderance and most players will refuse to do that simple task.
For my money the only real challenge in WoW is to get into a guild which you like. After that the game itself is ok. The PvP system is a bit stupid and extremely imbalanced in some cases but it's instant. However, you can log in to WoW and be PvP'ing within seconds, literally.
After a couple of weeks at lvl 60 the PvE becomes redundant unless you're in a raiding guild, this actively made me stop playing as there's just no need for a healing class to PvP and as I only needed gear from raids I only logged in on raid nights.
If you're going to play WoW and give it your full attention I'd suggest getting to lvl 70 ASAP (doubtful you'll reach lvl 60 before the expansion hits on Jan 16th), get into a guild who have an age cap and a proper setup (forums, voice comms, leadership, goals etc) and then get into the raid instances. Be prepared to sacrifice many hours of your time to learning the PvE instances/events and then be prepared to sacrifice even more time waiting on fellow guildmates, preparing for fights after being wiped by retarded guildmates, watching your guild fail on events due to poor players and generally being hosed over by your "friends".
I'd say that WoW can be an extremely fun game if you can get into the right guild with the right balance of fun and dedication for you. If you don't wish to waste time then do not, and I'll repeat that, DO NOT play World of Warcraft as invariably your time WILL be wasted by other players.
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Verone
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.12.10 10:02:00 -
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Set fire to your computer and check into a detox clinic, you've obviously been drinking and smoking something not good for your health.
VETO FOR HIRE
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Tokar Lorell
Gallente Mercatoris Technologies
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Posted - 2006.12.10 10:10:00 -
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Edited by: Tokar Lorell on 10/12/2006 10:10:16
Originally by: dennyreborn 2.go to WoW Forums and ask them watch as WoW losers call you names and otherwise make a arse out of themselves.
if this doesn't work proceed to step 3
3. realize you don't really want to play with immature little twits and open up EVE.
2. You mean, like...how every other poster on the EVE forums makes an "arse" out of themselves and spams "GO PLAY WOW LAWL" when someone has even the slightest little complaint about EVE gameplay?
3. There aren't immature EVE twits?
X)
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Originally by: Joe Evertime i sell a mwd I unleash true pvp power?
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Decadent Diva
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Posted - 2006.12.10 10:15:00 -
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dwarfen hunter :) dwarf because they are strong and fearless and cute ¦^ hunter because everything is a hunta weapon and you can roll on it :)
i really enjoyed my hunters life, exploring the world. me and my pet. spent most of the time in the wilderness, only came back to town to sell and buy stuff.
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Taaketa Frist
The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.10 10:30:00 -
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I used to play WoW.
I played for one month. Got bored.
Came back two months later. Played for 2 weeks. Got bored. I have not returned since. I think I mainly left since I could literally play it with no more than 3 keys and the mouse. --------------
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Shin Juku
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Posted - 2006.12.10 10:49:00 -
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Edited by: Shin Juku on 10/12/2006 10:49:35 Do not under any circumstances listen to all these people who are telling you not to bother installing WOW. Wow is a fantastic game, I have 3 level 60 characters and played for around 1.5 years (epic rogue, epic druid and blue hunter). The PVP has a lot to offer that EVE doesnt i.e. not click F1-F8 and see who pops first. Rogue PVP in particular requires great timing, precision, knowledge and versatility. Every fight is different.
The PVE grind as one of the posters stated can become very tiresome due to the huge amount of time required and perhaps is only for the real hardcore. However, some of the boss fights are superbly scripted, the lore is fantastic and if you get into a good friendly guild you will have lots of fun fighting monsters. I remember the first time I saw Ragnaros I was like "Holy **** look at the size of that thing".
I advise to get a few friends to play with you, you will have fun levelling and exploring together.
One thing I don't understand is how most people feel EVE and WOW to be mutually exclusive; I am a fan of computer games since 1986 and trust me WOW is just as fantastic a game as EVE, it's just different. It's less hardcore, not in terms of time but in terms of risk vs reward, but can provide hours of fun. It is more pick up and play than EVE, and thats why I love both, depending on my mood.
What I would suggest is try each character to level 20 or so and see which appeals the most; failing that just go with your gut instinct (which character appeals to your playstyle?) My personal favourtite after playing every class to a reasonable level is the Rogue; you might struggle to get into a end game raiding guild as a rogue but the fun of sneaking up on people is priceless. This is the same reason I like druids....
Anyways good luck and have some fun in WOW. For the record, if you are playing on Euro servers, try dunemaul which is where most of my characters are (Alliance btw).
Edit: I have played EVE since beta and will probably be here when they close the servers ;-)
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Constantine Arcanum
Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.
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Posted - 2006.12.10 17:20:00 -
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Edited by: Constantine Arcanum on 10/12/2006 17:20:10
Originally by: Shin Juku The PVP has a lot to offer that EVE doesnt
I'm sorry but i had a wow account, and found the pvp awful. sit there and mash frostbolt in a battlefield then get uber-raped when 20 rogues jump on you.
eve has waaaay more tactics involved. and a noob has a chance against a vet. In wow you don't unless you're a twink.
and everyone hates twinks.
edit: grammar I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes |

Qece
Gallente Dead End Zeroes
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Posted - 2006.12.10 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Constantine Arcanum Edited by: Constantine Arcanum on 10/12/2006 17:20:10
Originally by: Shin Juku The PVP has a lot to offer that EVE doesnt
I'm sorry but i had a wow account, and found the pvp awful. sit there and mash frostbolt in a battlefield then get uber-raped when 20 rogues jump on you.
eve has waaaay more tactics involved. and a noob has a chance against a vet. In wow you don't unless you're a twink.
and everyone hates twinks.
edit: grammar
Totally inaccurate. In WoW gear makes up for a great deal. It can in nearly all circumstances cover up your lack of skill however to be a truely awesome PvP'er in WoW it takes skill. A great deal of skill in fact. You need to be able to adapt to situations just as in EVE and you need to be able to out-think your opponents just as in EVE. A noob has just as much chance against a vet in WoW as they do in EVE, it all depends on how good the vet is and that statement is true to any MMO PvP.
Without wishing to upset you further but I've played a Mage at lvl 60 and I've PvP'ed intensely with one and it is far from "mashing frostbolt". In WoW some might say "L2P" but I'd prefer to say that maybe you might have been missing the point.
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Constantine Arcanum
Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.
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Posted - 2006.12.10 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Qece
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum Edited by: Constantine Arcanum on 10/12/2006 17:20:10
Originally by: Shin Juku The PVP has a lot to offer that EVE doesnt
I'm sorry but i had a wow account, and found the pvp awful. sit there and mash frostbolt in a battlefield then get uber-raped when 20 rogues jump on you.
eve has waaaay more tactics involved. and a noob has a chance against a vet. In wow you don't unless you're a twink.
and everyone hates twinks.
edit: grammar
Totally inaccurate. In WoW gear makes up for a great deal. It can in nearly all circumstances cover up your lack of skill however to be a truely awesome PvP'er in WoW it takes skill. A great deal of skill in fact. You need to be able to adapt to situations just as in EVE and you need to be able to out-think your opponents just as in EVE. A noob has just as much chance against a vet in WoW as they do in EVE, it all depends on how good the vet is and that statement is true to any MMO PvP.
Without wishing to upset you further but I've played a Mage at lvl 60 and I've PvP'ed intensely with one and it is far from "mashing frostbolt". In WoW some might say "L2P" but I'd prefer to say that maybe you might have been missing the point.
What does WOW PVP offer that EVE's doesn't then? And no, I'm not upset, you made a fair point. I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes |

Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.10 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Constantine Arcanum What does WOW PVP offer that EVE's doesn't then?
A mindless grind for "honor."
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Reiisha
Satal's Legion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.10 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Quara Terranas Original post
1) Make a horde character. Alliance is filled with horny teenagers.
2) Try a few classes out before staying on one - play them to level 6-10 (should take between 1 and 4 hours).
3) Find a nice guild - usually, the guilds listed on the realm forums are nice enough.
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Nir
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.12.10 19:44:00 -
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WoW is a contradiction to me. At its core it has fun, carefree and casual PvP but in order to reach that you must go through countless raids, quests and 1-60 in order to get to the casual PvP bit.
Long story short, if there was a WoW freeshard with item spawn commands, free level 60 and just the battlegrounds - I would play there.
P.S. Try Dark Age of Camelot instead, you can level by killing other players (i.e. having fun) and the item grind is nowhere near as bad. Better community too.
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Mr Bigglesworth
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.10 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Bigglesworth on 10/12/2006 20:05:19 Dont get too hooked up on characters and their racial abilities. Very few have a serious advantage over others. Go for what you think looks best ;)
But if you feel like being overpowered, roll Undead Warlock.
If you want a challenge and like variation, go druid.
Tips? Try reading "jame's alliance/horde guide". It can cut your progress time in half.
Despite what most people will tell you, WoW is enjoyable untill you reach a certain point - like all games no matter their content. If you enjoy something take your time with it and dont rush through too much.
Oh and dont bother with Battlegrounds (if you reach 60 anytime soon) - they are worse than EVE's fleetbattles 
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Qece
Gallente Dead End Zeroes
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Posted - 2006.12.11 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Constantine Arcanum
Originally by: Qece
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum Edited by: Constantine Arcanum on 10/12/2006 17:20:10
Originally by: Shin Juku The PVP has a lot to offer that EVE doesnt
I'm sorry but i had a wow account, and found the pvp awful. sit there and mash frostbolt in a battlefield then get uber-raped when 20 rogues jump on you.
eve has waaaay more tactics involved. and a noob has a chance against a vet. In wow you don't unless you're a twink.
and everyone hates twinks.
edit: grammar
Totally inaccurate. In WoW gear makes up for a great deal. It can in nearly all circumstances cover up your lack of skill however to be a truely awesome PvP'er in WoW it takes skill. A great deal of skill in fact. You need to be able to adapt to situations just as in EVE and you need to be able to out-think your opponents just as in EVE. A noob has just as much chance against a vet in WoW as they do in EVE, it all depends on how good the vet is and that statement is true to any MMO PvP.
Without wishing to upset you further but I've played a Mage at lvl 60 and I've PvP'ed intensely with one and it is far from "mashing frostbolt". In WoW some might say "L2P" but I'd prefer to say that maybe you might have been missing the point.
What does WOW PVP offer that EVE's doesn't then? And no, I'm not upset, you made a fair point.
Nothing. I'd never say that one was better than the other. What I will say is that WoW PvP can become a set of routines if you let it turn into a grind rather than a fun activity. I do log on WoW every couple of days, I run a few battlegrounds and log off. I'm not interested in the rewards or the OMGT0T4LPWN, I just a few fun rounds and I'm off. Like most activities in life, if you do too much then it doesn't seem as fun.
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