Having a skill that reduces it to 22hrs for level 5 I could live with ....

I agree with op. 12 hours would be great. No good reason not to and would greatly ease my life.

I agree with op. 12 hours would be great. No good reason not to and would greatly ease my life.

I actually think they need to INCREASE the time or limit the ability of jump cloning. The whole JC process eliminates the need for normal travel and makes moving around WAY to easy. You can be at your home defending one day then JC to a staging area across the map the next. This makes any sort of longterm invasion a cake walk, aswell as defending large areas of space a breeze.

So no.

Other things that could ease your life is:

Autopilot from station to station with warp at zero to gate and MWD+Cloak.
Unlimited cargohold on frigates.
Teleporting from station to station.
More ISK button in neocom.

Bitter gatecamper tears.

I've been living in 0.0 for quite a while, and I think the JC timer is one of the limitinfg factor for pvp for many ppl. Obviously, if im in my +5s clone, im much less tempted to go roam around and whatnot.

Wouldnt it be possible to make the JC timer 1-5 hours for clones that are in the same region as you are?
To limit the "bunnyhopping" around the galaxy, we could keep the 24 hours timer for clones that are in another region, i.e. far away..

*edit* @previous: I don't think of JC timer as a challenge, I see it more as something that prevents me from doing what I would like to do...

Jump clones are used for force projection and risk avoidance, both of which are bad things in the game.

Those who don't see why JCs are bad/would be worse with a lower timer need to stop and think.


Those who said/agreed with "no reason not to and it would make my life easier" really need to stop and think, as that statment contains the reason not to.

Or you can just update the clone to a different station and pod your sorry ass.

vOv

I'm sorry, was this supposed to have a point?

Its a point of force projection. Its another flawed design IMO. However at least thats limited based off of location and if your corp has a office in that station. So its at least somewhat controlled.

Considering the ease of jumping with capitals and bridges and what have you, having the clone jump feature limited to 24 hours feels somewhat outdated with the current state of New Eden.

Some random thoughts on this that I never bothered to flesh out.

It restricts accessibility of PVP, not talking about people that are unwilling to jump out of their precious +5 learning skills but those that fly a variety of ships and might be in their frigate set and get a CTA to do a pos bash with the chance of podding, then next day be asked to go on a BC roam. While you can say 'just deal with it',

I think the modern game features more diversity of activity for each player and being able to at least react to each evenings fleet ops (or even personal goals) with say, a 18 hour limit rather than 24, so you have some flexibility.

There is no reason to cater to people that just want to jump back into +5's at will but easing up a bit encourages more PVP... also useful for people involved in a mix of industry and pvp. In fact it is in this area that it is more critical. Who wants to go pvp with mining foreman links etc?

Lowering the timer enables more activity and doesn't just mean insta jumping across the universe any more than it does as it currently exists.

Just remove learning implants, and there wouldn't be the need for a "learning clone" to swap between every other day. It's dumb anyhow.

Considering the ease of jumping with capitals and bridges and what have you, having the clone jump feature limited to 24 hours feels somewhat outdated with the current state of New Eden.

Some random thoughts on this that I never bothered to flesh out.

It restricts accessibility of PVP, not talking about people that are unwilling to jump out of their precious +5 learning skills but those that fly a variety of ships and might be in their frigate set and get a CTA to do a pos bash with the chance of podding, then next day be asked to go on a BC roam. While you can say 'just deal with it',

I think the modern game features more diversity of activity for each player and being able to at least react to each evenings fleet ops (or even personal goals) with say, a 18 hour limit rather than 24, so you have some flexibility.

There is no reason to cater to people that just want to jump back into +5's at will but easing up a bit encourages more PVP... also useful for people involved in a mix of industry and pvp. In fact it is in this area that it is more critical. Who wants to go pvp with mining foreman links etc?

Lowering the timer enables more activity and doesn't just mean insta jumping across the universe any more than it does as it currently exists.

Gate camper and blob merchant detected

I actually think they need to INCREASE the time or limit the ability of jump cloning. The whole JC process eliminates the need for normal travel and makes moving around WAY to easy. You can be at your home defending one day then JC to a staging area across the map the next. This makes any sort of longterm invasion a cake walk, aswell as defending large areas of space a breeze.

So no.

Well at least if you pod yourself you lose your implants and have to buy a clone.

Jump clones are more like "Would you like to use a set of +5's and then PvP without risking them? Well step right up!"

If only CCP could provide us with an "I win" button...

Do away with the jump clone timer when swapping with another clone in the same station. Keep the 24h timer for jumping to a remote clone.

That way you won't be jumping around the universe constantly, and you may have more people giving PvP a go if they aren't risking expensive clones, or a loss of training time.

If I have to change something in the highsec market and jump there i'm stuck there for 24 hours for no good reason.

this is not the feedback and ideas section of the forums, go post it there for beeter success

Make it instant

I dont care about you lot i only care about me

(In before hate)

Make JC cost isk, and have it increase substantially as you use it.

24 hour cooldown is base, 1 m isk for each hour reduced, then the next time you use it, 2m isk for each hour reduced, then 3 m isk for each hour reduced, etc.

Sometimes it pays to be fast, other times just wait it out.

Or you can just update the clone to a different station and pod your sorry ass.

Having a skill that reduces it to 22hrs for level 5 I could live with ....

I love this talk about force projection, it's like there isn't an alternative that takes 2 minutes pr use, 3 if your fat fingers can't update the clone and set a new station quickly enough.

I love all this talk about force projection, it's like people have never heard of supercapitals

I actually think they need to INCREASE the time or limit the ability of jump cloning. The whole JC process eliminates the need for normal travel and makes moving around WAY to easy. You can be at your home defending one day then JC to a staging area across the map the next. This makes any sort of longterm invasion a cake walk, aswell as defending large areas of space a breeze.

So no.