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Hilabana
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.12.12 05:20:00 -
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If you remember Jovians , great story lines , Mines, Hanger and many other things well welcome to when eve was great even with all its small bugs. It was a great game that had pirates , Rogues , miners and many other type of players working in there own way. we had fun and the great storys we got to read like city of god and then got to go see was great it made you feel like part of the game.
But now it seems the game is only about mega corps and 100 % PVP and if you are not part of that they will tell you in game to go play another game!
Are they forgetting that it was our money paying to play eve for so long that has been keeping eve going ?
There must still be some lone players that love there NPC corp there in ?
Or has the lone player that did some much on there own to see if they can do it gone ? Eve is not just a game it was more then that for if it was just another game then you will let the ISK spammers take over like they have in every other game. you will do away with High Sec and tell the new players to fend for there self! If it was like any other game you will not have clones ! you will not have had Implant ! Thing like that says it is not Just a PVP game. Just look at Mining , Factorys , labs , mission agents and so verry much more! What is there for the older players now if it is going 100 % PVP ?
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Gonada
Gallente Cross Roads
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Posted - 2006.12.12 05:29:00 -
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i dont know what kind of game your playing, but the eve i play is vibrant, exciting, and challenging.
and if you are as " old" as you say, wich i like totally doubt, you would remeber the emptyness that was early eve.
you might love your NPC corp, but you know, they call it NOOB-corp for more than one reason.
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.- -nerf Missles-
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Hilabana
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.12.12 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada i dont know what kind of game your playing, but the eve i play is vibrant, exciting, and challenging.
and if you are as " old" as you say, wich i like totally doubt, you would remeber the emptyness that was early eve.
you might love your NPC corp, but you know, they call it NOOB-corp for more than one reason.
Sorry to brake this to you LAD but the NPC corp im in is not a NOOB corp ! It is the corp that all the people end up when there corp close down or they drop out of there Crappy player corp !
Many of us stay in that NPC corp and can care less about player corps any more! as for eve not having Much your wrong again it had many things even if they was small. there was pirate camps right in rens that many new players got to find on there own! there was not a big Sighn pointing the way to it or big text box telling what you will find and what ship you must be in. why not just tell people watch out you may get hurt if you do a mission or go to low sec ? and may be have some one hold our hand .... oooppss i for got thats what the player corps are for sorry about that! even if there was not that many ship in the game its not what big toy you get to fly that makes a game great its Content ! To bad you for got that !
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.12 05:46:00 -
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yes small outfits are still viable - and alliacnes rise and fall all the time look at ASCN now
These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views
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CRUSH BOSS
Caldari BOSS PRODUCTIONS
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Posted - 2006.12.12 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada i dont know what kind of game your playing, but the eve i play is vibrant, exciting, and challenging.
and if you are as " old" as you say, wich i like totally doubt, you would remeber the emptyness that was early eve.
you might love your NPC corp, but you know, they call it NOOB-corp for more than one reason.
Thats just plain rude, you should learn to respect your elders :) .... "LAD" lol ... nice!
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Galk
Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said
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Posted - 2006.12.12 06:22:00 -
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Thing is:
You can still play the game at it's simplest levels of 3 years ago if you wish
Agreed on the storylines and events though, they have been lost to a dumbed down alliance tourny every 6 months:/ ______
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Merchantigus
Minmatar Riot Zone
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Posted - 2006.12.12 06:35:00 -
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pesh i want my npc free .0 ninja mining, heavy drone humming bird speed thorax and no price history market back :p
is it worth 3mill? who the **** knows but you're about to pay that for it
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Kerm
Gallente Turbulent Subversion
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Posted - 2006.12.12 06:46:00 -
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Well iam an older player and I still find this game draws me in with plenty to do. I wouldnt say its all about Mega Alliances and PvP these days, sure thats where a lot of the focus is but theres many more things to do now if your not interested in PvP than there was back in '03 when I started.
Salvaging, many different kinds of trade/science, Mining, Freighting, Complex's, Missions and the likes. Theres many a small corp out there that focus on these groups and are having fun and success. You have to give CCP credit for listening to their supporters and adding things like rhese to make the game as great as it is today.
I would find it boring if we didnt have the super powers that are BoB, ASCN, MC, and the many others that battle for power and success. I find these player driven stories/battles interesting and very effective, ASCN Titan go boom for example, something that shook the whole Eve Universe, and player driven. The old event storys written by CCP i did love and wish we had more, like Crielere Station, and the Jovian Ambassidor. But come factional warfare maybe this will be put right. I know iam gona be playing this game for many more years as it can only get better.
I remember back when i was a noob.. :D
*How you couldnt reload your guns from your cargo bay and had to dock at a station to reload everytime you ran out of ammo unless you were amarr (this could have been a bug though I cant remember)
*There were only 5 classes of ship, 4 if you think Shuttles dont count.
*The first T2 ships released were Interceptors which sold for about 200mill and up. Followed by Assault Frigs iirc.
*That blue radar/scanner thing in the bottom right hand corner.
*The Zombie Luminaire Smartbomb Massacre.
*The Curse Alliance Stories.
*Alliances were unofficial, could only be formed as blueboxes +10 standings.
*4000-5000 player login record
*Chaining NPC (a different form of leaving one rat alive however the destroyed NPC would respawn at rapid pace after a while, basically respawning straight away after you kill one)
*TankCEO and Dark Cartel ganking all that moved.
*Dual MWD Ships and Frigates with cruise/torp launcers.
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Trigo
Caldari Rionnag Alba Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.12 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kerm
*The Zombie Luminaire Smartbomb Massacre.
That still haunts me to this day. ------------------------------------ Booga
No eve access Monday - Thursday 10pm - 8:20am GMT |
Vrizuh
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.12 07:11:00 -
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I sort of understand you. However I think you're being influenced by game politics and the common human trait of comparing the grass on both sides of the fence.
Empire is still its own world. In fact, there are so many worlds in eve that I get dizzy trying to think about them. ASCN / BoB have their own little conflict going on, but a few weeks ago I didnt even know or care. Within empire alone you have high sec courier pilots, ratting pilots, suicide gankers, belt miners. You have npc corps, you have new, small player corps, and medium player corps just starting to spread their wings.
You have the traders and the manufacturers, the recyclers, and the RPers.
Go out a bit further to low sec. You have pirates, corps which are starting to harden and make a name for themselves as anti-pirates or as pirates. You have empire corps starting to sneak into low sec for some ore, or pvp practice.
A bit further out and then what? I dont know, I've only been in Feyth. I picture ISS space as being rife with pirates and individual miners who want to try 0.0 ore but without the guaranteed gate ganking.
You can come to the south and get shot at by anything with thrusters. As empires clash and nation states within them try to find their own destiny within eve and within the alliance.
This game is immense. You can think it is all about the southern wars, and those who think like them. But what about the northern/low sec/empire players? What about the corps in empire who go to great lengths to setup a corp mining op, in which the "high ore" is Omber? They're still seeing the game how you once saw it.
Only on the messageboards can you be led to believe that Eve is just about victory against your opponents. That RP is dead, as is building something beautiful. Anytime I start to feel like Im losing perspective, I go read what INNOMINATE NIGHTMARE has to say. Your eve is still there. Its just that you're seeing so many things, in varying scales, that it doesn't stand out anymore.
Oh, except for smack on the messageboards and ISK sellers. Thats pretty new. Sorry man =/
I needed more isk, so I took a risk. I mined some ore then fled once more. I'll return to the core to escape the war! |
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Jorak Falconstar
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.12 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kerm Edited by: Kerm on 12/12/2006 06:55:42 *The Zombie Luminaire Smartbomb Massacre.
I thought that was Yulai.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2006.12.12 08:24:00 -
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I remember my fatal exception windows in beta2 "It's great being Amarr, ain't it?Ö"
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Deidranna
SteelVipers YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.12.12 08:35:00 -
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ignore the whiner ignore the go play wow play your game
earning lots of isk or killing lots of people has never been easier ignore them, they have no clue :)
GM Eldini > Hi, behaving are we?
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Akiman
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Posted - 2006.12.12 10:59:00 -
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i have to say %100 pvp is carebearizm...like %100 mining
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Merchantigus
Minmatar Riot Zone
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Posted - 2006.12.12 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: Merchantigus on 12/12/2006 11:12:14 Edited by: Merchantigus on 12/12/2006 11:08:26
Originally by: Akiman i have to say %100 pvp is carebearizm...like %100 mining
...lay off the drugz son...
Heh remember when the station docking wasn't working "as intended" and we all had to wait 5 mins to undock? XD Ah beta. everything was new and full of awe and not a bit of it worked quite right XD People in battleships were the hotness and no one had any damn isk
to the op though. everything is still there just as it was(cept for the newness). you don't have to join a megacorp to play. you might not want to walk into the middle of a bob/acsn fight but 200 ships killed in the last hour should tip you off :)
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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2006.12.12 11:11:00 -
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Well I'll tell you this.
I am in a corp that was two big alliances for about two years. We finally gave up alliance warfare and now roam 00 freely.
We don't ask plays to do this and that. Very free corp. Best fun I've ever had as getting out of an Alliance. It is still viable to be solo. -=====-
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Lokyi
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Posted - 2006.12.12 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kerm
I remember back when i was a noob.. :D
*How you couldnt reload your guns from your cargo bay and had to dock at a station to reload everytime you ran out of ammo unless you were amarr (this could have been a bug though I cant remember)
*There were only 5 classes of ship, 4 if you think Shuttles dont count.
*The first T2 ships released were Interceptors which sold for about 200mill and up. Followed by Assault Frigs iirc.
*That blue radar/scanner thing in the bottom right hand corner.
*The Zombie Luminaire Smartbomb Massacre.
*The Curse Alliance Stories.
*Alliances were unofficial, could only be formed as blueboxes +10 standings.
*4000-5000 player login record
*Chaining NPC (a different form of leaving one rat alive however the destroyed NPC would respawn at rapid pace after a while, basically respawning straight away after you kill one)
*TankCEO and Dark Cartel ganking all that moved.
*Dual MWD Ships and Frigates with cruise/torp launcers.
*High sec Asteroid belts still had ore in them
Yea it was small back then and I loved it, but even though its much bigger now, I still love it.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
My corp has chopped and changed a few times, members have left and re-joined... but back when we used to see how fast we could REALLY get ships moving... those were the days. None of this Snake Implant garbage, I think we got 3 MWDs on a Blackbird, over 30km/s or something stupid like that. Crush might remember better, although it was a coupla years ago now :-/ Think we got 15km/s out of a Merlin too. Cap didn't last very long tho, but by that time you were quite a few hundred km away lol. Cruise missiles on Kestrels... ahhh the nostalgia.
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Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2006.12.12 11:18:00 -
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Luminaire hosted the Grid Exploration Teams, I think. Was a bunch of people who noticed that if you sat in the correct place, grids would overlap. You could lock and shoot people at the gate from there, but CONCORD couldn't target you (and spawned in the wrong grid).
The Zombie Masacre was held in Yulai, I think, where they remote tanked one or two gankers. They were banned nearly to a man because they didn't stop when a GM told them to. This also gave us the system where remotely beneficial modules would have you agressed. - EVE is sick. |
Dufas
Amarr Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.12 11:42:00 -
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In my day sonnie there were no battleships in game...no highway systems and it took all day to fly from domain to caldari space with no autopilot....you could fly thu .0 space for days and not see anyone...and the respawn rate was indeed insane..me and a buddy went into CFS space to rat and we chained a spawn (only cruser rats bs rats were not even heard of yet) for about 4 hrs and had so many loot cans in space you couldnt see the rats..must have been about 10k cans as they spawed faster and faster and faster ....and some of the best fun i've ever had in game was the first few weeks of playing and mining veld/scord in 1.0 starter systems
what would be really cool is if theres a small server you could log into and play eve or atleast look around like it was when it was first released then ppl would realize how nice the game is now with all the new features market contracts etc etc __________
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Gonada
Gallente Cross Roads
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Posted - 2006.12.12 12:20:00 -
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Sorry to brake this to you LAD but the NPC corp im in is not a NOOB corp ! It is the corp that all the people end up when there corp close down or they drop out of there Crappy player corp ! -----------------------------------------
um ya, it is.
Thats just plain rude, you should learn to respect your elders :) .... "LAD" lol ... nice! ---------------------------------------------
june 2003 start date, im no "lad"
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.- -nerf Missles-
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Claire Gainsborough
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Posted - 2006.12.12 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada Sorry to brake this to you LAD but the NPC corp im in is not a NOOB corp ! It is the corp that all the people end up when there corp close down or they drop out of there Crappy player corp ! -----------------------------------------
um ya, it is.
Thats just plain rude, you should learn to respect your elders :) .... "LAD" lol ... nice! ---------------------------------------------
june 2003 start date, im no "lad"
Prove Gonada wasn't just bought from its original owner, me lad!
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Azrael Maxim
Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.12 13:05:00 -
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Hey Hilabana didnt you have your own corp a long time ago ?
And why did you leave it ?
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.12 13:15:00 -
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In-game events and the like have been seriously neglected for a while now.
Just look at the time it took the Gallenteans to get a new President and the ongoing delays with the new Amarrian Emperor and Sarum heir.
However, there's been a reorganisation at CCP recently, and the seem to be putting more resources into this aspect of the game now, so hopefully we'll start to see improvements before too long.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
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Romeda
Minmatar Trojan industries
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Posted - 2006.12.12 13:28:00 -
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I've been playing EVE for quite some time and I would like to add my opinion. I'm still happy to pay and play for EVE and I don't see that changing any time soon, but I feel that in the last year or so, the game has shifted to a more PvP base and PvE or things like industry and mining has been kinda left out.
Missions, mining, ratting and other PvE elements are becoming a matter of grinding work than fun :(
As an old player I feel a change in EVE but in that time I've learned to trust the Dev's and not complain at them without waiting to hear what they have to say first. I do hope they have good changes in store for missions and mining, from the 'in development" page there are some intresting ideas :)
Hope is not lost for mining and other PvE enviroments, but the PvP lobby is a lould one and they can shout the louldest.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.12.12 13:30:00 -
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The OP has a point.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Harisdrop
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.12 13:43:00 -
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Kill the NPC corporation life. They shall be destroyed with fires from hell. Henceforth blast their access to complexes and ship types. Make thier lives hell.
Read my sig. My story will not end till there is something done. For which comes from hell is dealt will the iron fist. -------------------------------------
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Ambre Blanche
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2006.12.12 14:08:00 -
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I have been a proud member of the Royal Amarr Institute for about three years now and when I read the Alliance forum, it's only surges me to stay where I am.
Long life PvE and consensual PvP !
Ambre.
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Pacala
Gallente AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.12 15:52:00 -
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I miss ninja mining Arkonor in Empire space in my Velator ('cause fixing noob ships costs no iskies).
I miss "harvesting" NPC convoys once you were 150km away from the station guns. (Can we please get this one back? Player pirates can gank player haulers...)
I do not agree that EVE lacks content. As with any MMORPG, the social aspects of the game tend to be the ones that offer the most depth and immersion. The content is created by you, all CCP has to do is give you the framework.
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Kerm
Gallente Turbulent Subversion
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Posted - 2006.12.12 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Kerm on 12/12/2006 17:13:51 Yea it was Yulai not Luminaire, I think I put that because Luminaire used to be THE main central trade place that was full of lag and 300+ players, plus it was like 2am when I wrote it, 2am, see what this game does lol
"I miss "harvesting" NPC convoys once you were 150km away from the station guns."
Yea that was fun, grabbing all that loot like fibre optic cables and making hundreds of millions off it, though the station sentries wouldnt bother you if you waited for say Duvolle Convoy to leave the Duvoole station and arrive at Quafe Station, gank it outside Quafe and their sentries had no authority to fire, free stuff
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.12 18:04:00 -
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I joined a player corp (SOA) within a week of starting the game. That introduced me to three great characters (yo! to Spaceman and Dianabolic) and really made the game for me. One day I might rejoin a corp with them but for now I've given in to my carebear roots and retreated to Empire.
I remember Yulai incident well (a friend I introduced lost his first frigate to it IIRC).
I also remember that beams were crap when I joined, awesome when I got my first BS then merely average after that.
I also remember the TPS betrayal and the other time we were ready to set up an industrial base and the PvP addicts wrecked it. -- (Battle hardened industrialist)
[Brackley, UK]
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Alessandra Colovini
Minmatar Fugawe Technology Solutions Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.12 18:07:00 -
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There is no right way or wrong way to play this game. Getting involved in the megacorps and 0.0 alliances is one way, being in a small independent empire corp is another.
There are some aspects of both that I like. Which is why I have characters both in a major alliance and in an independent empire industrial corp. I can get the best of both worlds that way.
There is no way to completely avoid PvP but there are ways to minimize your exposure to it, if you're careful. You learn these ways with experience, which you probably have. So I wouldn't fear too much.
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2006.12.12 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kerm I remember back when i was a noob.. :D
*There were only 5 classes of ship, 4 if you think Shuttles dont count.
5? I remember 3 (frigate, cruiser and battleship [not counting shuttles]). Am I forgetting one?
More than that I remember when getting to a battleship was the end-all, be-all of EVE ownage and if you arrowed to a battleship neglecting all else it took you a good three months of skilling and and mining to own one (and if you did that likely you were begging to get blown up being barely able to fly it...many a newb ground their butts off to get one ASAP and quit two days later when they lost it).
I also remember the first time I saw an Iteron Mk-V...you almost NEVER saw them. In an odd way strutting around in one was almost more impressive than flying about in a battleship. These days they are all over.
Quote: *The Curse Alliance Stories.
How about the Great Northern War?
Quote: *TankCEO and Dark Cartel ganking all that moved.
TankCEO was the first person to gank me so that brings back memories. This was back in the day of JIP camps.
Quote: *Dual MWD Ships and Frigates with cruise/torp launcers.
Dual MWD? I forget how many a mate managed but he put on all the MWDs he could manage (there was only one size MWD back then) on a Scorp (think he put in 6 but again it has been a long time and I forget exactly). I forget how fast he went but it was like 3,000,000 m/s or more and he was still accelerating when he ran out of cap. Not good for much but was fun to try.
I seem to recall an unbreakable Scorp tank a long time back but again with the vague memory.
Better I liked the bug in the Blackbird that made it fly more like a frigate. I wanted to cry when CCP fixed that (turning it from the most nimble cruiser by far to the most sluggish).
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Kerm
Gallente Turbulent Subversion
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Posted - 2006.12.12 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Humpalot
Originally by: Kerm *There were only 5 classes of ship, 4 if you think Shuttles dont count.
5? I remember 3 (frigate, cruiser and battleship [not counting shuttles]). Am I forgetting one?
Yea your forgetting Industrials. And Yea getting into a BS was the end of all things, I remember getting into a Cruiser took a while if you wernt lucky enough to join a corp or know someone well off, straight away.
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Hilabana
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.12.12 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Azrael Maxim Hey Hilabana didnt you have your own corp a long time ago ?
And why did you leave it ?
Yes and a good number of them closed and i left the first one when the CEO step down and a new player now owns it. The last one had some sort of error when the main ceo eve time ran out and there was no director to take over.
Great planning still can go verry wrong in the end.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.12 19:00:00 -
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Shuttles? I remember Eve before such luxuries.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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MrTripps
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.12 19:14:00 -
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It sounds like the OP is more disenchanted with his corp then the game. If running with a corp makes playing the game feel more like a job then entertainment it might be time to find another corp.
Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. - Bertrand Russell |
Athren Soulsteal
Gallente Orion Faction
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Posted - 2006.12.12 19:34:00 -
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Hehe remember when "Interbus" was going to be the way to get from point A to point B (before shuttles)
Quote: I miss "harvesting" NPC convoys once you were 150km away from the station guns. (Can we please get this one back? Player pirates can gank player haulers...)
Thats where all the harvester mining drones that are still in the game came from. Finding a indy carring Harvest was the T2 lottey of that era.
Remember when you could keep pods, and use them as a destraction for the early Prats by jeting them when you were locked.
Remember being able to fly 5 ships by bouncing from one to another and putting them on follow. Thats how I moved my ships from my base in kub to she back before shuttles. Set the ship to warp then jump to next ship and repeat. If your timing was on you had all your ships jump through the gate if your timing was off you left a few ships back at the last systems gate and because you jumped in to a planet (not gate) you would have to rush back to get your ships through. Docking was the same head all the ships to dock, wait for the accepted prompt and jump to next ship.
But what was really fun was making a bunch of starter ships and station them at a moon, then jump all the ships at the early gate campers and watch them scatter before they realize it was just 1 person in 5 starters not 5 people hitting the gate
Remember early on when we actually had corp wars.
Remember when low sec and 0.0 space only ment bigger NPCs (before the ore was relocated) and the only worry you had was an Wardeq corp.
Remember when the Devs said "Reverse Engineering is in the game if you know where to look" (that was 2 weeks after gold)
remember training for 3 months for the skills to handle a cruser.
Quote: Think about the people that did fight you fairly. Think.... that were honorable and helped you out in times of need. Those are the real heroes of EVE.
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Araxmas
Imperial Space Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.12 20:08:00 -
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Albeit not as old as the 2003-2004 lot. The most i remember is the pod bug where anyones pod looked like a war victim. PoS taking was only capable by BS's (no dreads) Yulai being the main Hub and the FSA - [5] War...ah BSI got a spanking by a frigate fleet. --------
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thundachronic
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.12 20:29:00 -
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The game is not the same as it was when it was first released for sure, but that's called evolution. Some things I think I miss because of nostalgia, but when I really think about it, things changed because they either weren't working or they were a PITA.
I do remember solo Ninja mining bistot & crokite in a Probe in Empire, and it was a hoot. No such thing as Miner 2's back then either, just the trusty Miner 1. Jet can mining wasn't even invented so you flew each cargobay full back to station (without instas). Not that it mattered - took me 3 months to buy my first cruiser. Couldn't even fly an indy till much later.
Got my 2nd cruiser when I sold 3x 24% cargo expanders for 7.5 mil - thought I was SERIOUSLY RICH. Got all of them from baby, baby rats in Evati (I think) sitting on a gate (amongst the zillions of python & cobra mines they always seemed to drop....). I remember when the mines got removed from the game aswell. People were dropping mines in all sorts of places and totally forgot about them until someone else accidentally found them - then the person who dropped them was immediately flagged and Concord showed up at the most inopportune moments ;)
As someone mentioned, back in the old days, there was only 1 size of AB & MWD. Then the ship sized modules were created. There was also no cap & shield penalty to fitting a MWD. When that got added people like myself would rather fit a 10mn AB on a Rifter - better results and no cap loss :D
Having no autopilot was a serious chore. If you wanted to go anywhere you had to fly to, and activate each gate =/ Glad that got fixed hehe
To the OP, yeah loads of things have changed. No way that everyone is going to be happy with all the changes. That's just the way with evolution. Yes there's people in the world that still wish it was the 60's, but things have moved on ;) Gotta deal with it I'm afraid.
New pilots also have it way easier than the old farts ever did. We killed someone in a Ferox other day who must have been about 2 weeks old - he was even fitting a civvy shield booster (as such he deserved to die imo, if only for that !!). I could never afford anything like that for months. They also have a knowledgebase and helpful pilots in their starter corps to help them. I still have my boxed EVE that I bought from "GAME" when the game first went retail - the manual was out of date on release day. The tutorial was more of "Hi, this is a ship - good luck, bye !". No-one knew what the hell learning skills were for. The aspiring trader who went for a high CHA skill was screwed from the start as trade skills never worked for 2 years. Don't forget they do still have a choice as to how they want to play the game, and no-one is stopping them playing solo. No-one is stopping them joining any size corp they want. If that corp is in an alliance then they can try that out aswell.
Things have moved on m8. In 6 months time we'll all be wondering what all the fuss about instas was ;)
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.13 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: thundachronic Got my 2nd cruiser when I sold 3x 24% cargo expanders for 7.5 mil - thought I was SERIOUSLY RICH.
Lol, yeah. I remember in late summer of '04 I picked up an LHC expander as loot from an l3 mission. Sold it for 27mil and thought I was rich. The other day my alt sold an implant for 48mil and I barely noticed :-/ -- (Battle hardened industrialist)
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Mortok Tristan
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Posted - 2006.12.13 14:37:00 -
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I remeber warping to a gate , and bouncing off thousands of km away.... today ppl get warp-to-0 .. the game evolves.. But the real reason why i still play eve, is its community and players, not the features in the game.
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Lesican
Minmatar HotRock Mining PLC Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 14:37:00 -
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I miss EvE pre-storyline nerf.
When I first started playing, as a member of the Republic Militery School, the Amarr where slaver scum. There would be green text in corp or Minmitar channel 3-4 times a week. My convoy is under attack, I need an escort. Reports of Slavers in blah sytem.
The Crielle labs (spelling?) was on the news. I had progressed to a small industrial corporation and heard about the poor scientists under attack. Everybody I spoke too knew of the battles that ensued.
Skip forward a few years. Every 6 months you get an alliance tournament, that no-body outside the alliance really cares about, where everybody that doesn't have a Major alliance ticker is reffered to as a nooby roleplayer by the hosts.
I have a good bunch of allies right now, we dont claim space, its a small group but we are all friends and fight for what we beleive in. I think Eve as a game is so much better these days. The ships are better balanced, the UI is constantly improving. The new content is enjoyable (salvaging and rigs appeal to my minmitar nature).
I just miss the plot, for it was lost years ago :)
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Hilabana
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.12.16 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lesican I miss EvE pre-storyline nerf.
When I first started playing, as a member of the Republic Militery School, the Amarr where slaver scum. There would be green text in corp or Minmitar channel 3-4 times a week. My convoy is under attack, I need an escort. Reports of Slavers in blah sytem.
The Crielle labs (spelling?) was on the news. I had progressed to a small industrial corporation and heard about the poor scientists under attack. Everybody I spoke too knew of the battles that ensued.
Skip forward a few years. Every 6 months you get an alliance tournament, that no-body outside the alliance really cares about, where everybody that doesn't have a Major alliance ticker is reffered to as a nooby roleplayer by the hosts.
I have a good bunch of allies right now, we dont claim space, its a small group but we are all friends and fight for what we beleive in. I think Eve as a game is so much better these days. The ships are better balanced, the UI is constantly improving. The new content is enjoyable (salvaging and rigs appeal to my minmitar nature).
I just miss the plot, for it was lost years ago :)
I do not know but i think they still do that from time to time. I remember one day when color text pop up in a system and it was reported to me in our empire chat room about flowers in a ore field ... its nice and all that there is a TV of the PVP contests but it be nice to see again Some clips of the new Invetion system working and may be a cosmos battle 10/10. and have some sort of plot or story to go with the Cosmos that we can click on and read. and why not put back concord agents at there bases ? even if we can not use them its still nice to see a bases with agents at them.
what do you think may be some one for got how to tell storys ?
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St Ravage
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Posted - 2006.12.17 04:41:00 -
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I agree, there was alot of stuff that made u feel u were part of a very real universe, it still works now and the game is a million times more intresting now, but theres alot can be said about a good storyline in the news that makes u feel theres more going on in this universe than just ascn vs bob. I mean now theres this whole thing where if ur not in a major alliance ur just a noob/neutral that doesnt matter because ur Kill on sight, once they fix the revelations stuff i hope they sit down and come up with some neat ideas to get peple talking about the storys again,like a jove titan showing up in jita for 10 mins before mysteriously dissapearing. I did like the treasure hunt thing they did not so long ago though :) |
Gamer4liff
Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.17 04:59:00 -
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Edited by: Gamer4liff on 17/12/2006 05:01:22 As a moderatly "old"(feb 04) player *cough* *cearbear* *cough* I think eve has gotten better rather than worse tbh. There is more content, an easier learning curve, a more intuitive tutorial. And there is plenty of new PvE content, I mean just look at exploration for frak's sake! EvE will never be or head towards "100%" PvP.
EvE is something for everyone, it's a living world.
There is plenty of things to do for us old' non-pvping types. Cosmos, exploration, capship manufacturing, partaking in nutty discussions on ventrillo servers with people on the other side of the globe.
There is pleeeeenty of content.
But yeah it would be funny if they exploded' another jove, I always chuckle about that one.
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Phantomas
Gallente INTAKI UNION
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Posted - 2006.12.17 05:55:00 -
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I've been playing since almost release.. the glory days were not all that we remember them to be, everyone scraping isk to buy those first battleships. I think CCP has done a decent job balancing this game and keeping the older players here and active. Good job so far!
I do have some fears about the future with White Wolf being involved (my characters name is based off a white wolf novels character). In my experience White Wolf hasn't always had the common good in mind they will release material for their Live action role playing games long before its ready rushing the process. Translated into a PC game context this could mean quantity over quality is in store.
An example of the White Wolf culture was when they took over the Camarilla an international non-profit fan club through threat of court action (to make money off that international organization membership).
I suppose that if they help CCP make the board games, and write novels based in the Eve universe that isn't such a bad thing. However, if they start getting involved in the running of CCP I fear their Corporate values will infect our CCP.
We'll have to see if it becomes crap then people will move on to new games. Though there will always be a special place in my heart for Phantomas :P [2006.04.30 19:30:23] Vremaja Idama > For it is by men of action as yourself that we as Intaki will find our way into the future. |
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