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Apollo Balthar
Minmatar The Sausage Smuggling Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.17 23:41:00 -
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Who's Cyvok ?
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Sonic Slayer
Minmatar Guardian Heroes Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.18 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Sonic Slayer on 18/12/2006 01:23:59
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Sonic Slayer
Minmatar Guardian Heroes Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.18 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lion El'Johnson All this crap about "respect" to CYVOK for his accomplishments on building something great is quite utterly pathetic.
CYVOK did create something great. He created a great shambles.
His "Great" alliance is in the process of falling apart. His "Great" titan died horribly. His "Great" legacy means nothing.
CYVOK attempted to build something great and fell flat on his arse.
Th OP mentioned that CYVOK made the ASCN what it is today... This is the only great achievement he accomplished. He made ASCN a massive bunch of whiners and losers.
I know this will prolly generate a few flames but, in all honesty, I think i hit the nail on the head :)
Proper Regards, Lion El'Johnson, CEO Lion's Emporium Corporatation.
"It is not the critic who counts not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat." THEODORE ROOSEVELT (Paris Sorbonne,1910)
That being said, as a former active duty Marine, I understand the stress of what CYVOK gone through with the discharge and all that adjusting to the "WTF am I gonna do now for money and a place to live" and all that "living life" concept, and RL comes way before anything else. I don't know nor claim to know the man but I can see it takes great effort and time to run a corp much less a whole alliance... just trying to setup and manage the sites and forums out of game is a handful. while EVE is just a game, we invest alot of ourselves into it and it is a tangible part of our lives and when that crashes into the rest of what's out there and creates conflict, we need to step back and reasses what direction we want our lives to head in and make corrections to course, whether it is to take a break from EVE and get our stuff sorted or move back into the basement of our parents' place and ignore everything else because Eve is the cruel and demanding mistress of our love life. Hey if that is the path you choose, more power to ya, I'm a fan of BDSM too.
My point? Don't Hate, Congratulate! and on CYVOK leaving... no-one leaves forever, I'm betting he'll return when he gets his life in order, till then GL.
Thank you pathetic humans for reading another incoherent rant of the Mad Chinaman I need to stuff Pocky down my otaku throat now and watch some anime and sharpen my swords without cutting myself this time, kthnksbye. 
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JForce
N.W.A
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Posted - 2006.12.18 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sonic Slayer
"It is not the critic who counts not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat." THEODORE ROOSEVELT (Paris Sorbonne,1910)
Every single part of your post is why Cyvok failed. He wasn't in the arena. His face wasn't marred by the sweat and blood. He didn't fail while daring greatly.
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Lord XSiV
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2006.12.18 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: JForce
Originally by: Sonic Slayer
"It is not the critic who counts not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat." THEODORE ROOSEVELT (Paris Sorbonne,1910)
Every single part of your post is why Cyvok failed. He wasn't in the arena. His face wasn't marred by the sweat and blood. He didn't fail while daring greatly.
If he had, the level of respect would be 10x what it is now.
Yeah but he ran a great scam....
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Vrizuh
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.18 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Vrizuh
So BoB are what, irrelevant? Nothing? If your corp came up against BoB, what state would it be in? BoB is a great corp, definately one of the greatest.
BOB is not a corp 
A mistake in terminology maybe? I saw it after I posted but I thought "bah, no-one will care about that right? Screw editing". You'll notice that further down I do correctly refer to BoB as an alliance. I *have* read the history forum @ RKK's site so I understand that you are or were very seperate entities.
I'm curious how deep your bonds go. Certainly from the outside you may as well be one corp. Do your individual member corps still have some slightly key differences? Do your alts share any corps together? (Making it harder to split)
I needed more isk, so I took a risk. I mined some ore then fled once more. I'll return to the core to escape the war! |

Rift Scorn
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.18 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Vrizuh I'm curious how deep your bonds go. Certainly from the outside you may as well be one corp. Do your individual member corps still have some slightly key differences?
Yes, recently i have been having a heated arguement with DB Precher over the benefits of cake, as opposed that of cookies with a cup of Tea. Not too mention the age old BNC/RKK classifications of Jaffa cakes as cakes or biscuits. Although these differences are slight, they are also very very deep seated and have led to what we now know as 'Key Differences'.
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EnglishBob
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.18 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Rift Scorn Although these differences are slight, they are also very very deep seated and have led to what we now know as 'Key Differences'.
Wars have begun over less.
Meanwhile, Why is it that hate Marmite but like Twiglets? ------------------
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.18 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: EnglishBob
Originally by: Rift Scorn Although these differences are slight, they are also very very deep seated and have led to what we now know as 'Key Differences'.
Wars have begun over less.
Meanwhile, Why is it that hate Marmite but like Twiglets?
You are obviously more concerned by texture than taste ?
Myself i prefer marmite since it allows one to carefully control the flavour dosage with the thickness of the spread layer. ....
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.18 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Vrizuh
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Vrizuh
So BoB are what, irrelevant? Nothing? If your corp came up against BoB, what state would it be in? BoB is a great corp, definately one of the greatest.
BOB is not a corp 
A mistake in terminology maybe? I saw it after I posted but I thought "bah, no-one will care about that right? Screw editing". You'll notice that further down I do correctly refer to BoB as an alliance. I *have* read the history forum @ RKK's site so I understand that you are or were very seperate entities.
I'm curious how deep your bonds go. Certainly from the outside you may as well be one corp. Do your individual member corps still have some slightly key differences? Do your alts share any corps together? (Making it harder to split)
I was just nitpicking for ****s and giggels not winding you up or anything 
As far as our bonds go , well for the short period i am in BOB i can tell you that everyone from leadership to the regular memeber back each other up anytime and any given day and thats one of the main reasons we are on top of our game , selfishness or delusional ppl do not belong in BOB period and they get booted mercilessly while they are allowed to fester and thrive in other alliances causing their cancer and their downfall . I aint gonna point out examples but i think you know what i mean . "Lord Samaiel, Rise "
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CDS Leader
Caldari Eve Forum Warriors
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Posted - 2006.12.18 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lord XSiV Yeah but he ran a great scam....
Are you saying ASCN was run purely as a personal profit making enterprise, where people would mine etc for the sake of stuffing CYVOK's pockets? Are you sure this is the case?
I wonder what happened to the Titan payout mind you...
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Rift Scorn
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.18 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: EnglishBob
Originally by: Rift Scorn Although these differences are slight, they are also very very deep seated and have led to what we now know as 'Key Differences'.
Wars have begun over less.
Meanwhile, Why is it that hate Marmite but like Twiglets?
The addition of spicy twiglets to the twiglet family really threw the doors wide open on that one though .........
Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03 |

Lion El'Johnson
Minmatar Lion's Emporium
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Posted - 2006.12.18 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Vrizuh So BoB are what, irrelevant? Nothing? If your corp came up against BoB, what state would it be in?
I have no idea what state my corp would be in. Considering my corp is only 30 some odd peeps against 2000????
But you see the difference is. I would fight them to the bitter end where as you guys just rolled over and gave up.
Originally by: Vrizuh He deserves at least some mutual respect.
Ermmmmm why???
I am sorry but hasn't done anything to earn this respect.
Originally by: Vrizuh Immediately we'll see 'brilliant' empire corp leaders hop on and talk about how they could've taken BoB and its all just hype.
I never said anything about being able to take on anyone. As i said earlier, my corp is too small. Also I aint an empire corp.
CYVOK should have been able to lead you to victory but,instead, he failed. Simple as that. No "Oh but his fingers touched the great goals" and all that crap. He FAILED!
Proper Regards, Lion El'Johnson, CEO Lion's Emporium.
"There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND."
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EnglishBob
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.18 21:34:00 -
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Spicy Twiglets? This is news to me, I must investigate further!
In the mean time, can the rest of you shut the hell up about ASCN/BoB, we are grappling with the mysteries of life, divining the nature of the universe and general biscuitry/savoury snack related conundrums here, we can hardly do it properly while wading through 'Cyvok etc etc/Molle blah-blah' type posts. ------------------
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Iva Soreass
Deadly Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.18 21:55:00 -
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Good luck to you Cyvok, and good luck to Virt. ----------------------------------------------- "Your momma is so fat, BoB thought she was a region and took her!" |

Apollo Balthar
Minmatar The Sausage Smuggling Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 17:53:00 -
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I just got word CYVOK is playing a new game:
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Bawldeux IV
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.20 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lord XSiV
Originally by: Cherry Picker
Originally by: Lord XSiV
Originally by: Marquis Dean I suppose leaving ASCN wasn't an option huh? So obviously you were benefitting from the arrangement or you'd A/ stop playing or B/ leave ASCN. Maybe defect to BoB because they were winning. That seems like something you'd do.
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Leaving under the threat of a possible 'blacklisting' where ASCN HC goes out of their way to make your existance miserable in the rest of the game? Consider that. Sticking around so I can say 'I told you so'? Take your pick.
Plus what fun would it be if you didn't have someone to help in the unveiling of the 'truth'....
oooh the 'truth'..............the 'truth' is you are just another greedy leech with a chip on his shoulder because he cannot get rich the easy way.Instead of being able to npc some of the best rats in Eve and mining the finest ores to line your pockets you now have to fight.Your contribution to 'The fight' was:0 kills,1 loss To summarise:
"Aiiiieeee,Aaieeeeee,I want loads of iskie but not when there is risks.Call the whaaaambulance cos I am leaving and it is all somebody elses fault"
Dude,just go to Empire with the rest of the whiners and leave the fighting to the people who have the balls for it. You sir,are all mouth and no trousers!
Well at least I have my corporate ticker on.....
I thought it was explained before on another post. Oh yeah, you are one of those 'slow' people and need a bit longer to digest information. Sometimes it would be a good idea to remove the reply to post link for some people....
slow...heh, you little troll are slow. It hasn't struck home that it isn't ascn you have to worry about, it is the members that have YOU on a KOS list.
You are a leech, a letch, and other things I can't post here due to rules...but in the game, you are KOS. So yes, we that have put you on the KOS list, will be hunting you, and we will make your life miserable...but first we have an infesation to worry about. Regardless of the outcome of the war...you are next for many of us.
Lord ZSIV's killboard...nothing on it, never been seen in a battle...only running away and hiding in a station/outpost/pos/empire-noob-corp...(oh he did die once...must have been 'playing' with his sheep)
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Exelsior
Endangered Species
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Posted - 2006.12.20 18:26:00 -
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Good luck with your real life Cyvok, you were a good leader when I was part of ASCN a year ago.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.21 10:42:00 -
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bye bye to cywok made the game interesting but ASCN rolls on will be smaller question is whats their next move
These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views
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Exelsior
Endangered Species
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Posted - 2006.12.21 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lord XSiV
Actually, now that I know ascn will be done shortly, the threat of blacklisting is moot.
Knowing the short attention span of ascn (compare close to that of a gnat) they will have forgotten me by tomorrow.
Pretty much end of story.
You know, somehow I reckon it's not the attention span of ASCN which is the reason for them forgetting you. It's quite simple really. You mean nothing. You proved to be a useless pilot when the difficult times came, and then proceeded to act like the other 10000 sheep on this part of the forums. Instead of standing with a principle, you fell with a whine. People won't remember you within an hour after you stop spamming these forums with smack. Because it's not what a man says that defines him, but what he does. And you haven't done anything noteworthy.
Congratulations on publically saying "I'm a wimp, I have no honour and no bravery, and i will go ahead and betray my corp and my alliance and hide in empire like many of the others." And then it occured to you that nobody would remember or talk of you that way, you'd have to do something special. So you went ahead and smack talked your own corp and alliance on the forums, even while still being a part of it. You deserve no respect, and your posts mean nothing for they are ridden with your filth. Vermin is the term used when referring to you. Well, you got your 5 minutes of fame now. Move along, Vermin.
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Gungankllr
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.21 21:16:00 -
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Strange how some people can't do something as simple as acknowledge the good that a person can do.
Moderators please lock.
Hidden in this signature is a secret message.
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00tricky
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.22 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr Strange how some people can't do something as simple as acknowledge the good that a person can do.
He obviously touched many people in different ways. We all make our enemies in this game, you live and you learn... or not.
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.22 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lord XSiV at the very least I do follow rules very well when it comes to games.
"Posting with an unidentified alt in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, please be sure to have the "Show Corporation" and "Show Alliance" checkboxes ticked in your forum settings.
The term alt for the purpose of these rules also includes anybody in an NPC corp."
Guess you just lost any credibility you had.
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Dark Shikari
What single item is larger than a jetcan?
My ego?
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Yawgmoth
Amarr Solar Storm Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:21:00 -
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Sorry to see you go CYVOK. RL takes priority over EVE. It was a pretty sweet run though, wasn't it? Got to see a lot happen. Stain fall appart, first deep space outpost, first Titan, desperate defense ruthless attack, the works. Despite what others will say he must have been doing something right to build an empire out in deep space. I know I would not want that job!
"So how did you survive this long in 0.0 with no MWD?" 'I didn't. I died. Alot' |

Trustus
mUfFiN fAcToRy Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 15:14:00 -
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Well the only i can say is that i dont know Cyvok or even been part of anything he have accomplished but one thing we all cant forget.
is thanks to players like him the game looks as it is. being a Director/Ceo/Alliance head is a pain in the a** and something that take much time it becomes boring and many takes for granted.
Doing all the work he have done is most of the time the most untankfull work some1 can do, you get always **** for everything bad and NEVER get good feedback on the great things you do. Every1 always forget is a person doing the derty job to make YOUR time better in eve.
So it a shame a person like him needs to leave the game to get all the honor he should have rcvd while he was active.
keep up the good work with what ever you decide to do in the future
/Trustus [url=www.muffin-factory.com/kb2?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=58021]
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.24 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr Strange how some people can't do something as simple as acknowledge the good that a person can do.
Unfortunately many people appear to adhere to the idea that "if i put you down then it raises me up". Sad. 
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.24 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Lord XSiV at the very least I do follow rules very well when it comes to games.
"Posting with an unidentified alt in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, please be sure to have the "Show Corporation" and "Show Alliance" checkboxes ticked in your forum settings.
The term alt for the purpose of these rules also includes anybody in an NPC corp."
Guess you just lost any credibility you had.
_w0rmy Caldari Provisions
Such a comedian.
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
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Pesadel0
Vagabundos
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Posted - 2006.12.24 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Lord XSiV at the very least I do follow rules very well when it comes to games.
"Posting with an unidentified alt in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, please be sure to have the "Show Corporation" and "Show Alliance" checkboxes ticked in your forum settings.
The term alt for the purpose of these rules also includes anybody in an NPC corp."
Guess you just lost any credibility you had.
LOl. -.-
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The Alien
Primary Targets
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Posted - 2006.12.24 19:03:00 -
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Oh the ironing!  
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