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pumkinlumpkin	Posted - 2006.12.14 04:37:00 - [241] cyvok you was the man. You was my ceo for a year and half. and aliance leader for 2+ years. I sometimes didnt agree with ya but I was the one blind, and You had the vision. You will always have you mark in eve and the hearts of you alliance and foe. Hope that you find what your looking for. /bows to a setting sun.
darklegionca	Posted - 2006.12.14 04:57:00 - [242] so does this mean the war is over or is bob going to keep going till all of acsn space is gone? ------------------------------------ darklegionca - One name. One legend.
SSgt Sniper Gallente Zekarus Ltd.	Posted - 2006.12.14 05:08:00 - [243] Originally by: CEO Pyrex Dark day for me, Cyvok was the reason my corp is in ASCN. i wont sing his praise anymore as i have done that in other threads but i do agree on one thing....the HATE Everyone goes too far.... Eve is a good game becuase it does inspire you to get deeply involved, but it goes too far.... We all get angry and want to try to get advantage on others....but it goes too far.... Look at any eve-o post and see how much hate and anger there is in this game. goto a random eve general discussion section and see "CCP SUCK GIVE ME THIS ETC" goto the sell forum and find the usual "OMG LOL AT YOU NUB SO AND SO DONT SELL FOR THAT" Were all a bunch of emotional car wrecks - we get angry at entertainment, we say abuse and hate to each other.... Look at how much hate went into the ascn-bob war posts for the last 3 months....pick one...see? is that healthy competition? no its mindgames and is sociopaths on soapboxes. (on both sides) You all see the char name and see the ticker and that evokes a emotional reaction "i like him" or "i hate him" and something else clicks that says "im gonna be an ***** to him" or "i agree with him yarrr" If people want to win wars they should do it in game and leave this forum clear because after 3 months of warring posts i honestly dont think i like the eve community anymore. At evefest i spoke with people from all the alliances in eve, top people who were so cool and nice and i did have to wonder "are these the same people that i saw write this and that?" if anyone spoke to me like i have been spoken to in these forums at the fest, Rekyavik hospital would be busy and that is my point! keyboard warriors! nice and safe saying outlandish stuff when your anonymous isnt it? were all civilised yet we can act like animals cos CCP let us get away with it! and i know i cant be found so that angry person cant harm me.... Unless something changes it will get worse. Alliances will use constant mind games of the forums as a weapon and the gaming press will continue to think of eve as "specialists only" while it dwindles into obscurity as a middle of the road MMORG. what do you think new players to the game thing of it when they come into this forum? CCPs playground concept doesnt work when you allow total free reign to a certain behaviour. Rant over CEO Pyrex QFT and signed CYV0K, if you change your mind I'll personally donate three days of my time to mining mins for "Steve II" Best wishes, enjoy Christmas. Reevaluate things after the new year. --------- Gallente need ONE ship with an ecm bonus option. JUST ONE.**
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.12.14 05:57:00 - [244] Originally by: SSgt Sniper Originally by: CEO Pyrex Dark day for me, Cyvok was the reason my corp is in ASCN. i wont sing his praise anymore as i have done that in other threads but i do agree on one thing....the HATE Everyone goes too far.... Eve is a good game becuase it does inspire you to get deeply involved, but it goes too far.... We all get angry and want to try to get advantage on others....but it goes too far.... Look at any eve-o post and see how much hate and anger there is in this game. goto a random eve general discussion section and see "CCP SUCK GIVE ME THIS ETC" goto the sell forum and find the usual "OMG LOL AT YOU NUB SO AND SO DONT SELL FOR THAT" Were all a bunch of emotional car wrecks - we get angry at entertainment, we say abuse and hate to each other.... Look at how much hate went into the ascn-bob war posts for the last 3 months....pick one...see? is that healthy competition? no its mindgames and is sociopaths on soapboxes. (on both sides) You all see the char name and see the ticker and that evokes a emotional reaction "i like him" or "i hate him" and something else clicks that says "im gonna be an ******* to him" or "i agree with him yarrr" If people want to win wars they should do it in game and leave this forum clear because after 3 months of warring posts i honestly dont think i like the eve community anymore. At evefest i spoke with people from all the alliances in eve, top people who were so cool and nice and i did have to wonder "are these the same people that i saw write this and that?" if anyone spoke to me like i have been spoken to in these forums at the fest, Rekyavik hospital would be busy and that is my point! keyboard warriors! nice and safe saying outlandish stuff when your anonymous isnt it? were all civilised yet we can act like animals cos CCP let us get away with it! and i know i cant be found so that angry person cant harm me.... Unless something changes it will get worse. Alliances will use constant mind games of the forums as a weapon and the gaming press will continue to think of eve as "specialists only" while it dwindles into obscurity as a middle of the road MMORG. what do you think new players to the game thing of it when they come into this forum? CCPs playground concept doesnt work when you allow total free reign to a certain behaviour. Rant over CEO Pyrex QFT and signed CYV0K, if you change your mind I'll personally donate three days of my time to mining mins for "Steve II" Best wishes, enjoy Christmas. Reevaluate things after the new year. And you would mine 3 days for someone who managed to loose the Titan in such reckless, careless manner? who shows no appreciation for the work invested into getting it for him? nothing to say really.. just amazing is ppl's stupidity and Generally I agree with Avon.. too many people try to look at his good sides, rather than the bad. What is it, did he die IRL?? lol.. Its great being a Gallente blasterpilot, aint it? Save Tranquility!
darklegionca Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.12.14 06:11:00 - [245] Edited by: darklegionca on 14/12/2006 06:15:49 Edited by: darklegionca on 14/12/2006 06:13:31 now i have to retype my question cuz some mod thinks im an alt how lame anyway now that cyvok is gone does this mean the war is over or is bob going to keep going till all of acsn space is gone ------------------------------------ darklegionca - One name. One legend.
Rick Thwaites Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.12.14 06:22:00 - [246] Originally by: Audrea Originally by: SSgt Sniper Originally by: CEO Pyrex Stuff more stuff And you would mine 3 days for someone who managed to loose the Titan in such reckless, careless manner? who shows no appreciation for the work invested into getting it for him? nothing to say really.. just amazing is ppl's stupidity and Generally I agree with Avon.. too many people try to look at his good sides, rather than the bad. What is it, did he die IRL?? lol.. Rather, too many people look at the bad. You are an idiot if you think he is a 14 year old, living out of the basement. Or a quake player. In my year of playing EvE I have not seen anything immature. Sure he lied, and he twisted (manipulated) events to raise 'morale' but that was all ingame, and anyone of you had you lead an alliance would have done the same. A lot of people don't realize how hard it would be to run a 5000 man alliance. He did the best he could. And as much as a lot of you don't like to believe it EVE and RL are closely related. Very closely. EVE is not a game you just leave at night, you wish your corpies nn, you sometimes meet up with them, you can go to fanfests, etc. When a guy as influential as Cyvok was leaves, then it is damn right to have a post like this, my only wish is that it was Cyvok himself. Although I guess with a lot of the people flaming someone who is leaving, I am not sure I would be able to take it! Let the guy be! When a friend moves away and you throw a party you don't tell everyone that Jimmy Friend is a jackass, stupid, steals mentos from your mother's purse and smells funny. No, rather you say his good traits, he tried hard, he had fun, he played hard and did what he thought was right. Sure he left his alliance in the dark about the Titan, but looking at all the spies in ASCN, I think it was damn right to in hindsight, otherwise there would have never been a Steve tolose, and this resignation would have come sooner. Sorry my paragraphs are disjointed, don't flow properly or whatnot. But my point gets across, and some of you need to feel your head. Disclaimer: My views represent my thoughts only, not those of my corp/alliance/mother's mentos in her purse/etc. -- Max sig dimensions are 400W x 120H - Cathath ([email protected]) Purple matches your eyes a little better, Catath. = )! Not the first time I have been told I am too big...
Nerogk Shorn Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.14 07:24:00 - [247] CYVOK, Good luck in the real world dude. I couldn't live having as much responsibility as you had in a game. I'd want to have a real life too. Although when I think about it, if I had a titan I would be so scared to lose it that when I finally actually did lose it, it would be a relief. If I lost a titan and lived through it and triumphed, then I'd know I could live through anything. I don't think that many people would wish you ill will out of game unless their life truly IS the game. Their intent is generally to cause you problems in game. Nevertheless, enjoy the real world mate. Teh Bulbasaur Wizard PS: I don't know if you'll find a "nicer" community in another game like WOW. Here's a video of some people in WOW ganking everyone at a funeral for someone that died in real life. Yarr PPS:I hope ISD doesn't mind my link to the WOW video... I'm only showing how much EVE roxors! yarr! <3 to Cyvok forevah D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
Krystian Caldari No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.14 08:02:00 - [248] Gl Cyvok. Take a much needed break. Cool down and comeback
Temerlyn Minmatar STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.14 08:14:00 - [249] The unfortunate thing about eve is it does take to much time to do anything that the casual player cannot realy achieve much. My corps attrition rate is immense as i have players staying up way later than they need to to get anything done. They burn out and leave the corp or eve. I only finished uni myself this year and not to long after finishing i have gotten a job in my prefered field. Now eve is not at the fore front and i can barely play a few hours at night and the weekends. I have considered packing in eve for this reason, if it we're not for my corp i would of left ages ago. CCP needs to bring fun back into this game, not work.
Lungorthin Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 08:21:00 - [250] All my best wishes go out to CYVOK. I take pleasure in RP propaganda smashing ingame opponents, but respect shall be given when respect is called for. Leading _any_ alliance requires you to quit RL I believe. It requires a lot of time and dedications. Loosing any big toy hurts, I remember when we lost our first freighter, filled to the brim with goodies, our pilot who lost it felt extremely down too. I can only start to imaging how CYVOK must feel now. But let us all not forget that this indeed is "just a game". Some computer code Bits on an remote Icelandic server were shifted, but ingame- and rl-life goes on.

gaz widdow Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.14 08:30:00 - [251] You may not have achived your own personal goals. But by anyone elses standards you bypassed them many times over. You set a standard which every other Allience had to follow. I believe you will be missed not only by the eve community but by some in CCP. GL in RL: CYVOK.
Joskken Inx J.H.E.N.R Pure.	Posted - 2006.12.14 08:43:00 - [252] Originally by: Troubadour Reading all of the replies makes me want to puke. The guy builds up a huge alliance, even builds a titan, and ****es it all away, and that is something to be proud of? He quit because he failed his alliance in the face of the eve community. Instead of being real about it, he trashed those who defeated him and quit the game in a temper tantrum. And whatever about his real life issues. We all have RL to deal with, it doesn't make us quit eve on a whim like that. He quit eve because CCP won't give him his(ASCN's) Titan back for a mistake that was his own fault, not because of some real life emergency. It's always a little sad when a big name quits the game, even if you don't really like them. But let's get real people, we all know why he really left, and it's not for the reasons in this flowery press release. While you've got your crystal ball that sees directly into other people's lives and can summarize oh-so-sweetly just how simple things really are (to you at least) can you tell me Saturday's Powerball numbers? I apologize for dignifying your...post with a response, but apparently nothing but Eve matters to you and woe be any of us who see it otherwise. Whatever, this game pays the bills and cooks, cleans, shops, and does your laundry too eh?
Ethan Kel The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2006.12.14 08:47:00 - [253] Edited by: Ethan Kel on 14/12/2006 08:50:23 Edited by: Ethan Kel on 14/12/2006 08:49:47 CYVOK It is with great sorrow that The Merchant Marines bid you farewell. We thank you humbly for all that you did for us and hope that whatever direction you take in RL or in other games that it provide you with all that you gave to every one else. The Merchant Marines members march proud and tall and smartly salute, eyes right, as they pass in review on the parade grounds past the bleachers and podium where CYVOK is standing. 21 GUN SALUTE!!!!! FIREWORKS LIGHT THE NIGHT THE SKY!!! BOOM! KRACKLE ! POP! ADMIRALS ATTEND CEREMONIES !!!! MILITARY PARADES PASS IN REVIEW !!! THEN A LONE BUGLE PLAYS TAPS EACH NOTE CRISP AND CLEAR SOFTLY FADING AS THE SUN SLOWLY SETS IN THE WESTERN SKY Fare well old friend
Ethan Kel The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2006.12.14 08:51:00 - [254] Edited by: Ethan Kel on 14/12/2006 08:51:21 repeat
Smith Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 08:52:00 - [255] Good luck to Cyvok in what what career path he chooses. Im sure people will be knocking your door down to recruit you.
Qual Gallente Cornexant Research	Posted - 2006.12.14 09:00:00 - [256] Originally by: Bawldeux IV Edited by: Bawldeux IV on 13/12/2006 19:04:34 Originally by: Qual Originally by: Leverton Originally by: Qual Its the new subtext of the ASCN propaganda: "EvE community is degrading. We lost be course CCP helps BoB and other cheating. EvE is ending and its all CCP's fault." Sorry, no, thats just not true. ASCN are getting slapped around be course of CYVOKs shortshightetness on behalf of his alliance. Its sad to see important players in eve hisotry leave, but I hate when they do it with a grand ***** you* to the comunity. Seeng the remaining ASCN people support that attitude annoys me. Can we PLEASE keep this civil and show respect to a great person? Hey, he started. I wasn't the one saying that eve (implicitly its community) was degrading. I would have let it go if Gungan didn't reapeat it. The comunity does not deserve that kind of low shots. So sorry, no respect until the comunity gets an appollogy really... (From Gungan will do...) Well, based on the fact that the message was posted to our private forums, not public, and a CCP puppet did post the screeny from our private forums on a CCP forum, against the ccp forum rules, I think CCP is the one that should apologize... as for your lame childish reasoning behind your flame...grow up. Even BoB thought the CCP endorsed post was wrong, and are showing honor in the forums concerning this subject...so why can't you? As you will notice by looking through the other thread, I DID let it go. I won't THIS time as Gungan repeated the message HERE in THIS thread that IS NOT taken form you own boards but a PUBLIC message. The only flame here is the one that Gungan tried to slip into an else pretty sane post. But thats what Gungan do: Post 90% sane stuff and add 10% propaganda. Be course MOST of it is sane, people tend to applaud it thus giving false credibility to the crap unless someone calls the bluff. "The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf
Pesadel0 Vagabundos THE H0RDE	Posted - 2006.12.14 09:01:00 - [257] Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 13/12/2006 22:47:53 This is mad. First, why isn't this in OoPE? Seriously, I don't care about CYVOK's real life. It has no place here at all. I am sure he is a great guy in rl, just like he is sure I am a 14yr old, quakeplaying, social misfit, who has to cheat at games to help forget I live in my mom's basement. It has nothing to do with the game, or the characters. Why was it included in the post? Next. CYVOK (who is just a character in a game remember) was not a nice person. Look at the accusations he threw at anyone who did better than him, be it G, or BoB, or whoever. Don't give me that "he built an alliance" stuff, because it is just focusing on the wrong end of it. I prefer "his paranoid delusions, insecurity, and lack of ability, directly contributed to the demise of Eve's largest alliance ... TWICE". Onwards. The spite and mallice of Eve is offending him? Riiiiight. Because CYVOK was ever the diplomat, wasn't he? Oh, no .. actually it would seem he was one of the worst offenders, oh the irony! Petition much? "Your rattle leaves the pram, wrecking the floor for tantrum damage". Seriously, WTF!?! So you lost a ship to a noobie mistake? We've all done it - I fell asleep and lost a HAC at a gate during this war, and I got ribbed for it for a while. Did I make up some crazy bug and petition it? Or lie to my corp and alliance to cover up my own stupidity? Of course not, why would I? Sure a Titan is a bit more of an investment than a HAC, but it is useless anyway right, so what's the big deal? BoB got what they want, why moan? Well, there is a big difference between wanting to beat someone in-game and wanting to force them out of it. I don't think anyone in BoB actually wants to force anyone in Eve out of the game, just out of their (our) space. If you can't see the difference then maybe you need to step away from the keyboard for a while. This whole saga in the history of Eve has seen the bluring of "in game" and "out of game" in a way that I find disturbing. Now ASCN would have you believe that it is BoB that are responsible for this, but I think otherwise. ASCN have repeatedly purposefully played that angle in their posts, and by doing so have created the monster they now complain about. Lastly: As the player behind the character was mentioned in the OP, I will say this to him: I honestly hope this break helps restore you enjoyment of Eve. If the day ever comes that we meet in a bar, the first drink is on me. I feel absolutely no ill feeling towards you as a person. Anything your character might have said or implied I can accept and forgive. Eve as a game can be a huge investment of not only time but emotion, and it can affect us in ways we would rather it didn't. We are not our avatars (no pun intended). QFT. Pretty much says what i wanted to say,but couldnt express it with words.
DarkFenix Caldari Pilots From Honour	Posted - 2006.12.14 10:39:00 - [258] Well, best of luck to Cyvok in whatever he goes onto. I'm sure he is a perfectly decent guy in real life. Just a shame he was a crap Titan pilot and alliance leader ingame .
Dawn Princess eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:01:00 - [259] Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 14/12/2006 02:35:56 Originally by: BlackSabbath i see lots of letters but the words dont mean $#!t go troll on some other forum. only people caring when you leave will be you and 2 of your alts CYVOK FOR DEV!!! Is that aimed at me personally, or at my character? I am still able to seperate the two, just as I did in my post on CYVOK, are you? Either you don't agree with my views, or you didn't understand my post - no matter which it is, it does not make your opinion any more valid than mine. To my mind that is just an excuse to allow you to be insulting but at the time say "nah, I am a nice guy really".
Muad'dib The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:16:00 - [260] From The Collective: Farewell CYVOK Muad'dib CEO The Collective

Lorna Green Lensmen	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:21:00 - [261] Cyvok, Because of you, I have flown through a Titan jump portal. This was one of the moments when I realised why I play this game! For that I will always be greatful. GL in the future. I'm sure you'll get your Eve mojo back!
Ironnight Caldari Bloody Needles	Posted - 2006.12.14 12:09:00 - [262] Edited by: Ironnight on 14/12/2006 14:00:26 Edited by: Ironnight on 14/12/2006 12:09:31 Building an alliance the size of ASCN is impressive, salute. Lets keep the talk of cheating and other slander out of this thread, if you have proof, post it in a new topic, if not just say notthing, thank you.
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Marogian eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.14 15:11:00 - [264] CYVOK has earned my respect more than anyone else in any online game I've ever played. I don't know what ASCN will be without him. If Virtuozzo can be even a small shadow of what CYVOK was he will be a great leader.
Almarez	Posted - 2006.12.14 15:53:00 - [265] My personal opinions about ASCN aside CYVOK was as respectful as a conquerer can be when ASCN kicked Tribal Souls out of Paragon Soul. I had several conversations with him and he kept one of the station in Paragon Sould with the same name, a name that honored an alliance mate that we lost in real life. He gained a lot of respect from many of us for that. In any case, good luck to ASCN, I think you will need it.
KentachiSamurai g guild	Posted - 2006.12.14 15:58:00 - [266] Good luck CYVOK, your efforts will not be forgotton...
Vathar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 16:06:00 - [267] I definitely don't approve of many things cyvok said or did in the past. He has been an enemy in the current war, and I have no doubt he did his best to protect ASCN. No matter what, putting together a major power such as ASCN requires skills and dedication and I respect that, even if I don't approve of the methods. Anybody denying the impact of Cyvok on this game needs to pince his nose and take a deep fart to clear his brain! Farewell and good luck for whatever awaits you in the future. Originally by: Radeberger If you plan to make your alliance combat based, recruit pvpers with mining alts rather than miners with pvp alts
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 16:12:00 - [268] I wish CYVOC good luck in the future. HeÆs a good guy and deserves to be recognized as a historic figure in EVE for all of his accomplishments. That being said, letÆs not forget how ASCN was formed and let others learn from as to why itÆs failing at the moment. Talking bad about ppl that allowed ASCN to exist was not a good idea. ATUK/DICE/BoB Lite FTW. Leaders that are not on the front lines with their troops will always have hard time earning respect of their soldiers when the s**t hits the fan. During peace times, they might be great, but during war, they better be leading gangs/fleets if they expect their soldiers to unquestionably sacrifice themselves for their alliance. Dying for a paper leader is just not motivating enough in a long run. Propaganda can bite you in the ass if itÆs not truthful or backed up with facts/proof. Spinning/lying to their members without any proof and then being called out on it in public will hurt more then motivate. To the average ASCN soldier, good fighting you guys. All of you that are on the front lines deserve my outmost respect and you should be proud of your resilience and commitment. Keep it up. Win or lose, you guys are winners and are the reason why we log in to the game every day. See you in space. The truth will set you free
Ambre Blanche Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2006.12.14 16:13:00 - [269] Originally by: CEO Pyrex what do you think new players to the game thing of it when they come into this forum? They are in dismay to say the least... But to say the truth, the EVE Online forums are no worse than the WoW ones, or the ones of any other PvP games nowadays. They are just the playground of thousand of frustrated idiots who can safely vomit with a laughable spelling their ignorance and their disrespect to any target their tiny mind can grasp. They are not here to learn so they don't listen. They are not here to help either so they can wreck havoc over the hard work of the always too few decent players. I was hopeful to be able to join one day or another an alliance such as Ascendant Frontier, because what is their objective is also mine, because I admire what they did and because this game shouldn't be the exclusive playground of PvPers and Griefers, whatever they say. Peaceful people should be able to build things in deep space, with no other purpose than to make it even more beautiful... /bow Cyvok.
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.12.14 17:02:00 - [270] Just a game in the same respect that football (soccer) is just a game. It drives our emotions and is a big part of our lives, responsible for many memories good and bad. I say to you "life is just a game, enjoying yourself is the objective." All the best CYVOK matey o/ Gl Virt. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.



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