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Jag Panzer
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:10:00 -
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Virtuozzo, best of Luck in the near future.
CYVOK you will always be remembered in time for what you achieved in Eve and what you did for your ASCN.
You will b miss. GL in your RL and success in everything you do.
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cordy
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:15:00 -
[152]
Cyvok, I already said what i wanted to say but wanna wish you all the luck in eve aswell as real life.
To virt, you will do great, just keep in mind this is just a game unlike some people say it isnt, those people really should take a step into the real world. Just keep my tech two lub parties going i heard they got famouse :P
Why did God create men before women? There's always a rough draft before the masterpiece
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:15:00 -
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True Eve is more than a game for most. Again true, it's a pretty good indication for work ethic/drive and passion for the real life human being behind the keyboard.
When Real Life and Eve Collides, it's Eve that should be put on the burner or in this day and age, the recycle bin on your hard drive. I've never met the guy, in any form. The Alliance I'm a member of has had the few skirmishes with ASCN but they were before my time, even though I've been playing on and off for several years I've been an empire carebear loving producer dude. Now that I've seen for myself Alliance politics I can safely say that there's nowhere else it exists except Eve. Short of running your own 1000+ employee company I don't think it's possible TO KNOW what it takes to mould, weld and lead different people to a common goal and succeed, even for a short time, let alone the long haul.
Alliances like BoB, ASCN and a whole host of others make Eve interesting. Without the drama, the keyboard bashing and the inter-alliance politics this would be a vacious experience without meaning or merit. We might as well play that other online game.
I say Good luck to the real life person behind the keyboard and feel proud of what you've accomplished, and should be mentioned on a your resume as well as your military accomplishments. Good Fortune. Life is about memories the more the better. Looking for CCP to improve availability of their GTC's, for non card carriers! |

Shardrael
Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:23:00 -
[154]
Originally by: inara reynolds
Originally by: Shardrael what pyrex said word for word..... the hate has gone and is still going to far
/salute Cyvok I will always be honoroed to fly with you
Cyvok was a great leader who gave up.
Cyvok is a stepping stone for the world of Eve. Other leaders will come who will do it better than Cyvok. As the leader he ultimately failed. To HATE. How does that surprise you? It was said many times that Eve is a reflection of RL. OK, Middle East is one example when ppl are getting along so well. So Eve is as bad as RL. Eve is supposed to be worse than RL.
Greatest leaders learn to reflect hate. Cyvok reached his ability. He lost titan due to a bug. He lost his empire due to his human nature. He had "enough".
BoB military machine psychology works apparently better than anything else in the game. Cyvok's way was not good enough. Can ASCN pull an RA trick and get their glory back? We are about to see.
Thew game just became hundred times more interesting.
I am not surprised in the least, it has been a downward spiral I have witnessed from the time of joining this game.
regardless of that fact I am so very sad for you and any like you that only wanna see the hate, it is a sad way to be and tends to be a very slippery slope.
its a possibility as well that some may come and do what cyvok has done better in the future, or they may not, regardless the point is the man accomplished some legendary things in his time ingame; you can either step back and pay tribute to a great player of this game or try and demean him as he goes out the door..... that choice is yours.
but I ask this how do you want to be remembered?
cyvok can come in here and see both friend and foe alike congratulating him on what he achieved and wishing him well.... personally I think that in and of itself is a major accomplishment of note, it is no easy task to be respected by friend and foe alike.
and qual.... wake up man... appology to the eve community for a low blow.... ffs get a firm grip on reality you seem to have lost it.
Originally by: Pinky Denmark
Caldari have other options like using rails or train for other ships/weapons...
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Bawldeux IV
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:34:00 -
[155]
Edited by: Bawldeux IV on 13/12/2006 19:04:34
Originally by: Qual
Originally by: Leverton
Originally by: Qual Its the new subtext of the ASCN propaganda: "EvE community is degrading. We lost be course CCP helps BoB and other cheating. EvE is ending and its all CCP's fault." Sorry, no, thats just not true. ASCN are getting slapped around be course of CYVOKs shortshightetness on behalf of his alliance. Its sad to see important players in eve hisotry leave, but I hate when they do it with a grand ***** you* to the comunity. Seeng the remaining ASCN people support that attitude annoys me.
Can we PLEASE keep this civil and show respect to a great person?
Hey, he started. I wasn't the one saying that eve (implicitly its community) was degrading. I would have let it go if Gungan didn't reapeat it. The comunity does not deserve that kind of low shots. So sorry, no respect until the comunity gets an appollogy really... (From Gungan will do...)
Well, based on the fact that the message was posted to our private forums, not public, and a CCP puppet did post the screeny from our private forums on a CCP forum, against the ccp forum rules, I think CCP is the one that should apologize...
as for your lame childish reasoning behind your flame...grow up.

Even BoB thought the CCP endorsed post was wrong, and are showing honor in the forums concerning this subject...so why can't you?
To Cyvok, sorry to see you step down, but I do understand. Good luck and god-speed to you sir.
Good write up to explain copyright, to get an idea why the screen shot was in violation to post.
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Davlin Lotze
Raging Destruction
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: CEO Pyrex Dark day for me, Cyvok was the reason my corp is in ASCN. i wont sing his praise anymore as i have done that in other threads but i do agree on one thing....the HATE
Everyone goes too far....
Eve is a good game becuase it does inspire you to get deeply involved, but it goes too far....
We all get angry and want to try to get advantage on others....but it goes too far....
Look at any eve-o post and see how much hate and anger there is in this game. goto a random eve general discussion section and see "CCP SUCK GIVE ME THIS ETC" goto the sell forum and find the usual "OMG LOL AT YOU NUB SO AND SO DONT SELL FOR THAT"
Were all a bunch of emotional car wrecks - we get angry at entertainment, we say abuse and hate to each other....
Look at how much hate went into the ascn-bob war posts for the last 3 months....pick one...see? is that healthy competition? no its mindgames and is sociopaths on soapboxes. (on both sides)
You all see the char name and see the ticker and that evokes a emotional reaction "i like him" or "i hate him" and something else clicks that says "im gonna be an ******* to him" or "i agree with him yarrr"
If people want to win wars they should do it in game and leave this forum clear because after 3 months of warring posts i honestly dont think i like the eve community anymore.
At evefest i spoke with people from all the alliances in eve, top people who were so cool and nice and i did have to wonder "are these the same people that i saw write this and that?" if anyone spoke to me like i have been spoken to in these forums at the fest, Rekyavik hospital would be busy and that is my point! keyboard warriors! nice and safe saying outlandish stuff when your anonymous isnt it? were all civilised yet we can act like animals cos CCP let us get away with it! and i know i cant be found so that angry person cant harm me....
Unless something changes it will get worse. Alliances will use constant mind games of the forums as a weapon and the gaming press will continue to think of eve as "specialists only" while it dwindles into obscurity as a middle of the road MMORG. what do you think new players to the game thing of it when they come into this forum?
CCPs playground concept doesnt work when you allow total free reign to a certain behaviour.
Rant over
CEO Pyrex 
I always knew you were one of "the good guys" in DDC, but wow....you summarized pretty much all my thoughts and feelings about Eve since I left ASCN a year ago or so, or whatever it has been. Wonderful, insightful post!
Just remember though, Cyvok has erred, as we all have, towards the forces of this "hate" you speak of. He has failed, like we all have, to "do the right thing" on occassion. He has looked the other way when he should have taken a principled, instead of an expedient stand on events.
But despite these "imperfections" and moments of poor decision, shouldn't we all take your advice and step back and cool off a bit and deal with this tendency to "hate" on each other in a more constructive manner that is in the spirit of what a good MMORPG community can be?
Don't want to go on and on here, but still I appreciate your well thought out post and hope that others seriously look at what it really says without trying to exempt themselves from the indictment it passes on this entire community.
Davlin Lotze
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Skooney
Gallente Universal Agencies
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:04:00 -
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I have not had the honour of meeting CYVOK, yet I have followed alot of his accomplishments in EVE since I started. I will echo what others have said, your accomplishments and legacy will live forever with EVE - Well done!
Universal Agencies
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Whiro Teiuq
Minmatar Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:05:00 -
[158]
Set a long skill training, and take a break, C. Start fresh.
Be seein' you. ~Whiro |

Solaria Taonas
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:06:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Major Tarsis Best of Luck to Virtuozzo.
CYVOK you will be remembered in time for what you achieved in Eve and what you did for your Alliance.
Best of luck to both in the Future.
yea, like losing the first Titan in EVE history.
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Reto
The Last Resort
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: inara reynolds
Originally by: Shardrael what pyrex said word for word..... the hate has gone and is still going to far
/salute Cyvok I will always be honoroed to fly with you
Cyvok was a great leader who gave up.
Cyvok is a stepping stone for the world of Eve. Other leaders will come who will do it better than Cyvok. As the leader he ultimately failed. To HATE. How does that surprise you? It was said many times that Eve is a reflection of RL. OK, Middle East is one example when ppl are getting along so well. So Eve is as bad as RL. Eve is supposed to be worse than RL.
Greatest leaders learn to reflect hate. Cyvok reached his ability. He lost titan due to a bug. He lost his empire due to his human nature. He had "enough".
BoB military machine psychology works apparently better than anything else in the game. Cyvok's way was not good enough. Can ASCN pull an RA trick and get their glory back? We are about to see.
Thew game just became hundred times more interesting.
got alt ?
Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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Kharakan
Amarr Morticus Impendium
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:19:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Solaria Taonas
Originally by: Major Tarsis Best of Luck to Virtuozzo.
CYVOK you will be remembered in time for what you achieved in Eve and what you did for your Alliance.
Best of luck to both in the Future.
yea, like losing the first Titan in EVE history.
Who the hell are you?
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain (to Dark Shikari) HAHAHA I KNOW YOUR ACCOUUNT NAME TIME TO DIE
this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:27:00 -
[162]
Mad respect for you CYVOK. Also i give props to AF. Hang in there guys and gals and keep your heads up high! Good Luck to the new leadership... Lots of alliances will be paying close attention to your Alliance to see if you can fill very large shoes...
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Rolled
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:29:00 -
[163]
Few in this game will ever achieve what CYVOK has. CYVOK's leaving is a loss to the entire community of Eve.
Take care CYVOK.
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Ethan Kel
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:35:00 -
[164]
Edited by: Ethan Kel on 13/12/2006 19:52:02
On Behalf of The Merchant Marines we express or sorrow at the loss of such a great player and wish him all the best in his RL Endeavors.
We also thank him and the ASCN for the times we had especially in finding our footing in EVE again.
Thank you ASCN and GOOD LUCK CYVOK !!!
THE CROWDS ROAR AND CHEER FOR CYVOK!!!!
21 GUN SALUTE!!!!!
FIREWORKS LIGHT THE NIGHT THE SKY!!!
BOOM!
Krackle!
POP!
ADMIRALS ATTEND CEREMONIES !!!! WILD RAVE PARTIES ALL WEEKEND !!!
FULL DRESS MILITARY PARADES!
MAYOR GIVES KEYS TO CITY !!!
TICKER TAPE PARADES!!!
AND THE BAND PLAYS ON !
FAREWELL CYVOK !
Ethan
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Afonso Henriques
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:36:00 -
[165]
It is funny seeing the hypocrisy of other ascn members here honestly. Ws it not cyvok that called bob and aaa memebrs losers and drags on society? So, because he loses his titan and has an emo fit the whole community is suppose to foget what bad things he said and did?
If I were you I wouldnt go around acting like you are the innocents here. If you want to take the time to thank him for what hes done that is fine. He did a lot for the people that played with him. But, he also made a lot of enemies by making out of game insults at a lot of players. You're lucky a lot of the communtiy he has insulted horribly have the respect for the eve community and for their corp/alliance and dont have at it here.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:42:00 -
[166]
I'll show respect for someone who dragged ASCN kicking and screaming to where it's at today. That's a lot of hard work and coordination, there.
I don't have to respect the bridge-burning give-me-back-my-toy tantrum mixed in with the goodbyes, though. Instead of leaving with style, he soapboxed. That's the only issue I'd shake my head at.
Respect the man, and the things he did. Let the rest deservedly fade away.
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Bawldeux IV
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:44:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Afonso Henriques It is funny seeing the hypocrisy of other ascn members here honestly. Ws it not cyvok that called bob and aaa memebrs losers and drags on society? So, because he loses his titan and has an emo fit the whole community is suppose to foget what bad things he said and did?
If I were you I wouldnt go around acting like you are the innocents here. If you want to take the time to thank him for what hes done that is fine. He did a lot for the people that played with him. But, he also made a lot of enemies by making out of game insults at a lot of players. You're lucky a lot of the communtiy he has insulted horribly have the respect for the eve community and for their corp/alliance and dont have at it here.
post with your main alt-boy
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Kharakan
Amarr Morticus Impendium
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:48:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Winterblink I'll show respect for someone who dragged ASCN kicking and screaming to where it's at today. That's a lot of hard work and coordination, there.
I don't have to respect the bridge-burning give-me-back-my-toy tantrum mixed in with the goodbyes, though. Instead of leaving with style, he soapboxed. That's the only issue I'd shake my head at.
Respect the man, and the things he did. Let the rest deservedly fade away.
Do we get a 'goodbye' WDA? ;)
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain (to Dark Shikari) HAHAHA I KNOW YOUR ACCOUUNT NAME TIME TO DIE
this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
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Sochin
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:48:00 -
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- Spiral's post was not CCP endorsed, and he apologized.
- The Titan was not lost to a bug, despite Cyvok's attempt to use his goodbye post to again claim that BoB cheats.
- Just because ASCN is losing a war doesn't mean EVE is on a "downward spiral". You guys are entirely to self-absorbed. The rest of us think the game is doing better then ever.
- It is possible to respect Cyvok's efforts to build ASCN and simultaneously hold him in contempt for his actions and statements.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Robert Dobbs
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Voltron
I only found it shocking b/c of several BOB posts as of late, I fully expected to see an onslaught of taunts and jabs thrown at CYVOK
Whatever our experiences with the character ingame may be, it is always sad to see people leave the game. It's the people that make EVE.
Remember, there's a lot more roleplaying in this game than at first meets the eye :) -
--------- *snip* - no profanity allowed in sigs, even if McCreedy said it - Tirg |

Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:56:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Kharakan Do we get a 'goodbye' WDA? ;)
You're quitting ASCN too? :P
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Abriana Overlord
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:57:00 -
[172]
/emote role play mode off
Cyvok, yep you certainly achieved alot, That is something of which you can be proud.
Many of the posts in this thread have eluded to eve being in the blood, I think this is the case.
I expect you to return one day, if anything because there is not another game out there that can currently compete on the community, teamwork, or pure funnage level.
Running alliances can eventually get to feel like a job, that is when the fun starts going away.
Take a change of pace, your account is paid up for ages anyhow and just recharge.
IMO you just need a clean break for a bit
All the best and stuffs
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Afonso Henriques
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.12.13 20:08:00 -
[173]
Edited by: Afonso Henriques on 13/12/2006 20:08:51
Originally by: Bawldeux IV
Originally by: Afonso Henriques It is funny seeing the hypocrisy of other ascn members here honestly. Ws it not cyvok that called bob and aaa memebrs losers and drags on society? So, because he loses his titan and has an emo fit the whole community is suppose to foget what bad things he said and did?
If I were you I wouldnt go around acting like you are the innocents here. If you want to take the time to thank him for what hes done that is fine. He did a lot for the people that played with him. But, he also made a lot of enemies by making out of game insults at a lot of players. You're lucky a lot of the communtiy he has insulted horribly have the respect for the eve community and for their corp/alliance and dont have at it here.
post with your main alt-boy
It is my main artard. If you could login and stay alive long enough you could see that...
ASCN is doomed to fail because you to this very dy continue to blame everyone but yourselves. So go and have your emo fit too.
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Abandon AllHope
Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.13 20:11:00 -
[174]
My best to ASCN, Celestial Horizon, and Cyvok.
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EL TITAN
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 20:14:00 -
[175]
never knew you personally, but leading an alliance of 4000 people must be hard, respect Cyvok, take care and good luck. hey being the first person to ever fly a titan in eve is nothing to be ashamed of either ;o
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Zrevak Ashek
RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.13 20:18:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Zrevak Ashek on 13/12/2006 20:18:30 Best of luck.
Now, you (CYVOK) could allways become another one of Seleene's minions, as she has a habit of collecting burned out, former, alliance leaders into her ranks.
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niroshido
Caldari Frontline Defense Force Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 20:19:00 -
[177]
ASCN alliance rank NO.1 4000+ players
station ranks: NO.1 ASCN 16 outposts??
1st confirmed Titan owner: CYVOK of ASCN
not to mention countless other things there alliance achieved and what CYVOK helped them to achieve
CYVOK achieved things in EVE that no one has and for that i believe CYVOK should not leave, its silly to leave over a titan loss ( i know that rl was the main excuse but..)
well done on your achievements CYVOK
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Troubadour
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.12.13 20:21:00 -
[178]
Reading all of the replies makes me want to puke. The guy builds up a huge alliance, even builds a titan, and ****es it all away, and that is something to be proud of? He quit because he failed his alliance in the face of the eve community. Instead of being real about it, he trashed those who defeated him and quit the game in a temper tantrum. And whatever about his real life issues. We all have RL to deal with, it doesn't make us quit eve on a whim like that. He quit eve because CCP won't give him his(ASCN's) Titan back for a mistake that was his own fault, not because of some real life emergency. It's always a little sad when a big name quits the game, even if you don't really like them. But let's get real people, we all know why he really left, and it's not for the reasons in this flowery press release.
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Remmington Daniels
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 20:27:00 -
[179]
Eve politics aside. He does sound like a nice bloke IRL. Good luck to him in his future endeavors.
I'm sure we'll see him again. Back to cause more mayhem :)
GL dude
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Raptorius
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.13 20:28:00 -
[180]
Good Luck Cyvok.
I'm sure you'll do just fine and hope you find the hunger for Eve again.
/Salute Sig removed, please keep it below the 24000 byte limit, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus |
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