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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:00:00 -
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A pro-celebrity death-match challenge is hereby made to;
ôTankCEOö of Biomass Cartel (Foresaken Alliance)
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ôTankukö of Cyberdyne Industries (New Venal Alliance)
The terms of the challenge are as follows;
Tankuk is tired of the uncertainty surrounding the reputation of Tank ôthe gankö CEO, and wishes to settle the argument about which of the two armoured fighting vehicles of Eve is the greatest PvP fighter.
It is hereby suggested that a neutral 0.0 system be selected, wherein the two ôtanksö will join a gang and battle it out to the death to determine which of the two is literally; ôtop tankö of the Eve star cluster.
Rules to include;
1. No interference in the fight from any outside agency is to be permitted.
2. An unarmed second from each camp to be allowed to remain to proximity as witness to ensure that fair play is observed.
3. We suggest that Archain of the Space Invaders might be selected as an observer to film the ôclash of the tanksö for posterity and general amusement.
4. All legal layouts and module/weapon combos allowed. No quarter is to be asked or given. Logging off; fleeing the field; or misc. cowardice is to be considered admission of defeat and abandonment of name and honour.
5. Both participants must pre-publish the ships they intend to use in the battle, and only arrive at the scene of the contest in the pre-publicised ship class.
6. The battle will begin at 100km range with the signal from both seconds - and will continue to the bitter end.
7. Since this is to be contest of arms and vigorous martial courage it is asked that profane smack talk be minimised and the focus remain of pure destructive engagement until conclusion.
So, at this time we await response from the TankCEO camp, as to their manÆs acceptance of this challenge.
Until them, I leave you,
Love and peace (and the clash of the titanic tanks)
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:05:00 -
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No ECM/Damps and you got yourself a fight. Also, I choose the system, when and where.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:28:00 -
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Archain has agreed to Video it too to show the masses....
EVE Celebrity Deathmatch Part 1
I hope you guys "GET IT ON" soon :p
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Lord ofRedemption
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:34:00 -
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Sounds intresting.I look forward to the fight..May the best TANK win
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Retirement closing in .
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:37:00 -
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I am instructed to respond to mr "Tank" CEO thuswise;
There can be no restrictions on the loadout since it limits the flexibility and uncertainty of the engagement. There must be risk ... for there to be worth and honour in the fight.
Also we cannot allow you to choose the system. Though we will permit your second to negotiate with our second on the selection of venue.
So .. a response mr Tank CEO?
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Mastema
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:44:00 -
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So can we watch?
Research with Duvolle Laboratories or you'll end up in the meat grinder!
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:50:00 -
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So can we watch?
Wasn't Amarr today enough to supply you with the answer?
"NO!". Least not everyone that'd be interested in watching 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Krac
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:51:00 -
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why not just do it on chaos |
LordXL
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:51:00 -
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Whoot!!! Whoot!! GO TANK CEO GO!!!
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 22/11/2003 21:52:32
Aviously, Jade, you don't know the rules of challenging a person, the person challenged, chooses the rules. You do not make the rules. As I stated, There will be NO ECM/DAMPS and I will choose when and where the match will take place. TankUk seemed fine with NO ECM/DAmps rule.
No compliance with rules, welp, guess no match then.
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Lord Slappy
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:52:00 -
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No ECM/Damps and you got yourself a fight. Also, I choose the system, when and where.
...stop making excuses, and setting others up, you have no honor and have proven it many times.
The system should be decided by anyone outside this griefing POS's influence.
If TankyPoo can't handle it, he can conceed that he sucks, is a griefing POS, and will quit EVE once and for all. (easy for him to kill noobs, but when he is wooped like the redheaded stepchild he is, he whines about lag...)
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Lord Slappy
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 22/11/2003 21:52:32
Aviously, Jade, you don't know the rules of challenging a person, the person challenged, chooses the rules. You do not make the rules. As I stated, There will be NO ECM/DAMPS and I will choose when and where the match will take place. TankUk seemed fine with NO ECM/DAmps rule.
No compliance with rules, welp, guess no match then.
STFU you POS and show up at teh location they decide, not one you can have your buddies to back you up.
COWARD is all i see when looking at TankyPoo, a scared POS unless he has his gang to back up his mouth...(hear that clucking sound, like a chicken, coming from Tanks direction...)
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Stue
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:54:00 -
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Sounds interesting. I wonder why there havent been such public deathmatches before. And having a video of it surely is the nicest feauture.
But i think there have to be restrictions in ECM/Dampening fitting. The fitting and class of the ships are to be publically announced before the fight. So the chances of each participant can mostly be derived from the fitting of both ships.
If changes to the fitting are allowed AFTER the fitting announcement, it will most probably result in ECM pokering. Who can beat the others fitting before the fight even starts?
I think this should be taken into consideration. You wouldnt want the losing parting to complain about the challenge's rules and procedures afterwards.
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Captain Lugnut
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 22/11/2003 21:52:32
Aviously, Jade, you don't know the rules of challenging a person, the person challenged, chooses the rules. You do not make the rules. As I stated, There will be NO ECM/DAMPS and I will choose when and where the match will take place. TankUk seemed fine with NO ECM/DAmps rule.
No compliance with rules, welp, guess no match then.
I see a coward alrighty, hide tank hide, you are afraid now we see, you are making more excuses now instead of standing up 1-vs-1, you want to hide behind excuses.
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Triniton
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:57:00 -
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somebody gag lord zlappy kthx, ppl like him are killing these forum¦s.
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Lord Slappy
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:59:00 -
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somebody gag lord zlappy kthx, ppl like him are killing these forum¦s.
whats the matter little kiddie, can't handle someone with an opinion you don't like?
Its all within the rules, RP'ed and all, without any swearing, so the only issue is, YOU don't like what I have to say, well...WAAAAAA, now you want to cry to a MOD...GTFU
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Triniton
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:00:00 -
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lol endyourself litle alt.
ZOMBIE PRUNES! |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:10:00 -
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In response to TankCEO ... there are no rules of challenge m'dear in the court of public opinion.
You have been offered an entirely fair 1v1 contest of skill and combat talent.
Everyone can see that.
You may of course turn away and walk from the challenge ... that is your right.
But you may have to live with the laughter and jeers of the crowd ringing in your ears for a while yet.
Tankuk has told me he doesn't care whether he wins or if he loses ... he just wants to fight you by the terms expressed.
PS
To the chap that suggested it be done on Chaos.
Are you souless?
The spice of this fight is in the risk of Tank CEO's ship and implants ;)
Courage demands risk as a pre-requisite!
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:11:00 -
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Personally, I don't give a **** about this match.
I made the rules and its simple.
- No ECM/Damps.
- I choose When and where.
- The system will be 0.0 and the only people in that system with be me, Tank UK and Archain which will be in a frigate he chooses.
- The match will be in a place, in middle of no where, we will be in a gang. He can be the leader if he likes. But IF anyone enters the gang he will aviously be disqualified.
Those are the rules, plain and simple. I don't care what you guys think of me wether I have skills or not. IT all goes down to the fight. You wanna think i suck, well go right ahead, see if I care.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:14:00 -
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Welp, since you aviously do not know the rules of challenges, therefore, I will not fight with the rules allowing ECM. I don't give a **** about the fight, you can go ahead and say Tank UK is better then me, I just don't care. I have nothing to prove here, I liad down the guidelines for me to fight in this match and you have refused to comply. I for one will not waste my time to goto a 1v1 fight just to be jammed and fired upon.
Like i said, I have nothing to prove, I dont care if you guys think i have skills or not.
I will fight by those rules I stated, plain n simple, its up to you. Done posting.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:15:00 -
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In the meantime, the Forsaken Alliances forces, consisting of Space Invaders, Zombies and Valkrye pilots defeated the NVA forces while odds were 25vs9.
2 scorps, 1 tempest and a lot of cruisers were shot down.
The rest of the NVA fleet decided to stay by the Venal Defensive Doctrine (aka run for the mountains and take cover).
Rual Storge was blasted to pieces while making funny faces from 100km away, on the border of the local grid.
Jade Constantine commented: "Well it seems like you blew the crap out of a load of our ships again"
But alas, it has not all been victories for the freedom fighters.
Today in a sad incident, the Alliance Chat channel of our forces was stormed by the NVA, in a crippling move that nearly made us surrender the war. It was devastating, it wass a great blow, but we will survive.
NVA Members were reported to have said "All your channels are belong to us, all our battleships are belong to you!" Codebreakers are working on it as we speak.
The Carebear emperor, who recently awarded his champions with uber battleships commented "No i do not think that the lag was unbearable, or that the event was ghey. I dont agree with those who complain that they were stuck for 2 hours either. I definatly cannot say that the RP was very ghey, or that the universe collapsed for a reboot when our home system got invaded by people that thought this event actually had a point. And over all, the event did turn out just like we planned. Thx for your time. I think i'll have a cookie."
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In other news, the NVA, in a last-ditch PR effort, have challenged Tank CEO to a 1v1 duel with their own Tank UK.
The battle has already been labled as a "battle of tanks" by the Sports Critics of the Caldari State, yet many of them have reminded the public that the NVA has a history of inviting people to 1v1 and ambushing them.
When threatened with public humiliation in the form of a "forum challenge" , Tank CEO responded:
"I dont care."
Jade Constantine was shocked by this unbelievable answer, and she was last spotted in a jungle on y-4cfk prime, running around naked. Local journalists who went to take pictures came back terrified, and were heard mumbling "omg she's a man, she's a man! who could have guessed?!".
The whole universe is waiting for the outcome of this great event. Even the Ghey Carebear Emperor of the Ghey Amarr has been reported to have put money on Tank CEO.
Jamyl Sarum, the Former Imperial Griefer-heir, whose home system (sarum prime) has been the scene of the piratical heresy of Tank CEO, was enraged by the actions of the Carebearking (a popular name for Emperor Kor-Azor). He commented:
"Omg thx Tank, i was looking for an excuse to start a civil war, you r teh r0x0r"
Political Experts say the statement is very subjective.
And thats News From Across the Universe.
Viceroy the Bald.
Channel 4
Venal
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:18:00 -
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LOL, what a great story Viceroy, thanks for the laugh
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EvilEric
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:19:00 -
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TankCEO... why do not want ECM/Dampners by the way?
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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:21:00 -
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TankCEO... why do not want ECM/Dampners by the way?
Because the fight will be all about
- Having the most ECCM, or/and
- Having the most ECM
- Having the lowest locking time?
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Lliad
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:39:00 -
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emm there is no point in using ecm> it is no test of skill. Especially if you have to declare the ship before you come. As then it is simple to mount a stupid amount of specific jammers.
There would be no need of scramblers on the setup as if you warp out you lose.
So really drop ecm for a skill bassed 1v1.
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Rizzy
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:42:00 -
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Tankuk would whoop tank ceo and he knows it, thats why hes chicken :)
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Maasu
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:49:00 -
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Edited by: Maasu on 22/11/2003 22:49:42
Chaos would be a good idea to test PvP ability.
But part of the fun of PvP is the anxiety brought about with tranquility combat, so much to lose, its great :)
Maasu.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:50:00 -
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Edited by: Veruna Caseti on 22/11/2003 22:52:00
Tank CEO please point us to the "Rules of Challenges" you keep referring to where it says the person challenged gets to decide every detail of the fight.
I ask rhetorically, because you can't. No such rule exists except in your head. If you can't fight in an open match in a venue chosen mutually and with witnesses from both sides, then simply refuse to fight.
Saying it's because they "don't understand the rules of challenges" is a really weak excuse. "Cop-out" some might say.
"You challenged me, so I say you're not allowed to equip any weapons, but I am. We meet in my homesystem, all of my corpmates are there but none of yours. Also you have to fill your cargohold with megacyte and rare modules first. Oh, and be AFK."
Veruna Caseti
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:53:00 -
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If the point of the 1 on 1 match is to determine the best PvP player in Eve, a match without ECM is a pointless in determining the best PvP player as it is an integral part of combat in Eve.
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Taggart wants YOU. Join TTi!
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EvilEric
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:54:00 -
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emm there is no point in using ecm> it is no test of skill. Especially if you have to declare the ship before you come. As then it is simple to mount a stupid amount of specific jammers.
There would be no need of scramblers on the setup as if you warp out you lose.
So really drop ecm for a skill bassed 1v1.
So... mounting all this ECM and the like would take up many slots? Why no counter with a raven and FoF missiles (cruise) and turn the shields and armor into a tank and ignore the other guy using his med/low slots for ECM?
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Werlii
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:56:00 -
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This fight should bee about who can deal and take the most damge,ecm are unbalanced so no point for it in a fight like this!
By the way who is the chicken here the one who want a clean fight or the one who want to hide behind ecm/dampers?
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vf142rex
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:00:00 -
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Tank CEO please point us to the "Rules of Challenges" you keep referring to where it says the person challenged gets to decide every detail of the fight.
Tankuk is looking for the fight, not CEO. CEO has every right to say yes or no, or anything in between. It makes perfect sense to me.
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EvilEric
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:03:00 -
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Yep... as much as I would love to see the griefer podded. He has every right to ask for what ever he wants (ECM/Damp etc.) without being called a coward. The ECM/Damp ships are SUPPORT ships not intended for damage dealing.
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Lliad
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: Lliad on 22/11/2003 23:04:46
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So... mounting all this ECM and the like would take up many slots? Why no counter with a raven and FoF missiles (cruise) and turn the shields and armor into a tank and ignore the other guy using his med/low slots for ECM?
And this is skill?
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: Veruna Caseti on 22/11/2003 23:06:13
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Tankuk is looking for the fight, not CEO. CEO has every right to say yes or no, or anything in between. It makes perfect sense to me.
That's not the point. He has the right to accept or refuse; but saying that it's the "Rules" that he gets to decide every detail of the fight because he's the one being challenged is total hogwash.
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And this is skill?
Just as much as "mount maximum damage and activate weapons" is.
Veruna Caseti
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Lliad
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:10:00 -
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And this is skill?
Just as much as "mount maximum damage and activate weapons" is.
Range, speed, cap, damage, defence ect
More skill than jam and kill or spam fof missels till you die or win
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:10:00 -
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It was a counter-offer. IF she does not agree to my guidelines, which are not that big of a difference and doesn't go towards any of the players, I don't see the problem. But if not, then I refuse the fight, plain n simple, I already said this.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:11:00 -
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I can guess why Tank CEO wants no ECM ... its quite simple actually.
Since he "Tank the Gank" almost certainly has more skill points than our Tankuk ... without the uncertainly of ecm interaction in the fight the result would almost certainly go to Tank CEO given 2 uber setup damage dealers.
For example, in a straight Raven tank vs raven tank gunnery duel an extra 5% here and there on missiles and trajectory analysis will add up, and provide the man with the greater skill points a decisive advantage.
With no limits ECM possible however, Tank CEO would have to cover his bases more fully and take a risk with his setup.
But of course as we all know,
TankCEO isn't a man for taking risks...
Ah well, the fact remains - a fair challenge has been made.
Whether it is accepted or not is up to Tank CEO.
PS
Did you say something relevent Viceroy?
Like I said before in Foresaken Channel, I am speaking to the organ-grinder not the monkey...
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gaya'aijia
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:16:00 -
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Did you say something relevent Viceroy?
Not that I noticed, doubt he will ever even
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:17:00 -
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It was a counter-offer. IF she does not agree to my guidelines, which are not that big of a difference and doesn't go towards any of the players, I don't see the problem.
"Not that big of a difference?"
Let me see, you want to decide when it happens so you can prepare, where it takes place which adds the obvious and not unlikely threat of you setting up an ambush before, during or after the event in classic Tank style, what types of modules are used which you obviously want to favor where you have invested the most skillpoints/training, and who gets to be there.
Wow, and what decisions are left to be worked out? Your counter-offer is a ******* joke, and so are you for coming up with such a lame-ass reason not to fight. Just say you don't want to accept the challenge and leave it at that.
Veruna Caseti
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Lliad
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:23:00 -
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Edited by: Lliad on 22/11/2003 23:24:01
yes coz skill points have nothing to do with skill. They must have just been named wrong.
Its a game, skill points are an indication of base skill.
So really Jade your saying you Tank is less skillfull that Tank ceo.?
So hes got to use ecm to win?
ahh i see now what you wont accept tanks new offer.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:31:00 -
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hmm if a Megathron can take my Gravemetric strength to -20, imagine what a Scorpion can do.
I listed my guidelines, you don't want a fair match.
These are the reasons why you want ECM.
1. To scare a person into thinking he might go ECM so that he will fit all his mid slots and low slots to counter the ECM
2. Since we have to give out what ships we will be flying, its alot easier to Jam then it is to counter jamming.
3. If some 1 doesnt fit jamming or does and 1 doesnt have a counter to that jamming, the one being jammed will just be all defensive. In my case, you wont be able to destroy me anywas so whats the point.
4. See, you want kickboxing, I just want boxing.
You wanna kickbox, I wanna box. Choose which one, aviously you chose Kickboxing, well guess what, I dont kickbox, I only box.
I have made my decision already in this topic, you aviously seem to not see it so Ill say it again.
No ECM/Damps.
Fine, you wanna choose the location, fine, but I want to know the location and then we will negotiate.
If you agree to my guidelines, you got yourself a fight. If not, then o well. No fight then.
You are challenging me, im not challenging you, the challenger doesnt make the rules. The one being challenged does. Ask anyone. Its the same with boxing, everything, Top 10, everything.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:37:00 -
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These are the reasons why you want ECM.
1. To scare a person into thinking he might go ECM so that he will fit all his mid slots and low slots to counter the ECM
2. Since we have to give out what ships we will be flying, its alot easier to Jam then it is to counter jamming.
3. If some 1 doesnt fit jamming or does and 1 doesnt have a counter to that jamming, the one being jammed will just be all defensive. In my case, you wont be able to destroy me anywas so whats the point.
4. See, you want kickboxing, I just want boxing.
I couldn't have put it better myself.
This is called strategy. Deciding what you think your opponent is going to do and trying to come up with countermeasures is part of the skill of being a successful pilot. You simply don't want to do it beacuse you're afraid you will guess wrong and lose the fight.
So instead of actually having to use your brain, you just want to play "most damage wins." Well, guess what, that's not how this game works. If you can't plan and deal with eventualities then the rumors of your skills have been vastly exaggerated.
Weak.
Veruna Caseti
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Afrowax
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:46:00 -
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Why dont you guys just take the 2 tanks, line up their skill points, and see who has more skills in the pvp areas.
Since there is no RL skill at all required in the combat system in this game, save the abilty to click your mouse buttons, the only thing that matters is who has the better skills trained.
So I would have to agree with Tank CEO in that you shouldn't use Electrronic warfare modules as then you would have to have many matches consisting of different set-ups of the ships to even everything out.
Not using Electronic Warfare would pretty much just limit it to who has more skill points, but then you could get into what weapons each are using and what weapon upgrades they have and you would just start a whole different argument.
So, like I said why dont you just line up their skills and see who has more pvp trained up.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:51:00 -
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Whatever you say, yes, im weak, funny how Medium slots do not affect your damage.
You want kick boxing while I only box, not going to happen.
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Miss Piggy
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:57:00 -
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Oi Fat Tank CEO
Fight like a man for a change and stop whining.
WAAA WAAA WAAAA WAAAA
FOOL
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Warp away
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:57:00 -
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err..who the hell is Tankuk?
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:59:00 -
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I will, with no ECM, ECM is like fighting like a woman, I just wanna be on the same page ya. Im done arguing, I gave you my guidelines, If you dont agree to no ECM then fine no fight, plain n simple, im done posting.
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:01:00 -
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Edited by: Amin on 23/11/2003 00:02:13
A suggestion:
To be a true warrior surly u must be able to fight in all types of ships. So how about a 3 round match:
1 with frigates,
1 with cruisers,
1 with battleships
ECM is allowed in one of these rounds, maybe in the cruiser round.
This way it will come down to using different tactics in each round.
Just a suggestion....
Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator
Caldari State Citizen
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:01:00 -
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OK, so you get to choose the system.
So you can camp the jump in point as per usual, like the sissy girl you are.
U suck tbh, cause youre an arse who rely's on lag.
Hope you get yer arse kicked by the other Tank.
Love and kisses
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Captain Lugnut
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:02:00 -
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Welp, since you aviously do not know the rules of challenges, therefore, I will not fight with the rules allowing ECM. I don't give a **** about the fight, you can go ahead and say Tank UK is better then me, I just don't care. I have nothing to prove here, I liad down the guidelines for me to fight in this match and you have refused to comply. I for one will not waste my time to goto a 1v1 fight just to be jammed and fired upon.
Like i said, I have nothing to prove, I dont care if you guys think i have skills or not.
I will fight by those rules I stated, plain n simple, its up to you. Done posting.
You look like a coward Tank.
Did your mommy make you leave your balls at home?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:02:00 -
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"Since there is no RL skill at all required in the combat system in this game, save the abilty to click your mouse buttons, the only thing that matters is who has the better skills trained."
... That's like saying there's no real skills needed for playing chess, because all you need is the ability to move the chess pieces around the board. :s
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:02:00 -
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Look, there are tooooo many ways you can jam a person. Its not strategy, its just the luck of a guess. With rules of no ECM and No damps, that elimates that and provides a fair, even fight.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:05:00 -
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Ok im sick of this, Im a coward, I suck, Tankuk is the best tank, he has all the skill, you guys are all better then me, i suck, i lose all my ships, i run away from all 1v1, a cruiser can beat me, a frigate can beat me, im a griefer, im a exploiter, im a cheater, im a *******, im a ****, im a *****, im a loser. There ya go. Cheers.
You wanna fight me, you fight my way, No ECM or damps, whats your decision, Peace the fu ck out.
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:06:00 -
[55]
Tank CEO,
Ur a fat fool
Fight properly for a change
do ur victims get to ask u how to tool up?
STFU and fight
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Trooble
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:13:00 -
[56]
Quote:
You wanna fight me, you fight my way
That sounds like someone who wants a fair fight..
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:15:00 -
[57]
He cant help it m8
He's a podkillin ****head that rely's on lag....end of story
*HELLO MUM*
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Afrowax
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:18:00 -
[58]
"... That's like saying there's no real skills needed for playing chess, because all you need is the ability to move the chess pieces around the board. :s"
You can't really compare this to chess because in chess bother players are started completely equal and it comes down to who has a better perception of the board and better systematic strategy. This combat system only rely's on pre-emptive strategy and what each person equips, But I do see your point.
Thats why I said we should just put them in starter ships and see who lives longer since any other way just depends on who comes with the more advantegous set-up and doesnt really reflect they're skill points. |
Stillborn
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:21:00 -
[59]
Errr....
Tell ya what then. We'll have no other ships apart from Ibis's
That will make a great game.
Pfft 
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StealthNet
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:35:00 -
[60]
Quote:
Look, there are tooooo many ways you can jam a person. Its not strategy, its just the luck of a guess. With rules of no ECM and No damps, that elimates that and provides a fair, even fight.
You are somewhat wrong. That will be a matter of who has the most skill points. In a message in this own thread, you posted that you don't care, that you don't have anything to prove.
Well, this is not the behaviour you recently demonstrated in the forums posting your skill points and even a screenshot.
If you are flying around in the eve universe, your opponent WILL have the ability to fit whatever he wants. I agree to some extent that luck plays a major role, but using your brain to figure out what your opponent will do IS PART of the challenge.
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:39:00 -
[61]
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I will fight by those rules I stated, plain n simple, its up to you. Done posting.
Done Posting???
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:53:00 -
[62]
ECM requires all the skill that Microsoft has granted users of the Windows Operating System since MS Windows 3.0: the ability to use a calculator.
Turrets, and even missiles, are affected by how good both pilots are at manuevering their vessels. The ability to take advantage of your opponent's tracking and optimal range, the ability to maneuver to keep your target in your sweet spot while denying them theirs. Hell, even staying behind your target to affect the usage of their missile launchers.
If you want to prove who is the better tactical fighter, no ECM. If you want to prove who is the better strategic fighter, ECM stays. Guess it's time to declare what kind of glove you're slapping Tank CEO across the face with:
Strategic or Tactical.
Oh and btw, by traditional dueling rules Tank CEO is correct.
Challenged has the right to choose weapons and grounds.
Challenger chooses his distance and the seconds fix the time and terms of firing.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:54:00 -
[63]
"Thats why I said we should just put them in starter ships and see who lives longer since any other way just depends on who comes with the more advantegous set-up and doesnt really reflect they're skill points."
... But doesn't coming up with the 'more adventegous setup' and using it (and available ship resources) most effectively in battle... require actual RL skills... which is exactly opposite to what you originally said? ^^
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1of1
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Posted - 2003.11.23 01:01:00 -
[64]
Sod it, let them slug it out in pods.
They can bash against each other and the first one to ***** loses
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2003.11.23 01:01:00 -
[65]
I support TankCEO on the matter
Allowing ECM/Dampners is silly in a 1on1
A one on one is a fight between guns/piloting skills. Not to see who jams the other the fastest.
I think you are pretty pesky that you bother TankCEO with such silly accusations. Knowing that most of you are both inferior to the combatants makes it only worse
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-"You know, we play the "good guys" right? We kill pirates, griefers, retards and general subversive elements in the EVE-Community. To the rest, we are friendly and always prepared to help out. Peo |
Znaei
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Posted - 2003.11.23 01:13:00 -
[66]
Well I must agree with Tank on this one  It will be much more fun fighting without ecm. The one who gets a target lock first wins, only showing that he has trained Electronic warfare, signature analasys and has a good sensor booster, nothing else!! Doesnt proof who is the better PvP'er.
With no ecm they but on alot more variety of skills to test.
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |
Afrowax
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Posted - 2003.11.23 01:47:00 -
[67]
"... But doesn't coming up with the 'more adventegous setup' and using it (and available ship resources) most effectively in battle... require actual RL skills... which is exactly opposite to what you originally said?"
Hahaha, ya it is the opposite of what I said. Crap.
I suck.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.11.23 02:57:00 -
[68]
Edited by: drunkenmaster on 23/11/2003 02:59:09
the amarr champs organisers banned ECM/damps under the ruling that it was a 'fighters' championship, not a 'cowards' one. (or words to that effect)
And the amarr champs were cool.
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Kiana'tre
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Posted - 2003.11.23 02:58:00 -
[69]
This is a hope for something good to happen.............. THE NVA needs hope its needs somethign to go its way...... LOL
LOL ECM fights are horriblely boring........ If any of you got on Chaos Duels are never done with ECM tracking disruptors or dampeners.....cause its not much of a duel........... LOL TARDS
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.11.23 03:29:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Drethen Nerevitas on 23/11/2003 03:29:14
1 Tank is challenged. Move to 2 or 3.
2 Tank agrees to the rules. End discussion.
3 Tank does not agree to the rules and sets forward an alternate set of rules. Move to 4, 5 or 6.
4 NVA accepts Tanks' rules.
5 NVA proposes another set of rules. Move to 1.
6 NVA ***** about Tank not running in front of a cannon and sitting there while someone lights the fuse.
As for the chess comment...do you play the game?
Jash, the only strategic part of ECM that I can think of is luck. And I don't think anyone can prove luck to be an affectable strategical element. Am I missing something?
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Captain Massacre
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Posted - 2003.11.23 04:04:00 -
[71]
It looks like Tankupchuck is afraid of Tank CEO. He'd agree to a fair fight with no ECM witchcraft if he was a real man. Instead he's hiding behind some ECM skirt, probably Jades, and refusing to come out and box the real Tank.
Tankupchuck will you fight like a man without gimmicks and trickery? Will you fight without ECM garbage and face Tank CEO with real live weapons?
Whos afraid of who here? It sure isn't Tank CEO.
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Captain Massacre
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Posted - 2003.11.23 04:08:00 -
[72]
You want a real fight? How about matching ships? A few years back I was in the US and saw an IROC race on the tele. That race had all the race drivers in identically prepared cars.
Put Tank CEO and Tankupchuck in matching cruisers with identical modules and weapons loadouts. Let the real combat tank win with strategy and savy not trickery and sneaky ECM modules.
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Stue
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Posted - 2003.11.23 04:20:00 -
[73]
Imagine how boring the video will be with ECM.
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.11.23 04:22:00 -
[74]
I can see it now...
A mad scramble as the mouse flies across the screen for the first five seconds, and then the rest of the video is someone dragging ammo to his weapons for the rest of the combat  .
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.23 04:25:00 -
[75]
Its mostly Jade that is persisting with all modules permitted, I talked to TankUK and he didn't care when I said no ECM, i beleive he agreed with it.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.11.23 05:22:00 -
[76]
This is a stupidly desperate attempt by the NVA to restore their lost dignity by a pathetic PR "challenge".
Tank doesnt have to fight this just because the NVA "challenged" him. The NVA is known for BACKSTABBING people that they invite to 1v1. Jade has stated that this is acceptable.
Hypocrisy.
So all in all, this is a another spin effot by our friendly local spinster. And ofcourse, like any thread that contains the name "Tank CEO", it has attracted an immense amount of lamers, n00bs and alts who only want to flame and be *****s.
GG NVA, we're still pounding your capital systems btw. If you actually have any balls you'll come fight us with you 3x numbers instead of continuing the forum war that you're so good at.
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Falzone
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Posted - 2003.11.23 05:41:00 -
[77]
Jade is a wh*re the rumors are true.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.23 05:58:00 -
[78]
Damn viceroy, your first post was irrelevent but your second just kinda finesses waste of space with snazzy street pazzazz ;)
End of the day chaps this was a challenge to a straight fight 1v1 legal setups only.
It was a fair challenge.
Only a total muppet could deny that.
And all else is crazy desperate reaching.
If TankCEO doesn't want to fight with ecm allowed then he is completely within his rights to decline the challenge.
And that appears to be what he has done.
And jash please, don't give me a load of old hooey about duelling rules.
This is more akin to a professional boxing match.
You don't say "oh yeah, because I was challenged I insist no uppercuts allowed"
seriously.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.23 06:07:00 -
[79]
Guess im a muppet then.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.23 06:08:00 -
[80]
Quote:
If you want to prove who is the better tactical fighter, no ECM. If you want to prove who is the better strategic fighter, ECM stays. Guess it's time to declare what kind of glove you're slapping Tank CEO across the face with:
Strategic or Tactical.
Hogwash. Both are legitimate parts of combat. If you can't deal with the loadout your opponent chooses, you lose the fight. That's how combat works.
Quote:
Oh and btw, by traditional dueling rules Tank CEO is correct.
Challenged has the right to choose weapons and grounds.
Challenger chooses his distance and the seconds fix the time and terms of firing.
By traditional rules of dueling there also has to be a physician present. Good thing we're not talking about the 1800s and two fat guys on a hill outside Boston packing gunpowder into their pistols.
Veruna Caseti
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Znaei
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Posted - 2003.11.23 06:16:00 -
[81]
This thread has erupted in flame and trolling feast!! If I were you, Tank CEO, Tankuk and Jade, I would stop discussing this on the forum and discuss it in-game.
Quote:
Jade is a wh*re the rumors are true.
Whats up with that? I see no point in calling ppl that
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |
ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2003.11.23 06:17:00 -
[82]
This entire thread is ghey.
TankUK if u want to challenge someone do it ingame, yourself.
Lamers on the flame tank ceo bandwagon. You're lame. I don't like tank in game either, but he was within his rights to ask for no ecm/damps. No skill is involved in their use. Any n00b with 100k skillpts can lock down a bship.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.23 06:28:00 -
[83]
Quote:
Guess im a muppet then.
TankCEO honestly, I'm not going to insult you very much for walking away from this. I know that your Biomass chaps are very scared of Tankuk ... and its unfair of me to press the issue.
But please.
Say you don't want to fight ... fine.
But don't tell me straight 1v1 no module limitations in a neutral system starting at 100km with seconds to adjudicate is ...
"unfair".
Its painfully "fair".
If you don't like the terms don't accept.
But don't try bending the truth like some amateur viceroy dancing for comedic effect.
Its "fair".
face the facts m'dear.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.23 07:00:00 -
[84]
Personally im not scared of anyone. Speaking of scared, why cant you fight along the lines of no ECM/Damps. Why do you have to hide behind ECM eh, a Frigate can jam a bs. But a frigate cant take it pvp side. Looks like some 1 is hiding. You know what, im sick of Jade speaking for TankUK, TankUK needs to respond and I wanna know hiw thoughts.
Jade, you know jack **** about pvp, you shouldnt even be talking.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.23 07:02:00 -
[85]
Also Jade, you still fail to relize something, this is a 1v1 challenge, not a ordinary unknowning fight that happens alot every day. Funny how all I ask is for ECM and you guys wont fight. Why do you get to make all the rules since your challenging me..
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.23 07:07:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Tank CEO on 23/11/2003 07:11:07
There are 9+ different ways to jam a person.
I can name alot.
- 4 Damps/4 Multispec
- 4 Damps/4 Gravemetric Jammer
- 5 Damps/3 Gravemtric Jammer
- 8 Gravemetric Jammers
- 8 Dampners
- 2 Of Each Jammers
- 3 Damps/5 Multispec
- 3 Damps/5 Gravemetric Jammers
- 3 Damps/3 Gravemetric Jammers/2 Select Other Jammers
I can just go on and on. Now you tell me, is that strategic? It would be a AWESOME guess if the fight was to go on and someone countered the jam.
Be real, be fun, no ECM, show your pvp skills. Theres no skill in ECM. Why do you think CCP didnt allow ECM in the matches, because as they stated its cowardly.
My Decision remains, NO ECM/DAMPS and you got yourself a fight.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.23 07:13:00 -
[87]
Calm down tank CEO ...
Nobody is insulting your manhood ... much.
I'm not claiming to know anything about PvP ...
But I do know about fair terms.
And you have been offered fair terms.
If you don't want to accept, fair enough, the challenge was made.
All I want you to admit here and now.
Was that the challenge was fair and balanced and entirely unbiased.
Can you admit that to me?
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.23 07:19:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Tank CEO on 23/11/2003 07:20:56
In my opinion ECM is of coarse not fair and boring. Its just like tieing some one hands behind their back and fighting. But ECM is in the game. You offered me a challenge which allows ECM, so I counter offered and asked no ECM which is a fair 1v1 fight to the end which you rejected.
Simple. Lets end this. You aviously don't know what PVP is all about. Why do you think hardly anyone uses ECM on chaos, cause its lame. This is a 1v1, Its nearly impossible to counter a Jam. So no, its not fair, it was not a fair challenge. Im offering you a 'FAIR' counter offer but you reject because you want to have a unfair match. Thats all ECM is is confusion and the luck of the guess in a 1v1 like this. So im removing this guess with my counter offer. Im offering a fair, non-coward, 1v1 fight with rules of no ECM/DAMPS and you still refuse, lol its pretty funny.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.23 07:27:00 -
[89]
Did you not understand the question ?
Or does the word "fair" not mean "equal and balanced" in the dictionary of TankCEO
I don't (to be frank) give a rats ass about your preferences re ECM ...
I do want you to admit that you received a "fair" challenge.
That only way you can deny this, is to tell me here and now why the challenge as stated, was "unfair" to one of the participants.
Can you do that?
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.11.23 07:38:00 -
[90]
Nope, not fair, countering a jam is nearly impossible.
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Stue
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Posted - 2003.11.23 07:47:00 -
[91]
Will this ever stop?
Hmm, lets just say that ECM is indeed fair if both are allowed to use it. But lets also admit that ECM is indeed lame as well.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.11.23 11:12:00 -
[92]
Quote:
But don't try bending the truth like some amateur viceroy dancing for comedic effect.
Err what do you expect me to do? Take you seriously? All you do is spin crap on the forums, you talk and talk, but you dont really do anything. Homo Erectus for example, has the balls to back up his talk ingame, but you and your sorry alliance are just TALK. Sorry but i prefer to dance for comedic effect
Bending the truth?
Here's the truth:
3 small corps, consisting of 10-15 people at one time, have invaded your alliance territory, destroyed huge amounts of battleships, cruisers and corporation assets and laid siege to your "alliance" of 20 corps, many who have 50+ members, some even 100-200.
You have no pvp experience, you have no skill, you are running very thin on assets, you have no coordination and do not want to risk anything in war.
You have issued an order for everyone in the alliance (named the new VENAL alliance) to run for the mountains on your own turf.
Ok this is understandable. Many of the Venal corps have good pilots, who have fought with us bravely, even if it meant loosing their ships. They deserve respect, and they have it from SPVD.
But you on the other hand, do not deserve any respect, because all you do is talk crap on the forums, say lots of stuff that you cannot back up, issue stupid challenges in order to regain your PR dignity, which you lost after it turned out the "Space Cadets" were not really cadets (note the careful spin from Cadets to Invaders in the your last few posts. A sudden respect for SPVD? or a desperate attempt to make it look like you never underestimated us?).
You alone (and a few of your "cadets" ;)) have made the NVA look like a bunch of smack talking, exaggerating n00bs who only have the power of fighting on the forums. Yes you use a dictionary, yes you use a spelling checker. That doesnt make your crap "right". it makes it funny when it turns out to be wrong.
I believe the NVA would have more respect if they stopped this stupid PR Crusade, that has turned out to be a hollow club that Jade has been swinging around to make the alliance look good.
So let me dance to comedic effect again.
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Avon
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Posted - 2003.11.23 11:16:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Avon on 23/11/2003 11:19:49
Now, let me just see if I have got this straight.
If the two Tanks fight on Jades terms it is fair.
If the two Tanks fight on TankCEO's terms it is unfair?
Er...
I'm struggling here..
The fight has to be on Jades terms in order to be fair because she says so?
Um...
But she isn't the one fighting?
Hell, I give up, but I will add that if someone said to me 'I want to fight you 1on1 in a system of my choice and according to my own rules, and if you don't agree you are a coward', I'd just shrug, give them a cookie and walk off.
Jade, if you really wanted the fight you would negotiate the rules, especially if both the Tanks are agreeable, as it is now this just looks like a cheap publicity stunt.
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Posted - 2003.11.23 11:20:00 -
[94]
It won't be much of a fight if ECM is allowed.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Lu'cesha
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Posted - 2003.11.23 11:30:00 -
[95]
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=44442
Jade Constantine must click the url above ASAP and answer.
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Lord ofRedemption
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Posted - 2003.11.23 11:40:00 -
[96]
*Wakes up after a long night*
God whats going on..
Ok this was not ment for a flame fest.
I dont care about ECM/Damps..
Ive spoken to him and agreed 50k starting whould be better,No ecm/damps..
Please try to keep this post without trolling.
Sorry for the late reply ive been asleep(uk time zone)
New Venal Alliance Member
Cyberdine Industries(CDI)
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McWatt
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Posted - 2003.11.23 11:53:00 -
[97]
wow. good decision tank uk, well done.
i m looking forward to the fight!
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Lu'cesha
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Posted - 2003.11.23 11:59:00 -
[98]
Cool.
Now you just have to convince Jade to fight me
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Shad
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Posted - 2003.11.23 11:59:00 -
[99]
Respect to both Tanks..
Perhaps now that both who will actually be FIGHTING have agreed the terms of the fight Jade might even stop bleating on about her definitions of fair
Will be good to see which of you two comes out on top.
At least you have the balls to fight!
Good luck to both :)
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2003.11.23 12:10:00 -
[100]
Great!
You go TanKUK :)
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RAIDAKAOZ
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Posted - 2003.11.23 12:25:00 -
[101]
Thanks TankUk, good to see some people have some honor around here...
and Jade, why is it you were deciding the rules of the match, when YOU ARENT GOING TO BE IN IT... let the 2 tanks talk it out, and you sit up there in your station wondering who you can scam next
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Posted - 2003.11.23 12:31:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Slinky Redfoot on 23/11/2003 12:31:35
Quote:
I can guess why Tank CEO wants no ECM ... its quite simple actually.
Since he "Tank the Gank" almost certainly has more skill points than our Tankuk ... without the uncertainly of ecm interaction in the fight the result would almost certainly go to Tank CEO given 2 uber setup damage dealers.
Why must Miss Constantine get involved in this?I'm not making a personal attack against Jade here-it simply doesn't make sense.
The fact that Tank CEO has more skill points or not, isn't his problem.if this was about skill points from the beginning, TankUK shouldn't have challenged anyone.We've seen these '1on1' style duels from the NVA before.. multiple people have agreed to duels with you lot, only to be warp jammed and faced with a 1v111 fight.
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2003.11.23 12:34:00 -
[103]
If this is a trickery by NVA. They will be the laughingstock of the whole EVE-Universe..
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Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2003.11.23 12:41:00 -
[104]
Quote:
Nobody is insulting your manhood ... much.
Nor are we insulting yours... much.
Hopefully the NVA Tank will see the light, and put his parrot back in its cage.
Got Banana? |
PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.11.23 12:46:00 -
[105]
Edited by: PropanElgen on 23/11/2003 13:03:27
Hey Tank CEO, why don't you challenge JADE to a 1vs1, so she can do something else than fight on the forums?
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Lord ofRedemption
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Posted - 2003.11.23 13:02:00 -
[106]
Thank you all for replys
Please understand it will only be me vs TankCeo
No one else in system Apart from 1 frig on each side to wacth the macth and that SI player whom i forgot his name(sorry) will record the macth for you all to see.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2003.11.23 13:10:00 -
[107]
I will pay you and Tank CEO 10 million if I can send in an alt to watch the fight.
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2003.11.23 13:33:00 -
[108]
Quote:
If this is a trickery by NVA. They will be the laughingstock of the whole EVE-Universe..
Amusing that this comes from someone who "stopped reading and writing on the forums".
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.23 14:17:00 -
[109]
"Thank you all for replys
Please understand it will only be me vs TankCeo
No one else in system Apart from 1 frig on each side to wacth the macth and that SI player whom i forgot his name(sorry) will record the macth for you all to see."
Mr.Archain, i believe. ^^
... Maybe you guys should try to get in touch with the owner of "Tank" nick in game, and negotiate with him so the winner of this match can have their name changed to it. (methinks Tank CEO would like the prospect of such prize a lot ;)
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Graffix
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Posted - 2003.11.23 14:32:00 -
[110]
Ob-vi-ous; Ob'vi-ous-ly
1-Easily perceived or understood.
2-Easily seen through because of a lack of subtlety.
Will he retain this new found knowledge, or will he still be misunderstood? Time will only tell.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.11.23 14:45:00 -
[111]
Yeah... step up to people, challenge them, then b*** about how they must fight by your rules.
Such things only happen in EvE
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.23 15:06:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/11/2003 15:10:49
to the general wave of muppet bandwagon jumpers in the audience.
1.Tankuk asked me to write the challenge for him.
2. He asked me to specify those terms publicly.
3. The terms offered were "fair"
4. Nobody here has contradicted point 3 in a meaningful way.
5. Viceroy is a posting meaningless nonsense.
6. Tankuk simply wanted a fight.
7. Since Tankuk has now agreed with Tank CEO's revisions their is no disagreement.
Everyone leaping on the bandwagon to take a swipe at me, at the NVA, or at whatever should take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror.
Your nonsense hate and pitiful ego-crises are making you post rubbish.
Honestly, If I can't post a public challenge at the request of a friend in-game and then support the contention that the challenge was "fair" (which it undoubtedly was) against the contention that it was not (which is nonsense)
Without being multiply-flamed by space invaders, biomass, and assorted alts ... then this is a sad state of play.
Grow up you morons!
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.23 15:09:00 -
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And Raidakoz, since I expected better from Everlasting Vendetta.
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and Jade, why is it you were deciding the rules of the match, when YOU ARENT GOING TO BE IN IT...
Read the post above this.
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let the 2 tanks talk it out, and you sit up there in your station wondering who you can scam next
What does that mean? If its some kind of slur to say that I have behaved dishonesty in game and ripped people off then you can **** yourself frankly.
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RAIDAKAOZ
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Posted - 2003.11.23 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: RAIDAKAOZ on 23/11/2003 16:04:26
Sorry if I made you feel bad jade, but honestly, it looked really bad when you spent 4 pages arguing with CEO about having to have ECm on behalf of Tankul and then he logs in and says he never cared... sounds to me like this wasnt entirely on his behalf :(
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.23 16:54:00 -
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Tankuk agreed with the challenge doc. He was of course entirely within his rights to accept the counter proposal.
The reason I argued with TankCEO for 4 pages was because of his crazy assertion that the challenge as set wasn't "fair".
That was the point I was nailing him on.
And then you made a common about me scamming ... and I still want to know what that was supposed to mean?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.23 16:59:00 -
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I believe he meant the way you are adept with PR, Jade.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Renox
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Posted - 2003.11.23 20:28:00 -
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Nice to see they agreed on a way of fighting. A good one even as ECM would screw up any good match if wanting it to be a test of skill.
And as far as setting the rules, I do believe it is customary for the challenged to chose the rules and weapons?
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While Celestial Apoc is filled with smack talking, safespot hugging, gate cudling, empire war exploiting |
Rulonna Mintaka
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Posted - 2003.11.24 00:40:00 -
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Im curious about the so-called backstabbing by NVA in 1on1 fights. Have they jumped people before during duels? If so maybe a security deposit of say $50million isk should be placed with someone reputable by both sides. It would be held until the fight is over to ensure no outside interference. Pick someone reputable like Hardin or Morkt or even a Polaris or GM? Someone who would return the money after the fight and hold it to ensure a fair fight.
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Captain Massacre
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Posted - 2003.11.24 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Massacre on 24/11/2003 00:52:23
Im glad Tankupchuck agreed to duel Tank CEO. Now the real Tank will rule the day. As for Jade hello m'dear good to see you again. I podded a couple indys in EWOK this weekend just for you m'dear. Jade your performance here acting as Tankupchucks pimp, errr, I mean agent, remind me of someone else. I see you learned from the best.
Good day m'dear.
Click here to see Jade and Don King together discussing the big Tank vs. Tank battle. http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/thalia.jpg
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.24 01:02:00 -
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Get lost you pointless w-anker alt numpty.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.24 03:03:00 -
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A compromise:
No rules in regard to ECM/dampeners but if Tank CEO wins, Jade Constantine must stop posting in the forums.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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SithEwok
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Posted - 2003.11.25 14:52:00 -
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Ok, 2cents from me:
I think that its cool that tankuk wants to 1v1 tankceo. Insurance would cover the ship nicely.
In reading these posts I have came up with a rather funny conclusion. Tankceo is under 15 years old. On the playground is where I used to hear you play it my way or nothing.. 1st through 5th grade.
Big boys just battle it out. Ever watch a fight called UFC? That is where the best of the best went into battle not knowing what the other guy would have. Anything goes is the way it should be done. If you lose a ship you wont care, its the thought of losing that scares you most and you wont do it. You dont want to lose all that goes with the name "tankceo". Which to n00bs is like a shark. To me, no worries.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.25 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Maud Dib on 25/11/2003 15:54:28
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Edited by: Slinky Redfoot on 23/11/2003 12:31:35
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I can guess why Tank CEO wants no ECM ... its quite simple actually.
Since he "Tank the Gank" almost certainly has more skill points than our Tankuk ... without the uncertainly of ecm interaction in the fight the result would almost certainly go to Tank CEO given 2 uber setup damage dealers.
Why must Miss Constantine get involved in this?I'm not making a personal attack against Jade here-it simply doesn't make sense.
The fact that Tank CEO has more skill points or not, isn't his problem.if this was about skill points from the beginning, TankUK shouldn't have challenged anyone.We've seen these '1on1' style duels from the NVA before.. multiple people have agreed to duels with you lot, only to be warp jammed and faced with a 1v111 fight.
Care to name those people who agreed to duels and then ambushed their foe?
A statement without facts is worthless rumour.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.25 16:16:00 -
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I agree entirely with the poster above.
Tankuk has crazy courage. He just wants to fight and have fun. He is a decent guy, straight-up and dignified.
I personally think he's insane also to agree the no-ecm rules that TankCEO dictated, because I literally can't see how he can win with CEO's extra 2m skill points in a straight damage fest.
But you know what,
Tankuk just doesn't care. He wants to fight anyway.
And that takes a lot of guts.
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2003.11.25 16:47:00 -
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You are running very thin on assets
im sorry but this made me laugh out loud.
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vyperpit
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Posted - 2003.11.25 16:54:00 -
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I literally can't see how he can win with CEO's extra 2m skill points in a straight damage fest.
But you know what,
Tankuk just doesn't care. He wants to fight anyway.
And that takes a lot of guts.
2 mill skill points is not alot and if they are not in the rihts skills it won't make a difrence either way it will be a cool fight. so when is the bug day and has any one started running a betting shop on this yet???
common jade start getting the bets in my dear can't not try and make a profit from somthing like this.
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2003.11.25 17:59:00 -
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Hey,
I could be wrong here since I'm not in a BS yet...
But if you take ECM out of it, wouldn't that make it more fair, especially lag-wise.
If one party is delayed from targeting the other due to lag, then the non-delayed person could deploy their ECMs sooner, and thus shut the other down... completely negating skills.
If you leave ECM in, it could just be a test of a persons connection, not PvP skils.
Just a thought...
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