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Ospie
Ransom and Kill Core.Impulse
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:19:00 -
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Really, is it just me or are the drops from this last event completely over the top?
First off: Most none 0.0 entities can't put together a fleet to engage the CCP fleet before PL or the like drop in.
Secondly: The loot inside these CCP ships is completely over the top, I'm all for free stuff, but a potential 7b in loot? Really?
Suggestions: 1) Maybe for your future CCP events if you're doing a huge fleet just 1 plex in each or something, at the moment with that amount of potential loot the likes of PL/NC. will make an effort to get to these events just for the isk (Looks more than a super carriers worth was dropped there, or enough isk to field a fleet of tengus or w/e).
2) If you want to stick with the huge loot theme, then for the love of everyone who is not in a huge 0.0 alliance, just make several smaller groups go to different destinations, at least that way they would be more easily engage-able by the average high-sec/low-sec entity.
Just putting this in before you do this yet again with an over the top fleet with over the top loot. At which stage you'll start getting a lot of resentment from everyone who isn't PL. Maybe next time I'll go along in an arty bs just to snipe the wrecks before rich 0.0 can get richer yo.
A quick edit: I'm all for CCP doing these events, I fully encourage them to continue. Just stop with the insane loot drops. |

Lord Ryan
True Xero
133
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:22:00 -
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Yeah I was jealous too. And it sems these things only happen when I'm at work. -á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it". I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
433
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:23:00 -
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Ospie wrote:Really, is it just me or are the drops from this last event completely over the top?
First off: Most none 0.0 entities can't put together a fleet to engage the CCP fleet before PL or the like drop in.
Secondly: The loot inside these CCP ships is completely over the top, I'm all for free stuff, but a potential 7b in loot? Really?
Suggestions: 1) Maybe for your future CCP events if you're doing a huge fleet just 1 plex in each or something, at the moment with that amount of potential loot the likes of PL/NC. will make an effort to get to these events just for the isk (Looks more than a super carriers worth was dropped there, or enough isk to field a fleet of tengus or w/e).
2) If you want to stick with the huge loot theme, then for the love of everyone who is not in a huge 0.0 alliance, just make several smaller groups go to different destinations, at least that way they would be more easily engage-able by the average high-sec/low-sec entity.
Just putting this in before you do this yet again with an over the top fleet with over the top loot. At which stage you'll start getting a lot of resentment from everyone who isn't PL. Maybe next time I'll go along in an arty bs just to snipe the wrecks before rich 0.0 can get richer yo.
Whens the last time someone complained that characters in the starting zones for a traditional MMO couldn't raid or take part in high-level events? Because that is exactly what you're doing. |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
276
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:25:00 -
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Yeah good idea they should spawn in highsec so that if you shoot them you get instantly concorded Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks. |

T' Elk
SniggWaffe
192
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:25:00 -
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This post. It amuses me. God wears-áRay Ban Aviators. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1266
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:28:00 -
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the tinfoil in the events channel was hilarious
"CCP should just give the loot to PL instead of wasting our time (((" "THE EVENT WAS RIGGED" |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
141
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:30:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Yeah good idea they should spawn in highsec so that if you shoot them you get instantly concorded lollll |

Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
273
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:31:00 -
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It's over already ? Wow, i've missed it.
OH MY OH MY WHY DIDN'T I KNOW OF IT ??? WHY DIDN'T ANYBODY TELL ME ?? I DIDN'T GET MY SHARE !!!!111111
THAT'S SO UNFAIR !!!!
Somebody gank that stupid excuse of an OP. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Ospie
Ransom and Kill Core.Impulse
3
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:31:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Ospie wrote:Really, is it just me or are the drops from this last event completely over the top?
First off: Most none 0.0 entities can't put together a fleet to engage the CCP fleet before PL or the like drop in.
Secondly: The loot inside these CCP ships is completely over the top, I'm all for free stuff, but a potential 7b in loot? Really?
Suggestions: 1) Maybe for your future CCP events if you're doing a huge fleet just 1 plex in each or something, at the moment with that amount of potential loot the likes of PL/NC. will make an effort to get to these events just for the isk (Looks more than a super carriers worth was dropped there, or enough isk to field a fleet of tengus or w/e).
2) If you want to stick with the huge loot theme, then for the love of everyone who is not in a huge 0.0 alliance, just make several smaller groups go to different destinations, at least that way they would be more easily engage-able by the average high-sec/low-sec entity.
Just putting this in before you do this yet again with an over the top fleet with over the top loot. At which stage you'll start getting a lot of resentment from everyone who isn't PL. Maybe next time I'll go along in an arty bs just to snipe the wrecks before rich 0.0 can get richer yo. Whens the last time someone complained that characters in the starting zones for a traditional MMO couldn't raid or take part in high-level events? Because that is exactly what you're doing.
You're calling all of highsec and lowsec a starting zone? You're calling well over half the player base the starting zone?
CCP takes pride in the fact that there is no single "end game" in Eve. To try and say otherwise (i.e. that 0.0 is the only end game) is completely missing the point of this game.
To exclude every single "end game" but 0.0 doesn't seem like a particularly viable strategy to me. Especially when that single "end game" is the most spoilt.
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
433
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:34:00 -
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Ospie wrote:
You're calling all of highsec and lowsec a starting zone? You're calling well over half the player base the starting zone?
CCP takes pride in the fact that there is no single "end game" in Eve. To try and say otherwise (i.e. that 0.0 is the only end game) is completely missing the point of this game.
To exclude every single "end game" but 0.0 doesn't seem like a particularly viable strategy to me. Especially when that single "end game" is the most spoilt.
Absolutely.
Let me put it this way.
In nullsec, you do whatever the F you want. Absolute freedom. Lowsec, you have freedom with consequences and limits. Highsec is so watered down that its missing half of what makes EVE the game it is.
Try actually exploring the galaxy, getting out of your comfort zone, and you will very rapidly begin to realize that highsec is a starting zone packed to the brim with new players and manbabies. |

Crexa
Star Mandate Property Management Solutions
9
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:34:00 -
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Were the T2 gang link drops BPOs? It shows on the kill board as such. "...its breakfast time and i am very hungry. may i have some of your paint chips?" |

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
18
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:35:00 -
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CCP can't do an event where you shoot them in highsec for that requires for the to exist outside the normal game mechanics to avoid concord which they won't do. They can do lowsec...which they did..... |

Ospie
Ransom and Kill Core.Impulse
3
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:38:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Ospie wrote:
You're calling all of highsec and lowsec a starting zone? You're calling well over half the player base the starting zone?
CCP takes pride in the fact that there is no single "end game" in Eve. To try and say otherwise (i.e. that 0.0 is the only end game) is completely missing the point of this game.
To exclude every single "end game" but 0.0 doesn't seem like a particularly viable strategy to me. Especially when that single "end game" is the most spoilt.
Absolutely. Let me put it this way. In nullsec, you do whatever the F you want. Absolute freedom. Lowsec, you have freedom with consequences and limits. Highsec is so watered down that its missing half of what makes EVE the game it is. Try actually exploring the galaxy, getting out of your comfort zone, and you will very rapidly begin to realize that highsec is a starting zone packed to the brim with new players and manbabies.
I've been outlaw for longer than your character's even existed. I've fought in 0.0 under a couple of different entities.
I can honestly say I've explored the galaxy and moved out of my comfort zone in eve several times. |

Zirse
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
182
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:39:00 -
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Ospie wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Ospie wrote:Really, is it just me or are the drops from this last event completely over the top?
First off: Most none 0.0 entities can't put together a fleet to engage the CCP fleet before PL or the like drop in.
Secondly: The loot inside these CCP ships is completely over the top, I'm all for free stuff, but a potential 7b in loot? Really?
Suggestions: 1) Maybe for your future CCP events if you're doing a huge fleet just 1 plex in each or something, at the moment with that amount of potential loot the likes of PL/NC. will make an effort to get to these events just for the isk (Looks more than a super carriers worth was dropped there, or enough isk to field a fleet of tengus or w/e).
2) If you want to stick with the huge loot theme, then for the love of everyone who is not in a huge 0.0 alliance, just make several smaller groups go to different destinations, at least that way they would be more easily engage-able by the average high-sec/low-sec entity.
Just putting this in before you do this yet again with an over the top fleet with over the top loot. At which stage you'll start getting a lot of resentment from everyone who isn't PL. Maybe next time I'll go along in an arty bs just to snipe the wrecks before rich 0.0 can get richer yo. Whens the last time someone complained that characters in the starting zones for a traditional MMO couldn't raid or take part in high-level events? Because that is exactly what you're doing. You're calling all of highsec and lowsec a starting zone? You're calling well over half the player base the starting zone? CCP takes pride in the fact that there is no single "end game" in Eve. To try and say otherwise (i.e. that 0.0 is the only end game) is completely missing the point of this game. To exclude every single "end game" but 0.0 doesn't seem like a particularly viable strategy to me. Especially when that single "end game" is the most spoilt.
The majority of the characters are in highsec, not necessarily the majority of the players.
Sure, EVE is multilateral game; but it's chiefly a game of player conflict. This player conflict plays out in a multitude of theatres, but the principle one that brings in the intrigue that makes EVE so unique is in fact nullsec.
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Ospie
Ransom and Kill Core.Impulse
3
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:40:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Ospie wrote:
You're calling all of highsec and lowsec a starting zone? You're calling well over half the player base the starting zone?
CCP takes pride in the fact that there is no single "end game" in Eve. To try and say otherwise (i.e. that 0.0 is the only end game) is completely missing the point of this game.
To exclude every single "end game" but 0.0 doesn't seem like a particularly viable strategy to me. Especially when that single "end game" is the most spoilt.
Absolutely. Let me put it this way. In nullsec, you do whatever the F you want. Absolute freedom. Lowsec, you have freedom with consequences and limits. Highsec is so watered down that its missing half of what makes EVE the game it is. Try actually exploring the galaxy, getting out of your comfort zone, and you will very rapidly begin to realize that highsec is a starting zone packed to the brim with new players and manbabies.
I've been outlaw for longer than that character of yours has even existed. I've fought in 0.0 under a couple of different entities.
I can honestly say I've explored the galaxy and moved out of my comfort zone in eve several times. |

Hanoch Wheel
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:43:00 -
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Andski wrote:the tinfoil in the events channel was hilarious
"CCP should just give the loot to PL instead of wasting our time (((" "THE EVENT WAS RIGGED"
It was rigged, in the sense that CCP threw the fight. They shot up the nascent defense fleet and asked them to stand off, then shot at each other near the end, just before the final engagement.
I think the defense fleet idea needs some more thought. Perhaps an escort fleet that counters attackers from afar rather than trying to get close to CCP and defending them.
I do understand CCP is probably going to run a different sort of event later on today. Hopefully in a different location. I think they did a good job with this event. If they keep switching it up that should go a long way towards evening things out. The idea of separate smaller fleets simultaneously is an interesting one. |

Ospie
Ransom and Kill Core.Impulse
5
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:44:00 -
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Hanoch Wheel wrote:Andski wrote:the tinfoil in the events channel was hilarious
"CCP should just give the loot to PL instead of wasting our time (((" "THE EVENT WAS RIGGED" It was rigged, in the sense that CCP threw the fight. They shot up the nascent defense fleet and asked them to stand off, then shot at each other near the end, just before the final engagement. I think the defense fleet idea needs some more thought. Perhaps an escort fleet that counters attackers from afar rather then trying to get close to CCP and defending them. I do understand CCP is probably going to run a different sort of event later on today. Hopefully in a different location. I think they did a good job with this event. If they keep switching it up that should go a long way towards evening things out. They idea of separate smaller fleets simultaneously is an interesting one.
Thanks for a more level headed reply. |

Hanoch Wheel
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:47:00 -
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Ospie wrote:
Thanks for a more level headed reply.
You are welcome. Although you quoted me before I corrected my typos durn it. Ah well. :)
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1266
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:48:00 -
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Did you know that CCP has an "Internal Affairs" department meant to handle these very grievances? |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
435
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:50:00 -
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Ospie wrote:
I've been outlaw for longer than your character's even existed. I've fought in 0.0 under a couple of different entities.
I can honestly say I've explored the galaxy and moved out of my comfort zone in eve several times.
Then you would understand how simplistic the mechanics of highsec are compared to the rest of EVE. It is a starting zone, through and through - there is little opportunity for real profit outside market manipulation, and nearly all of the risk-reward gameplay that is so fundamental to EVE is simply absent. Also, I would highly recommend you don't use relative age as a judge of knowledge or character, because this certainly wasn't my first character, and your initial post reeks of ignorance, be it willful or due to being new. |

Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
265
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:51:00 -
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I'm going to have to get CCP Soundwave to give me a BPO for tinfoilhats. I'll be filthy rich. |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
278
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:54:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:I'm going to have to get CCP Soundwave to give me a BPO for tinfoilhats. I'll be filthy rich. In one fell swipe, you'd create demand for your product and allow you to create the product for near free. Genius plan Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks. |

Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring Rote Kapelle
164
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:54:00 -
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Although a wider array of live events would indeed be a good thing, I do not see how you can complain about missing out on one in particular.
That is what makes live events in EVE unique in the first place, they are not content that everyone and their grandmother can get involved in just because they want to. You have to in the right place at the right time in order to participate, and you will be interacting with other players if you are involved.
If you choose to play the game living in the risk free zone; spending your time hording ISK instead of making friends and gaining influence, then you are going to be at an extreme disadvantage against other players when you do want to get involved in events such as these. |

Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:55:00 -
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I kinda like the idea of the CCP fleet as a roaming world raid boss that drops candy for the first fleet to find and kill it. |

Beaches
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.12.09 21:59:00 -
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A lot of the CCP dev alts are in those 0.0 entities you speak of so it's not much of a surprise (a bunch of them came out and said they were in goons)
These type of things come down to alliance morale maintenance, to keep members logging in. Not for us "pubies" as they call us. |

Alexandros Balfros
Liberty Rogues
11
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Posted - 2011.12.09 22:02:00 -
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Crexa wrote:Were the T2 gang link drops BPOs? It shows on the kill board as such.
They will be BPC's as killboards cant tell the difference and no BPO's have been made for T2 modules after the lottery ended :) |

Ospie
Ransom and Kill Core.Impulse
5
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Posted - 2011.12.09 22:02:00 -
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Dradius Calvantia wrote:Although a wider array of live events would indeed be a good thing, I do not see how you can complain about missing out on one in particular.
That is what makes live events in EVE unique in the first place, they are not content that everyone and their grandmother can get involved in just because they want to. You have to in the right place at the right time in order to participate, and you will be interacting with other players if you are involved.
If you choose to play the game living in the risk free zone; spending your time hording ISK instead of making friends and gaining influence, then you are going to be at an extreme disadvantage against other players when you do want to get involved in events such as these.
To be honest I don't see myself even going out to find these fleets unless one happens to show up on my doorstep.
I just think the rewards are rather out of proportion when the specific groups that can actually engage them are so limited. In fact I think 7b on a single vessel is far too much anyway, I was ok with the drops from the first fleet, but this one seems a bit over the top.
Akirei Scytale wrote:Ospie wrote:
I've been outlaw for longer than your character's even existed. I've fought in 0.0 under a couple of different entities.
I can honestly say I've explored the galaxy and moved out of my comfort zone in eve several times.
Then you would understand how simplistic the mechanics of highsec are compared to the rest of EVE. It is a starting zone, through and through - there is little opportunity for real profit outside market manipulation, and nearly all of the risk-reward gameplay that is so fundamental to EVE is simply absent. Also, I would highly recommend you don't use relative age as a judge of knowledge or character, because this certainly wasn't my first character, and your initial post reeks of ignorance, be it willful or due to being new.
If CCP split their fleets up a little then there are a number of highsec based entities would be able to engage them, in lowsec of course, and a great number of lowsec entities who would also be able to fight them. As it is these two groups simply do not have those numbers. |

Mystical Might
The Imperial Fedaykin
23
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Posted - 2011.12.09 22:03:00 -
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What's that Ospie? I couldn't hear ya over the sound of you backstabbing balder.
(Props btw. So totally worth it).
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
435
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Posted - 2011.12.09 22:03:00 -
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Beaches wrote:A lot of the CCP dev alts are in those 0.0 entities you speak of so it's not much of a surprise (a bunch of them came out and said they were in goons)
These type of things come down to alliance morale maintenance, to keep members logging in. Not for us "pubies" as they call us.
Its really just CCP having a little fun and stirring the pot in Nullsec. As is, there is not much warfare over resources, because most of the alliances have settled down into their homes. This is obviously not the case everywhere, but I'd be willing to bet that CCP is trying to create a highly valuable, unpredictable resource that is juicy enough (T2 BPOs) to get alliances that tolerate each other to start fighting over them when they see opportunity. |

Beaches
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.12.09 22:06:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Beaches wrote:A lot of the CCP dev alts are in those 0.0 entities you speak of so it's not much of a surprise (a bunch of them came out and said they were in goons)
These type of things come down to alliance morale maintenance, to keep members logging in. Not for us "pubies" as they call us. Its really just CCP having a little fun and stirring the pot in Nullsec. As is, there is not much warfare over resources, because most of the alliances have settled down into their homes. This is obviously not the case everywhere, but I'd be willing to bet that CCP is trying to create a highly valuable, unpredictable resource that is juicy enough (T2 BPOs) to get alliances that tolerate each other to start fighting over them when they see opportunity.
Wouldn't surprise me, 0.0 entities have been trying to set up little arenas or whatever to do the same thing really, it make sense. I don't think they should be adding t2 BPOs though! they should be removing them! AAHH |
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