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Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
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Posted - 2011.12.11 12:01:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:
No risk, no reward. Also those 2 little frigs or cruisers would be instantly blobbed by everyone in the first hisec system on a gate, and then we'd have to hear you whine about how they didn't choose YOUR system to spawn in, and CCP is excluding the Caldari hisec in favor of Amarr, or some other such crap.
If you want to play with the big fleets, you get to come out to where we are. And I'd much rather have the devs actually, you know, doing their jobs and using these fleets as in-house training into what is right and wrong about null PVP rather than pander to the unwashed horde. (protip: that's you)
If the devs set off unannounced (bearing in mind they can spawn from any station they choose) and aim not to get caught, then the chances of getting big blobs on gates are remote, by the time a fleet is mobilised then they will be many systems away, it would be far more an opportunistic thing.
What info are they gaining from these trecks through nullsec? and if it were purely an information gathering session, then why run it as devs, they could just use neutral characters since most nullsec is NBSI
And finally, there are hundreds times more stations in empire where I can get a wash and brush up compared to nullsec, so if anyone is likely to be unwashed, I think the finger is pointing at you 
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Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.11 12:41:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Ospie wrote:
I've been outlaw for longer than your character's even existed. I've fought in 0.0 under a couple of different entities.
I can honestly say I've explored the galaxy and moved out of my comfort zone in eve several times.
Then you would understand how simplistic the mechanics of highsec are compared to the rest of EVE. It is a starting zone, through and through - there is little opportunity for real profit outside market manipulation, and nearly all of the risk-reward gameplay that is so fundamental to EVE is simply absent. Also, I would highly recommend you don't use relative age as a judge of knowledge or character, because this certainly wasn't my first character, and your initial post reeks of ignorance, be it willful or due to being new.
Yeah you would think the poster had more brains, I mean this alt is only 2 days old so I must clearly be uninformed... |
MadMuppet
Jarts
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Posted - 2011.12.11 13:05:00 -
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Saw last night that I was actually able to go and see this event live. Flew 15 jumps over in a Thrasher (not wanting to risk anything else in what could be a lag fest). Passed through an incursion zone on the way there. Flew in to the middle of the fight right as the defense fleet appeared and watched in slide show awe the fight before me. Got popped.
I then ran back and got a rookie ship and returned to see if I could grab some salvage. Got popped.
So once more to the station for a rookie ship and left the system to go deeper in to null. Ended up picking up a rifter a few jumps later and arming it. Then flew in to a different Incursion area and looted several player wrecks. Dropped my loot in a trade hub, ran back to get some more salvage in the incursion area, got shot at by NPCs and players while doing so.
End result, after about 50 jumps and losing two ships I was up about 50 million isk. Sure I didn't pick up any PLEX or uber ship fitting. I didn't win any PVP fights either, but I did race out in to null at what was potentially the 'worst time to do so' from a safety standpoint, made a profit, and had some fun doing it.
-Your average mostly high-sec carebear
Never trust a soldier wearing velcroed insignia
While not perfect, I find the font at 13 pt and scaling at 90% to be pretty good, and overall better than the old font.-á |
Embrace My Hate
Black Horizon.
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.11 13:17:00 -
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MadMuppet wrote:Saw last night that I was actually able to go and see this event live. Flew 15 jumps over in a Thrasher (not wanting to risk anything else in what could be a lag fest). Passed through an incursion zone on the way there. Flew in to the middle of the fight right as the defense fleet appeared and watched in slide show awe the fight before me. Got popped.
I then ran back and got a rookie ship and returned to see if I could grab some salvage. Got popped.
So once more to the station for a rookie ship and left the system to go deeper in to null. Ended up picking up a rifter a few jumps later and arming it. Then flew in to a different Incursion area and looted several player wrecks. Dropped my loot in a trade hub, ran back to get some more salvage in the incursion area, got shot at by NPCs and players while doing so.
End result, after about 50 jumps and losing two ships I was up about 50 million isk. Sure I didn't pick up any PLEX or uber ship fitting. I didn't win any PVP fights either, but I did race out in to null at what was potentially the 'worst time to do so' from a safety standpoint, made a profit, and had some fun doing it.
-Your average mostly high-sec carebear
Haha awesome =)
Heads up though if you know you're entering a system that might potentially be really laggy turn all of you graphics down, turn effects off and turn brackets off in your overview settings. |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.11 14:32:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:The only things I'm sadd about is that one: -it was too far away and wasn't willing to do almost 70/80 jumps to get hotdroped faster than I can spell it. Oups forgot the "two" (very important internets stufz) -couldn't get CCP Punkturis corpse 
I wasn't there this time but maybe you'll have better luck sometime later!
CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Schani Kratnorr
x13
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.12.11 15:13:00 -
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Not aimed at anyone in particular. General historical observations on employee participation in MMOs, and EVE in particular. If you are a current player, you may wish to skip this post entirely.
/TLDR: I am better than you because you are all stupid and CCP is ignoring their past and throwing caution to the wind.
I am reminded of the "mining laser2 Scenario"
Polaris frigate is blown up
...and drops a mining laser with stats. "corresponding to tech level 5,"
...which is then picked up by a player,
...who refuses to return it,
...forcing company in charge to compromise,
...by offering trade for a T2 Mining laser BPO,
...creating further problems when player tells rest of community,
...forcing company in charge to admit they gave,
...ANOTHER BPO to someone else, "to make it even."
The above story is shrouded by the opaque veil of history, but I was reminded of it when I first read about CCP deciding to visit their game. My initial thoughts were positive.
By taking part in an official capacity, CCP may score points with the community, learn more about their product, build a stronger team, and so on. The way it is being done is a big risk however. In general terms, GM participation in their own persistent MMO is subject to accusations of bias and favouritism, and should be avoided completely. Hiring "actors," to play NPCs and developing the tools for them is probably better in the long run (see also, COSMOS and incursion mechanics.)
It is also worth noting, that the formation of the Council of Stellar Management (CSM,) was in large part prompted by accusations of cheating by a database administrator. As I recall, he spawned an interdictor BPO for himself, got found out by players, who in turn broke the law when they broke into fellow community members' private forums. This event effectively re-booted the "OMG! Alliance So-and-so is full of GMs"-meme.
I understand why CCP may want to do this as a team building exercise, but its not exactly "playing the game" now is it. Without play being dictated by having to overcome the death penalty (having to spend time getting isk to get new gear,) the whole thing is meaningless and belongs on a test server - this is probably the one thing that always ruins "GM participation," in most persistent worlds.
I just cannot help having a "baaaaad feeling about this..." whenever I see a GM drop juicy gear because the potential for rage is so high.
Also. It is common knowledge that we already have all the developers in the alliance. We also have the "Guldske I" gang warfare module which increases the rate of faction spawns, and so on, and so forth... |
Pallidum Treponema
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.12.11 15:24:00 -
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MadMuppet wrote:Saw last night that I was actually able to go and see this event live. Flew 15 jumps over in a Thrasher (not wanting to risk anything else in what could be a lag fest). Passed through an incursion zone on the way there. Flew in to the middle of the fight right as the defense fleet appeared and watched in slide show awe the fight before me. Got popped.
I then ran back and got a rookie ship and returned to see if I could grab some salvage. Got popped.
So once more to the station for a rookie ship and left the system to go deeper in to null. Ended up picking up a rifter a few jumps later and arming it. Then flew in to a different Incursion area and looted several player wrecks. Dropped my loot in a trade hub, ran back to get some more salvage in the incursion area, got shot at by NPCs and players while doing so.
End result, after about 50 jumps and losing two ships I was up about 50 million isk. Sure I didn't pick up any PLEX or uber ship fitting. I didn't win any PVP fights either, but I did race out in to null at what was potentially the 'worst time to do so' from a safety standpoint, made a profit, and had some fun doing it.
-Your average mostly high-sec carebear
You, Sir, are about 100% cooler than the people who complain about these events. You had no huge expectations. You brought a ship that you could afford to lose, and you created your own content. You even profited from this event. And most importantly, you had fun. |
Crystal Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
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Posted - 2011.12.11 15:59:00 -
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Mass events are one of the worst game ideas ever, UO used to have them and it was the same old ****, lag fest and only a few get to participate.
I guess these guys live in isolation somewhere near the north pole, so they keep repeating mistakes everyone elese made 10 years ago.
They probably still wear neon clothing from the 80s too.
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Sinead O'Toole
POKER TAX CHEATING POKER TAX EVASION
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Posted - 2011.12.11 16:18:00 -
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why do people itt think PL/NCdot/anyone in nullsec gives a **** about 17b or whatever the drop was? |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
520
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Posted - 2011.12.11 16:23:00 -
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Sinead O'Toole wrote:why do people itt think PL/NCdot/anyone in nullsec gives a **** about 17b or whatever the drop was?
our primary mission was to destroy it, so I guess you could say we cared
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Dr Silkworth
Two Geezers in Space
0
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Posted - 2011.12.11 18:21:00 -
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This must be the Null Sec buff that CSM cried for. |
Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
158
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Posted - 2011.12.11 18:30:00 -
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ITT: Null alliances drink their high sec posting alt tears. |
Kuronaga
Controlled Substance
25
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Posted - 2011.12.12 20:20:00 -
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Ospie wrote:Kuronaga wrote:The big alliances are successfully taking advantage of this event because they are successful people.
Other players are not, therefore they have no shot at this.
So I will ask this.
Why should a peasant, content to wallow in his own filth and never improve, be rewarded? Joining a 0.0 alliance is all downhill from where I am, you 0.0 scrub.
I see your peasant mind failed to grasp the question, let alone an answer. |
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