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d026
Herrscher der Zeit Jagdgeschwader
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:04:00 -
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so i just lost my precious raven, so i jumped back to empire (we just arrived in 0.0 so we need some time to set up production) and what do i see raven price went up arround 20 to 25 milions within the last few days across several regions. what the **** happened here? what did i miss?
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Tasuric Orka
Antares Fleet Yards
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:06:00 -
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The patch deployment, when every player with enough isk to spare grabbed one of the new BC/BS's from the shelves?
 Originally by: Deja Thoris
The dead horse has now been flogged into puree.
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vladdy2
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:06:00 -
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you missed the prices of Trit and pyer going up as well as Mex.
Low mins demand on the rise push prices makes building more expensive means you pay more for yer Ships.
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Utoxin
Kydance Radiant Industries
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:07:00 -
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Most likely relate to the price spike in minerals caused by all the new ships getting built. It'll come back down.
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: LUGAL MOP''N''GLO on 14/12/2006 21:13:53
Ya, nocxium is at an all time high I think too...
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:19:00 -
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mega going down, iso stagnating as always, zyd going down strong, nox starting to fall.
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Montaire
Lacedaemon.
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:24:00 -
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Its lows that are going up. And I think its probably a long term change.
CCP banned somthing like 120 macro / bot accounts about a week and a half ago. What you are noticing is a large number of macro'ers that are no longer mining. Literally about 200 barges are not working 23/7 anymore.
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit Jagdgeschwader
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:27:00 -
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stop ganking the macro miners, nd besides stop baning them:9
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire
Its lows that are going up. And I think its probably a long term change.
CCP banned somthing like 120 macro / bot accounts about a week and a half ago. What you are noticing is a large number of macro'ers that are no longer mining. Literally about 200 barges are not working 23/7 anymore.
Where did you get this info from?
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Nicocat
Caldari
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:32:00 -
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Yay, death to the macro ****nuts. If you want minerals, mine them yourselves. Or mine with guns; did you know 99% of all ship modules require some trit, and that all rats drop some modules when killed?
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Oedus Caro
Caldari
Caldari Deep Space Ventures
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01
Originally by: Montaire
Its lows that are going up. And I think its probably a long term change.
CCP banned somthing like 120 macro / bot accounts about a week and a half ago. What you are noticing is a large number of macro'ers that are no longer mining. Literally about 200 barges are not working 23/7 anymore.
Where did you get this info from?
Indeed where did you get that from? If it's true, I'd just like to say: thank you CCP. 
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NiiKleagh
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: NiiKleagh on 14/12/2006 22:00:57
Edited by: NiiKleagh on 14/12/2006 21:51:35
Gentlemen, I give you may take on this a few days ago.
Throughout the thread I have seemingly blinded dilrods trying to argue "It ain't the case!"
Ahh... but it is: Inflation
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Scouty McScouter
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Posted - 2006.12.14 22:09:00 -
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actual answer: got bought up for mins to bulid new BSs with if you didn't feel like hauling for 10 hours...
(blame dark shikari and his kin, he bought up all the cheap ones in jita. hmm, included my few but... eh)
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Volcom V
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.14 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire
Its lows that are going up. And I think its probably a long term change.
CCP banned somthing like 120 macro / bot accounts about a week and a half ago. What you are noticing is a large number of macro'ers that are no longer mining. Literally about 200 barges are not working 23/7 anymore.
All those Hulksą
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Karash Amerius
Amarr
O.E.C
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Posted - 2006.12.14 22:22:00 -
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I support the banning of macro miners
Now get to work carebears and pick up the slack!!! 
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GrumpyCat
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Posted - 2006.12.14 22:27:00 -
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With so many wars going on and people getting insurance payouts, the isk pool is getting bigger which is causing inflation. Anyway why are you buying a raven in empire? You should build them in 0.00 with high ends you mine and reprocess the junk modules from ratting for the low ends.
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dantes inferno
Caldari
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.12.14 22:30:00 -
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i remember a time when ravens were 130 mil. so 120 aint so bad
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2006.12.14 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Karash Amerius
I support the banning of macro miners
Now get to work carebears and pick up the slack!!!
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Yes sir, all barge alts are sitting tight in lonetrek grinding those roids. I have murdered 3 belts in the region today alone. 
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Hoshi
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.14 22:48:00 -
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Strontium prices have gone from 2k to 5k per unit since Rev. Guess everyone is making probes from it.
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MrTripps
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.14 23:05:00 -
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With a patch releasing new ships and a fresh drop of t2 bpos a run on minerals and subsequently higher ship prices is completely predictable. The market will adjust because that is what markets do.
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Qutsemnie
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.14 23:05:00 -
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You can prolly buy your own minerals on market and make your own cheaper. I havent researched the raven but the typhoon is unusually spiked and its not mineral cost its the lack of production competition. Mineral cost + BP at market on a typhoon was near 70 million. I sold one last night at 81.5 million in about 30 minutes. Thats only possible because roleplaying producers have been drawn off I think. So in the meantime train your efficiency to 4, use the contract system to find a BPC, and check the cost on raven and see if you can make it quickly and profitably. Or just buy it for 120 million~ Opportunity cost is a mofo'r
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GrumpyCat
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Posted - 2006.12.14 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Qutsemnie
You can prolly buy your own minerals on market and make your own cheaper. I havent researched the raven but the typhoon is unusually spiked and its not mineral cost its the lack of production competition. Mineral cost + BP at market on a typhoon was near 70 million. I sold one last night at 81.5 million in about 30 minutes. Thats only possible because roleplaying producers have been drawn off I think. So in the meantime train your efficiency to 4, use the contract system to find a BPC, and check the cost on raven and see if you can make it quickly and profitably. Or just buy it for 120 million~ Opportunity cost is a mofo'r
Not really. With mex being priced so high, you'll see that 120 is actually at cost. Unamed T1 market is stupid that way in jita, people sell things at costs or very minimal profit. Only way you're going to make any decent money manufactoring is either t2 or capital ship.
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Riga Mortiss
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Posted - 2006.12.14 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: d026
so i just lost my precious raven, so i jumped back to empire (we just arrived in 0.0 so we need some time to set up production) and what do i see raven price went up arround 20 to 25 milions within the last few days across several regions. what the **** happened here? what did i miss?
sorry I'm not making fun of your surprise M8.. but here is the concrete result of so MANY people screaming "WTF BAN MACRO MINERS!!" bla bla..posts..
mining is about as fun as watching your cat shed fur....
hence not many are doing it to the extent that there is ship demand for minerals.. and so the price will go up and up... at least for the base mins like Trit, pyr and mex.. IMO..
The irony of this thread is truly delicious... 
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Qutsemnie
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.14 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: Qutsemnie on 14/12/2006 23:28:35
You're generalizing, and im saying if you look at the specifics for some reason at moment that is just not true.
Here use this:
http://www.gbnetwork.co.uk/eve/
I did. I used price for minerals of at the moment what could I buy to produce a raven at this second. (ie real prices not dream prices). And I calculate a 106.8 million raven production cost using forge mineral prices not counting BPC. One KEY thing to understand in this mineral market is its easier to secure one run of BS minerals at reasonable prices then 20 runs.
Item Raven
Item ME 30
My PE 4
Runs 1
Tritanium 7,982,180
Pyerite 1,995,960
Mexallon 500,017
Isogen 124,846
Nocxium 31,175
Zydrine 7,437
Megacyte 2,374
Morphite 0
Total Build Cost 106,863,156.90
Unit Build Cost 106,863,156.90
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Kerushi
Caldari
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.14 23:27:00 -
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stop complaining, when eve went live, a bs costed over 150m and during castor/exodus transition they went up to 130m 
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Jimmy Dolittle
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Posted - 2006.12.14 23:29:00 -
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I think the mission nerf plays a role in price increases as well. There were a lot of guys cutting in their mission space to avoid can theft. That is mostly over now, so this one supply stream drying up.
Also since you canĘt mission run or mine in secure space, it really only leaves moving to 0.0. And if you are going to mine in 0.0, you are not going to cut Veldspar. Thus you see an increased supply of Megac, Zyd and Noxc (lower prices) and a deceased supply of low-end mins.
New ships, new modules, less production of raw materials the net effect is higher prices. ArenĘt basic economics fun !!
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.15 00:25:00 -
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I thought HdZ was a production corp? Say hi to Rugah for me, bought quite a few ships from him when I was in Scalding Pass.
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit Jagdgeschwader
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2006.12.15 03:32:00 -
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Edited by: d026 on 15/12/2006 03:34:31
Edited by: d026 on 15/12/2006 03:32:38
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I thought HdZ was a production corp? Say hi to Rugah for me, bought quite a few ships from him when I was in Scalding Pass.
we moved up to venal few days ago. takes a a while to get the whole production started. anyway we have never been a production corp. sure we sell ships if we get enough mins coming in but we mainly do pvp at the moment.
btw i'll let him know:) and btw if im right we are - to v now lets shoot burzon yay:P
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Kerosene
Caldari
Fun Inc
Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.15 03:37:00 -
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A battleship costs about 8 decent missions for me. Mex/Py/Trit can go to 10k/unit. I don't care. A battleship still costs about 8 decent missions.
Actually, that was not constructive to the thread but I feel it needs pointing out anyway.
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Zeko Rena
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Posted - 2006.12.15 03:43:00 -
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Alwyas look for me selling on the market i sell everything 5%-15% below regional average
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