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Bastogne
Caldari
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.12.27 21:24:00 -
[271]
So... Revelations. Time for peace is over & all that. What if they storyline that CONCORD failed to keep the peace and was disbanded and the empires no longer offer security except for their own races. Psuedo 0.0-Empire space.
/tin-foil
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.12.27 21:29:00 -
[272]
 Originally by: dailyhazard
For the same reasons the pope doesent allow abortion of euthanasia i feel ccp not giving a gift is the start of a downward spiral of Developer-Consumer relations.
If anything, I would say the new customers started it. People go to great lengths to post hurtful things about ccp in these forums. Guess they need a punching bag or something.
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Dielax
The Clearwater Society
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Posted - 2006.12.27 22:13:00 -
[273]
Edited by: Dielax on 27/12/2006 22:15:45
I am annoyed because they said they had something in the works. Flat out implying that they were going to do something. IF they weren't going to do it then they should have said anything.
IF you say your going to do something then you should do it plane and simple. If that was a crock of ---- then just give everyone snow ball launchers again.
Quote:
We've got something in the works, but we're not going to spoil the surprise. Can't say any more than that. Just going to have to wait for Christmas like everyone else.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
PS: Thanks for an official reply to all the *****ing and complaining.
Glad to know that my 2 accounts are helping to pay for someones time off.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2006.12.27 22:18:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 27/12/2006 21:40:04
Originally by: dailyhazard
For the same reasons the pope doesent allow abortion of euthanasia i feel ccp not giving a gift is the start of a downward spiral of Developer-Consumer relations.
If anything, I would say the new customers started it. People go to great lengths to post hurtful things about ccp in these forums. Guess they need a punching bag or something.
Its just ironic to later see the posts about "why dont they care about us"... 
I think its easy to forget that the devs do read these forums, and they do read the insults. They are people, not just a company. So I think everyone should think about how you would feel if you had a forum where most threads are whine, and the rest are insults... most likely you wouldnt even want to be here.
Caring is a two-way street btw... if you dont care about ccp, why should they care about you? I certainly wouldnt...
/ranting off... 
QFE. But Jim, I do think the Devs knows that a lot of the playerbase DO care about them. Not just as a provider of a fantastic game, but also as people. Im not sure if you where at the fanfest, but I saw it to a great extendt there. And I told Oveur in person. They certainly can do mistakes now and then, but wtf. they listen. and if they feel we are right, they act. But listen they do always. which imo is pretty rare for a gamecompany.
Christmas presents are always nice. I guess I will never grow up completely  But I can be without it. just give me a decent christmas dinner, with lot of good wine with family and friends.
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Juwi Kotch
Gallente
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.12.27 22:31:00 -
[275]
Somehow this discussion brings the picture of a bunch of fat spoiled kids to my mind, demanding precious gifts from their parents, totally forgetting that they work their ass off to provide food, housing, and education to them. It gets difficult to me to realize, that the average age of EVE online players is said to be significant above 8 or 9.
 
Juwi Kotch
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Daar
Gallente
United Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.27 22:44:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Juwi Kotch
Somehow this discussion brings the picture of a bunch of fat spoiled kids to my mind, demanding precious gifts from their parents, totally forgetting that they work their ass off to provide food, housing, and education to them. It gets difficult to me to realize, that the average age of EVE online players is said to be significant above 8 or 9.
Juwi Kotch
People are angry cos:
a) CCP said they have something ready for Christmas.
b) WE (the players) PAY for this game. As such, the argument that "they work their ass off" is silly.
c) I hate to do this, and I'll prolly get flamed for this but... Guild Wars doesn't require people to pay for the game each month. Yet they manage to, somehow, keep up with all important festivities, be it Christmas, Haloween, Easter, and prepare some sort of "event".
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dailyhazard
Caldari
Kemono.
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Posted - 2006.12.27 22:47:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Juwi Kotch
Somehow this discussion brings the picture of a bunch of fat spoiled kids to my mind, demanding precious gifts from their parents, totally forgetting that they work their ass off to provide food, housing, and education to them. It gets difficult to me to realize, that the average age of EVE online players is said to be significant above 8 or 9.
Juwi Kotch
No its one minded people like yourself who end up with children like that.
THe majority of people whining are people who are seeing it as the start of something that you should be more concerned about.
Like when your child starts listening to 50 cent and has a 18 year old 6ft tall boyfreind at 12.
The life ahead is what you have to look at, it was once said a child doesent think into the route ahead it just thinks of what they have right now and then, this seems to be your mindset.
If they dont reply i swear i will go the next fanfest, wear a santa suit and hand all the devs pieces of coal 
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2006.12.27 23:16:00 -
[278]
Originally by: dailyhazard
If they dont reply i swear i will go the next fanfest, wear a santa suit and hand all the devs pieces of coal
Most likely they have allready got some from their wives and girlfriends, because of spending too much time at work, rather then joining them at their daily shopping spree at the local clothing- and shoe shop  Girls worldwide are pretty much alike when it comes to their obsession for shoes.
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Pooka
Caldari
United Space Aillance USA
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Posted - 2006.12.27 23:52:00 -
[279]
I personal think the DEV put in charge of making something to hand out at Christmas time failed. Be it too many other EVE things needing fixed or famliy time or drinking to much, the work didn't get done. Can you say PLANNING needs to be done upfront, not at the last minute???????
I would of though it cool if it snowed at log in or feisty music playing in the stations.
Even Earth and Beyond could handle the music in stations during Christmas season .....................................
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Dai007
Caldari
Crabbs
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Posted - 2006.12.27 23:54:00 -
[280]
Originally by: dailyhazard
As i posted on another forum.
people asking for a present are not sad, they arent asking for too much, its the thought that counts on christmas, if the thought was there last christmas but it wasnt this christmas, then i feel theres an obvious degradation in there thoughts on the community,
For the same reasons the pope doesent allow abortion of euthanasia i feel ccp not giving a gift is the start of a downward spiral of Developer-Consumer relations.
1. Yes they are sad.
And if you say that its the thought that counts then maybe they thought of giving the players a xmas gift but then didnt do it. So we should be all happy cause its the thought that counts!.
Too many greedy people here, there is NO need to supply xmas gifts. If you want dressed up characters as santa then go play WoW.
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.12.28 00:02:00 -
[281]
The only thing I wish from the EVE devs is for them to stay at home during the Christmas holidays with their families. The rest of you can go and rot with your petty claims for attention.
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Cupertino
Castellum
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:29:00 -
[282]
This thread delivers...
...but Santa didn't! 
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swoj
The New Order.
United Connection's
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:16:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Daar
People are angry cos:
a) CCP said they have something ready for Christmas.
b) WE (the players) PAY for this game. As such, the argument that "they work their ass off" is silly.
c) I hate to do this, and I'll prolly get flamed for this but... Guild Wars doesn't require people to pay for the game each month. Yet they manage to, somehow, keep up with all important festivities, be it Christmas, Haloween, Easter, and prepare some sort of "event".
Addressing points A & B, I can see plenty of whining in this thread about how the players 'deserved' a Christmas present from CCP - however had CCP put developer resources into doing this as they had originally intended, we can only imagine the scale of the whine threads complaining about why CCP are wasting time on silly gimmicks when there are bugs in the game from the Revelations patch that still need to be addressed!
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Daar
Gallente
United Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:42:00 -
[284]
Edited by: Daar on 28/12/2006 17:42:38
Originally by: swoj
Originally by: Daar
People are angry cos:
a) CCP said they have something ready for Christmas.
b) WE (the players) PAY for this game. As such, the argument that "they work their ass off" is silly.
c) I hate to do this, and I'll prolly get flamed for this but... Guild Wars doesn't require people to pay for the game each month. Yet they manage to, somehow, keep up with all important festivities, be it Christmas, Haloween, Easter, and prepare some sort of "event".
Addressing points A & B, I can see plenty of whining in this thread about how the players 'deserved' a Christmas present from CCP - however had CCP put developer resources into doing this as they had originally intended, we can only imagine the scale of the whine threads complaining about why CCP are wasting time on silly gimmicks when there are bugs in the game from the Revelations patch that still need to be addressed!
Well, then fix one of the many annoying bugs and call THAT a present if you must...
EDIT: O'course no bugs were fixed so far, so the whole point still stands.
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Daar
Free will is an illusion... |
Yolan
Forsaken Empire
The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:49:00 -
[285]
OMFG grow the **** up!
I cant beleive people are getting upset cause they havent been given a ******* snowball launcher. FFS unbeleivable
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Tornan
Minmatar
Oberon Incorporated
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.12.28 18:00:00 -
[286]
I take it people saying ccp doesnt owe us anything dont work in any type of service industry where you have to deal with clients.
Of my vendors that I deal with I dont demand or expect a large gift for xmas but we do get some sort of apreciation that its xmas and thanks for your business and almost always gett invited to a big holiday bash.
And to my own custumers you bet your sweet ass that we send our largest custumers a gift of apreciation and try to do something nice for the smaller ones.
Its called PR and Marketing. and its amazing how a little thing can go a long way in regards to custumer relations.
Not that I am demanding anything from CCP.
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Snarls McGee
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Posted - 2006.12.28 18:44:00 -
[287]
Originally by: Yolan
OMFG grow the [mod] up!
I cant beleive people are getting upset cause they havent been given a [mod]ing snowball launcher. FFS unbeleivable
FWIW, the lack of present didn't kill my Christmas. I didn't take down my tree in a fit of rage. I didn't grab a pitchfork, form a mob and go on a witch hunt.
But it DID kill any vision of "professionalism" in my eyes. A *dev* outright told us they had something 'big' in the works and we'd have to wait until Christmas to find out what it was.
CCP *offered* the promise of a gift to us. The customers didn't demand it ahead of time. Sure there was speculation on what we'd get but I saw most of those threads as light hearted 'wish lists' like when we were all kids.
What is even funnier is that nearly every single post filled with profanity and venom on the subject have come from people attacking the customers who are asking "uh, what gives?" like you. I had to self-mod your quote because of childish profane filled insults. Who's more childish here?
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Yolan
Forsaken Empire
The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.28 19:19:00 -
[288]
They are just words like many others in the English language, if you get upset by them then tough, I use those words to express how strongly I feel about people who as far as I can see are acting like overgrown children who didn't get what they wanted for christmas.
If you really feel so strongly about the issue there are other games that do give out freebies and put up nice Christmas decorations around the land, but enjoy paying for all the expansions for those games.
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Snarls McGee
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Posted - 2006.12.28 19:40:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Yolan
They are just words like many others in the English language, if you get upset by them then tough, I use those words to express how strongly I feel about people who as far as I can see are acting like overgrown children who didn't get what they wanted for christmas.
If you really feel so strongly about the issue there are other games that do give out freebies and put up nice Christmas decorations around the land, but enjoy paying for all the expansions for those games.
My point is that it seems hypocritical. I cuss like a sailor but I also konw profanity is generally considered uncouth (especially the "f" bomb). Here you are so unhappy with people who are, in your opinion, acting childish and treating CCP with disrespect that you hurl uncouth insults at them and treat them with even more disrespect and act even more childish? I fail to see how being more 'over the top' than those you're complaining about is proving your opinion or even rational.
But that's just me..
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Puca
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.28 22:31:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Yolan
They are just words like many others in the English language, if you get upset by them then tough, I use those words to express how strongly I feel about people who as far as I can see are acting like overgrown children who didn't get what they wanted for christmas.
If you really feel so strongly about the issue there are other games that do give out freebies and put up nice Christmas decorations around the land, but enjoy paying for all the expansions for those games.
And those that are not intelligent enough to use words consisting of more then 4 letters use profanity to express their "strong feelings".
And I agree that the DEVs should not of announced a "big surprise" then go totally silence on the issue. At least they could of said we are sorry no surprise this year because.......
I feel our community leader and DEVs have less us down.
Oh well time to go run some missions.
Bye.
PS Thanks CCP for the warp to zero. Thats a nice present for me!!
I am an Alt looking for my own way.
The true is within me.
Trust no one.
Believe.
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Sara Dawn
BIG
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Posted - 2007.01.02 17:05:00 -
[291]
Now that the Devs are back to work we the community would appreciate some words on this.
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Jimmy Dolittle
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Posted - 2007.01.02 17:25:00 -
[292]
An X-mas present like last year would have been nice, but not expected. Even if it was just making more snowballs available.
I thought they would AT LEAST kick on the snow flake generator. They already had that.
Now I am looking forward to green Quafe Ultra for St. PatrickĘs Day. DonĘt let me down CCP !
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Redbad
Minmatar
Gingerbread Reapers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.02 17:25:00 -
[293]
Huh? Funny thread.
To the whiners: Did you sing all of your songs like: Jinglebombs and Rudolph the Rednosed CCP Pirate Developper? Helped to put up the Caldari manufactured tree and spend hours getting those knots out of the cables of the little Amarr candlelights? Did you put every Minnie ship as decoration in the tree? Were your New Years fireworks shot from Arbalest Launchers bought in Jita?
No?
How on earth could CCP know that you were celebrating Eve-Mas then?
It's like belt-piracy, you have to prepare yourselves before getting anything. Get that tree up next year and I'm sure the Icelandic Santa Eve will find you.
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Thaneal Swiftbird
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Posted - 2007.01.02 17:48:00 -
[294]
I did not wish to get any presents from CCP, nor have I ever asked for any.
But what I really fail to understand, is why they even denied to provide stuff we could buy. It would have been nice to spend some isk, lets say 5 million or so, to get a snowball launcher and a few hundred snowballs. People could have organized some player events that way, spreading good spirit and a bit of christmas feeling.
I have been playing many MMOG¦s. I never got any presents up to now. But I allways got the tools to bring the christmas spirit to the game myself. Be it a quest that resulted in a stash of cookies I could give to other players, some handcrafted chocolate, or whatever. Stuff like this already has a tradition in online games, that reaches far back to the years when eve wasn¦t even a rough sketch on some drawing board.
Yes, CCP has to face some serious questions about why they did not care. How many minutes would it have taken to seed snowball-launchers at some stations, so players can buy them? How many minutes of effort (before you close your office for christmas holidays) would a bit of christmas in eve have been worth?
With best regards
Thaneal Swiftbird
PS: I just used snowball-launchers as a well known example. ANYTHING christmas or winter related would have been ok. Heck even just a bit of jingle-bells in the stations would have been better then nothing.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.02 18:29:00 -
[295]
I have faith that the devs will deliever (maybe in time for Chinese New Year (not asian by the way))
Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
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Ranger 1
Amarr
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.02 18:42:00 -
[296]
This thread certainly proves the old adage:
"No good deed goes unpunished."
I think it was very nice of them to come up with something for Christmas last year... even though they got grief from many elements of the player base for wasting resources on foolishness. I also think it's pretty evident they were trying to pull off something nifty for us this year as well.
Evidently it did not work out. Get over it.
When they have time to comment on something this trivial, I'm sure they will. Until then, get a grip ladies.
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Santiak
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Posted - 2007.01.02 18:47:00 -
[297]
This thread is spiraling down the drain quite rapidly - and in itself only managed to help kill the xmas spirit.
Yes, we were promised a christmas gift, and so far there has been no in-game chances. Perhaps something will happen during the extended downtime on Thursday, and if not, well, increased stability is a gift in itself. :)
Moreover, is it ridiculous to demand we, the community, gave the Devs an xmas gift? Or is this whole gift-business suddenly a one-way street? Granted the scale is different, but it's the thought that counts - as have been pointed out numerous times in this thread. :)
No, I have not given them a gift, i wish i could say i had.
But there's always next year. :)
For what it's worth, i hope you all had a pleasent christmas and a good new years eve.
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kieron
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Posted - 2007.01.02 20:37:00 -
[298]
I apologize for the lack of something being patched into EVE on Christmas, as I had been told and also promised the community. I'm looking into what happened and what will be done about it.
kieron
Community Manager,
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Nero Scuro
Caldari
Murder of Crows
E N I G M A
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Posted - 2007.01.02 20:51:00 -
[299]
Non-contructive posts like this gets fed to Tirg's goat, head first. - Devil ([email protected])
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Kerushi
Caldari
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.01.02 21:13:00 -
[300]
Originally by: kieron
I apologize for the lack of something being patched into EVE on Christmas, as I had been told and also promised the community. I'm looking into what happened and what will be done about it.
tbh, more promises broken then deliverd
been here since late alpha and i`m still wondering why promises are being made as we all know they`ll allways be soonÖ wich comes done to NeverÖ
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