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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.16 09:30:00 -
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Edited by: DarknessInc on 16/12/2006 09:48:32 Okay. So I bought a NEW pilgrim. And a new Cov Ops cloak (I miss when they were 50M each)
Also, this is going to be working in a Recon TEAM, meaning I will not be solo. <.< I forgot to add that
Highs: 2x Dark Blood Medium Nosferatu (15KM) Drains 57.6 1x Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer (14KM) Drains 288, takes 153 1x Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Mid: 1x 10MN Afterburner II 1x J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I 1x Tracking Disruptor II ( no faction version) 1x Cap Recharger I 1x Ship Scanner I
Low: 1x Medium 'Accomodation' Vestment Reconstructor I 1x N-Type Adaptive Nano Membrane I 1x True Sansha Energized Magnetic Membrane 1x 200mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I (might swap this for a T2 version) 1x Co-Processor II
and now! For the budget
Pilgrim = 85M Cov Ops Cloak = 77.5M N-Type EANM = 4.44M Tracking Disruptor II = 375k 2x DB NOS = 118M 1x DB Neut = 20M and the rest
Final price for buying (bought like 75% of this stuff)
362,893,850.01
Sooo! How do you think this setup will work out. Im gonna be tweaking it, and yes I have T2 drones, and soon will have Recon lv4 in a few days ( ^_^ YAY )
So, experienced Pilgrim pilots, tell me what you think (i need to get a nice 20Km or 15KM 2 pt scambler. Which appears to be a Hakim)
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari Kemono.
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Posted - 2006.12.16 09:40:00 -
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your setup is wrong in so lots of ways ....
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.16 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter your setup is wrong in so lots of ways ....
lol perhaps for solo Work, but Im not flying this baby solo
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari Kemono.
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Posted - 2006.12.16 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter your setup is wrong in so lots of ways ....
lol perhaps for solo Work, but Im not flying this baby solo
ok ... well your meds are wrong .. get more tracking ditributors sort out your lows do u realy need that co-procesor II ?? put bigger plate
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Posted - 2006.12.16 10:03:00 -
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I don't fly a pilgrim just yet, but just looking at it, it doesn't make a whole of sense and your going to cry when it gets blown up.
Maybe use 3 Nos instead of Nuet but Nuets fine if your skills are good and you know what your doing.
Id drop the ship scanner and the cap recharger (or at least use t2) for another tracking disruptor and a web.
lows: t2 rep, 2 EANs, dmg control. t2 CPU if you need it.
just my 2x tho. this will keep it a little cheaper and it will be more versatile. With just an AB and no web stuff will get away from you still and you might as well use the ship bonuses fully.
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Breed Love
FATAL REVELATIONS
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Posted - 2006.12.16 10:03:00 -
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Can you tell me where you are gonna be flying it, I happen to need some easy isk.
Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other!
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Sinner aint'no'Saint
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Posted - 2006.12.16 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter your setup is wrong in so lots of ways ....
lol perhaps for solo Work, but Im not flying this baby solo
obviously, but it still doesn't make sense.
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Moadyb
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.12.16 10:08:00 -
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/me runs to location agent
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Agent2 Holtze
Amarr Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.16 10:29:00 -
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jesus christ.
0.o
High: 2x E50 1x Unstable Neutralizer 1xCloak TII
Mid: 1xAB TII 2x Balmer Tracking Disruptors 1xTS Warp disruptor 1x90% web
Low: 1x Med rep TII 2xNano Adaptive 1xTS Therm passiv hardner and 1x 800mm plate
Sell those DB nos and neut( besides, the Unstable neutralizer is better anyway) they require more GP than normal nos'
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DarkElf
Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2006.12.16 11:03:00 -
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ship scanner? hakim warp disruptor? cap recharger I? OMG dude sort those 3 out. for a start check the fitting on those kinf of scrams. tbh i don't use a propulsion mod on my pilgrim as i fit a web and i'll only be decloaked when i'm within web range anyway.
highs look about right.
with ur lows i'm surprised u need the co proc, pls tell me ur gonna fit a better rep than that, and a 200 plate on a cruiser is pointless imo. u gain a tiny bit of hp for a very important slot.
u can fit an 800 plate on a pilgrim, medium t2 rep and decent mids with same highs as urs.
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Ice Globe
Amarr Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.16 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Ice Globe on 16/12/2006 11:16:28 Why fit a ship scanner? You cannot use it whilst cloaked, so you might as well put something useful there so when you do uncloak you can actually kill something.
Don't fit a cap recharger, you have nos! Just deactivate the neut if you run into cap problems, and besided your in a gang, so your prob going to gank the target within a minute.
Repper, n-type and plate need to be much better. Get t2 of each and try getting a 800 plate, as 200 isn't doing much for you.
Also why have you got a kinetic membrane, the pilgrim's weak spot is thermic. ______________
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volly
Amarr SteelVipers YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.12.16 11:21:00 -
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High: 2x E50 NOS 1x small Neutralizer 1xCloak TII
Mid: 1x90%Web 1x7.5k Scrambler 2x Dampener 1xECM Burst
Low: 1x Med rep TII 2xNano Adaptive II 1xTS Therm Membrane II and 1x 1600mm plate
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DarkElf
Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2006.12.16 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: volly High: 2x E50 NOS 1x small Neutralizer 1xCloak TII
Mid: 1x90%Web 1x7.5k Scrambler 2x Dampener 1xECM Burst
Low: 1x Med rep TII 2xNano Adaptive II 1xTS Therm Membrane II and 1x 1600mm plate
that's actually a mean setup. if u get a bs without a sensor booster it's evil.
DE
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.16 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Breed Love Can you tell me where you are gonna be flying it, I happen to need some easy isk.
HAHAHA
awww. :P i used to fly with youuuuu!!
and Im not finished with the setup and yes I need that Co-Pro untill I have Recon Lv4, cuz right now its at lv3 and Im short 100 CPU
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.16 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ice Globe Edited by: Ice Globe on 16/12/2006 11:16:28 Why fit a ship scanner? You cannot use it whilst cloaked, so you might as well put something useful there so when you do uncloak you can actually kill something.
Don't fit a cap recharger, you have nos! Just deactivate the neut if you run into cap problems, and besided your in a gang, so your prob going to gank the target within a minute.
Repper, n-type and plate need to be much better. Get t2 of each and try getting a 800 plate, as 200 isn't doing much for you.
Also why have you got a kinetic membrane, the pilgrim's weak spot is thermic.
Ohh well. I was throwing stuff on her at first. Im not done tweaking her, and her lock range is 114KM natural, so I was thinking of warping at 100KM, scanning something at 100KM, warping away, cloak and then return if their setup can be beaten by me
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Ice Globe
Amarr Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.16 19:41:00 -
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To uncloak, scan somebody and cloak again is just giving away that you are there. If the person being scanned had any sense he would move system and laugh at you. ______________
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Soraya Kha'marr
Amarr Gun Metal Priests The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.12.16 19:44:00 -
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anyone with two bits of sense in them will GTFO when they see a pilgrim warp in, especially once it locks.
This space is mine, mine alone!!!oneoneeleven! (You can rent it for cookies though.)
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Angus McLean
Gallente Divinity Trials
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Posted - 2006.12.16 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc
Originally by: Breed Love Can you tell me where you are gonna be flying it, I happen to need some easy isk.
HAHAHA
awww. :P i used to fly with youuuuu!!
and Im not finished with the setup and yes I need that Co-Pro untill I have Recon Lv4, cuz right now its at lv3 and Im short 100 CPU
If you dont heed any warnings from these fellows above me, at least buy a True Sansha adaptive nano (17.5%) and save your self 50 cpu. (1pg 0 cpu)
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Mihae
Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.16 20:26:00 -
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Before posting a setup read up a bit first, oh and where do you usually hang out?
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PeoplePerson
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Posted - 2006.12.16 20:39:00 -
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Ship Scanner ftl, you don't need it to know what a person is using. A simple look at will do to determine min/max range and amount of NOS and I guess whichever FC you're flying with does not have his gang members do resistance sitreps.
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.16 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Mihae Before posting a setup read up a bit first, oh and where do you usually hang out?
haha. Domain/Providence/Catch/The Forge/The Citadel/Geminate
Im ALLL over the place. :P and if you do find me, I'll probably be in my Jaguar, cuz my Pilgrim right now is being used for Macro harassment, since she's only gonna be flying out into low sec with a Recon gang
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Kery Syander
Minmatar Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2006.12.16 21:09:00 -
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Quite frankly this setup is terrible. Don't fit a cap recharger on a Amarr recon. Use your nos/neuts for what they are made for. To totally pwn his cap and make his tank not work. (If you're going to use a cap recharger on a ship like this, at least spring for a cap recharger II)
Your high slots are fine, but your mids and lows make me want to cry. Get rid of the ship scanner... please. It won't do anything for you. Put in another TD II to help with turrent boats. Hell, put a multispec or sensor damp in there... but a ship scanner won't help you at all. My mids would look something like this: 3x tracking disruptor II 1x 2pt warp scrambler 1x 90% webber For your lows, I would want to start with a MAR II and not bother putting a 200mm plate on a cruiser.
Your tactics are laughable. I would not stick around long if I saw a pilgrim checking me out. Just engage any turret-boat you can get your hands on.
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.16 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: DarknessInc on 16/12/2006 21:57:58
Originally by: Kery Syander Quite frankly this setup is terrible. Don't fit a cap recharger on a Amarr recon. Use your nos/neuts for what they are made for. To totally pwn his cap and make his tank not work. (If you're going to use a cap recharger on a ship like this, at least spring for a cap recharger II)
Your high slots are fine, but your mids and lows make me want to cry. Get rid of the ship scanner... please. It won't do anything for you. Put in another TD II to help with turrent boats. Hell, put a multispec or sensor damp in there... but a ship scanner won't help you at all. My mids would look something like this: 3x tracking disruptor II 1x 2pt warp scrambler 1x 90% webber For your lows, I would want to start with a MAR II and not bother putting a 200mm plate on a cruiser.
Your tactics are laughable. I would not stick around long if I saw a pilgrim checking me out. Just engage any turret-boat you can get your hands on.
okies. I trust you since your Sanguine, and <.< I <3 you guys hahahaha Except I'd rather stay OUT of Cruiser NOS range and Webifier range, which is why I bought my facton NOSes, because their Drain value is the same as Diminishing but their range is better
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PeoplePerson
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Posted - 2006.12.16 22:00:00 -
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Since you're selling freighters I guess you're rich enough to blow ISK on being stupid
But if not go fly Arbitrators for a couple of months
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Kery Syander
Minmatar Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2006.12.16 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc Edited by: DarknessInc on 16/12/2006 21:57:58
Originally by: Kery Syander Quite frankly this setup is terrible. Don't fit a cap recharger on a Amarr recon. Use your nos/neuts for what they are made for. To totally pwn his cap and make his tank not work. (If you're going to use a cap recharger on a ship like this, at least spring for a cap recharger II)
Your high slots are fine, but your mids and lows make me want to cry. Get rid of the ship scanner... please. It won't do anything for you. Put in another TD II to help with turrent boats. Hell, put a multispec or sensor damp in there... but a ship scanner won't help you at all. My mids would look something like this: 3x tracking disruptor II 1x 2pt warp scrambler 1x 90% webber For your lows, I would want to start with a MAR II and not bother putting a 200mm plate on a cruiser.
Your tactics are laughable. I would not stick around long if I saw a pilgrim checking me out. Just engage any turret-boat you can get your hands on.
okies. I trust you since your Sanguine, and <.< I <3 you guys hahahaha Except I'd rather stay OUT of Cruiser NOS range and Webifier range, which is why I bought my facton NOSes, because their Drain value is the same as Diminishing but their range is better
Personally, my strategy would be to stay in nos range. You are going to wtfpwn their cap really, except for nos boats like vexors, domis, and myrms. Ginaz had a really good video about crusing around in a Pilgrim a while back, and his setup looked pretty good (although it was before the ECM 'nerf'). I would recommend watching it a couple hundred times... plus it's a good vid (dunno where the vid is, perhaps eve-search can help).
I would say that your strategy sounds much more like what you'd want to do in a curse... I'd much rather uncloak in web range, web them, and see if they can hit you. If you can get an 800mm plate on there and a hardner or 2, I would think that you'd be able to tank fairly well, even if they can hit you.
I think you'll be killing cruisers very quickly, because they are not going to have any sort of active tank running within 2-3 nos cycles. You don't have that much range to play with, so I would just forget about trying to monkey around in a 1-2km range and just let them try to nos you back. Anything other than a Vexor in the cruiser class will not be able to out-nos you.
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Zyrtan Keb'Lektar
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.16 22:16:00 -
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Here's a useful setup:
Highs: 3x medium nos, 1x cov ops cloak Mids: 7.5k Scramble, web, TD, 2x multispec Lows: MAR T2, named MAR, 800mm, hardeners
fits well, atleast with recon 5
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.16 22:20:00 -
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I just bought a faction Med Rep and a few TS ENMs. So I'll update the OP with my new setup soon
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Zyrtan Keb'Lektar
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.16 22:28:00 -
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You dont have to use faction mods on a pilgrim...
stay with tech2 and keep practising...
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.16 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zyrtan Keb'Lektar You dont have to use faction mods on a pilgrim...
stay with tech2 and keep practising...
eh Ive already bought everything. its not planned out. its what is CURRENTLY fitted on her
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.17 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Drego Edited by: Colonel Drego on 17/12/2006 00:31:22
DREGOOOOOOOOOOOOOO <3
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