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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:01:00 -
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way to make yourselves look incredibly competent again once again ratel.
wtb nidhogger or naglfar
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Gurney Halleck
Caldari Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:07:00 -
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I have just become aware that members of my alliance and corporation have been accused of *cough* appropriating a few capital assets that were left unattended at a POS. This is a very serious allegation and I trust you will offer fraps or other proof indicating that your allegation is valid and not slanderous. Why I know the participants that stand accused personally. And I can vouch for thier character. Likewise, not everyone that has or is associated with Anarchy Empire [RIOT], or Celtic Anarchy [KOS] deserve being painted by these generalized broadbrushed inflammatory statements of yours. Why we wouldn't even DREAM of it....let alone ACTUALLY PULL IT OFF. Why, that's just shocking.
You'll be served with an action of "show cause" if these baseless accusations continue. And we will persue this matter to its legal limits to protect the good names of my shipmates. In fact, I would suggest that leaving capital assets unattended in a POS is inticing a good man to do bad things. And this close to Christmas. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 19/12/2006 20:17:23 Most celts are good fellows. DOnt brand the many for the sins of the few. and, maybe it was warranted? or maybe not. No idea. bawk
-ex celt-
edit: wee fannies:-d
Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Kanae
Minmatar Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:28:00 -
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blah blah blah
Oh we're cool oh your silly for letting it happen...
You sit around talking people hoping to get someone to trust someone in this game so you can take advantage of some mechanics in the game.
You all can spout crap about well im just playing the game or spout some bs about how cool this guy was for duping someone .... but in the end your the people the majority of us would like to never talk to in and out of game.
Just informing everyone that doing business with anyone with your corp ticker in their history would be a bad idea.
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Crax McGee
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:30:00 -
[35]
would u like a cookie?
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MIGHTYDWC
Gallente Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:30:00 -
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Good to see Gurney still there with the no bull**** attitude. As for what Fowl said: /signed
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 19/12/2006 20:17:23 Most celts are good fellows. DOnt brand the many for the sins of the few. and, maybe it was warranted? or maybe not. No idea. bawk
-ex celt-
edit: wee fannies:-d
It's like one alliance crying and moaning about another alliance in whole logs off from pods/bubbles to save themselves just because a handful do it. Don't judge me for my past, because it's only made me stronger.
edit: as Eze would say "Le Fannies" /me wonders if Kab still sings the grannie song as good as he used to
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MIGHTYDWC
Gallente Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kanae blah blah blah
Oh we're cool oh your silly for letting it happen...
You sit around talking people hoping to get someone to trust someone in this game so you can take advantage of some mechanics in the game.
You all can spout crap about well im just playing the game or spout some bs about how cool this guy was for duping someone .... but in the end your the people the majority of us would like to never talk to in and out of game.
Just informing everyone that doing business with anyone with your corp ticker in their history would be a bad idea.
I can't remember which member of BOB said this, but, didn't you read the back of the box before you paid your first months sub fee? It's a game, things like this are allowed, some things aren't, read the EULA for those. Deal with it, learn from it, move on.
Molle made a post a while back stating he wanted to dance on ASCN corpses. After listen to him speak about game play and styles of gameplay with the main guy from LV durng BE's extended downtime TS, can't remeber his name, here's my take on characters playstyle in game.
Hypothetically, If Molle and I lived side by side in RL. Been best buds for ever. Our kids play together, go to school together. Our wifes go shopping together, talk bad about us behind out backs. At the end of the day when all is said and done, and we log into our computers, and his intention as his character in game is to pound me to dust and dance on my charater's corpse, then so be it. Everyone pays to play this game. Everyone plays this game how they want.
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Crellion
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 19/12/2006 21:32:56 I thank you Ratel guys for warning eve in general and me in particular...
Now the next time the little buggers tell me they dont have more capital ships to contribute when there is a capital alliance assembly I ll know to spank them hard...
(so thats what the alliance mail for minnie capital pilots was all about eh? )
Umm did I say I morally dissaprove of what they did? Yessir! Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |

Bermag
Point-Zero Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 19/12/2006 20:17:23 Most celts are good fellows. DOnt brand the many for the sins of the few. and, maybe it was warranted? or maybe not. No idea. bawk
That is probably true. I really hope they are better than how they look like in this thread. 
Personally I think this theft was not a result of a grand master plan planned by K.O.S/Anarcy Empire. It was probably just a gready individual, Xabier who betrayed the trust of his corp/alliance mates and took an opportunity when he saw it and got some help from his old buddies.
This is probably just a simple corp theft. No matter the circumstances (and yes it is stupid to leave expensive ships hanging in a POS; however one of the guys who lost a carrier was stuck in game for two hours while this happened) corp thieves is worst scums in eve universe. I guess that Xabier guy either need to find a corp with only thieves like himself or stay in NPC corps
It is one thing to infiltrate a enemy corp/alliance to wreck havoc, but AFAIK we don't have any conflicts with Anarchy Empire/K.O.S other than the usual pew-pew in 0.0. So I don't think Ratel is really a war target for them.
Another thing is some stupidity of game mechanics, like being able to bump a capital ship out of a force field using small ships. Not to mention the small size of SMA (at least if you have multiple capital ships to store).
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Crellion
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Bermag
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 19/12/2006 20:17:23 Most celts are good fellows. DOnt brand the many for the sins of the few. and, maybe it was warranted? or maybe not. No idea. bawk
That is probably true. I really hope they are better than how they look like in this thread. 
Personally I think this theft was not a result of a grand master plan planned by K.O.S/Anarcy Empire. It was probably just a gready individual, Xabier who betrayed the trust of his corp/alliance mates and took an opportunity when he saw it and got some help from his old buddies.
This is probably just a simple corp theft. No matter the circumstances (and yes it is stupid to leave expensive ships hanging in a POS; however one of the guys who lost a carrier was stuck in game for two hours while this happened) corp thieves is worst scums in eve universe. I guess that Xabier guy either need to find a corp with only thieves like himself or stay in NPC corps
It is one thing to infiltrate a enemy corp/alliance to wreck havoc, but AFAIK we don't have any conflicts with Anarchy Empire/K.O.S other than the usual pew-pew in 0.0. So I don't think Ratel is really a war target for them.
Another thing is some stupidity of game mechanics, like being able to bump a capital ship out of a force field using small ships. Not to mention the small size of SMA (at least if you have multiple capital ships to store).
Perhaps time for revenge? Just a thought. Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |

Khavi Vetali
Gallente Team Americas Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.19 22:42:00 -
[41]
This thread delivers! Ö
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NiteOwl
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Posted - 2006.12.19 23:56:00 -
[42]
BAWK!?!?! Damn chickens! Get it right! Its
HOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!
BTW, dont make him mad, or he will WTF BAWK yer arse! 
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JaegerX
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.20 00:08:00 -
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Dear Kanae
Please file a detailed report to the Warren Commission, which is headed by Earl Warren. I refer you to the commission since it has been formed for the sole purpose of invesrtigating crimes committed by Celtic Anarchy pilots. The comission is fully independant and bypartisan.
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Kanae
Minmatar Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.20 00:13:00 -
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Edited by: Kanae on 20/12/2006 00:23:52
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 19/12/2006 20:17:23 Most celts are good fellows. DOnt brand the many for the sins of the few. and, maybe it was warranted? or maybe not. No idea. bawk
-ex celt-
edit: wee fannies:-d
Well I'm afraid your wrong here. This person befriended someone just to perform a corp theft with no issues between the Alliances. Due to circumstances he got lucky but all of his alliance supports corp theft as a way to play eve. Nothing to do with being at war just theft.
Just making sure everyone is aware of this .... They are corp thieves not for spies and war just plain simple corp thieves (none of them will deny this fact)
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Crellion
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.20 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 20/12/2006 00:28:11
Originally by: Kanae
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 19/12/2006 20:17:23 Most celts are good fellows. DOnt brand the many for the sins of the few. and, maybe it was warranted? or maybe not. No idea. bawk
-ex celt-
edit: wee fannies:-d
Well I'm afraid your wrong here. This person befriended someone just to perform a corp theft with no issues between the Alliances. Due to circumstances he got lucky but all of his alliance supports corp theft as a way to play eve. Nothing to do with being at war just theft.
Just making sure everyone is aware of this .... (none of them will deny this fact)
Okay let me make a serious post here:
You and your corp are part of the nap fanfest of eve. Cool. Your choice. Our alliance is not napped. We dont have allies. We have friends, good friends, which is usually the people we enjoyed and enjoy fighting against.
You follow this far? Good. Now. Whats the code of conduct for the majoirity of Anarcy empire:
1) Dont break the EULA 2) Dont use bugs and cheats. 3) Refrain from smacking in local as much as possible. If impossible try to make it friendly and playfull.
Thats it rly...
KOS in particular are more the Rangers and Vagabonds of our alliance and they get to all sorts of weird trouble all over the EvE map.
However despite my corp being more ... ethics oriented in pvp than the average eve corp I will tell you that I feel what they did (if it was getting a silly peson in your corp to give them access to a POS from where they stole capital ships) was fine by me and I told feel in the slightest ashamed because of this.
Our aim as an alliance is to cause anarchy and isk-loss related pain all over the eve universe if at all possible. I think most probably very few alliance members feel bad about the events you posted here (if I understand them correctly) and I would advise you to kill this thread now as it makes you look bad and not KOS or RIOT (Anarchy Empire)...
If you feel what they did was terrible in your book get revenge in game rather than bringing them indirect glorification in the forums...
Sheesh
EDIT: Oh and you said: "they use corp theft". Think again, your member is the corp thief. They are not members of your corp genious... so dont go call people names or you might find an entire alliance in your doorstep... there are more conventional ways of causing isk loss than bumping stuff out of a POS shield you know... Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |

Nulvak CEO
Caldari The Warcry Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.20 00:32:00 -
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you go Zeetocht 
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Matuk Grymwal
PAX Interstellar Services Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.20 01:24:00 -
[47]
Cheeky little rascals...they get in the darndest scrapes & mischief.
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Trak Cranker
Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.20 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: MIGHTYDWC
I can't remember which member of BOB said this, but, didn't you read the back of the box before you paid your first months sub fee? It's a game, things like this are allowed, some things aren't, read the EULA for those. Deal with it, learn from it, move on.
I don't think we said anywhere that we thought the actions were not allowed? Or that we feel they cheated in the exploiting sense of the word, somehow? Or that they should not be allowed their own choice of gameplay?
But as well as its an option in the game to perform and contribute to corp theft, its also an option, and in our eyes, an obligation, to warn the rest of the players against characters performing same as we consider it vile and detestable. (All in game, based on ingame actions. I think I understand Molle better than you do, honestly.)
I do not want to deny the players the option of doing so (would I like some better built in obstructions? Perhaps..), but I will try and obstruct it if possible.
We have dealt with it and moved on and whatever other pocket philosophies you want to throw at it. This thread was not for us. If so we definately had kept our mouths shut.
And as far as doing PR for these guys goes, I could care less if there is the odd chance it can prevent someone else from being victim to the same.
Because thats how _we_ want to play the game.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.20 06:24:00 -
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Sounds to me like I'd rather not have former Feral Tendency members in my corp. Leaving your toys laying around is never a good idea.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One."
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EwokPoacher
Nubs. Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.20 07:00:00 -
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I want to make something clear.....
RIOT mainly consists of dare I say it...pirate corps. Do the math. You don't always have to ransom a ship to get it's booty. Slapping a new liscence plate on it will do us just fine.
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ChaosHybrid
Caldari ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 19/12/2006 20:17:23 Most celts are good fellows. DOnt brand the many for the sins of the few. and, maybe it was warranted? or maybe not. No idea. bawk
-ex celt-
edit: wee fannies:-d
QFT
-ex celt-
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AlvynNevins
Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.20 13:35:00 -
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Although corp or alliancetheft is a valid "tactic" it's extremely lame to do that imo. It happens here and there and sometimes it can hit every corp.
I prefer tactics which involve "pew-pew" , never smack and always try to fight the honest way. I am absolutely sure that most of the people in our alliance do that too.
We lost a few ships to this theft, we have been angry for a day, replaced the ships and now life goes on.
Ps.: I think generalization (1 smacker = whole alliance smacks and 1 thief = whole alliance full of thiefs) is in most cases not correct 
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Kanae
Minmatar Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.20 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: ChaosHybrid
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 19/12/2006 20:17:23 Most celts are good fellows. DOnt brand the many for the sins of the few. and, maybe it was warranted? or maybe not. No idea. bawk
-ex celt-
edit: wee fannies:-d
QFT -ex celt-
Does this mean your an ex-member that hasn't stabbed your new dupes yet or you friends (aka a dupe) they havn't stabbed in the back? please clarify....
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Zzazzt
Gallente Millennium
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Posted - 2006.12.20 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Zzazzt on 20/12/2006 14:26:51 Sounds like someone felt the manlove  ____________________________________________
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patteSatan
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.20 14:30:00 -
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Manlove.....
Mmmmmmmmm

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Grissem
Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.20 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 19/12/2006 20:17:23 Most celts are good fellows. DOnt brand the many for the sins of the few. and, maybe it was warranted? or maybe not. No idea. bawk
-ex celt-
edit: wee fannies:-d
Signed - we've had a couple of ex celts in ROA and they were great lads. I don't think it's fair to say all are members are ebil like this just because of the actions of a couple of individuals. --------- ROA till i die.......or they find someone better |

Mito Rilo
Caldari The Rat Pack
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Posted - 2006.12.20 15:13:00 -
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Hey ZJ, tell your guys well done and give them a beer each from me  ----------------------------------------------
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Zubenelgenubi
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.20 19:54:00 -
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I cant find much sympathy, sorry  Sig removed. Please keep sigs to 400x120 pixels and 24000 bytes in size or less. -Kaemonn ([email protected]) |

Tolgar
Caldari Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.20 20:00:00 -
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wish those carriers were at the ratel pos we blew up the other night that woulda been a pretty sweet haul  ------------- Corp Baker, official c3P0
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Kaar
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.20 20:05:00 -
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Like I said while xabier was bumping them:
"We're like some evil reverse Santa"
Merry Christmas Ratel 
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