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Croglett
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:42:00 -
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The before 'fun' ships I used to fly in gangs, that cost no more than 20M around 8 months ago, now would cost me hmm lets see, for say my usual gang/fleet caracal;
Caracal (All based on cheapest market price in the forge);
5 X Heavy Missile Launcher II - 70M (14M each)
1 X Large Shield Extender II - 5.5M
2 X Sensor Booster II - 3.4M
2 X Invulnerability Field (Best Named - t2 back then was around 6M) - 1.2M (600K each)
1 X Ballistic Control System I - 60K
1 X Signal Amplifier II - 600k
Total : 85.96M (Including Caracal/ No Insurance)
Other prices I am here to mention (t2 Sellers gone too far);
250MM Railguns II - 4.25M
1400MM Howitzer Artillery II - 14.4M
425MM Railgun II - 15.5M
220mm Vulcan Autocannon II - 8M
425MM Autocannon II - 3.8M
Heavy Pulse Laser II - 3.75M
Invulnerability Field II - 22M
Power Diagnostic System II - 6.5M
Cruise Missile Launcher II - 13M
Siege Missile Launcher II - 11M
1MN MicroWarpDrive II - 7.8M
Ok I am not going to continue now, a few people that trained for t2 heavy missiles has said it was a waste of time as do I, it as a waste of time training for large t2 rails, it was a waste of time training up intercepters to lvl 5, it was a waste of time training for most of the weapons I trained for, I just dont use em.
There needs to be a lot more t2 BPOs, invention needs to be easier.
To actually PVP in this game anymore, you need an isk making alt, which I am not paying for another character when I dont play the game that much.
Fix is please CCP.
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:47:00 -
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Well, you see, the reason prices are so high is becSQUAUK SQUAUK SQUAUK SQUAUK SQUAUK SQUAUK SQUAUK
don't care cry more
 Originally by: Khavi Vetali
Oh don't worry, the goons are just as suicidal with their battleships as they are with their frigates.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
STK Scientific
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:48:00 -
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Give time for the new T2 BPOs to be fully seeded and find their way into the right hands.
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Wow, CCP make a change that eliminates whines and there are whines about the lack of whines.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:49:00 -
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You're using the wrong weapons.
Tachyon IIs are very reasonably priced at 8.5m each.
Yay for lasers.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
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Atius Tirawa
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:52:00 -
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seed T2 BPOs like any other BPO and the problem will be solved - or - at least the problem of pricce will come down to how much minerals and moon stuff costs.
But I think people just don't trust that CCP will fix this issue. So ya. . .
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Croglett
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:56:00 -
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They are reseeding them yes, but the t2 sellers are not stupid, the prices are so high, they can be competitive and still get a massive profit.
And I do use tachyon II some times, but I like artillery better.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan
Give time for the new T2 BPOs to be fully seeded and find their way into the right hands.
BPOs will never make their way into the right hands as long as they are so valuable that they are bought out for more money then they can earn in a year.
When it really comes down to it tech 2 prices won't normalize till Tech 2 BPOs are relatively common...
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Nicocat
Caldari
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:00:00 -
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Don't use so much T2 crap?
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Originally by: Splagada
SEED ME DADDY
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:07:00 -
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If you think the price is not worth it, don't buy.
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The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing.
by Sharkbait | 2006.09.20 |
Croglett
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Croglett on 19/12/2006 21:13:59
Originally by: Tachy
If you think the price is not worth it, don't buy.
Then I die to people with alts tbh.
Anyway your comment; if i took it literally, it would mean I would buy no t2 equipment at all.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:20:00 -
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I do not buy certain T2 modules and ships because I don't think the current price mirrors the efficiency.
Most of the items you listed as overpriced are still quite a bit below the 'old' price for the best standard named modules like 'arbalest' launchers.
Arba Siege used to be worth 30+mio each until T2 siege launchers became available.
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The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing.
by Sharkbait | 2006.09.20 |
Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:28:00 -
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Those prices begin to look a whole lot more reasonable if you save those modules for T2 ships. What is the point of using Heavy Missile Launcher II on a Caracal? You will die just as easily as if you had fitted XR-3200, because the extra boost in module stats will not change the fact that you are fitting them to a Caracal.
Remember that a weapon system is only as powerful as its weakest element, and you will never obtain an increase in effectiveness proportional to the increase in price if you gimp the whole system with one module (or the ship itself).
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Princess Nexxala
Gallente
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:29:00 -
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pah, T2 prices do take the ****.
i just came bk to empire from 0.0 and the last time i bought t2 armor hardeners they were half the price they are now.
thermics are up to like 15mill +
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DiuxDium
Casting Shadows
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:31:00 -
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T2 should be expensive. I'd like to see T2 items costing much MUCH more to produce though. As the current prices don't reflect a nessecary profit margin as in T1 items, but a 'greed' margin. Increases the price to produce, and T2 bpo owners won't cause so much inflation, as alot of the isk in T2 will go down the drain.
There's a finite amount of money people are willing to pay for things, the current prices show the top end people are willing.
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Christopher Dalran
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 19/12/2006 21:49:58
And you could get mad at all those people who had every family member buy a ps3 and then re-sell it on ebay for $1000, its just simply going to do no good.
Everyone is a greedy money grubbing bastard (including me and you) and the annoyminity provided by the internet just serves to compound this tendancy so expect anything people "need" for pvp to be redicously expensive.
Join a corp and work together to get needed t2 bpo's as thats the only way to get them for reasonable prices (people dont tend to be greedy and rip off the people they have to deal with on a daily basis).
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HankMurphy
Pelennor Swarm
Eternal Rangers of Terror
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:56:00 -
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HankMurphy's Official No-nonsense stfu T2 bpo thread reply: Automated Message 14:
BPC lotteries not BPO. More lotteries more often.
End the Money printing machines (bpos themselves), outrageous price gouging and cornered markets all in one swift EASY change.
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Arian Snow
Minmatar
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.19 23:02:00 -
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Edited by: Arian Snow on 19/12/2006 23:02:49
yeah ... Some T2 prices are madness!
I dont remember I dont recall I dont have memory of anything at all! |
Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.19 23:09:00 -
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CCP does not set market prices. Players do. Stop paying the price, and the price will come down.
you dont need to use t2 you know...its only a small percentage difference with the same t1 ammo.
Originally by: Tuxford
Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us 
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Helen
STK Scientific
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.19 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan
Give time for the new T2 BPOs to be fully seeded and find their way into the right hands.
Yes our hands.
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Dammar
Ephorate
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Posted - 2006.12.19 23:27:00 -
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It's true. Greed is getting quite out of control. Anyone who says otherwise needs a beating IRL.
Advice to CCP: Keep seeding bpos.
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Katane Usamo
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.12.19 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Katane Usamo on 19/12/2006 23:28:30
Simply put, train another race. Caldari are overused by mission runners, so everything they use (t2 launchers, invuln fields, bcus) is ridiculously expensive. As another example, T2 Medium blasters range around 1-2m, so you can get a good setup for a Thorax for around 10m.
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PathetiQ
Gallente
The Rat Pack
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Posted - 2006.12.20 00:17:00 -
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dont know why you cry, every T1 ship/module are going up most of all t2 ship/module are going down... comeon!
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Kur'Dekaija
Solidline Enterprise
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2006.12.20 00:26:00 -
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whine whine whine.. why do ppl keep whining when making isk is REALY EASY?!?!?! I mean ***** missions without risk for few weeks.. boom few billion isk
IMO its all the mission runners foult :P they are providing to much isk into the game
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Dread Phantom
Caldari
Project-Chaos
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Posted - 2006.12.20 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dammar
It's true. Greed is getting quite out of control. Anyone who says otherwise needs a beating IRL.
Advice to CCP: Keep seeding bpos.
Think before you post
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Father Weebles
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.20 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn
CCP does not set market prices. Players do. Stop paying the price, and the price will come down.
you dont need to use t2 you know...its only a small percentage difference with the same t1 ammo.
bull****
i could use all tech1 stuff yet all tech2 equipment keeps rising...its useless
"Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control." |
Hallee
Amarr
The Merch
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Posted - 2006.12.20 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: HankMurphy
HankMurphy's Official No-nonsense stfu T2 bpo thread reply: Automated Message 14:
BPC lotteries not BPO. More lotteries more often.
End the Money printing machines (bpos themselves), outrageous price gouging and cornered markets all in one swift EASY change.
That is really not such a bad idea. Though my beef with the lottery is not the grossly inflated prices that result from it (monopolies are bad, even in a pretend economy). Really it's just about new/newer players who want to follow the industrial path. They just don't have much to look forward to save joining a corp that already has T2 BPO's (in which case, said corp probably also already has people to run the production).
A combat pilot is never cut off from flying something they want, they just need to raise the isk and train the skills. Once all the T2 BPO's are seeded, future industrialists and researchers have nothing but the meager tech 1 market to play with. And really, nobody who has won a BPO lottery actually earned what they recieved, they just got lucky.
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Toshiro Khan
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.20 01:15:00 -
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TBH .. All T2 BPOs that have been out for more then say 2 years should be made avilible from the market.
After all two years is enough to make a fair bit of cutter from them.
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Dammar
Ephorate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dread Phantom
Originally by: Dammar
It's true. Greed is getting quite out of control. Anyone who says otherwise needs a beating IRL.
Advice to CCP: Keep seeding bpos.
Think before you post
I got better advice for you: don't ever post again.
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Areconus
Caldari
Cereal Killerz
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Posted - 2006.12.20 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Well, you see, the reason prices are so high is becSQUAUK SQUAUK SQUAUK SQUAUK SQUAUK SQUAUK SQUAUK
don't care cry more
And here we have a fine example of the typical goon response.
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Kehmor
Caldari
PAK
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.20 01:48:00 -
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I think ferraris should be reduced in price too so that everyone can drive one. I mean getting my driving liscence was so pointless because I can't afford one.
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