Also how does one "rebalance" a ship that supposedly has never been in game?

The original Gold Magnate was in the game. Then it got blowed up.

According to the person I replied to the one being detailed in the blog is not and has not been in game.

Hence the question.

Right, that would be the new one with the new stats.

I got it from the part where they said the attributes have been changed.

These have been rebalanced. They are not the same whined-about-Cee-U-Next-Tuesday ships that are causing so much butthurt. They are different ships with different attributes and similar names. Extremely similar names.

Does seem pretty unfair to anyone who has spent 100+ bil (2 tril in in some cases) on a limited issue ship if CCP is just going to change their minds and release more on a whim.

O no.. it might be unfair to some one... in eve... I hope they some day crash the unique's market as the tears will be glorious.
I am sorry but i don't have any empathy for the trillionaires of eve.

Who cares what the entitled trillionaires of EvE think, they're huge reasons the game sucks.

O no.. it might be unfair to some one... in eve... I hope they some day crash the unique's market as the tears will be glorious.
I am sorry but i don't have any empathy for the trillionaires of eve.

Same to you. Why are we a huge reason the game sucks? What have i done to make this game worse other than play it and make successfully make isk?

What has Chribba done to make this game suck? Or Entity? Or Bluemelon?

Please tell me.

If anything it shows that we actually play the game and have a love for the game.

But yea, we are rich so screw us over?

Why is putting more in the system screwing you over?
If someone buys a Gǣlimited issue specialGǥ You paid what you deemed to be a reasonable price at the time to own that shipGǪ well sometimes the cost of things goes down as well as up. Yer so what you paid 200bill for something.. if someone can get it for 150 now it does not make yours worth 50 less unless the only resign you got it in the first place was to make money off it. You still get the use of the thing for as long as you like (which is forever as no one ever uses them)

I use AT ships all the time thanks. I wouild of used the silver magnate if it was actually any good as well.

The silver magnate was the rarest ship i could collect except the several trillion isk BS. I spent thousands of hours getting the isk together to get this ship, it was the pinnacle of my collection. One side of this game that i enjoy is collecting rare ships. That ship is no longer rare, i feel like i have wasted my time and could of just waited and bought one for 20b. How is that not screwing me over? There are 6 silver magnates i know about now. Which is being increasing to 98. Thats over 16 times as many of this 'rare' ship being added to the game.

How would all the titan owners like it if CCP decided to hand out 16,000-32,000 Titans to people for entering a tournament? Its the same thing in terms of devaluing their ship, on a lesser scale as it only screws over a few people this time. Which you are all happy about because you all hate the rich trillionaires for some unknown reason.

I can tell you for a fact i will no longer be investing into any rare ships anymore as i will never know if CCP will just add more into the game whenever they feel like it. I can predict market trends, i cant predict random storyline events giving out prizes.

Yes, it does make my silver magnate worth less. I will no longer be able to undock knowing that i cant replace the ship, if it dies ill just shrug and think well i can just replace that for 20b. So its value is 20b.

Pritty much this.

You could say the same thing as the people that got RevenantGÇÖs early on.. There now worth less than 1/3 what some of the early people paid for them. Does that devalue their time with them? Or is that the cost of having something GÇ£limitedGÇ¥ and been able to say GÇ£I was the first to get a killmail with oneGÇ¥ GÇ£I was the first to use them in a fleetGÇ¥ GÇ£I was the first to lose oneGÇ¥ GÇ£I have the oldest oneGÇ¥
If my titan suddenly cost half as much and thereGÇÖs 10x more of them than when I got it (there is more than 10x more of them now than when I got it) I would not be like o no I just lost X amount I would be like well I have had the use of X for Y years and I have had fun with it nbd.

That is fine... as there will be many more to take your place now the price will come down (prob not that much) to be an achievable goal for people just like it was for you. .

Good for you, And maybe people will maybe use the new silver magnate's as they will not be stuck with 2003 stats anymore. you can thank CCP for making your useless ship useful again.

Traders risk losing huge amounts of isk all the time if CCP change the game in any way, why should they take special care for your investment?

That isn't an argument we should be having, preserve the history of eve ships!

For some the problem is the isk, for the rest the issue is the history. There is no need to soil the history of these ships, the biggest strength of eve is that when its gone, its gone. If something is released on the pretense that that they are a unique collection, they they should stay that way. Players can remember them being destroyed (or returned to the state), they can aspire to own a piece of that history, some would even go balls to the wall and pvp with these ships. It doesn't matter so long as the history of the ships is written and preserved.

The cost of man hours to skin a different Amarrian frigate vs the loss of eve history and the disregard of the core principle of once its gone its gone .......

That isn't an argument we should be having, preserve the history of eve ships!

There are 6 silver magnates i know about now. Which is being increasing to 98. Thats over 16 times as many of this 'rare' ship being added to the game.

's actually 20 more silvers 4 more golds

it's not even a good prize
last time it was 3 silver 1 gold 4 impocs for winning team, 4 silvers + imparma per losing team

but hey might as well make the prizes crappy when you're already violating your guarantees, being lazy and unoriginal
( somehow I doubt this is what Seagull had in mind )

It was worth the price you paid for it or you wouldn't have bought it.

Collectors tend to pay more for art when the artist is dead as there are no more pieces made. We were told there would be no more of these ships. So their value went up accordingly. If i was an art collector, Id be pretty pissed if i had a Van Gough and he came back from the dead to paint another 20 paintings.

Youd be pissed if Van Gogh came back from the dead?

Id be many things at such an occurance, but "pissed" would probably not be among them.

Furthermore, as a collector of his fine art, surely you would be overjoyed that he has ressurected and can now produce more of the artbwhich you so enjoy?

Oh wait. You mean as an INVESTMENT. Aaah, ok.