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CCP Shadowcat
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.29 10:11:20 -
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Vanguard has been successfully deployed on September 29 during an regular downtime.
Vanguard delivers a new set of changes on sovereignty capture mechanics, the highly anticipated Multi-Buy option, new graphical timers, battlecruiser rebalancing, enhanced visuals for stations and ships and much more. The full details of all changes and improvements are available in the Vanguard patch notes.
Please post general feedback and discussions in this thread.
Report issues with the release on the PC in the Vanguard issues thread. For Mac users, there is, as always, a thread on the Macintosh forums for discussion of this release here.
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@CCP_Shadowcat
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Rekt Zero
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.09.29 11:50:21 -
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It's nice that I can finally see my own icon when zoomed out, makes life that much easier. Stations look like legos. Still no wardec fix. |

Confuzion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.09.29 12:05:32 -
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I still hope to receive word on when the skillpoints for new characters that were made recently will be booked on the accounts.
@CCP_Shadowcat: Fix your signature ;) "Sernior German Linguistic Owner" |

Ace Lapointe
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.09.29 12:14:57 -
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Awesome job guys thanks for the hard work and sleepless nights! :D
Fly safe! |

probag Bear
Xiong Offices
85
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Posted - 2015.09.29 12:34:42 -
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Thank you so extremely much to CCP karkur and her team for multi-buy. The "number of orders" box was a pleasant surprise to see, as it got rid of the only complaint I had about multi-buy. All-together, this new feature is an immense quality-of-life improvement for me, and will halve the daily time I spend wrangling with the Eve interface, instead of playing. |

val dor
Core Industry. Circle-Of-Two
0
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Posted - 2015.09.29 12:38:19 -
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more skins again, still more expensive price for plex
what evolution on the number of active players ? |

Luko Melis
Black Omega Security The OSS
3
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Posted - 2015.09.29 12:43:54 -
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Umm, where is the Multibuy option? |

Fornost Fornostsen
The Scope Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2015.09.29 13:21:22 -
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Luko Melis wrote:Umm, where is the Multibuy option?
I can't find it    |

Red Deck
The Tebo Corp
71
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Posted - 2015.09.29 13:28:41 -
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Yay, a visible/graphical jump-cloak timer! 
Is there a graphical station undock timer in the works, too? |

Steijn
Quay Industries
1008
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Posted - 2015.09.29 13:30:15 -
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Fornost Fornostsen wrote:Luko Melis wrote:Umm, where is the Multibuy option? I can't find it   
theyve turned it off. |
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1764
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Posted - 2015.09.29 13:43:46 -
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The jump cloak timer is amazing! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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Anomilk Dairlylover
Lazerhawks
9
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Posted - 2015.09.29 14:02:09 -
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Wormhole polarisation timer is cool, but the way it makes the same sound as a mobile depot launcher is pretty confusing. |

Razvan Stefan
World Industries Science and Research
3
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Posted - 2015.09.29 14:10:56 -
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Steijn wrote:Fornost Fornostsen wrote:Luko Melis wrote:Umm, where is the Multibuy option? I can't find it    theyve turned it off.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/multibuy-has-been-disabled/ |

Beta Maoye
79
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Posted - 2015.09.29 14:14:01 -
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I like the jump cloak timer. Looks cool and useful.
It would be great if a visual display for the station undock invulnerability timer can be added as well. |

Kato's Pete
Quam Singulari Triumvirate.
6
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Posted - 2015.09.29 14:22:15 -
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Ummm so both legion and loki are bugged.........
http://imgur.com/B0awy1I |

Kopaka Newton
Sanctuary of Shadows Triumvirate.
5
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Posted - 2015.09.29 14:31:33 -
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The self-ship bracket needs to be a different color, or at least show corp/ alliance/ fleet status. Right now when I'm zoomed out I see a neutral ship on grid with me and I freak out since local should be blue and overview shows nothing. If it was the blue NPC color but hollow that would work. |

Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S Agony Empire
14
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Posted - 2015.09.29 15:10:55 -
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Kopaka Newton wrote:The self-ship bracket needs to be a different color, or at least show corp/ alliance/ fleet status. Right now when I'm zoomed out I see a neutral ship on grid with me and I freak out since local should be blue and overview shows nothing. If it was the blue NPC color but hollow that would work.
+1
own ship icon should be different colour. blue/green. i zoomed out and thought there was a neut next to me!!
Annexe
ITAI - VIP
"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
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Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S Agony Empire
14
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Posted - 2015.09.29 15:13:10 -
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also...
From the Updates.eveonline page;
"Probe Scanning Map Exploring the universe and discovering the unknown is a huge part of the EVE experience for many intrepid pilots. The scanning window now includes its own instance of the star map, supporting Probe scanning to make scanning for new adventures easier. Of course you're on your own when you get there!"
So.. am I missing something?
Annexe
ITAI - VIP
"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
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Pie Napple
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
46
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Posted - 2015.09.29 15:54:45 -
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Rekt Zero wrote:Still no wardec fix.
I see this mentioned often. I don't often seen the actual fix explained. What is this fix you are talking about? How should they fix wardecs? |

Shilalasar
Dead Sky Inc.
164
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Posted - 2015.09.29 16:20:05 -
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Could the own ship-¦s bracket be coloured? Freaked me out when I looked back at the monitor and saw a shipbracket not in the overview. |
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Uno Testicular
BOVRIL bOREers Mining CO-OP RAZOR Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.09.29 16:31:32 -
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I like that you can see where your ship is zoomed out
But I feel it would be more useful if the icon rotated to show which way your ship is facing when zoomed out, for manual piloting |

Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S Agony Empire
14
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Posted - 2015.09.29 16:33:23 -
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also on the ship brackets.. maybe it could be squared corner brackets similar to bookmarks (also the bookmarks blue could be cool) instead of the actual ships icon.. pretty sure most people will know what kind of ship they are flying themselves?
Annexe
ITAI - VIP
"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
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Khanid Voltar
S.A.S
54
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Posted - 2015.09.29 17:05:16 -
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Thanks for release.
It appears that the the patch has re-introduced the bug whereby skillpoints are shown to 2 decimal places in the totals for each section in the skillsheet.
Eveboard
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Yspyg Ecaps
Haywire. Haywire Collective
0
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Posted - 2015.09.29 17:06:58 -
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wait how do you get the free skill points? |

Storm Aumer
Vega Farscape
0
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Posted - 2015.09.29 17:34:47 -
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Love the incrised cpu on som ships and the role bonus,what i think missing is a smal amount of more cargo space on most ships say 50m3 to 200m3 frigs to bs,i say this thinking on utelise the new deployebals in a more active way-fitting depo/tractor beam deployebal loot gatherer.Feel that cargo hold space on ships have not rely been updated for the juse of those and other neew deployebals.Cheers Good work don on this game update  |

Tak Roniken
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.09.29 17:59:09 -
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I'm also curious about the skill points and don't seem to get answers in the Rookie Help Channel. I started about 5 or 6 days ago and have 234,000 skill points. I read recently-made characters would be getting the extra skill points. If not, can we get that confirmed so I can make a new character instead? Although I really like my current one.. |

Vol Arm'OOO
Bagel and Lox
752
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Posted - 2015.09.29 18:22:18 -
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Icons still suck eggs. Need option to revert to old icons.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
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Darkblad
Hilf Dir selbst in EVE
2308
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Posted - 2015.09.29 18:36:56 -
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Yspyg Ecaps wrote:wait how do you get the free skill points? Characters that got created shortly before Vanguard will receive them soon-ish. CCP Rise mentioned a week (or more) until the get appliedCCP Rise wrote:One note: if you made your character in the last few days you will have less SP than people who created after Vanguard, that's not good! Some time soon after Vanguard (maybe a week or so) we will hand out 300k unallocated SP to all characters created in the two weeks leading up to Vanguard release. Sorry for having to wait a little but we gotchu.
EVE Infolinks GÇó Mining Guide GÇó Missions
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Darkblad
Hilf Dir selbst in EVE
2308
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Posted - 2015.09.29 18:38:04 -
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Annexe wrote:also...
From the Updates.eveonline page;
"Probe Scanning Map Exploring the universe and discovering the unknown is a huge part of the EVE experience for many intrepid pilots. The scanning window now includes its own instance of the star map, supporting Probe scanning to make scanning for new adventures easier. Of course you're on your own when you get there!"
So.. am I missing something? That was not intended to be released with Vanguard (given the current state of that feature) but onfortunately the panel on updates.eveonline.com did'nt get removed in time (it is now). This feature will still be availalbe on TQ for anyone to test but the official introduction will follow. In the meantime, feel free to test it out and provide feedback
(A beta opt-in would've been a better choice, but that's just me)
EVE Infolinks GÇó Mining Guide GÇó Missions
(EN & DE)
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Tak Roniken
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.09.29 18:39:30 -
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Thanks Darkblad for finding that |
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Steve Atreides
Phoenix Interstellar Enterprises
2
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Posted - 2015.09.29 18:44:42 -
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I now have a Jet Black Featureless Loki........and my Lovely Home station gone from a nice deep, dark colour speckled with lights to an overlit gray whcih look sno where near as good.
Just saying...... |

Darkblad
Hilf Dir selbst in EVE
2308
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Posted - 2015.09.29 18:48:10 -
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Steve Atreides wrote:I now have a Jet Black Featureless Loki........and my Lovely Home station gone from a nice deep, dark colour speckled with lights to an overlit gray whcih look sno where near as good.
Just saying...... Clearing your client cache fixes shader issues for Loki and Legion (the T3 Cruisers that now feature PBR textures)
EVE Infolinks GÇó Mining Guide GÇó Missions
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Cephalosa Galactica
Capitol Engineering
8
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Posted - 2015.09.29 19:47:16 -
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ALL THESE CHANGES LATELY ARE REALLY NICE AND ALL THAT...BUT, WHY THE HELL DO I STILL HAVE TO CLICK PAUSE AND THE APPLY ON MY TRAINNG QUEUE EVERY TIME I JUMP CLONES.....AS WE KNOW HALF THE TIME WE JUMP IN SUCH A HURRY FOR COMBAT OR WHATEVER REASON THAT WE FORGET TO PRESS THE DAMN APPLY BUTTON WHICH LEADS TO FINDING OUT LATER THAT YOU HAVE LOST X NUMBER OF POINTS DUDE TO THE MOST IDIOTIC MECHANIC EVER CREATED FOR JUMPCLONES. FIRST GET OFF SHIP...THEN OPEN QUEUE, THEN PAUSE, THEN JUMP , AND THEN GOD FORBID YOU FORGET TO CLICK APPLY OR THERE GOES 50,60 OR EVEN 70K SKILLPOINTS...SO. HOW ABOUT WE STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT "LOOK" BETTER AND CONCENTRATE ON MAKING IT BETTER. THI IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE MANY TWEEKS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ABOUT 6 PATCHES AGO. |

Zarakik
Discoverings SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.09.29 19:50:51 -
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Why old characters don't get 350k free skill points but only new ones created recently? |

warbds
Stoli Holdings
12
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Posted - 2015.09.29 19:54:52 -
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Strange normally when you mouse over your wallet in the menu that one is even with the amount in your wallet which was opened. Not anymore sometimes there is a difference. Made a screenshot so if needed you can see it. That was for about 10 minutes the case. |

Steijn
Quay Industries
1010
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Posted - 2015.09.29 20:26:56 -
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warbds wrote:Strange normally when you mouse over your wallet in the menu that one is even with the amount in your wallet which was opened. Not anymore sometimes there is a difference. Made a screenshot so if needed you can see it. That was for about 10 minutes the case.
thats not new, been like it on mine for ages. |

Tyranis Marcus
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1448
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Posted - 2015.09.29 20:30:02 -
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Red Deck wrote:Yay, a visible/graphical jump-cloak timer!  Is there a graphical station undock timer in the works, too?
It's already there, top left corner of the screen. The session change timer is so short now that it's easy to miss it.
Looks like some good stuff in that patch.
Do not run. We are your friends.
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Chucky Schuldiner
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.09.29 21:00:43 -
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The sound "The asteroid is depleeted" and "A module ran out of charges" doesn't work anymore   |

iCappyi
Delusions of Adequacy Get Off My Lawn
6
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Posted - 2015.09.29 21:20:43 -
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Shouldn't every active account get 350,000 un-allocated skill points? |

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
514
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Posted - 2015.09.29 21:37:26 -
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Is Defense of the Throne Worlds ever coming back or is that content being written off? |
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Opsblitz
M. Corp Engineering Executive Outcomes
20
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Posted - 2015.09.29 22:07:02 -
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Darkblad wrote:Yspyg Ecaps wrote:wait how do you get the free skill points? Characters that got created shortly before Vanguard will receive them soon-ish. CCP Rise mentioned a week (or more) until the get applied CCP Rise wrote:One note: if you made your character in the last few days you will have less SP than people who created after Vanguard, that's not good! Some time soon after Vanguard (maybe a week or so) we will hand out 300k unallocated SP to all characters created in the two weeks leading up to Vanguard release. Sorry for having to wait a little but we gotchu.
I am glad that you have taken the time to up the sp on new characters giving them a littel more of a fight straight out of the gate but as a long time VET I feel that it is CCP duty when it comes to items such as these to reimburse all of those before this patch with 350,000 Sp as I was only given 50,ooo when I started.
CCP, you know its the right thing to do and I am alittle ashamed of you that no mention of this came from CCP before this patch....NO sorry VETS, Thanks for all the crap ton of money you have spent on this game as well as merchandise with out a word about reimbursement.
Hope to hear from you soon cause lord know I could use 350,000 sp right now. |

orashnic
Soul Takers
5
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Posted - 2015.09.29 22:20:19 -
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Out of curiosity, is there any particular reason the black skull on the Loki's Tactical Targeting Network was removed, or is this something that was missed during the reskin? |

Alundil
Isogen 5
1030
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Posted - 2015.09.29 22:31:33 -
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Opsblitz wrote:Darkblad wrote:Yspyg Ecaps wrote:wait how do you get the free skill points? Characters that got created shortly before Vanguard will receive them soon-ish. CCP Rise mentioned a week (or more) until the get applied CCP Rise wrote:One note: if you made your character in the last few days you will have less SP than people who created after Vanguard, that's not good! Some time soon after Vanguard (maybe a week or so) we will hand out 300k unallocated SP to all characters created in the two weeks leading up to Vanguard release. Sorry for having to wait a little but we gotchu. I am glad that you have taken the time to up the sp on new characters giving them a littel more of a fight straight out of the gate but as a long time VET I feel that it is CCP duty when it comes to items such as these to reimburse all of those before this patch with 350,000 Sp as I was only given 50,ooo when I started. CCP, you know its the right thing to do and I am alittle ashamed of you that no mention of this came from CCP before this patch....NO sorry VETS, Thanks for all the crap ton of money you have spent on this game as well as merchandise with out a word about reimbursement. Hope to hear from you soon cause lord know I could use 350,000 sp right now. At an estimated 170+ million SP, that 350k is negligible http://imgur.com/5To2Wxh
I'm right behind you
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Nix Pardus
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
0
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Posted - 2015.09.29 23:00:55 -
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Can we get an option to disable or toggle off our own ships bracket? |

Tristan Agion
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.09.29 23:44:09 -
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Concerning the skill point bump (400k instead of 50k) for new players:
I'm a relatively new player (1 month & 3 weeks, 2.5M SP). Waiting for skills to be learned is so far perhaps the most annoying feature of playing EVE, since it is a limitation one can do little about with active gameplay. I can understand the rationale behind that skill system design choice, and I can also see how 350k extra SP may feel negligible for people who have played this game for many years. But I am somewhat envious of even newer players who now "jump the queue" by about a week or two of skill learning; and for me those extra SP others will get are still a significant fraction of what I have managed to generate so far (mostly just by existing, partly by paying for implants and skill books).
So I would like to second the suggestion that every player should get an equalising 350k SP, not just those who will be overtaken in their total SP otherwise. For those well advanced in the game this might be almost unnoticeable, but I for one would very much notice having a week or two shaved off my current training plans... |

Cypr3ss Deteis
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
41
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Posted - 2015.09.29 23:53:27 -
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Annexe wrote:Kopaka Newton wrote:The self-ship bracket needs to be a different color, or at least show corp/ alliance/ fleet status. Right now when I'm zoomed out I see a neutral ship on grid with me and I freak out since local should be blue and overview shows nothing. If it was the blue NPC color but hollow that would work. +1 own ship icon should be different colour. blue/green. i zoomed out and thought there was a neut next to me!!
+1
This really needs to change as mentioned above, or give us the option to turn it off.
Regards, Cypr3ss. |

Anubis Amarian
Tillistrian Enterprises Stella Nova
2
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Posted - 2015.09.30 00:02:49 -
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Just wondering, is there a bug where T3 cruisers turn black, like shadows? Logged in just now and I see nothing but the guns! |

Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
242
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Posted - 2015.09.30 00:16:12 -
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Chucky Schuldiner wrote:The sound "The asteroid is depleeted" and "A module ran out of charges" doesn't work anymore  
Honestly i noticed this as well...and so, i think it should stay that way.....
You want to multibox in a relaxed way....not anymore.... You want to rat in the same way some miners watch netflix or whatever....not anymore.
I multibox and i found this gratifying as my face lit up with a smile...i thought...yeah semi-afk multibox or rat or what ever now lazy ass carebears |

Rekt Zero
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.09.30 00:25:47 -
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Max Deveron wrote:Chucky Schuldiner wrote:The sound "The asteroid is depleeted" and "A module ran out of charges" doesn't work anymore   Honestly i noticed this as well...and so, i think it should stay that way..... And I think that it shouldn't. Hell, why not remove all sounds from the game then? Wouldn't that be dandy. |

JTK Fotheringham
Merchants Trade Consortium The Last Chancers.
98
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Posted - 2015.09.30 00:26:51 -
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Using the same sound for depot anchoring and jump cloak ending was not a good design choice, imho. Is there a way to switch this off?
The ship icon for my own ship that appears when I scroll out - I'm sure it's great for new players, but after a few months, its something completely intuitive, and therefore unnecessary clutter - is there a way to switch this off?
But seems good, smooth-ish deployment, my only problem issue has been the T3 silhouette. Thanks for the great work. |
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Vic Jefferson
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
626
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Posted - 2015.09.30 00:43:30 -
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JTK Fotheringham wrote:The ship icon for my own ship that appears when I scroll out - I'm sure it's great for new players, but after a few months, its something completely intuitive, and therefore unnecessary clutter - is there a way to switch this off?
This. Please add an option to disable this. New features are great, but not when they make the game harder to play.
Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM XI
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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
292
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Posted - 2015.09.30 02:12:38 -
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Kopaka Newton wrote:The self-ship bracket needs to be a different color, or at least show corp/ alliance/ fleet status. Right now when I'm zoomed out I see a neutral ship on grid with me and I freak out since local should be blue and overview shows nothing. If it was the blue NPC color but hollow that would work.
The icon is very useful, but it really should be a different color. The icon gets scary in WH space. |

loquacious7
String Theory For. U The Obsidian Front
21
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Posted - 2015.09.30 05:20:02 -
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Thanks, and I hope the server is ok, clients just froze up and when docked station went dark. btw own ship icon is not liked :) I love not having to see another troll captor ever again. THANKS |

Ted Rockson
eXtreme Co Solyaris Chtonium
5
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Posted - 2015.09.30 06:33:37 -
[54] - Quote
Love the jump cloak timer no more stop watch  |

Red Deck
The Tebo Corp
71
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Posted - 2015.09.30 07:55:38 -
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Tyranis Marcus wrote:Red Deck wrote:Yay, a visible/graphical jump-cloak timer!  Is there a graphical station undock timer in the works, too? It's already there, top left corner of the screen. The session change timer is so short now that it's easy to miss it. The session change timer is not the same as the undock invulnerability timer, which is the one I had in mind.
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Sama Dobrota
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2015.09.30 08:17:30 -
[56] - Quote
Shilalasar wrote:Could the own ship-¦s bracket be coloured? Freaked me out when I looked back at the monitor and saw a shipbracket not in the overview.
This. CCPlease, change this icon color |

Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
242
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Posted - 2015.09.30 09:19:44 -
[57] - Quote
Rekt Zero wrote:Max Deveron wrote:Chucky Schuldiner wrote:The sound "The asteroid is depleeted" and "A module ran out of charges" doesn't work anymore   Honestly i noticed this as well...and so, i think it should stay that way..... And I think that it shouldn't. Hell, why not remove all sounds from the game then? Beucase surely, EVERYBODY are multiboxers.......... more dots ........
Afraid of something? or lazy? pay attention to your game then instead whining like a carebear |

Viceran Phaedra
Instar Heavy Industries
69
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Posted - 2015.09.30 09:32:15 -
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It looks like some of the Legion and Loki subsystem textures didn't go through properly. When you use the following subsystem combo...
- Nanobot Injector - Tactical Targeting Network - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers - Fuel Catalyst - Power Core Multiplier
...the result is that all the Legion textures fail and all you get is a jet-black model with only the guns textured.
I'm sure there are other combos that do the same thing; I've seen guys in chat channels saying similar about certain Loki configurations, but that's the only one I can give you at the moment.
Otherwise, good patch, thanks CCP. o7
Chief Executive Officer
Instar Heavy Industries
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Janeway84
Def Squadron Pride Before Fall
177
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Posted - 2015.09.30 09:39:37 -
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The sound effect when you polarize yourself after jumping through wh freaked me out at first time. Please change the sound to something more suitable or remove the sound fx since you already have the smooth sound of wh activation the polarization sound feels a little disruptive when it suddenly appears. Otherwise i havent found anything yet though might need more time to discover more crazy stuff  |

Cephalosa Galactica
Capitol Engineering
8
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Posted - 2015.09.30 09:42:01 -
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Darkblad wrote:Yspyg Ecaps wrote:wait how do you get the free skill points? Characters that got created shortly before Vanguard will receive them soon-ish. CCP Rise mentioned a week (or more) until the get applied CCP Rise wrote:One note: if you made your character in the last few days you will have less SP than people who created after Vanguard, that's not good! Some time soon after Vanguard (maybe a week or so) we will hand out 300k unallocated SP to all characters created in the two weeks leading up to Vanguard release. Sorry for having to wait a little but we gotchu.
Yeah and what about us the ones that have been supporting you for ten years...do we get anything other than inflated plex prices.....I for once im boycotting your plex deals...I simply don't buy anymore, why? because you don't listen to your old players...you keep cattering to more and more noobs and us the backbone of the game get treated with crappy skins (usless) more isk for plex...and better graphics. that's it. I tell you what...if you are so desperate to acquire new players that you are giving a month worth of skillpoints to newbs that must mean that your player base is dwindling...( I wonder why) then I guess ill create a bunch a newb toons take the points gank more miners with those points and increase the price of plex even more...oh and almost forgot... good luck on the slow death of your company CCP I look forward to star citizen and the such... |
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Oraac Ensor
643
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Posted - 2015.09.30 09:50:28 -
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Sama Dobrota wrote:Shilalasar wrote:Could the own ship-¦s bracket be coloured? Freaked me out when I looked back at the monitor and saw a shipbracket not in the overview. This. CCPlease, change this icon color Better still: change the icon.
Why does it need to represent the ship type that the player is flying? He presumably already knows that.
I would suggest that the 'Look at my ship' icon from the radial menu is the most suitable and would be instantly recognisable. |

JackMarston
B R I M E R
5
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Posted - 2015.09.30 11:19:09 -
[62] - Quote
cloaktimer? did this game needed to be dumbed down further?? sigh...... |

Rekt Zero
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.09.30 11:31:19 -
[63] - Quote
My 4mil character would love 400k worth of training. Just fyi. And I sure do hope you give it to me and not just new characters, because that's stupid and unfair. |

Scarlett Stolas
Cherry-Poppers Reverberation Project
12
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Posted - 2015.09.30 12:11:24 -
[64] - Quote
JackMarston wrote:cloaktimer? did this game needed to be dumbed down further?? sigh...... I fail to see how the cloak timer dumbs things down. If anything, it dumbs it down less as you can now actually make decisions based off your remaining cloak timer instead of just guessing. |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
3916

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Posted - 2015.09.30 14:06:03 -
[65] - Quote
Oraac Ensor wrote:Sama Dobrota wrote:Shilalasar wrote:Could the own ship-¦s bracket be coloured? Freaked me out when I looked back at the monitor and saw a shipbracket not in the overview. This. CCPlease, change this icon color Better still: change the icon. Why does it need to represent the ship type that the player is flying? He presumably already knows that. We are looking into changing the icon for you own ship so it's unique.
CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Game of Drones | @CCP_karkur
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Imustbecomfused
The-Ultraviolet-Realm
61
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Posted - 2015.09.30 17:17:32 -
[66] - Quote
All looks well here...
Wormhole systems can now be auto-linked - what does this mean? im confused here, throw me a bone.
Added an in-space bracket for own ship. Only shows when zoomed out - is there an option to turn this off? brackets? I simply prefer to not have an icon in the middle of space when i zoom out. its not natural to see an icon in space when you are so far away. idk it just makes it feel less realistic.
I like the timers, but the color scheme doesnt bring that old school eve feel to me... I really miss the metallic looking finish on the icons and the neocom... thankfully though, i can still get that same color scheme from when I started before they made all those changes. I really miss that. :/ but ya know, I think they are cool, I like that they stand out... so thats likely why they are bright colors, etc.
Where is the cap booster injector effect? i thought ccp was gonna add that idea i had where the gold ripple effect will occur now when you cap inject, for more added visual pleasures, ofc! :)   |

Tyranis Marcus
Bloody Heathens
1448
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Posted - 2015.09.30 20:26:21 -
[67] - Quote
Red Deck wrote:Tyranis Marcus wrote:Red Deck wrote:Yay, a visible/graphical jump-cloak timer!  Is there a graphical station undock timer in the works, too? It's already there, top left corner of the screen. The session change timer is so short now that it's easy to miss it. The session change timer is not the same as the undock invulnerability timer, which is the one I had in mind.
Ohhhhh...yeah...that one! Oops. Good point.
Do not run. We are your friends.
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Tyranis Marcus
Bloody Heathens
1448
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Posted - 2015.09.30 20:32:39 -
[68] - Quote
CCP karkur wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Sama Dobrota wrote:Shilalasar wrote:Could the own ship-¦s bracket be coloured? Freaked me out when I looked back at the monitor and saw a shipbracket not in the overview. This. CCPlease, change this icon color Better still: change the icon. Why does it need to represent the ship type that the player is flying? He presumably already knows that. We are looking into changing the icon for you own ship so it's unique.
It might be cool to add a colortag setting for it, too.
Not sure what you'd call it. Pilot is Pilot? :)
Do not run. We are your friends.
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Cephalosa Galactica
Capitol Engineering
8
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Posted - 2015.09.30 20:38:59 -
[69] - Quote
JackMarston wrote:cloaktimer? did this game needed to be dumbed down further?? sigh......
Yes because the average IQ of EVE players has decreased point by point with every patch...every change...I mean, I rather play 06-2010 EVE than the past five years of getting more and more retardedness......the last update that I can remember that was worth anything was inferno...after that, everything has been crap after crap after crap. That is probably why I now only own 2 toon compared to 15, 6 years ago. That is why the average number of players online on a Saturday afternoon has gone from fifty thousand plus to a ****** seventeen thousand and under. Whatever you are doing CCP...keep going. We will just adapt and maybe even change games...It is not 2008 anymore, you do have competition now. :) |

Tillblik Mangeiri
Major League Infidels Size Really Doesn't Matter
4
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Posted - 2015.09.30 20:50:05 -
[70] - Quote
You got rid of the system voice message "The asteroid has been depleted." Is there any chance you would put this back in? Mining is boring and a friendly ship voice from time to time is much welcome not to mention I'm usually looking at fits when the asteroid pops, and subsequently lose an amount of time not mining. |
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Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
240
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Posted - 2015.09.30 21:14:38 -
[71] - Quote
Cephalosa Galactica wrote:JackMarston wrote:cloaktimer? did this game needed to be dumbed down further?? sigh...... Yes because the average IQ of EVE players has decreased point by point with every patch...every change...I mean, I rather play 06-2010 EVE than the past five years of getting more and more retardedness......the last update that I can remember that was worth anything was inferno...after that, everything has been crap after crap after crap. That is probably why I now only own 2 toon compared to 15, 6 years ago. That is why the average number of players online on a Saturday afternoon has gone from fifty thousand plus to a ****** seventeen thousand and under. Whatever you are doing CCP...keep going. We will just adapt and maybe even change games...It is not 2008 anymore, you do have competition now. :)
These two quotes weren't very constructive. How does having a timer on the jump gate cloaking negatively affect your gameplay? When they changed out the overview icons, they were told by many how it hurt gameplay, giving specific examples. That the playerbase was ignored doesn't change the need to be constructive in general. |

Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
240
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Posted - 2015.09.30 21:16:35 -
[72] - Quote
CCP karkur wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Sama Dobrota wrote:Shilalasar wrote:Could the own ship-¦s bracket be coloured? Freaked me out when I looked back at the monitor and saw a shipbracket not in the overview. This. CCPlease, change this icon color Better still: change the icon. Why does it need to represent the ship type that the player is flying? He presumably already knows that. We are looking into changing the icon for you own ship so it's unique.
Thank you. And I'll second/third the 'jump/fight' feeling of suddenly seeing what appears to be another player on the grid, then having it turn out to be something else. |

Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
240
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Posted - 2015.09.30 21:37:04 -
[73] - Quote
Cephalosa Galactica wrote:That is why the average number of players online on a Saturday afternoon has gone from fifty thousand plus to a ****** seventeen thousand and under. Whatever you are doing CCP...keep going. We will just adapt and maybe even change games...It is not 2008 anymore, you do have competition now. :)
I'd say part of the shrinking numbers come from a lack of effective outreach (advertising, etc). There may be outreach, but as the numbers seem to still be low, it's in need of more effective methods. Place EVE advertising where it hasn't been, perhaps? |

Xiomaro Puxi
Demonic Affliction Black Irish Industries
7
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Posted - 2015.09.30 23:16:17 -
[74] - Quote
yay! more missions for the pvp crowd but as usual we bears get nothing...... |

Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
242
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Posted - 2015.09.30 23:51:08 -
[75] - Quote
Tillblik Mangeiri wrote:You got rid of the system voice message "The asteroid has been depleted." Is there any chance you would put this back in? Mining is boring and a friendly ship voice from time to time is much welcome not to mention I'm usually looking at fits when the asteroid pops, and subsequently lose an amount of time not mining.
Thats why you dock up, or have second screen....i dont like or suport CODE. but it sounds like your a prime canidate for them. How about paying attention to your game and playing it.....that goes for other guy as well whining about it.
Multiboxing.....quit being lazy and play the game. Not mulitboxing....well manually maintaining your lasers while mining grants you better efficiency and faster mining then waiting for the rock to pop like a bot.....quit watching netflix ro whatever or dock up.....
But sheesh, quit whining. |

Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp Chao3 Alliance
296
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Posted - 2015.09.30 23:51:58 -
[76] - Quote
Pretty happy with most of the changes, except the way the trollceptor problem has been addressed. Some aspect of inty nullification should have been changed instead of the current choice.
Regarding the multi buy, it is a great feature. This said, It would be nice to have the multibuy option too on the information window after you fit your ship from the items already in your hangar and the systems shows you the modules that are still missing from your inventory. Being able to buy all of those from the information window would be great!
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope...
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Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp Chao3 Alliance
296
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Posted - 2015.09.30 23:53:37 -
[77] - Quote
CCP karkur wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Sama Dobrota wrote:Shilalasar wrote:Could the own ship-¦s bracket be coloured? Freaked me out when I looked back at the monitor and saw a shipbracket not in the overview. This. CCPlease, change this icon color Better still: change the icon. Why does it need to represent the ship type that the player is flying? He presumably already knows that. We are looking into changing the icon for you own ship so it's unique.
Please make it an arrow to indicate the current direction your ship is going. It would be best when using the tactical overlay.
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope...
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JetSet Ravnos
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.10.01 00:15:42 -
[78] - Quote
CCP karkur wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Sama Dobrota wrote:Shilalasar wrote:Could the own ship-¦s bracket be coloured? Freaked me out when I looked back at the monitor and saw a shipbracket not in the overview. This. CCPlease, change this icon color Better still: change the icon. Why does it need to represent the ship type that the player is flying? He presumably already knows that. We are looking into changing the icon for you own ship so it's unique.
While offering a choice of unique icon for your ship bracket, how about adding in that customizable icons for overview option as was promised?
>JetSet |

Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
240
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Posted - 2015.10.01 02:41:35 -
[79] - Quote
Max Deveron wrote:Tillblik Mangeiri wrote:You got rid of the system voice message "The asteroid has been depleted." Is there any chance you would put this back in? Mining is boring and a friendly ship voice from time to time is much welcome not to mention I'm usually looking at fits when the asteroid pops, and subsequently lose an amount of time not mining. Thats why you dock up, or have second screen....i dont like or suport CODE. but it sounds like your a prime canidate for them. How about paying attention to your game and playing it.....that goes for other guy as well whining about it. Multiboxing.....quit being lazy and play the game. Not mulitboxing....well manually maintaining your lasers while mining grants you better efficiency and faster mining then waiting for the rock to pop like a bot.....quit watching netflix ro whatever or dock up..... But sheesh, quit whining.
I also like the 'The asteroid has been depleted' audio message. Although this has been gone for a bit, I also liked the little message that would pop up in local when I finished out a 'formerly known as Gravimetric' scanned belt. That was a nice little item and I missed it when it stopped.
As for the person accusing miners of whining, I'll play my way and make my requests. Sorry if you find such things so offensive as to go on a verbal tirade concerning them. |

FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1771
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Posted - 2015.10.01 07:44:56 -
[80] - Quote
Kopaka Newton wrote:The self-ship bracket needs to be a different color, or at least show corp/ alliance/ fleet status. Right now when I'm zoomed out I see a neutral ship on grid with me and I freak out since local should be blue and overview shows nothing. If it was the blue NPC color but hollow that would work.
Please do this...
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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Vahligmarr
Tribal Core
4
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Posted - 2015.10.01 09:16:49 -
[81] - Quote
I like the new Station Graphics, thx CCP, good Job ... will we see a command ship overhaul soon, because of the improved BCs...? |

Steijn
Quay Industries
1010
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Posted - 2015.10.01 11:58:55 -
[82] - Quote
yesterday checking resource cache was quick and efficient, today, back to waiting 6 or 7 minutes for it to complete. |

Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
242
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Posted - 2015.10.01 21:43:18 -
[83] - Quote
Joia Crenca wrote:
As for the person accusing miners of whining, I'll play my way and make my requests. Sorry if you find such things so offensive as to go on a verbal tirade concerning them.
Think you better check yourself at the door.... For all intents and purposes I am a miner, a researcher, a missioner, and a manufacturer....and when necessary a Hauler....
I am Indy, and i see no problem with the loss of these AFK'ing enabling audio outputs...but then maybe im just a better player than you. |

Krystyn
Serenity Rising LLC 404 Alliance Not Found
209
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Posted - 2015.10.02 01:56:59 -
[84] - Quote
Oraac Ensor wrote:Sama Dobrota wrote:Shilalasar wrote:Could the own ship-¦s bracket be coloured? Freaked me out when I looked back at the monitor and saw a shipbracket not in the overview. This. CCPlease, change this icon color Better still: change the icon. Why does it need to represent the ship type that the player is flying? He presumably already knows that. I would suggest that the 'Look at my ship' icon from the radial menu is the most suitable and would be instantly recognisable.
How about you add your own ship to the overview tab and allow players to choose how it appears. I would like to look purple when I'm in a fleet to avoid the holy crap neut on field feeling. But, during other times it might look better differently. It should also match up in the local listing as well. |

Rekt Zero
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.10.02 02:05:21 -
[85] - Quote
Well today your own ship, when zoomed out, is gray'ish. Now I might be color blind when lasers and missiles and huge explosions are on-screen, so that little color difference doesn't really do it for me. I'm still thinking it's something I need to target lol. |

Rekt Zero
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.10.02 02:07:31 -
[86] - Quote
Max Deveron wrote:Tillblik Mangeiri wrote:You got rid of the system voice message "The asteroid has been depleted." Is there any chance you would put this back in? Mining is boring and a friendly ship voice from time to time is much welcome not to mention I'm usually looking at fits when the asteroid pops, and subsequently lose an amount of time not mining. Thats why you dock up, or have second screen....i dont like or suport CODE. but it sounds like your a prime canidate for them. How about paying attention to your game and playing it.....that goes for other guy as well whining about it. Multiboxing.....quit being lazy and play the game. Not mulitboxing....well manually maintaining your lasers while mining grants you better efficiency and faster mining then waiting for the rock to pop like a bot.....quit watching netflix ro whatever or dock up..... But sheesh, quit whining. To me it looks like you're the one doing all the whining, so that's pretty lol. |

Krystyn
Serenity Rising LLC 404 Alliance Not Found
209
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Posted - 2015.10.02 02:11:49 -
[87] - Quote
val dor wrote:more skins again, still more expensive price for plex
what evolution on the number of active players ?
Aside from some minor upgrades to BCs what actually changed with this upgrade? I do like this and appreciate my Drakes won't suck quite so hard anymore.
What changed that actually has an effect in game? SKINs are worthless filler. Until you have corporate or alliance SKINs worked out almost no one cares stop wasting my time. Improved graphics are nice, but make no difference to actual gameplay. Fix gameplay issues first!!!
-Design some new missions for the High Sec players. Maybe some for Null and Low Sec too with Capital sized Rats.
-Fill out some of the tech 2 gaps we have with ships. Like the Tech 2 Bantam for example. -Mid sized hauler between industrials and Freighters. -Mining Cruiser? Tech 2 Orca -T2 Capitals? -Corporation Menu upgrade, Roles and titles improvements etc. -Personal Hangar Tabs -More Corporate Hangar Tabs. -Restore Flavor Text to modules and Ammo, while still allowing them to have the easily serchable keywords. I want friggin Widowmaker Missiles back
-Can I repackage things inside of containers? Can I repair things inside of containers? Can I see the inside of containers remotely?
-Can I accept my own contract on behalf of my corp?
-Fix BSes so they aren't so torturously slow.
-Jump Fatigue.... |

Yossarian Toralen
M and M Enterpises
49
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Posted - 2015.10.02 05:56:11 -
[88] - Quote
Why would you automatically add an annoying icon over the top of the ship you are flying yet you don't automatically add something that will kill your ship ie. tactical destroyer?
Also, how do I remove it because I can't find an "own ship" bracket or is this something I didn't know I needed but you are forcing upon me? |

Seven Koskanaiken
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
1657
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Posted - 2015.10.02 12:14:02 -
[89] - Quote
Well I just started a new toon for ~reasons~ and the new starter SP definitely makes it a breeze to get through the tutorial.
Although for some reason now the tutorial doesn't really teach anything. I remember a lot of text and links to evelopedia that doesn't exist anymore. I guess it was grindy to get through, but, probably better than nothing. There's a lot of stuff I find myself doing because I already know, rather than having it explained though the tutorial.
The career agent are useless as ever and teach hardly anything about their respective fields. Personally I'd go the Elite method and use youtube video links to actors playing these agents, who also explain something of value which can then be practiced in the mission, rather than the "industry agent" sending you on assassination mission #14 zzzzzz. |

Malrikk
The Seeing Eye Plexodus
15
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Posted - 2015.10.02 12:34:14 -
[90] - Quote
I don't suppose older accounts will receive the SP bonus retroactively? |
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Mhowatt
Harbingers of Chaos Inc Gentlemen's.Club
6
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Posted - 2015.10.02 14:09:37 -
[91] - Quote
I love the New Gate timer: Thanks!!!
HOWEVER.... I would love to see this same invulnerability timer when undocking from a station.
Give a mouse a crumb....  |

Alexander Tekitsu
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2015.10.02 20:32:00 -
[92] - Quote
Rekt Zero wrote:My 4mil character would love 400k worth of training. Just fyi. And I sure do hope you give it to me and not just new characters, because that's stupid and unfair. If they want to be fair they will just make sure everyone has at minimum the same skills/skill levels of a new player and not hand out SP at all. Already trained, great, didn't need those SP anyway. New players also have separate skills for Light/Medium drones where anyone who was around for Combat Drone Operation was gifted both at equal level in trade for that skill ( up to 256k SP advantage over a new player ). |

Soltys
23
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Posted - 2015.10.03 22:16:25 -
[93] - Quote
Gate time is nice addition, but it could be improved in one crucial way:
Please, make sure it is synced with server tick.
More precisely the moment the timer icon starts disappearing implies we can start using modules without dreaded "Interference from ...." message. Current implementation is purely client side - the moment you issue any movement command the timer goes away (with client functionally still being under gate cloak).
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Circumstantial Evidence
230
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Posted - 2015.10.04 17:32:55 -
[94] - Quote
Station graphics - Very nice, texture variations stand out much better with updated shaders, and I think animated fogs or "cloud layers" under domes, are new effects. I think the movement speed of these animated cloud layers could be cut in half.
Unfortunately, the industrial design (girders, "rust") of most Minmatar stations makes it look like the poor downtrodden Minmatar are living under a haze of constant pollution, in their space stations. Gallente live under much cleaner domes. (Their stations have smog filters.) |

Viceran Phaedra
Instar Heavy Industries
69
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Posted - 2015.10.05 18:38:48 -
[95] - Quote
Still so much whinge. No wonder CCP needed pizza reps. For every capsuleer that complains, at least five more happy ones remain satisfied and silent, CCP. Remember that!
A small additional suggestion for the NES/SKINs guys, if they have the time, please:
1) Fill out the existing SKIN lines (InterBus, Khanid etc etc) perhaps before releasing new ones
2) Some 'complete' SKIN lines still have SKINs missing, like the 'Valklear Glory' line (all navy-issue ship SKINs missing)
3) Please make all pirate SKINs permanent (destroyer/BC SKINs are still only 30 day licenses as opposed to things like the Blood Raider Paladin which is permanent)
Chief Executive Officer
Instar Heavy Industries
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John WarpingSlow
Aliastra Gallente Federation
95
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Posted - 2015.10.20 12:13:28 -
[96] - Quote
There was a new set of patches that came out today (Oct 20, 2015) but the patch notes are still only showing the Oct 15 update, and haven't been updated. Why?
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Ryker Sabezan
Ryker Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2015.10.26 02:25:48 -
[97] - Quote
Multi-Buy option is a gift from god, amazing job ccp must needed |
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