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Snatchz LOOKERS	Posted - 2006.12.23 16:29:00 - [1] Edited by: Snatchz on 23/12/2006 16:30:39 Just a question to ASCN and BoB i guess. Is this the final blow to ASCN's home/core system? I've been watching the killboards and it truely seems like ASCN forces are simply undocking to their deaths. As of this time 1 pilot alone from STK has lost 3 scorps and a blackbird in a matter of an hour or 2. Is this insurance suicide or the last stand? (At their defense though, the battleships are fitted out) P.S. The reason i ask is that the kb numebrs are just gaudy... "It aint easy being green" - Kermit the Frog
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.23 16:31:00 - [2] all ascn pos`s in azn, 14 of them, are in reeinforced since yesterday, with litle to no resistance. lets see if ascn can hinder us takin the pos`s down with more then just letting em coming out att he 25th in the morning. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Bretonia Gallente Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.23 16:34:00 - [3] Hello, I undock to fight so i can try to get just one kill before I die then rinse and repeat. Nothing to do with insurance just its funny, I managed to get a dictor n few otehr ships last time before I died part from last night when I got in from Stag do n forgot to upgrade clone heh n lost a nice long skill :) Heh win some u lose some but jolly good fun Keep up the good fights :) ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------
Kerosene Caldari Fun Inc Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.23 17:30:00 - [4] xmas > shooting AZN pos's imo __ Originally by: Blacklight on BoB Just to be sure everyone is clear... We use spies. We listen to your TS. We feed you false intel. We have no qualms about it whatsoever..
FlashmanUK Minmatar STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.23 17:32:00 - [5] Wasn't for insurance. Wasn't for anything but fun, because this war has been boring so we decided to suicide a few bs to kill a few ships. End of the day its better to have a laugh than gouge your eyes out inside a station.
Tabaldak eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.23 17:38:00 - [6] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists lets see if ascn can hinder us takin the pos`s down with more then just letting em coming out att he 25th in the morning. Hmm, good question. I would say most of us will be with our families considering that is Christmas morning. Most of us have, you know, better things to do on X-Mas day than to worry about pos. Sorry to disappoint you, but we have lives that consist of other things besides eve.
Cyllaina Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.12.23 17:38:00 - [7] When i left ASCN yesterday, there were TLSW guys and some others blowing up their ships for insurance.... I can't see ASCN lasting too much longer, Security chat was in an uproar about majority of pilots being in empire... Oh well
Lexor SLice Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.23 17:43:00 - [8] Did Virt lift the forum ban on you guys? ____________________________________________ Your signature graphic file size is too large -Zhuge Sad Panda =(
ragewind Caldari VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.23 17:48:00 - [9] Originally by: Tabaldak Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists lets see if ascn can hinder us takin the pos`s down with more then just letting em coming out att he 25th in the morning. Hmm, good question. I would say most of us will be with our families considering that is Christmas morning. Most of us have, you know, better things to do on X-Mas day than to worry about pos. Sorry to disappoint you, but we have lives that consist of other things besides eve. do you really but then why do 14 pos's come out on XMAS day then 14 pos's takes time to hit in to reinforced meaning you had time to adjust the stront so you picked they day, guess you all plan on being on then
Mariko San Saints Surrounded	Posted - 2006.12.23 17:49:00 - [10] Originally by: Cyllaina When i left ASCN yesterday, there were TLSW guys and some others blowing up their ships for insurance.... I can't see ASCN lasting too much longer, Security chat was in an uproar about majority of pilots being in empire... Oh well I took the trouble to look you up on the ASCN KB. 2 kills ever. Why is it always the pilots with the fewest kills and least involvement that are the first to hand out the good advice on these forums?
Shinjuro The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.23 17:53:00 - [11] From what I have heard, Christmas day will be the falling of AZN. Oh how fitting of a Merry X-Mas that will be.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.23 18:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Tabaldak Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists lets see if ascn can hinder us takin the pos`s down with more then just letting em coming out att he 25th in the morning. Hmm, good question. I would say most of us will be with our families considering that is Christmas morning. Most of us have, you know, better things to do on X-Mas day than to worry about pos. Sorry to disappoint you, but we have lives that consist of other things besides eve. Great plan. Now if BoB destroy all your POS it will because they don't have a life outside of Eve, and not your alliances failings .. is that the idea? And you call us weak. Funneh. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Nev Clavain Wise Guys Rogue Method Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.23 18:04:00 - [13] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Tabaldak Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists lets see if ascn can hinder us takin the pos`s down with more then just letting em coming out att he 25th in the morning. Hmm, good question. I would say most of us will be with our families considering that is Christmas morning. Most of us have, you know, better things to do on X-Mas day than to worry about pos. Sorry to disappoint you, but we have lives that consist of other things besides eve. Great plan. Now if BoB destroy all your POS it will because they don't have a life outside of Eve, and not your alliances failings .. is that the idea? And you call us weak. Funneh. Could be a combination of both? Just speculating. Merry christmas.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.23 18:05:00 - [14] I asked for AZN for xmas: A letter for Santa Santa might just deliver ;) ASCN made the interesting move to make the pos come out on 10am on xmas morning. Presumably they think this will dissuade us from taking them. Let's see what happens next shall we ;) dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.23 18:15:00 - [15] If there ever was a good time to bring out those 100 ASCN carriers, this would be it. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. That would really make for a Merry Christmas. The truth will set you free
Fi T'Zeh Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.23 18:35:00 - [16] I wish to here-by state that I have nothing better to do on Christmas morning than watching POS towers explode. In fact, seems like a good Christmas to me. Once they are all dead and done, I'll be visiting my family for a pleasant afternoon's meal and drinking. I wish you all a very merry Christmas. .... Real men use blasters
SasRipper DIE WITH HONOUR	Posted - 2006.12.23 18:40:00 - [17] fools they should have set them to come out reinforced at lunch time! \|- Insert witty sig here -\| Save Radar Scanner Man!
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.23 18:44:00 - [18] Originally by: DB Preacher I asked for AZN for xmas: A letter for Santa Santa might just deliver ;) ASCN made the interesting move to make the pos come out on 10am on xmas morning. Presumably they think this will dissuade us from taking them. Let's see what happens next shall we ;) dbp Something amusing came into my head. Gone are the days of the kids jumping on the bed at 6.30am, instead... Lots of daddies waking the kids up at 5.30am to see if Santa has been... so they can be on the op at 9am.
Gazmus Caldari Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.23 18:50:00 - [19] Originally by: Stamm Originally by: DB Preacher I asked for AZN for xmas: A letter for Santa Santa might just deliver ;) ASCN made the interesting move to make the pos come out on 10am on xmas morning. Presumably they think this will dissuade us from taking them. Let's see what happens next shall we ;) dbp Something amusing came into my head. Gone are the days of the kids jumping on the bed at 6.30am, instead... Lots of daddies waking the kids up at 5.30am to see if Santa has been... so they can be on the op at 9am. lol QFT
cflux Caldari FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.23 19:09:00 - [20] Originally by: Cyllaina When i left ASCN yesterday, there were TLSW guys and some others blowing up their ships for insurance.... I can't see ASCN lasting too much longer, Security chat was in an uproar about majority of pilots being in empire... Oh well Reading **** from someone with prestige to back their words is acceptable. You are among the reasons for the fall of ASCN. How can 0.0 alliance member have two kills and still forum warrior? --
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.23 20:02:00 - [21] I for one am thankful for those in BoB that either don't celebrate christmas, for whatever reason, or who wish to avoid their families and instead finish off acsn. I will be out getting fed and watered on my parents expense then visiting friends in the evening, had I not made these plans I'd take great pleasure in finishing off the defense of the ASCN capital - for those that timed these pos to come out at this time says alot more about them than it does about us :) Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.12.23 20:09:00 - [22] Originally by: Tabaldak Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists lets see if ascn can hinder us takin the pos`s down with more then just letting em coming out att he 25th in the morning. Hmm, good question. I would say most of us will be with our families considering that is Christmas morning. Most of us have, you know, better things to do on X-Mas day than to worry about pos. Sorry to disappoint you, but we have lives that consist of other things besides eve. What a genious plan! if bob manage to get enough people online to shoot the pos, you would spin it 'they have no life', but if they dont, the same leadership would spin it as a huge morale boost Only thing I am left wondering, is who is more stupid - the ASCN HC, thinking their members wont see through this, or the members, who indeed are.. in which case its just sad Anyhow, happy x-mas to all - smart and stupid as well Save Tranquility!
ollobrains Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.23 20:16:00 - [23] we at privateers are hitting ASCN within empire as well as well as lots of other peeps our KB is testiment to that it acn be found on ingame info queries surfice to say its been fun and mildly profitable
Exelsior Endangered Species	Posted - 2006.12.23 21:06:00 - [24] Originally by: ollobrains we at privateers are hitting ASCN within empire as well as well as lots of other peeps our KB is testiment to that it acn be found on ingame info queries surfice to say its been fun and mildly profitable So what exactly are you saying? That you joined on the bandwagon, but didn't quite have the balls to go to 0.0? Now if you had attacked the other side (BoB) you could talk. But honestly
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.23 21:16:00 - [25] "Now if you had attacked the other side (BoB) you could talk. But honestly " Privateer Alliance do have active war with BoB, actually...
CDS Leader Caldari Eve Forum Warriors	Posted - 2006.12.23 21:54:00 - [26] Originally by: ollobrains we at privateers are hitting ASCN within empire as well as well as lots of other peeps our KB is testiment to that it acn be found on ingame info queries surfice to say its been fun and mildly profitable BoB on the other hand, are not very profitable. Out of 5 bob I have targeted in empire, 4 logged and one died, dropping barly enough zyd to pay for the wardec. Well, lets see how it goes. Join Eve Forum Warriors Free Wardecs on Alliances! A Pirates Dream!
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.23 21:59:00 - [27] "BoB on the other hand, are not very profitable. Out of 5 bob I have targeted in empire, 4 logged and one died, dropping barly enough zyd to pay for the wardec. Well, lets see how it goes." i call bullcrap on that mister, why dont u provide some evidence to that?, oh right cause it never happened. and once again for u bobhaters out there, if u have a bob logged of, make a screen send it to the ceo and he will b punished, and after a 2nd time prolly land on the streets. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Mariko San Saints Surrounded	Posted - 2006.12.23 22:11:00 - [28] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Tabaldak Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists lets see if ascn can hinder us takin the pos`s down with more then just letting em coming out att he 25th in the morning. Hmm, good question. I would say most of us will be with our families considering that is Christmas morning. Most of us have, you know, better things to do on X-Mas day than to worry about pos. Sorry to disappoint you, but we have lives that consist of other things besides eve. Great plan. Now if BoB destroy all your POS it will because they don't have a life outside of Eve, and not your alliances failings .. is that the idea? And you call us weak. Funneh. A little from column A and a little from Column B i would say
Tacnafarias Fear And Loathing	Posted - 2006.12.23 22:28:00 - [29] Originally by: j0sephine "Now if you had attacked the other side (BoB) you could talk. But honestly " Privateer Alliance do have active war with BoB, actually... Ah ha, ha ha de ha ha. Har. Do your homework before sprouting **** kiddies.
Bobbeh Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.23 22:46:00 - [30] The POS's in AZN can be dropped before DT, then I go for lunch, Then I make my hangar in the AZN outpost cozy. That is all A member of BOBLite. Current standing BOB Lite 4 - ASCN 0
Aequitas Veritas TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.23 22:54:00 - [31] Yay :) Time to let one of my alt sit at POS and get afk killmails with his fighters while another keep it scrambled incase of gangwarps... win :p "The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.12.23 23:49:00 - [32] Originally by: Aequitas Veritas Yay :) Time to let one of my alt sit at POS and get afk killmails with his fighters while another keep it scrambled incase of gangwarps... win :p lol, I bet ASCN FCs wouldnt have the balls to do what Xirt did to Dian's Moros in 9CG We shall see though, perhaps x-mas brings some courage to them Save Tranquility!
Dal Thrax Caldari House Of Troy	Posted - 2006.12.23 23:57:00 - [33] Edited by: Dal Thrax on 24/12/2006 00:04:01 Originally by: DB Preacher I asked for AZN for xmas: A letter for Santa Santa might just deliver ;) ASCN made the interesting move to make the pos come out on 10am on xmas morning. Presumably they think this will dissuade us from taking them. Let's see what happens next shall we ;) dbp Hum 10 a.m. GMT, that's what 2 - 5 a.m. for the U.S. Timezones. Don't except you'll hear many American accents on TS at that time.
ElCoCo KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.12.23 23:57:00 - [34] How is this turkey shot (judging from the kb) is considered fun for ASCN is beyond me
Oreh Anavrin No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.24 00:06:00 - [35] Not everyone is in the US or celebrates christmas. I wager ASCN is in for a suprise :P
Trinity Faetal Gallente Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.24 00:13:00 - [36] One the first day of christmass, ASCN gave to me... -- join channel Dope Dealerz if you wanna sell or can supply drugs on a regular basis.
laotse Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.24 00:14:00 - [37] war i didnt get a memo 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 00:14:00 - [38] Originally by: Dal Thrax Hum 10 a.m. GMT, that's what 2 - 5 a.m. for the U.S. Timezones. Don't except you'll hear many American accents on TS at that time. You'd be surprised what I hear on BoB Ts. Ahem. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
laotse Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.24 00:18:00 - [39] \o dbp m8 you have way to much time 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Dominixa Shadows of the Dead Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.24 00:23:00 - [40] Nice work in AZN guys. Any ideas on station names?
Bretonia Gallente Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.24 00:30:00 - [41] Thanks for leaving ooyz station name Drac. Chap ment alot to people ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------
Rhakel Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 00:32:00 - [42] Originally by: Dominixa Nice work in AZN guys. Any ideas on station names? Lemming Spawn Point
heidrun Caelli-Merced	Posted - 2006.12.24 01:13:00 - [43] Originally by: Aequitas Veritas Yay :) Time to let one of my alt sit at POS and get afk killmails with his fighters while another keep it scrambled incase of gangwarps... win :p its all about the mails isnt that the reason you attacked ascn to start with?????,mailwh**es for the lamers!! no need to reply bobbit we all know its true.
slip66 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 01:52:00 - [44] Originally by: Dal Thrax Edited by: Dal Thrax on 24/12/2006 00:04:01 Originally by: DB Preacher I asked for AZN for xmas: A letter for Santa Santa might just deliver ;) ASCN made the interesting move to make the pos come out on 10am on xmas morning. Presumably they think this will dissuade us from taking them. Let's see what happens next shall we ;) dbp Hum 10 a.m. GMT, that's what 2 - 5 a.m. for the U.S. Timezones. Don't except you'll hear many American accents on TS at that time. to bad most of ASCN is US based. Im sure a good number of US bob players will make it. Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.24 01:58:00 - [45] Originally by: ElCoCo How is this turkey shot (judging from the kb) is considered fun for ASCN is beyond me It isn't a lot of fun tbh. Still as i was sat floating in a pod tonight after failing to catch a gang warp I was trying to take some positives from this, which is not easy. Still, the following occurred to me: (i) i know never to join a large mixed alliance again. (ii) i know to be much more careful about who I throw my lot in with (though several corps in ascn have surprised me with their application and coolness, top of which is probably Dragons Rage, who have been awesome in this conflict). (iii) we have whittled our corp down to a hardcore of very good and dependable guys that i look forward to flying with and can count on (iv) i have received a lot of insurance isk and become more liquid (v) we get to do something different, whatever that might be. things were way too comfortable down in RIT, almost never any hostiles, could rat and mine in peace whenever you liked, if u wanted to pvp it was crap because you had to go about 30 odd jumps down to HED area and once there maybe u could get a pirate kill or so but that was it. if this had not happened then what? we would have stayed around rit going on the odd raid north every few months from now until the servers close? What is happening is not what i would have wished for by a long shot but as i say, trying to look at some silver lining at least it puts some variety back into a game that was starting to get a bit stale. (v) i now have a legitimate reason to dislike bob (beyond mere jealousy of their l33tness) p.s. and virt cant kick me for posting because he knows i want to run off to empire to run missions really so he would just be doing me a favour.
Adam C 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.12.24 02:24:00 - [46] Originally by: Fitz Chivalry (i) i know never to join a large mixed alliance again. (ii) i know to be much more careful about who I throw my lot in with (though several corps in ascn have surprised me with their application and coolness, top of which is probably Dragons Rage, who have been awesome in this conflict). (iii) we have whittled our corp down to a hardcore of very good and dependable guys that i look forward to flying with and can count on Good Post, actually one of the very few opinions in ASCN that i do respect, p.s. Insidious says hi o/
Danari Amarr Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.24 03:10:00 - [47] Originally by: Lexor SLice Did Virt lift the forum ban on you guys? Nope. This quite literally may be my last post with the ASCN tag.
Dungheap Caldari Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.24 03:32:00 - [48] the baby hobbits have been sent to empire. tractor beams, salvagers and the like melted into bullets and missiles. a tear nearly came to my eye as i took a last screenie of the outpost our small corp worked so hard to build. every ship, fwiw, locked and loaded. we'll stand and fight and die, and tip our hat in local. then the last year's work will be undone, and off we go to regroup and rebuild. but not before i p**p down the radon pipes... ;D merry xmas all~ DH
Red Six Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 03:36:00 - [49] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Dal Thrax Hum 10 a.m. GMT, that's what 2 - 5 a.m. for the U.S. Timezones. Don't except you'll hear many American accents on TS at that time. You'd be surprised what I hear on BoB Ts. Ahem. dbp West Coast gonna be representing biatch!!! Originally by: Eridu Fallen Upon closer inspection, that Caldari BS doesn't even look like it got hit with the ugly stick, it looks like it is the ugly stick.
Halseth Durn Amarr Oberon Incorporated Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.12.24 06:17:00 - [50] Puzzled.
George Hurst S.M.C Cartage Co.	Posted - 2006.12.24 06:59:00 - [51] Originally by: Halseth Durn Puzzled. my thoughs exactly reagrding what I heard about your 'attempt' at nol
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.12.24 07:04:00 - [52] Originally by: DB Preacher ASCN made the interesting move to make the pos come out on 10am on xmas morning. Presumably they think this will dissuade us from taking them. Let's see what happens next shall we ;) dbp Or you found out how much stront was in them ans you attacked them at the right time so your sad bastard brigade could attack them on christmass day. Conciddering your "win at all costs" attitude I know where my bets are.
Sochin Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 07:34:00 - [53] Edited by: Sochin on 24/12/2006 07:34:27 Originally by: Himo Amasacia Originally by: DB Preacher ASCN made the interesting move to make the pos come out on 10am on xmas morning. Presumably they think this will dissuade us from taking them. Let's see what happens next shall we ;) dbp Or you found out how much stront was in them ans you attacked them at the right time so your sad bastard brigade could attack them on christmass day. Conciddering your "win at all costs" attitude I know where my bets are. Wow. Just wow. I seriously think the intelligence level of this game has plummeted drastically over the last few years. If that was a joke and I missed it, sorry. I've just come to expect almost anything from the forum idiots nowadays. PS: Your sig is extremely ironic. Nemo me impune lacessit
Resipsa Loquitor Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 07:44:00 - [54] Originally by: Dal Thrax Edited by: Dal Thrax on 24/12/2006 00:04:01 Hum 10 a.m. GMT, that's what 2 - 5 a.m. for the U.S. Timezones. Don't except you'll hear many American accents on TS at that time. Oh really? Interesting . . . . I played tonight well past midnight my local time. Most of the accents on our ts were distinctly British in nature (and those non-native English speakers that speak English with British mannerisms). That's 6am in the morning for them. I think the American players can show the same dedication by waking up early to participate in this special event, regardless of its outcome. I speak only for myself, but I know this: sometimes you have to go beyond your normal realm and habits to be part of a greater thing. siggy Res - It speaks for itself in a misspelled kind of way
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 07:52:00 - [55] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Or you found out how much stront was in them ans you attacked them at the right time so your sad bastard brigade could attack them on christmass day. Conciddering your "win at all costs" attitude I know where my bets are. I guess I shouldn't be surprised at how utterly clueless you are given your recent thread and inability to work out who's fighting in Feythabolis. This latest masterpiece of a post obviously means you also don't understand how POS work either. Might be worth staying off the forums and making clueless posts whilst you work out how this game you've some how managed to get an account in actually works. Blog
Arenis Xemdal Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 07:58:00 - [56] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Or you found out how much stront was in them ans you attacked them at the right time so your sad bastard brigade could attack them on christmass day. Conciddering your "win at all costs" attitude I know where my bets are. I suppose now would be a bad time to mention the STK-S director following the Dreadnaughts around, tweaking Strontium levels. Hmm, yes I think it would.. Oops, the casino just got richer. The truth is, the owners would rather place their bets on BoB not being able to field a Dreadnaught fleet on Christmas morning, than go with a time they know we can and rely on proper defense. If that is the extent of the faith they extend towards their fellow comrades, I'm sure the soon-to-be exiles will find better rewards for loyalty in Jita anyways.
Svett Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 08:30:00 - [57] Originally by: Oreh Anavrin Not everyone is in the US or celebrates christmas. I wager ASCN is in for a suprise :P I don't think anyone in ascn is surprised they are losing azn.
local Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.24 08:46:00 - [58] Originally by: Adam C Originally by: Fitz Chivalry (i) i know never to join a large mixed alliance again. (ii) i know to be much more careful about who I throw my lot in with (though several corps in ascn have surprised me with their application and coolness, top of which is probably Dragons Rage, who have been awesome in this conflict). (iii) we have whittled our corp down to a hardcore of very good and dependable guys that i look forward to flying with and can count on Good Post, actually one of the very few opinions in ASCN that i do respect, p.s. Insidious says hi o/ QFT, seems like guys starting to learn something...
ElCoCo KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.12.24 10:22:00 - [59] Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Originally by: ElCoCo How is this turkey shot (judging from the kb) is considered fun for ASCN is beyond me It isn't a lot of fun tbh. .............. and then some good stuff. Finaly some sensible post. Props to you I mean from an outsider's perspective, it becomes irritating to keep seeing things like "we drop like flies but we have fun at it"
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 10:33:00 - [60] Originally by: FlashmanUK Wasn't for insurance. Then why on earth Peacemakerone just died in less than 2 hours to a TAOSP tower in 2 scorps and a raven!!! I know Taosp are emo but that aint a mind controlling tower now is it "Lord Samaiel, Rise " BNC Vs CELES Video
Excellent Miner Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:15:00 - [61] "All i want for Xmas is my outpost back ......." I dont want a smart bomb, I want it to kill stupid people too.
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:29:00 - [62] As a neutral observer. What do the other neutrals think is on the cards next? My opinion is that BoB will take AZN, it may not be on Christmas Day, but it'll go down. And at that point I think it's clear that ASCN have been defeated. Will BoB offer ASCN terms? Will ASCN accept them? If they don't accept terms they'll haemorage members, if they do accept terms, they'll still lose members. Don't know what would be worse for ASCN, being BoB's tenants, or saying that they will continue to fight, even when they are losing lots of members. Pure speculation of course, I'm not involved, I'm just reading the soap opera as it develops.
Helen STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:33:00 - [63] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: FlashmanUK Wasn't for insurance. Then why on earth Peacemakerone just died in less than 2 hours to a TAOSP tower in 2 scorps and a raven!!! I know Taosp are emo but that aint a mind controlling tower now is it Guess you'd have to ask Peacemakerone. On a serious note STK got bored sat in AZN with BoB camping us in with bubbles, capitals and the usual side selection of ships. We decided that a breakout would have to occur looking at numbers in gang hit 15 we decided that with 80 odd people in local the odds were definately in our favour. We went outside twice in BS then went outside again in cruisers then sent a lone smartbomb bs to catch the BoB support. Shame we didn't kill many of you guys but the 15v15 contest never materialised. I mean we are in ASCN we obviously derive sick pleasure from dying.
Revelatia Clandestia	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:36:00 - [64] Originally by: Stamm If they don't accept terms they'll haemorage members, if they do accept terms, they'll still lose members. They already have, around 500+ individual members have left so far and EDF just announced they are leaving too.
Monahlott Minmatar	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:36:00 - [65] I admire peoples dedication.I dont/didnt buy into all this "Quake kiddie" crap but... ......some people really need to get out more.Go down the pub...go to a party...find a pretty girl and dance dance dance you saddos-Its xmas and the whole world is in party mode..for the love of god find something more important to do than play "space invaders 2006".
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:39:00 - [66] Originally by: Revelatia Originally by: Stamm If they don't accept terms they'll haemorage members, if they do accept terms, they'll still lose members. They already have, around 500+ individual members have left so far and EDF just announced they are leaving too. I did notice the drop in members. But I didn't know it was 500 individual members, are you sure? That's pretty cataclysmic. I assumed it was a corp or three leaving. From what I've seen on the forums EDF leaving ASCN might be a positive thing. In any case, the position that ASCN are in now... There's clearly some spirited people in ASCN, they're not all self centred short sighted carebears. Could they be satisfied being BoBs tenants? Or would it be enough for them that the people they felt dirty about sharing an alliance channel with are gone? And conversely, there's some industy minded people that want to build and expand their empire, they wouldn't be happy being BoB tenants, unless the deal was favourable, but likewise they may not be interested in guerilla warfare.
Revelatia Clandestia	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:50:00 - [67] No one really knows what the actual member 'count' is but it's estimated to be 1500 at it's height of just over 5000 'characters'. I should have said over 500+ characters have left. We were and still are a very alt heavy alliance. - From conversations I have seen I don't think any but the newer additions would be happy to be BoB slaves, especially with the way the war has been conducted by both BoB and us on a high level. It remains to be seen though whether that is even a BoB option as nothing constructive has been offered as far as I know, other than the usual forum propaganda. - Guerilla warfare - I think they'd welcome that to be honest, but would consider it little more than a VERY minor annoyance, if at all.
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:55:00 - [68] Originally by: Revelatia No one really knows what the actual member 'count' is but it's estimated to be 1500 at it's height of just over 5000 'characters'. I should have said over 500+ characters have left. We were and still are a very alt heavy alliance. - From conversations I have seen I don't think any but the newer additions would be happy to be BoB slaves, especially with the way the war has been conducted by both BoB and us on a high level. It remains to be seen though whether that is even a BoB option as nothing constructive has been offered as far as I know, other than the usual forum propaganda. - Guerilla warfare - I think they'd welcome that to be honest, but would consider it little more than a VERY minor annoyance, if at all. If BoB do intend to make an offer they'll be very careful about keeping silent until the offer is made, making ridiculous or no offers at all, and then bang, here comes a very reasonable offer. The best time to do that is surely when AZN falls. Clearly I'm armchair generaling here, but it's quiet today and unlike everybody else I know I seemed to have the sense to do my Christmas shopping last month, so I'm trundling along 0.0 in my non-stabbed hauler bored out of my little mind.
Alberta Gallente Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:12:00 - [69] Originally by: Stamm unlike everybody else I know I seemed to have the sense to do my Christmas shopping last month, so I'm trundling along 0.0 in my non-stabbed hauler bored out of my little mind. shakes fist and runs off to the shops
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:13:00 - [70] They had their chance to come to us Stamm. Very publically, they stuck their two fingers up at us. I guess the realisation now is that they should have used those two fingers to click click more ingame and less on the forums and they may have come out with something at the end of the war. It's not going to be a very merry christmas for the kids of ASCN. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
RedClaws Amarr Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:16:00 - [71] Originally by: Fitz Chivalry (ii) i know to be much more careful about who I throw my lot in with (though several corps in ascn have surprised me with their application and coolness, top of which is probably Dragons Rage, who have been awesome in this conflict). Thanks Fitz :D We from Dragon's Rage really appreciate this. Let's hope our paths continue to cross.
laotse Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:21:00 - [72] hmm and i was thinking we where over the kiddies stuf its something ascn and bob dont have to use imo it have no place in this game 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:47:00 - [73] Edited by: Stamm on 24/12/2006 14:48:25 Originally by: DB Preacher They had their chance to come to us Stamm. Very publically, they stuck their two fingers up at us. I guess the realisation now is that they should have used those two fingers to click click more ingame and less on the forums and they may have come out with something at the end of the war. It's not going to be a very merry christmas for the kids of ASCN. dbp Well, it all depends on ASCN how long it takes. Nobody seems to be denying that AZN will fall, so I'm taking it for granted it will fall. But there's no guarantee that ASCN will crumble at that point. And then BoB face the monotony of trying to stamp out ASCN POSs all over the area, dealing with lone wolf ASCN pilots who're basically out to grief any BoB they can find not in a fleet. Up until now it must have been (generally speaking) fun for BoB as they've rolled across ASCN space and come to their capital system, but once that's taken, and the other stuff is left to deal with, BoB may not have so much fun, and may lose the spirit they've clearly fought with so far in this campaign. Not to mention that with some corps leaving ASCN there's every chance that something that isn't working now can be made to work. I'm sure there's hundreds of pilots, maybe even over a thousand that are willing to bite the bullet and try to take on BoB if it's possible and there's enough people willing. They might find it easier to work together when all the clutter of the forum-posting non-combat people, the carebears, the "I'm only in ASCN for as long as it suits me, and I don't really care about them or the corp" people.. once they're gone then maybe ASCN will be left with a determined force of fighters. That's why I think BoB might now be thinking - and clearly I'd be a fool if I thought DB Preacher is going to admit it - that a reasonable offer might be worth tabling, if it doesn't compromise the victory conditions that BoB have in mind, and deals with all the less fun stuff afterwards. As for the two fingers that ASCN showed you, when they graciously allowed you to keep Fountain... well, I think that's already come back to bite them. Bear in mind this is only my opinion, and I'm in no way important anywhere, never mind the south. And no, other than RULE knocking down an ASCN POS that for some obscure reason they put down in our space, neither me nor RULE have been involved.
jjiimm	Posted - 2006.12.24 16:27:00 - [74] Go tell the Spartans We are here and we are waiting
slip66 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 17:04:00 - [75] Originally by: Helen Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: FlashmanUK Wasn't for insurance. Then why on earth Peacemakerone just died in less than 2 hours to a TAOSP tower in 2 scorps and a raven!!! I know Taosp are emo but that aint a mind controlling tower now is it Guess you'd have to ask Peacemakerone. On a serious note STK got bored sat in AZN with BoB camping us in with bubbles, capitals and the usual side selection of ships. We decided that a breakout would have to occur looking at numbers in gang hit 15 we decided that with 80 odd people in local the odds were definately in our favour. We went outside twice in BS then went outside again in cruisers then sent a lone smartbomb bs to catch the BoB support. Shame we didn't kill many of you guys but the 15v15 contest never materialised. I mean we are in ASCN we obviously derive sick pleasure from dying. I bet if you would have asked you would have gotten a 15v15.... Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
Ragnar Anchor Minmatar Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.24 17:21:00 - [76] After 3 months of never postin on the Eve-O forums as an ascn member as it relates to this war, you will have to forgive my past reticence and forgive also my forwardness. To all ascn members I say, it was fun, but remember that ideologies do not win wars, only dedication to those same ideologies will win wars...and lots of SP!
Krystal Waters Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 17:36:00 - [77] Originally by: Dianabolic for those that timed these pos to come out at this time says alot more about them than it does about us :) lol. nicely put.
Slowboat Interspace Trade Consortium	Posted - 2006.12.24 17:46:00 - [78] Originally by: slip66 I bet if you would have asked you would have gotten a 15v15.... Bzzzzz! Wrong answer.
Resipsa Loquitor Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 19:37:00 - [79] Originally by: Slowboat Originally by: slip66 I bet if you would have asked you would have gotten a 15v15.... Bzzzzz! Wrong answer. Hmmm . . . I'd like to hear the right answer then. Seems like a fair deal and one that many I flew with last night would have taken if made without deception and in the spirit of fun and fighting. If they would have ran we would have killed them. So, tell us what the answer should have been. siggy Res - It speaks for itself in a misspelled kind of way
Red Six Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 19:55:00 - [80] Originally by: Ragnar Anchor After 3 months of never postin on the Eve-O forums as an ascn member as it relates to this war, you will have to forgive my past reticence and forgive also my forwardness. To all ascn members I say, it was fun, but remember that ideologies do not win wars, only dedication to those same ideologies will win wars...and lots of SP! Skill points don't win wars. They don't lose wars either. What wins and loses wars is teamwork and leadership. If you have good teamwork with good leadership you win. You can have a fleet of 50 and outnumber your enemy 2 to 1 but if an idiot is leading them they will lose. You can have an excellent fleet commander and if the people following him don't do as he/she says they will lose. In the end it comes down to teamwork and leadership. Originally by: Eridu Fallen Upon closer inspection, that Caldari BS doesn't even look like it got hit with the ugly stick, it looks like it is the ugly stick.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 19:58:00 - [81] Originally by: Slowboat Originally by: slip66 I bet if you would have asked you would have gotten a 15v15.... Bzzzzz! Wrong answer. Ofc. Fights that included roughly same numbers always turned out to be pure slaughter. So instead improving quality, ASCN was working on improving quantity which had diminishing returns on quality. And look what end result is... -------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve. McGreedy
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.24 20:06:00 - [82] Do they know its christmas time at all? ok ok that was harsh, i dont hate mods.. as an apology the mod who shows the most wuv gets a free mercedes...
Dr Einkeisel Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 22:47:00 - [83] Been pointed out several times already, not everyone celebrates crimbo.
M4sterm1nd DarkStar 1	Posted - 2006.12.25 01:34:00 - [84] Originally by: Snatchz P.S. The reason i ask is that the kb numebrs are just gaudy... it's simple : When it started, many people actually did drop their barges and ratting fittings... two weeks after that, ppl got bored. Since then: A) noone gave a hoot B) noone gives a hoot C) prospects for future hootery don't look good. EDF is gone, CLS is gone, DS1 is gone, AXE is gone, and God only knows how many corps are FINALLY coming to the realisation that the lax attitude towards this whole BoB situation has cost them their space. I give it till new years. ASCN, in its current state, is the lesser son of greater sires. I'm gonna fill your hoo-hah with goofjuice! - Patton Oswalt
Liet Traep Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.25 06:35:00 - [85] Edited by: Liet Traep on 25/12/2006 06:46:09 Originally by: Stamm Originally by: Revelatia Originally by: Stamm If they don't accept terms they'll haemorage members, if they do accept terms, they'll still lose members. They already have, around 500+ individual members have left so far and EDF just announced they are leaving too. I did notice the drop in members. But I didn't know it was 500 individual members, are you sure? That's pretty cataclysmic. I assumed it was a corp or three leaving. From what I've seen on the forums EDF leaving ASCN might be a positive thing. In any case, the position that ASCN are in now... There's clearly some spirited people in ASCN, they're not all self centred short sighted carebears. Could they be satisfied being BoBs tenants? Or would it be enough for them that the people they felt dirty about sharing an alliance channel with are gone? And conversely, there's some industy minded people that want to build and expand their empire, they wouldn't be happy being BoB tenants, unless the deal was favourable, but likewise they may not be interested in guerilla warfare. When BoB and ASCn announced they're going to war I logged into eve and made a note of some alliance rankings. I assumed that Axe would be backing up ASCN so i took note of their numbers also. 9/28/2006 - Today ASCN 4993 - 3427 AXE 1402 - 1093 BOB 1605 - 1817 The numbers aren't completely accurate I'm sure. But they're what i got off of eve. Make of them what you will.

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