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Thomas Torquemada
Minmatar
Universal Peace Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.30 16:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Saint Bubba
I started pvp 8 days ago and finiding targets is quite easy I find... I fly a rifter solo in low sec and have 6 kills so far, 3 which are crusadres, one a zealot. Dont tell me its that hard since I started a week ago and I find it easy... You started ages ago and your finding it hard? 
just a quick question, what security rating are you, if your 8 kills still has you close to above security status 0 or just under its not as obvious as a -10 old character.
Any of your future targets may not be as easily available once your week old career becomes a few months old or longer and your -10, you stand out a bit more in the local window then.
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.12.30 17:58:00 -
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You know what's amusing? Over and over and over again pirates tell us how adaptable they are and how good they are at innovation and new tactics, and that it's everyone else who sucks.
And then we see stuff like this.
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Gix Firebrand
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Posted - 2006.12.30 18:44:00 -
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Other pirates have already adapted :D
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2006.12.30 19:38:00 -
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Empire GATECAMPING lowsec pirates got ONE kind of a target MOST of the time : the unprepared and unwilling one.
That is exactly the type of target you should NEVER be able to get MOST of in the first place, because it's NO challenge whatsoever and downright lame.
Now you have equal chances to catch prepared and unprepared targets, willing and unwilling ones.
So you went from a "noobganking ftw" situation to a situation where you have to WORK HARD for your kill.
Please tell me again, how or why should I "feel for you" ?
Move to 0.0 you lazy bunches and pirate THERE, where you HAVE the right tools to do it properly.
Or gring your secrating up and start missioning in highsec... what you were doing before was nothing more than PVE anyway, with the only difference being the destroyed ship was a player's, it almost never put up even the fight a NPC does.
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My skills | Mod/Rig stacknerfing explained |
GRANDDRAGONMAN
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Posted - 2006.12.30 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Thomas Torquemada
Originally by: Saint Bubba
I started pvp 8 days ago and finiding targets is quite easy I find... I fly a rifter solo in low sec and have 6 kills so far, 3 which are crusadres, one a zealot. Dont tell me its that hard since I started a week ago and I find it easy... You started ages ago and your finding it hard?
just a quick question, what security rating are you, if your 8 kills still has you close to above security status 0 or just under its not as obvious as a -10 old character.
Any of your future targets may not be as easily available once your week old career becomes a few months old or longer and your -10, you stand out a bit more in the local window then.
There is a really simple solution to this problem: don't let your sec drop to that level. Then yourtargets won't get scared off and all you really have to do is find a nice empty system to rat in.
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Thomas Torquemada
Minmatar
Universal Peace Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.30 20:55:00 -
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doesnt sound very pirate like, having to leave for ages to fix your sec to lose it all in a few kills, to go fix, etc etc etc
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
Yarek Balear
The Initiative
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Posted - 2006.12.30 21:14:00 -
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I actually think there's a few valid points made on this thread - if you weed out all the "omg, you're a whiner" types of thread...
I agree that in EVE's current form, WTZ causes less fights to occur in low sec, particularly less fights where a blob isn't involved. One corp proved that low sec gankage was indeed possible following the changes, but they had 20+ ships if I remember rightly.
All WTZ stops is fights occurring with people with no BMs. If I was fighting in a system before and it was my home area I'd have BMs all over the shop - meaning in those situations WTZ just reduced the hassle of selecting a BM.
I do think that other features in conjunction with WTZ have reduced the opportunity for solo/small group fights however. Increasing HPs, reduction of T2 damage, WTZ, instant local display, ironically the nerfing of WCS and ECM at the same time all mean one thing - it's harder to fly in solo and pick off an unsuspecting ship before their mates arrive or to jump someone when they've jumped through a gate and pick them off unless you have a good few mates.
I haven't played WoW, but I've spoken to a fair few people that have and they all seem to indicate a common theme - EVE is turning more into WoW than before. With ship customisation (through rigs), the increasing likelihood that someone who is in lowsec is looking for a fight to the point that PVP almost becomes pre-arranged it sounds more and more like it with every patch.
I love solo and small gang PVP and have to admit that I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with blob-warfare, the focus on alliance gangwar and fights for POSs... I watched an eve-vid the other day with a Titan blowing up 200+ ships. Interesting to watch? I guess so. Do I think that enhances the gameplay of EVE ? At best it might for one pilot out of 200+ that night.
I think there's a real danger with EVE that if they achieve the monstrous changes that they appear to be heading towards then eve will become a dull slug-fest of who has more p33nage than the other and it'll cease to retain its longer serving playerbase. I might be wrong and I haven't given up hope yet...
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Mr Jay
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.30 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: FooB2
not that i like to brag but im excellent at using the scanner.
Absolute Evil pwned my sig =( |
GRANDDRAGONMAN
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Posted - 2006.12.31 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Thomas Torquemada
doesnt sound very pirate like, having to leave for ages to fix your sec to lose it all in a few kills, to go fix, etc etc etc
So? It allows you to drop in unexpected on people in belts since you don't set off everyones alarms the second you enter system. I am perfectly willing to rat for a few days to be able to belt pirate successfully.
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Mr Jay
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.31 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: GRANDDRAGONMAN
Originally by: Thomas Torquemada
doesnt sound very pirate like, having to leave for ages to fix your sec to lose it all in a few kills, to go fix, etc etc etc
So? It allows you to drop in unexpected on people in belts since you don't set off everyones alarms the second you enter system. I am perfectly willing to rat for a few days to be able to belt pirate successfully.
And I suppose we'll all pod ourselves to get rid of our bounties, too?
Argh, pass me my mining lasers. 
Absolute Evil pwned my sig =( |
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GRANDDRAGONMAN
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Posted - 2006.12.31 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Jay
Originally by: GRANDDRAGONMAN
Originally by: Thomas Torquemada
doesnt sound very pirate like, having to leave for ages to fix your sec to lose it all in a few kills, to go fix, etc etc etc
So? It allows you to drop in unexpected on people in belts since you don't set off everyones alarms the second you enter system. I am perfectly willing to rat for a few days to be able to belt pirate successfully.
And I suppose we'll all pod ourselves to get rid of our bounties, too?
Argh, pass me my mining lasers.
Bounties are a tad less noticable than a big flashy red box.
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FooB2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.31 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: GRANDDRAGONMAN
Originally by: Mr Jay
Originally by: GRANDDRAGONMAN
Originally by: Thomas Torquemada
doesnt sound very pirate like, having to leave for ages to fix your sec to lose it all in a few kills, to go fix, etc etc etc
So? It allows you to drop in unexpected on people in belts since you don't set off everyones alarms the second you enter system. I am perfectly willing to rat for a few days to be able to belt pirate successfully.
And I suppose we'll all pod ourselves to get rid of our bounties, too?
Argh, pass me my mining lasers.
Bounties are a tad less noticable than a big flashy red box.
actually, its the bounty skull that appears in local next to your name, not the fact that you're -10. which is at default only set to have a flashing backgroun on the overview.
TEAM LULZ FOR HIRE
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Mr Jay
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.31 03:33:00 -
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You make a lot of sense for someone who's apparently drunk, Foob.
Shame I don't save MSN chat logs - cyb0r 4tw 
Absolute Evil pwned my sig =( |
vanBuskirk
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.31 03:33:00 -
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Diddums. Grow a pair and move to 0.0 where the targets can shoot back.
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Mr Jay
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.31 14:41:00 -
[75]
Originally by: vanBuskirk
Diddums. Grow a pair and move to 0.0 where the targets can shoot back.
Blobs 4tw 
Absolute Evil pwned my sig =( |
Rumorsky
Gallente
Panzershrek
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Posted - 2006.12.31 14:51:00 -
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It's not, But CCP has more Carebear then pirates.. and they want Carebears to join more then pirates.. So carebear wont lead :D its all about the money, but they do care what you think!
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Le Skunk
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 10:09:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 01/01/2007 10:09:48
Quote:
I love solo and small gang PVP and have to admit that I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with blob-warfare, the focus on alliance gangwar and fights for POSs.
I used to low sec pirate but havent had a chance since the patch. However i did get gate-ganked by a couple of command ships the other day. Is this not still a viable tactic especialy with rigs now manking tanking even better. Or have you tried mission runner scanning in low sec? Thats easier now.
Alternativly consider joining the Privateer corporation or bring your corp into the Privateer Alliance for a while. We currently have 28 wars running simaltanously against a mixture of some of the biggest alliances in EVE. 300+ pilots and increasing daily. Most of our best results have come from small gangs or solo like the gentleman above mentioned
Thousands of wartargets in High Sec. many unexpecting and no sentrys or concordooken to worry about. Occasinal blobs to dodge, plenty of haulers, miners and freighters to uppercut!
Even if you are -5.0 security rating it will still give you access to alliance pilots in low sec increasing your options.
SKUNK
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Shubael
Gallente
Ascent of Ages
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.01.01 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Shubael on 01/01/2007 11:39:33
Originally by: Jonny Damordred
Originally by: Absolute Evil
Direction of Noob Travel -------------------->
Where you used to camp. ---> (Gate) <---- Where you should camp now.
ROTFL!
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Shubael
Ascent of Ages
HR Manager
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