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Absolute Evil
Amarr
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.23 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: Absolute Evil on 23/12/2006 17:39:06
Is Piracy dead? NO! but its been seriously dented.
I agree that snipers were seriously overpowered and that has been dealt with.
But warp to ZERO is lame and I think the carebears have finally won, I wonder how long it will be till I start my attack in a belt and have to request to the other pilot if its ok to do so
Come on CCP this sucks buckets!!. And wars with warp to 0 is a joke.........
OH and what prompted me to say this was I was just looking at the map and seeing the number of ship kills in low sec and its sad viewing.
and iv ordered my own cheese to go with this whine!
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
Angelic Resolution
Arcanum Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.12.23 17:39:00 -
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Interdictor bubbles on gates (Lowsec) I believe can still be done. Bubbles on gates in 0.0. As stated in other threads, PvP isn't meant to be solo according to CCP although doesn't PvP stand for Player versus Player? Go to plural I guess =\
Adapt or change your profession, become a baiter ;)
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Absolute Evil
Amarr
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.23 17:41:00 -
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Thanks for the advise, but fear not im still getting plenty of kills its just the low sec is to easy now for the carebears, in my opinion. 
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.23 18:12:00 -
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Change your tactics or find another profession...
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2006.12.23 18:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Exogene
Change your tactics or find another profession...
well he would but all his tactics have been nerfed so he's pretty screwed now. might have to change that corp name now 
DE
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FooB2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.23 19:29:00 -
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even though i had no idea he posted this and nobodys probably gonna se it anyway because THERE IS NO TOPIC, but i will attempt to clarify.
you will have already guessed that were empire pirates. nothing wrong with that. we're good at what we do and were known quite well for doing it. The thing is, the oppertunity to get kills in lowsec has vastly dropped because even though there is infact a slight increase in people venturing into lowsec, they can simply run at the sight of that little skull next to someones name the second it jumps into local. not that i like to brag but im excellent at using the scanner. i jump into a system and usually i find people very quickly. except when i drop into the belt right on my target, i arrive only to see them warp off the direction of a gate or station. this used to be the case previously, but this time. once theyre gone theyre untouchable. at least before we had the option of getting them outside the station or gate.
were still getting by, and i realise warp to zero works both ways, i realise i now have instas all over low sec. but in my opinion, it wasnt worth the trade. personally, im banking heavily on getting interdictors to work in low sec, because then the balance will be shifted to a more equal medium. its not like its a tech I ship any idiot can fly frmo the get-go is it?
TEAM LULZ FOR HIRE
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.23 21:47:00 -
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Have you ever thought of waiting on the other side of the gate and wait for someone to jump in instead? Or ever thought of sending an alt scout ahead of you into a system? There are plenty of tactics, it is just that pirates like you are lazy ass bastards (no scanning is not a skill) and expect prey to drop on their laps. So instead of trying to find new/better tactics they come on the forums and start whining. Sad really
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Absolute Evil
Amarr
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.23 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Exogene
it is just that pirates like you are lazy ass bastards (no scanning is not a skill) and expect prey to drop on their laps. So instead of trying to find new/better tactics they come on the forums and start whining. Sad really
Actually I have a great tactic, am very capable of scanning my prey down, and am getting a nice amount of kills from it. And some say using an alt spy is lame. But I remember when I first played it was a good 4-6 months before most dare to seriously set foot in low sec. what fear is there now with warp to Zero.
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Curzon Dax
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.23 22:29:00 -
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Warp to 0 had nothing to do with carebears...get a grip.
That came about because of the terrible things that bookmarks were doing to the servers. Virtually everyone not in a rookie ship had insta-bookmarks to warp to 0 anyway. Whining is always going to happen, and whiners won't ever go away, but at LEAST whine about the right things.
Whining about CCP automating a player process to decrease server lag is just.... ....*shrugs*
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tiller
MAFIA
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.23 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Absolute Evil
Originally by: Exogene
it is just that pirates like you are lazy ass bastards (no scanning is not a skill) and expect prey to drop on their laps. So instead of trying to find new/better tactics they come on the forums and start whining. Sad really
Actually I have a great tactic, am very capable of scanning my prey down, and am getting a nice amount of kills from it. And some say using an alt spy is lame. But I remember when I first played it was a good 4-6 months before most dare to seriously set foot in low sec. what fear is there now with warp to Zero.
Finally watch your language
Switch to BC instead of BS. You can tackle most stuff and in a gang of 4 nothing much will live except shuttles and t1 frigs.
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FooB2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.23 22:31:00 -
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since when was scanning not a skill?
TEAM LULZ FOR HIRE
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Desiderious
Gallente
Catalyst Reaction
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.23 22:35:00 -
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Id like to point out that pirates get to warp to 0 as well....The main thing this did was cut off one end of the gate and stations which you can camp. However I would like to point out there are lazy poeple out there who still use autopilot and before this poeple used bookmarks.
-TRy going into low sec and using scanners to find and nail poeple. They will prob either be doing missions or ratting, so you will get them at a nice appopriate time.
-Camp a gate on opposite end w/ or w/o a warp bubble.
-Trap em! Iv seen a dozen or so wrecks that looked suspicious...ones that hadnt been looted and were 30km off from gate. I wonder...
-ETC
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Oink ^OO^
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.24 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Absolute Evil
Finally watch your language
Thought the stars would take care of that, guess I have a cloaking device on 
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Siriyana
Astrum Contract Services Group
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Posted - 2006.12.24 01:10:00 -
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Yeah, with warp to 0km, gate piracy is TOTALLY dead...
That's precisely why Snigg got me in Amamake at a gate. I mean, seriously, it just totally ruined it for them. In fact, the HP increase totally ruined piracy too... it took Snigg an extra whole 15 seconds to kill my 'rax.
Warp to 0 means nothing. Before warp to 0, the only people you were getting in low sec at gates were people dumb enough not to have or use instas, or people slowboat autopiloting it to the gate.
Well... now all you're getting is people slowboat autopiloting to the gate.
I don't really see much of a change here...
Just change your tactics. It's not just piracy that suffers. Think of all the poor merc corps that have to deal with warp to 0 when trying to camp war targets! Now we have to get them on system jump-in, rather than gate warp-in.
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Saint Bubba
Minmatar
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.
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Posted - 2006.12.24 11:11:00 -
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You can still use bubbles. I was in a gatecamp a few days ago and got a few kills... It aint impossible. Its just more challenging and more skillfull.. I started pvp and pirating a bit 2 days ago. So far have 1 solo kill, 3 or 4 in group and another three cases where had bc's and better down to struc and armor before they managed to escape.
Look around. Find some nice systems. I am loving pirating and pvping and damn I regret all those seconds I wasted mining now! :P
Long live the rifter! (Until I can fly my jag) :P
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Saint Bubba
Minmatar
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.
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Posted - 2006.12.24 11:13:00 -
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You can still use bubbles. I was in a gatecamp a few days ago and got a few kills... It aint impossible. Its just more challenging and more skillfull.. I started pvp and pirating a bit 2 days ago. So far have 1 solo kill, 3 or 4 in group and another three cases where had bc's and better down to struc and armor before they managed to escape.
Look around. Find some nice systems. I am loving pirating and pvping and damn I regret all those seconds I wasted mining now! :P
Long live the rifter! (Until I can fly my jag) :P
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korako kusakari
Caldari
House Lestat
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Posted - 2006.12.24 11:37:00 -
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ok deal yourself a side helping of cheese balls and foad
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Xtro 2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.24 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: Xtro 2 on 24/12/2006 11:59:00
With respect to those saying use bubbles, their great, yer they are my alts died in 1, but they dont work in empire low sec.
As for the use a different ship or scan properly or scout, well we do, just when your actual pirate character appears, their off, and gated away or docked, as mentioned before we could scan around and try and catch people at a gate or a station, now you cant.
As for catching people on jumpins, yer thats great and everything, but you need a fair few people to do that, a lot of our guys like doing the old jaws routine, floating around seeing what they can solo.
Were not lazy, we manage, we have adapted in so far as our b***s have been cut off, but you cant really adapt when theres only 1 option left for controlling a system, thats not adapting, thats being heavily crippled.
Like foob, i hope santa brings us dictor bubbles for crimbo.......... or easter.......... well soon(tm) at least.
On a different note were currently in a few lowsec wars, another pirate corp near our empty territory (god knows why their here tbh), but still trying to lockdown a system to get carebears, yer i see people having a problem with that, but currently were docked, staring at docked people, both sides know they cant really touch the other, theres no way for either team to control the systems. And no we cant use the old jump them on gatein because like any sensible person they travel in shuttles then swap ships.
Merry Crimbo btw.
Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman.
Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder typically |
Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Xtro 2
Edited by: Xtro 2 on 24/12/2006 11:59:00
As for catching people on jumpins, yer thats great and everything, but you need a fair few people to do that, a lot of our guys like doing the old jaws routine, floating around seeing what they can solo.
Were not lazy, we manage, we have adapted in so far as our b***s have been cut off, but you cant really adapt when theres only 1 option left for controlling a system, thats not adapting, thats being heavily crippled.
Obviously you never tried to catch someone at jump-in else you wouldn't talk such nonsense. All you need is 2 people or 2 characters. A scout and a decent pilot.
As for laziness i must disagree once again. Before warp to 0 you were relying on noobs not having bookmarks and not checking local. You were relying on the laziness/ignorance of others. Now how is that not being lazy and how can you call that a strategy. Simply you never had a strategy and now that CCP got rid of bookmarks, having no stragtegy hits you even harder.
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Distun
Sha Kharn Corp
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:49:00 -
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If the 'warp to 0' thing made you realize that EVE is a carebear heaven you're one of them.Thanks.
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.24 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Distun
If the 'warp to 0' thing made you realize that EVE is a carebear heaven you're one of them.Thanks.
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Absolute Evil
Amarr
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.24 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Distun
If the 'warp to 0' thing made you realize that EVE is a carebear heaven you're one of them.Thanks.
Well thanks for your comment and Admin type dudes you can kill this thread now coz all it attracts is morons like this.
AND WHERE ME PRESSY!! merry X-mas all |
Jonny Damordred
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.24 19:52:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Absolute Evil
Edited by: Absolute Evil on 23/12/2006 21:57:36
But warp to ZERO is lame and I think the carebears have finally won, I wonder how long it will be till I start my attack in a belt and have to request to the other pilot if its ok to do so
FFS, let me freaking draw you a diagram:
Direction of Noob Travel -------------------->
Where you used to camp. ---> (Gate) <---- Where you should camp now.
A lachesis with two Sensor Boosters and 4 Distruptors can easly cover the spawn area of a gate.
It really is not that freaking hard.
Cheers,
Jonny D.
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Gix Firebrand
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Posted - 2006.12.24 20:09:00 -
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LOL.
Yes life is so hard. Adapt or quit.
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Christopher Dalran
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Posted - 2006.12.24 20:56:00 -
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All it requires is a change of tactics, gone are the days of simply camping out at a gate and just webbing/shoot anyone that rolls by without any effort on your part. Fortunatly it now takes a little bit of work to actually catch people, to the point where its best to simply IGNORE targets that will not give any rewards (for example that 2 month old character in a Thorax is nolonger worth the effort to even think about).
It is now best to catch people on the exit side of a jump as opposed to the entrance side, what you need to do is place a scout in the systems leading to low sec systems and have them find targets and inform their gang members of when and where they are jumping. It would be a better idea to have someone that can warp cloaked as to not alert the target they are being watched.
The scout will inform you exactly what is jumping in and when it is jumping, it is then the job of anyone on the other side to web and scramble these people BEFORE they can warp away from the jump in point. Nobody jumps in at exactly the same spot however there is a set area where people exit within. You need enough people to cover this area and be able to jam anyone that warps in without having to move much. As a result faster more agile ships need to be used as opposed to simply all Battleships.
This now means that ganking will basically disappear as smaller more agile ships will be able to jump away before the ships bloccading the jump in point can catch and lock them down (some frigates with extremely high agility can warp away before they complety decloak).
It also means that low sec pirating with become more like pirating and not just unfocused pvp. DO you think pirates are going to waste their time and risk reprisal killing a Thorax with no cargo? NO!, they should be catching Industrial ships or larger ships that might be transporting something worthwhile.
You make alot more money while being able to actually keep a positive sec rating if you scout out and specifically target ships transporting alot of high value materials (oh yeah, you can make alot pirating and still keep a positive sec rating if you dont blow up frigates and just pod everyone for the sheer thrill of it, thats a murderer not a pirate). Believe it or not you actually get quite a few people in Freighters flying through low sec all by their lonesome selves and they take such a long time to warp away after exiting a jump that any competent group can catch them upon exit with minimal ships.
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Fto Cruise
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Posted - 2006.12.24 21:35:00 -
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The answer could be to remove the local chat channel, or for a pilot to only appear if he speaks. In addition, the maximum range of the onboard scanner needs to be reduced with basic and advanced skills being added to increase that range.
Warp to 0 has certainly hurt pvp and has turned some lowsec systems into a safe zone. You're not going to get any agreement from non-pirates, it really is far too easy for them now, and that's exactly how they like it, mining jaspet etc. with no risk whatsoever.
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Outa Rileau
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Posted - 2006.12.24 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Fto Cruise
The answer could be to remove the local chat channel, or for a pilot to only appear if he speaks. In addition, the maximum range of the onboard scanner needs to be reduced with basic and advanced skills being added to increase that range.quote]
oh god, shut up.
Pirates need local just as much as the carebears...
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Neon Genesis
Gallente
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2006.12.24 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 24/12/2006 22:03:16
I'm getting seriously sick of any negative threads being filled with people just shouting stupid whine and cheese jokes.
This is a discussion board, and the game isn't perfect.
Scanning takes a bit of time to get really quick at, and it's a great asset if you can use it well. Unfortunately if there is a station in system, you can warp to it at zero from a belt FAR quicker than anyone can get to your belt.
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Soporo
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Posted - 2006.12.24 23:51:00 -
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Quote:
(some frigates with extremely high agility can warp away before they complety decloak).
Which is the reason I keep my nanno'd CN Hookbill.
I dunno if Piracy in general took a big hit here, but it certainly made solo'ing both better and worse.
Better able to move around safely and rapidly and escape unfriendlies, less oportunities at the gates.
A gang can still camp the back side and whack everything coming through, its just more difficult.
Regardless, wt0 was a LAG reduction measure/insta removal reasons.
Just calm down and wait it out; most Devs I hear are pirates and PvP'ers, and sooner or later you will get your LowSec Dictors.
Assuming they can implement this without making it an utter ghost town... |
Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.25 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Christopher Dalran
This now means that ganking will basically disappear as smaller more agile ships will be able to jump away before the ships bloccading the jump in point can catch and lock them down (some frigates with extremely high agility can warp away before they complety decloak).
It also means that low sec pirating with become more like pirating and not just unfocused pvp. DO you think pirates are going to waste their time and risk reprisal killing a Thorax with no cargo? NO!, they should be catching Industrial ships or larger ships that might be transporting something worthwhile.
You make alot more money while being able to actually keep a positive sec rating if you scout out and specifically target ships transporting alot of high value materials (oh yeah, you can make alot pirating and still keep a positive sec rating if you dont blow up frigates and just pod everyone for the sheer thrill of it, thats a murderer not a pirate). Believe it or not you actually get quite a few people in Freighters flying through low sec all by their lonesome selves and they take such a long time to warp away after exiting a jump that any competent group can catch them upon exit with minimal ships.
Dude you peeps seriously need a few months down in 0.0 doing "real gate camping".
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Xtro 2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.25 01:59:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Exogene
Originally by: Xtro 2
Edited by: Xtro 2 on 24/12/2006 11:59:00
As for catching people on jumpins, yer thats great and everything, but you need a fair few people to do that, a lot of our guys like doing the old jaws routine, floating around seeing what they can solo.
Were not lazy, we manage, we have adapted in so far as our b***s have been cut off, but you cant really adapt when theres only 1 option left for controlling a system, thats not adapting, thats being heavily crippled.
Obviously you never tried to catch someone at jump-in else you wouldn't talk such nonsense. All you need is 2 people or 2 characters. A scout and a decent pilot.
As for laziness i must disagree once again. Before warp to 0 you were relying on noobs not having bookmarks and not checking local. You were relying on the laziness/ignorance of others. Now how is that not being lazy and how can you call that a strategy. Simply you never had a strategy and now that CCP got rid of bookmarks, having no stragtegy hits you even harder.
1) obviously i have tried it before, if you read my post it says theres 1 option remaining, the aforementioned catch gateins IS that option i mentioned.
2) regards to lazyness, again your wrong/misunderstanding, it wasnt just nubs without bm's, we had a chance on anyone, anywhere, stations, gates, roids, wherever, we COULD scout them and detect them going to or being near station, planet, moon X,Y,Z, now its useless info as they warp bang onto whatever object and vanish.
As for strategy we have oodles of the stuff, or did, and again see comment 1) your down to very few options indeed, if theres loads of options that ppl havent already mentioned name them, and dont just say adapt, thats no answer.
So far its option 1) Catch people gating in.
So what are options 2, 3, 4 and so on?
Im very interested in the masses of experts new postpatch battleplans, if its not the gatein routine which was done yonks ago but wasnt popular anyways.
Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman.
Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder typically |
Xtro 2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.25 02:04:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Jonny Damordred
Originally by: Absolute Evil
Edited by: Absolute Evil on 23/12/2006 21:57:36
But warp to ZERO is lame and I think the carebears have finally won, I wonder how long it will be till I start my attack in a belt and have to request to the other pilot if its ok to do so
FFS, let me freaking draw you a diagram:
Direction of Noob Travel -------------------->
Where you used to camp. ---> (Gate) <---- Where you should camp now.
A lachesis with two Sensor Boosters and 4 Distruptors can easly cover the spawn area of a gate.
It really is not that freaking hard.
Cheers,
Jonny D.
Sorry im not quite getting you here, youve mentioned yet again the ONE option, catch gate ins, weve said before its not new and its not hard, we want to know what else there is, because using that 1 rubbish method is a joke, are you telling me thats all thats left to do in empire lowsec as a pirate?
1 option, wheres your highly original option, you know the one we havent seen and heard and tried before over 3 years?
and dont give that sad excuse, "you do the crime do the time", because the crimes been the same for ages... kill ppl, get penaltys etc, its the time that keeps changing and kicking you in the face.
Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman.
Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder typically |
Xtro 2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.25 02:10:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Christopher Dalran
All it requires is a change of tactics, gone are the days of simply camping out at a gate and just webbing/shoot anyone that rolls by without any effort on your part. Fortunatly it now takes a little bit of work to actually catch people, to the point where its best to simply IGNORE targets that will not give any rewards (for example that 2 month old character in a Thorax is nolonger worth the effort to even think about).
It is now best to catch people on the exit side of a jump as opposed to the entrance side, what you need to do is place a scout in the systems leading to low sec systems and have them find targets and inform their gang members of when and where they are jumping. It would be a better idea to have someone that can warp cloaked as to not alert the target they are being watched.
The scout will inform you exactly what is jumping in and when it is jumping, it is then the job of anyone on the other side to web and scramble these people BEFORE they can warp away from the jump in point. Nobody jumps in at exactly the same spot however there is a set area where people exit within. You need enough people to cover this area and be able to jam anyone that warps in without having to move much. As a result faster more agile ships need to be used as opposed to simply all Battleships.
This now means that ganking will basically disappear as smaller more agile ships will be able to jump away before the ships bloccading the jump in point can catch and lock them down (some frigates with extremely high agility can warp away before they complety decloak).
It also means that low sec pirating with become more like pirating and not just unfocused pvp. DO you think pirates are going to waste their time and risk reprisal killing a Thorax with no cargo? NO!, they should be catching Industrial ships or larger ships that might be transporting something worthwhile.
You make alot more money while being able to actually keep a positive sec rating if you scout out and specifically target ships transporting alot of high value materials (oh yeah, you can make alot pirating and still keep a positive sec rating if you dont blow up frigates and just pod everyone for the sheer thrill of it, thats a murderer not a pirate). Believe it or not you actually get quite a few people in Freighters flying through low sec all by their lonesome selves and they take such a long time to warp away after exiting a jump that any competent group can catch them upon exit with minimal ships.
blah blah blah yeah we know how to scout and find people, we arent stupid, we have been playing for a little while you know, we do scout, we do even catch the odd loony. The problem is not everyone is stupid enough to NOT check local, great they dont bail when they see johnny random scout in local, great you ID their belt, your pirate char jumps in, then <insert great plan here> fails because they see the pirate and bail instantly, your scout infos bang on, or was 10 seconds ago just before they left the belt and docked..
But wait? whats that, you saw him just briefly as you appeared and he warped to Planet X, Moon 1, Station B, great lets follow. No wait hang on, hes warped to 0, hes docked, ah well that was fun.
As for making cash and geting industrials, yer wed do that anyways, but were pirates, we dont just get the money ships, your after terror, plain and simple, everything must die that is able to die (or ransomed), if we wanted some poxy haulers dead wed have empire wars nailing stupid alliance people in jita.
Positive sec rating and low sec pirate should not be used in the same sentance tbh.
Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman.
Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder typically |
Xtro 2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.25 02:19:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Xtro 2 on 25/12/2006 02:22:29
ill end this with my comments regarding peoples infinate wisdom, as with abs im bored with this flamefest.
If you check abs and myself we are not exactly new, anything mentioned here weve done, were slightly beyond the normal 2 monther moaning minnie wanting the game changed to suit them.
0.0 kills? yer we used to spend ages in derelik/providence ages ago nailing anything on gates. Yes blowing up gate ins and outs, following for many jumps etc, we DO know all this, kindly dont rant on like were 1 month old noobs who dont know the obvious.
Lowsec pirating? yer done that longer, again were not JUST lazy snipers, sniping was a break away hen the targets were thin, it wasnt great but hey it WAS something at the very least. Ganks, wars, ransoming, sniper kills, weve done the lot.
Mining? omg yes weve even done that old gem when we first started, to each their own i say.
Blob wars? oh yes been there as well, we used to play with the old xetic people and those nice DDC people and asociates, met plenty of fellow unscrupulous pirate corps, anti-pies that made us run like mad, weve been the old thorn in their sides of a fair few peoples etc, and it's been pretty good fun both ways/both sides.
When people see posts about pirates having the doggydoo end of the stick, please dont assume were their lazy mofos that havent done anything but eh easy way, and then jump on them in the forums, because i can assure you some have tried everything eve offers and do know of what they speak, lots have success, well great, the grass isnt always as greener for some.
Just because some arent "ingame famous" doesnt mean their opinions are worthless.
Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman.
Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder typically |
Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:20:00 -
[35]
This whole thread is worthless imo 
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Gix Firebrand
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:23:00 -
[36]
BTW, before you throw out noob corp comments, this is my main :D 10+ years of MMPORG experince, including UO.
So I say this with feeling, cry more noob.
Its adapt, mine or quit. I solo pirate. You want to cry to me about hard? Try solo piracy in a noob corp :P Everyone wants to kill you.
Really its a choice. Eithier you learn a new way or you vote with your wallet.
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Xtro 2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:54:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Exogene
This whole thread is worthless imo
from the retarded replys i see here, your bang on, honestly i should know better, dont know why i bother, or why anyone bothers, the forums are simplely grounds for people to rip other to bits, because they think their all "cool".
ah well, as always ill sit in the corner and stfu.
Merry Crimbo btw.
Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman.
Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder typically |
FooB2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:55:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Gix Firebrand
BTW, before you throw out noob corp comments, this is my main :D 10+ years of MMPORG experince, including UO.
So I say this with feeling, cry more noob.
Its adapt, mine or quit. I solo pirate. You want to cry to me about hard? Try solo piracy in a noob corp :P Everyone wants to kill you.
Really its a choice. Eithier you learn a new way or you vote with your wallet.
let me get this straight, you're actually saying that its harder to pirate in a noob corp? because then "everyone wants to kill you"? Were outlaws sherlock, and everyone wants to kill us anyway. the only difference there is that were not hiding from wardecs.
but hey, im sure you're the most awesomest PVPer in the world, let alone EVE right? i mean. you've played UO. thats GOT to be worth something when playing EVE.
TEAM LULZ FOR HIRE
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:05:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Xtro 2
we COULD scout them and detect them going to or being near station, planet, moon X,Y,Z, now its useless info as they warp bang onto whatever object and vanish.
Now talking about retarded replies...
Originally by: Xtro 2
As for strategy we have oodles of the stuff, or did, and again see comment 1) your down to very few options indeed, if theres loads of options that ppl havent already mentioned name them, and dont just say adapt, thats no answer.
So far its option 1) Catch people gating in.
So what are options 2, 3, 4 and so on?
Thought you were elite skilled pilots, figure it out yourself
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Keta Min
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:44:00 -
[40]
the whole point is, WTZ made it all more boring. there have been good suggestions for instas, like Digi's lowslot warp precision mods but CCP desided to take the easy way out. it removed engagement possibilities, made travel easier, removed the need to sacrifice cargo or combat power for travel setups or faster ships.
you can stop giving nublet "advices" on tactics. there are no new tactics. some just stopped working, others remained. i see talk about lowsec dictor bubbles coming in kali2 but i'm sceptical about that. we'll see.
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Celestal
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:59:00 -
[41]
interdicters in low sec ? now why would that ever happen ?.
With the recent changes it was made safer for the visitor to low sec , and lag issues were addresses . Contrary to a lot of the posters in this channel the idea of making it safer and attracting more low sec visitors was not simply to feed more easy kills to low sec "pirates" ( face it, altho these are a very vocal , sic , part of the community it is one of the smallest sectors of eve community ).
Now why would dicters be introduced ? . A properly bubbled gate would give a 90+ kill rate to ships jumping in ( and not using logoffski ). This would kill low sec travel dead in a couple of days and why would ccp who have been making it safer to try low sec suddenly reverse the trend and make low sec far more dangerous then it has ever been ? .
Interdicters/bubbles in low sec are the dream that low sec "pirates" have that makes them wake up with a damp patch , but that is all it ever will be .
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Keta Min
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.25 15:09:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Celestal
ccp who have been making it safer to try low sec
exactly.
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.25 15:22:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Keta Min
the whole point is, WTZ made it all more boring. there have been good suggestions for instas, like Digi's lowslot warp precision mods but CCP desided to take the easy way out. it removed engagement possibilities, made travel easier, removed the need to sacrifice cargo or combat power for travel setups or faster ships.
you can stop giving nublet "advices" on tactics. there are no new tactics. some just stopped working, others remained. i see talk about lowsec dictor bubbles coming in kali2 but i'm sceptical about that. we'll see.
You relied on noobs with no instas before warp to 0.
I ask you again, how is relying on "noobs with no instas" as targets a tactic?
Please enlighten me oh wise ones for that surely is not a tactic.
WTZ was introduced mainly to combat the server strain caused by millions of bookmarks. Besides that it just made low sec travel for noobs with no bookmarks safer nothing more nothing less. So basically you are whining because you cannot kill noobs, sad really. 
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Keta Min
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.25 15:28:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Keta Min on 25/12/2006 15:29:35
Originally by: Exogene
Originally by: Keta Min
the whole point is, WTZ made it all more boring. there have been good suggestions for instas, like Digi's lowslot warp precision mods but CCP desided to take the easy way out. it removed engagement possibilities, made travel easier, removed the need to sacrifice cargo or combat power for travel setups or faster ships.
you can stop giving nublet "advices" on tactics. there are no new tactics. some just stopped working, others remained. i see talk about lowsec dictor bubbles coming in kali2 but i'm sceptical about that. we'll see.
You relied on noobs with no instas before warp to 0.
I ask you again, how is relying on "noobs with no instas" as targets a tactic?
Please enlighten me oh wise ones for that surely is not a tactic.
WTZ was introduced mainly to combat the server strain caused by millions of bookmarks. Besides that it just made low sec travel for noobs with no bookmarks safer nothing more nothing less. So basically you are whining because you cannot kill noobs, sad really.
instas didn't work from any point in the system. also i often was the "noob with no instas" because they just werent needed.
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Gix Firebrand
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:22:00 -
[45]
Actually playing pre UO:R prepares you for EVE quite nicely :D
Best PvPer in the world? Never made that claim. However, I share in the WTZ struggle as well. But you don't see me crying on the forums.
Dictors in low sec will never happen. Cause all you'd see is bubbles at every gate. Thus, no one will enter low sec at all.
All they have to do is make low sec worth the risk, and people will flock. I'm all for moving kernite and omber into low sec. I'm for removing the omber spawn from the lvl 3 mission.
Low sec should be a place of danger yes, but a place worth the danger if you get away alive. Right now, WTZ plus no real benefits gives you low sec's current state.
But again, you have a choice. You can cry and whine, thus making you just like the "carebears" you hate. Or you can man up as a pirate and show your ingenuity and adapt.
Your choice.
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Slave 775
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.25 20:40:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Gix Firebrand
But again, you have a choice. You can cry and whine, thus making you just like the "carebears" you hate. Or you can man up as a pirate and show your ingenuity and adapt.
Your choice.
If you dont come to the Forums and complain about something you dont like. How should CCP know what we want?
Looks like whining on the Forums works for carebears and the usual clueless folk pretty good.
I absolutely hate warp to 0km.
Solo hunting with an interceptor in empire is over for me.
I noticed there is also a increase in shipsize of our wartargets in empire, because who cares how fast you are, if you can warp from gate to gate or station.
You now need a 20km scram on a frig to catch them on the other side of the gate, and thats a problem.
And please don't try to tell me everybody used instas in empire (im not talking about lowsec), thats total bull****.
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Dr Slice
MAFIA
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.25 22:18:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Dr Slice on 25/12/2006 22:19:35
Wow lot of angst in this thread but thats to be expected. To the Pre-Nerfed Tactics guys, I understand where you're coming from. As for the hate, you have to expect it, you're a Pirate Corp, and all outlaws so just for that the bears and wanna-be pirates will come out of the woodwork to flame you.
To the haters throwing around the words "noob" and "adapt": Do your research on a Corp and their pilots before flaming, otherwise it makes you look incompetent. The Pre-Nerfed guys are a solid bunch of Pirates with tons of kills under their belts.
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:34:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Keta Min
Edited by: Keta Min on 25/12/2006 15:29:35
Originally by: Exogene
instas didn't work from any point in the system. also i often was the "noob with no instas" because they just werent needed.
They do if you make one, also an insta dock bm that will work from anywhere in the system if placed properly
Originally by: Dr Slice
Edited by: Dr Slice on 25/12/2006 22:19:35
Wow lot of angst in this thread but thats to be expected. To the Pre-Nerfed Tactics guys, I understand where you're coming from. As for the hate, you have to expect it, you're a Pirate Corp, and all outlaws so just for that the bears and wanna-be pirates will come out of the woodwork to flame you.
To the haters throwing around the words "noob" and "adapt": Do your research on a Corp and their pilots before flaming, otherwise it makes you look incompetent. The Pre-Nerfed guys are a solid bunch of Pirates with tons of kills under their belts.
You slap the "hate stamp" on us, easy way out ain't it. I for one am a half-assed pirate myself. I don't care who they are.
Originally by: Slave 775
And please don't try to tell me everybody used instas in empire (im not talking about lowsec), thats total bull****.
Again proving my point of relying on people with no instas as targets and yet i have no answer from any respondents as to how that can be called "a tactic" sad
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Amiable Quinn
Minmatar
Lasleinur Production
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2006.12.26 15:37:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Amiable Quinn on 26/12/2006 15:52:44
Edited by: Amiable Quinn on 26/12/2006 15:38:54
If you are keen to non-consensual PvP I would recommend you avail yourselves of the numerous options:
1. Head to 0.0. I hear there is, on occasion, some PvP there. If you are clever, keep moving, and use a scout it is relatively easy to avoid gate-camps.
2. Wardec some corps or alliances (ala privateers. Big corp alliance = plenty of war targets.
3. Keep looking for the stray low-sec noob and gank/ransom them. Maintain group op gate camps with a dedicated tank. I believe tiller has some terrific threads describing how this can be done.
Now I understand that all of the above activities smack of:
1. Effort and/or
2. The possibility that you may lose.
So far, all that I have gotten from this post is ôboo-hoo ganking noobs is harder.ö Anyone with half a brain had instas to stations from anywhere in a system (and instas to gates from those stations), and had them well before warp to 0 was implemented. Those that didnÆt are probably the ones who wonÆt bother warping out today. Nothing has changed except the setup time for ratting/mining in a system going from 10-20 minutes to 0.
BTW: On this "look how long they have been in the game, they must know what they are talking about" attitudeà
No.
Time in game does not equate to an understanding of game design. I have been in plenty of games where 3-4 year veterans consistently spout inanities.
Number of kills also do NOT equate to game skill or experience. If that were the case Ginger Magician would be feared as the greatest pirate that ever lived, instead of a joke who spends his times popping 2 day old frigs.
I feel your pain, but if you put even a modicum of effort forward there are plenty of PvP opportunities in this game.
Happy Holidays.
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Gesturation
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Posted - 2006.12.26 18:08:00 -
[50]
Gatecamping pirates aren't the only ones who have been hit hard by the patches.
Train astrometrics, find a low-sec system with good agents...
Harass the poor little missionrunners there.
Find a low-sec system with no stations but decent ore and a station one jump off, lock down its gates, you can usually pick people off this way.
Go wardec a huge corp and sit in jita.
etc. Maybe a bit more effort, but sometimes you gotta put forth effort to have fun :-p
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Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.26 18:26:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Angelic Resolution
Interdictor bubbles on gates (Lowsec) I believe can still be done. Bubbles on gates in 0.0. As stated in other threads, PvP isn't meant to be solo according to CCP although doesn't PvP stand for Player versus Player? Go to plural I guess =\
Adapt or change your profession, become a baiter ;)
Interdictors have never been able to drop bubbles in lowsec just as you cannot anchor bubbles either.
As for warp to zero being a problem just tank the sentries like alot of the reputable pirates do and warpscramble ships after they decloak from jumping in. It's not that hard and alot of PPL have been doing it for years.
Also with scanning being much more easier and quicker why not ry the lowsec mission runners if you want to pirate. Again I know ppl who are doing it with fantastic results and even those who did it pre-revelations when it was slower.
In summary I think more PPL are using lowsec now than before as they dont worry so much aboput travelling through lowsec without instas. It's a pirates paradise at the moment if you are prepared to work a little bit rather than just sit 200km from the gate with loads of sensor-boosters and stabs in the lowslots.
This patch has sorted the men from the boys! Nice work CCP.
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Rman
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Posted - 2006.12.26 19:10:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Fto Cruise
The answer could be to remove the local chat channel, or for a pilot to only appear if he speaks. Quote:
I like this idea. Anyone know why something like this has not been done already?
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2006.12.26 19:29:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Rman
Originally by: Fto Cruise
The answer could be to remove the local chat channel, or for a pilot to only appear if he speaks. Quote:
I like this idea. Anyone know why something like this has not been done already?
Well it seems my good man that without local a solo pirate would never know what he's up against also local provides valuable information such as a random jump in local either means 2 things 1. Ganksquad or 2. hauler escort
Sig Nerf - Cortes
I declare war on ISD!
You don't stand a chance  -Karl
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Xtro 2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.26 23:07:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Xtro 2 on 26/12/2006 23:08:10
the Pirate Coalition guys have themselves a nice if risky system for themselves and others, its just got to be a pain to us all relying on 1 method for your ingame career, im probably only irritated because my ingame freedom is being axed every patch, if i adapt now and join the bandwagon (weve done this before in 0.0 as have plenty others), and worse yet rely on it, will it change/get nerfed.
So far the answer seems to be a yes of course it will.
To be fair i wouldnt mind all the choking of that career if all the penaltys you get with the job came with something good for us as a result of our bad status, if -10 meant something more than just a badge of "ive killed people", atm all it does is try to deter you from that career.
Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman.
Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder typically |
Veetor
Gallente
Acme Manufacturing
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Posted - 2006.12.29 21:24:00 -
[55]
Get rid of 'show pilots in space' pods killed and ships killed is newsworthy and should stay. make local channel count voluntary. Then you'll find Acme out there with a decent mining op. We need 4 uneventful ones to afford the 5th catastrophe:) Just like the old days with 8000 concurrent players and 5000 systems. We cant set up for 3 hrs anywhere in low sec or 0.0 anymore.
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Anferney
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Posted - 2006.12.30 03:44:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Xtro 2
To be fair i wouldnt mind all the choking of that career if all the penaltys you get with the job came with something good for us as a result of our bad status, if -10 meant something more than just a badge of "ive killed people", atm all it does is try to deter you from that career.
Why should it do something other than act as a warning? It makes no sense for it to do anthing other than that. A low sec rating means you kill people. Get a high enough secstatus and people get less antsy and make it easier to get prey in the belts. Sure, that -10 is a mark of honor, but it also makes getting kills that much harder, as it should since you should be a known threat if you have acheived outlaw status. |
Gix Firebrand
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Posted - 2006.12.30 04:45:00 -
[57]
It just forces you to play smarter.
I truly believe in the coming patches, CCP will make low sec worth being in. That will bring targets like never before.
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Countessa
Minmatar
LEGI0N
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Posted - 2006.12.30 09:26:00 -
[58]
.... Ok my 2p worth....
Absolute Evil for President of Eve all the rest of you tarts just dont get it so hush up.
He is not saying there is NO other options he is saying that before WTZ there was a much greater chance of catching people, and that WTZ has drastically reduced what people can do to remove the ever growing inflation of Eve down to a normal level.
People need to lose ships and yes it sux when its you but if there is no Isk sink like the job AE & Co do (and they do it well) then every1 will have 100 bizzillion isk and a civilian shield booster will take you 3 months to save up for.
WTZ is effectivly taking away more then pirates sniping at gates, it also removes any1 from fighting an effective empire war as now you can see war targets in local (yes i know this works for prey and predator) you just hit anything warp too it and either dock or jump through the gate.
Yes people can move to 0.0 thats an option im sure alot are thinking about but not every1 wants to end up fighting 50 man fleets some people still enjoy the small 'wolf' pack tactics of say 2-3 people.
Anyways like i say at the begining AE is not saying there is nothing else to do now but it does limit what is left.
Berneh > im gonna *snip* myself blind in a sec, im just printing a pic of siobhan then im off to bed
SuperJonny > lolz
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Saint Bubba
Minmatar
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.
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Posted - 2006.12.30 15:32:00 -
[59]
I started pvp 8 days ago and finiding targets is quite easy I find... I fly a rifter solo in low sec and have 6 kills so far, 3 which are crusadres, one a zealot. Dont tell me its that hard since I started a week ago and I find it easy... You started ages ago and your finding it hard?
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Absolute Evil
Amarr
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.30 16:21:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Saint Bubba
I started pvp 8 days ago and finiding targets is quite easy I find... I fly a rifter solo in low sec and have 6 kills so far, 3 which are crusadres, one a zealot. Dont tell me its that hard since I started a week ago and I find it easy... You started ages ago and your finding it hard?
Countessa put it correctly, and tbh I dont even know why im bothering to reply to you, once the target has entered warp its game over.
Yes understood you can have a little party waiting for them on the otherside of the gate(as long as it still low sec) and yes they could have had insta's but not when they're new to your system, there was a chance to hunt them down.
Now its insta's to all, kind of poor game play imo. Many a time I've gone after a target and taken on them and station guns. |
Thomas Torquemada
Minmatar
Universal Peace Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.30 16:48:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Saint Bubba
I started pvp 8 days ago and finiding targets is quite easy I find... I fly a rifter solo in low sec and have 6 kills so far, 3 which are crusadres, one a zealot. Dont tell me its that hard since I started a week ago and I find it easy... You started ages ago and your finding it hard?
just a quick question, what security rating are you, if your 8 kills still has you close to above security status 0 or just under its not as obvious as a -10 old character.
Any of your future targets may not be as easily available once your week old career becomes a few months old or longer and your -10, you stand out a bit more in the local window then.
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.12.30 17:58:00 -
[62]
You know what's amusing? Over and over and over again pirates tell us how adaptable they are and how good they are at innovation and new tactics, and that it's everyone else who sucks.
And then we see stuff like this.
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Gix Firebrand
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Posted - 2006.12.30 18:44:00 -
[63]
Other pirates have already adapted :D
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2006.12.30 19:38:00 -
[64]
Empire GATECAMPING lowsec pirates got ONE kind of a target MOST of the time : the unprepared and unwilling one.
That is exactly the type of target you should NEVER be able to get MOST of in the first place, because it's NO challenge whatsoever and downright lame.
Now you have equal chances to catch prepared and unprepared targets, willing and unwilling ones.
So you went from a "noobganking ftw" situation to a situation where you have to WORK HARD for your kill.
Please tell me again, how or why should I "feel for you" ?
Move to 0.0 you lazy bunches and pirate THERE, where you HAVE the right tools to do it properly.
Or gring your secrating up and start missioning in highsec... what you were doing before was nothing more than PVE anyway, with the only difference being the destroyed ship was a player's, it almost never put up even the fight a NPC does.
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My skills | Mod/Rig stacknerfing explained |
GRANDDRAGONMAN
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Posted - 2006.12.30 20:14:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Thomas Torquemada
Originally by: Saint Bubba
I started pvp 8 days ago and finiding targets is quite easy I find... I fly a rifter solo in low sec and have 6 kills so far, 3 which are crusadres, one a zealot. Dont tell me its that hard since I started a week ago and I find it easy... You started ages ago and your finding it hard?
just a quick question, what security rating are you, if your 8 kills still has you close to above security status 0 or just under its not as obvious as a -10 old character.
Any of your future targets may not be as easily available once your week old career becomes a few months old or longer and your -10, you stand out a bit more in the local window then.
There is a really simple solution to this problem: don't let your sec drop to that level. Then yourtargets won't get scared off and all you really have to do is find a nice empty system to rat in.
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Thomas Torquemada
Minmatar
Universal Peace Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.30 20:55:00 -
[66]
doesnt sound very pirate like, having to leave for ages to fix your sec to lose it all in a few kills, to go fix, etc etc etc
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
Yarek Balear
The Initiative
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Posted - 2006.12.30 21:14:00 -
[67]
I actually think there's a few valid points made on this thread - if you weed out all the "omg, you're a whiner" types of thread...
I agree that in EVE's current form, WTZ causes less fights to occur in low sec, particularly less fights where a blob isn't involved. One corp proved that low sec gankage was indeed possible following the changes, but they had 20+ ships if I remember rightly.
All WTZ stops is fights occurring with people with no BMs. If I was fighting in a system before and it was my home area I'd have BMs all over the shop - meaning in those situations WTZ just reduced the hassle of selecting a BM.
I do think that other features in conjunction with WTZ have reduced the opportunity for solo/small group fights however. Increasing HPs, reduction of T2 damage, WTZ, instant local display, ironically the nerfing of WCS and ECM at the same time all mean one thing - it's harder to fly in solo and pick off an unsuspecting ship before their mates arrive or to jump someone when they've jumped through a gate and pick them off unless you have a good few mates.
I haven't played WoW, but I've spoken to a fair few people that have and they all seem to indicate a common theme - EVE is turning more into WoW than before. With ship customisation (through rigs), the increasing likelihood that someone who is in lowsec is looking for a fight to the point that PVP almost becomes pre-arranged it sounds more and more like it with every patch.
I love solo and small gang PVP and have to admit that I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with blob-warfare, the focus on alliance gangwar and fights for POSs... I watched an eve-vid the other day with a Titan blowing up 200+ ships. Interesting to watch? I guess so. Do I think that enhances the gameplay of EVE ? At best it might for one pilot out of 200+ that night.
I think there's a real danger with EVE that if they achieve the monstrous changes that they appear to be heading towards then eve will become a dull slug-fest of who has more p33nage than the other and it'll cease to retain its longer serving playerbase. I might be wrong and I haven't given up hope yet...
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Mr Jay
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.30 22:50:00 -
[68]
Originally by: FooB2
not that i like to brag but im excellent at using the scanner.
Absolute Evil pwned my sig =( |
GRANDDRAGONMAN
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Posted - 2006.12.31 00:10:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Thomas Torquemada
doesnt sound very pirate like, having to leave for ages to fix your sec to lose it all in a few kills, to go fix, etc etc etc
So? It allows you to drop in unexpected on people in belts since you don't set off everyones alarms the second you enter system. I am perfectly willing to rat for a few days to be able to belt pirate successfully.
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Mr Jay
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.31 01:35:00 -
[70]
Originally by: GRANDDRAGONMAN
Originally by: Thomas Torquemada
doesnt sound very pirate like, having to leave for ages to fix your sec to lose it all in a few kills, to go fix, etc etc etc
So? It allows you to drop in unexpected on people in belts since you don't set off everyones alarms the second you enter system. I am perfectly willing to rat for a few days to be able to belt pirate successfully.
And I suppose we'll all pod ourselves to get rid of our bounties, too?
Argh, pass me my mining lasers. 
Absolute Evil pwned my sig =( |
GRANDDRAGONMAN
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Posted - 2006.12.31 01:39:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Mr Jay
Originally by: GRANDDRAGONMAN
Originally by: Thomas Torquemada
doesnt sound very pirate like, having to leave for ages to fix your sec to lose it all in a few kills, to go fix, etc etc etc
So? It allows you to drop in unexpected on people in belts since you don't set off everyones alarms the second you enter system. I am perfectly willing to rat for a few days to be able to belt pirate successfully.
And I suppose we'll all pod ourselves to get rid of our bounties, too?
Argh, pass me my mining lasers.
Bounties are a tad less noticable than a big flashy red box.
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FooB2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.31 02:38:00 -
[72]
Originally by: GRANDDRAGONMAN
Originally by: Mr Jay
Originally by: GRANDDRAGONMAN
Originally by: Thomas Torquemada
doesnt sound very pirate like, having to leave for ages to fix your sec to lose it all in a few kills, to go fix, etc etc etc
So? It allows you to drop in unexpected on people in belts since you don't set off everyones alarms the second you enter system. I am perfectly willing to rat for a few days to be able to belt pirate successfully.
And I suppose we'll all pod ourselves to get rid of our bounties, too?
Argh, pass me my mining lasers.
Bounties are a tad less noticable than a big flashy red box.
actually, its the bounty skull that appears in local next to your name, not the fact that you're -10. which is at default only set to have a flashing backgroun on the overview.
TEAM LULZ FOR HIRE
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Mr Jay
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.31 03:33:00 -
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You make a lot of sense for someone who's apparently drunk, Foob.
Shame I don't save MSN chat logs - cyb0r 4tw 
Absolute Evil pwned my sig =( |
vanBuskirk
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.31 03:33:00 -
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Diddums. Grow a pair and move to 0.0 where the targets can shoot back.
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Mr Jay
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.31 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: vanBuskirk
Diddums. Grow a pair and move to 0.0 where the targets can shoot back.
Blobs 4tw 
Absolute Evil pwned my sig =( |
Rumorsky
Gallente
Panzershrek
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Posted - 2006.12.31 14:51:00 -
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It's not, But CCP has more Carebear then pirates.. and they want Carebears to join more then pirates.. So carebear wont lead :D its all about the money, but they do care what you think!
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Le Skunk
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 10:09:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 01/01/2007 10:09:48
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I love solo and small gang PVP and have to admit that I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with blob-warfare, the focus on alliance gangwar and fights for POSs.
I used to low sec pirate but havent had a chance since the patch. However i did get gate-ganked by a couple of command ships the other day. Is this not still a viable tactic especialy with rigs now manking tanking even better. Or have you tried mission runner scanning in low sec? Thats easier now.
Alternativly consider joining the Privateer corporation or bring your corp into the Privateer Alliance for a while. We currently have 28 wars running simaltanously against a mixture of some of the biggest alliances in EVE. 300+ pilots and increasing daily. Most of our best results have come from small gangs or solo like the gentleman above mentioned
Thousands of wartargets in High Sec. many unexpecting and no sentrys or concordooken to worry about. Occasinal blobs to dodge, plenty of haulers, miners and freighters to uppercut!
Even if you are -5.0 security rating it will still give you access to alliance pilots in low sec increasing your options.
SKUNK
Privateers Corporation is recruting pilots. Privateer Alliance is recruiting corporations. Evemail me for details |
Shubael
Gallente
Ascent of Ages
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.01.01 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Shubael on 01/01/2007 11:39:33
Originally by: Jonny Damordred
Originally by: Absolute Evil
Direction of Noob Travel -------------------->
Where you used to camp. ---> (Gate) <---- Where you should camp now.
ROTFL!
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Ascent of Ages
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