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Kitty Qiao Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2015.10.05 19:42:48 - [1] - Quote I've done some reading about corps and alliances in EVE and their history and am left wondering. Who would you all say are the good guys in the current game today? Is their a strong corp/alliance that is in opposition to The Imperium/CODE/Goons etc? If the for mentioned corp/alliances are not seen by the general player base as the bad guys in the game then what are they or who is?
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1540	Posted - 2015.10.05 19:51:08 - [2] - Quote EvE is a sandbox full of kids ... the bad guy is defined by the inherent principles of a sandbox, destroy somebody's sand castle, build the highest, best looking sand castle, use the priciest tools, have more buddies, etc. You get the point? I'm my own NPC alt.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 12293	Posted - 2015.10.05 19:54:15 - [3] - Quote <-----mercanary ,pay me enough isk and I will be the good guy. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Kitty Qiao Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2015.10.05 20:01:03 - [4] - Quote Tipa Riot wrote: EvE is a sandbox full of kids ... the bad guy is defined by the inherent principles of a sandbox, destroy somebody's sand castle, build the highest, best looking sand castle, use the priciest tools, have more buddies, etc. You get the point? Yes, Tipa I get the point but my question remains unanswered. Who are known to be the good guys protecting others sand castles and waging war against those that aim to destroy them?
Kitty Qiao Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2015.10.05 20:02:29 - [5] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: <-----mercanary ,pay me enough isk and I will be the good guy. Is this profitable for you? Being good? What is the ISK per hour on being an active mercenary?
Thierry Orlenard Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2015.10.05 20:03:26 - [6] - Quote Kitty Qiao wrote: Tipa Riot wrote: EvE is a sandbox full of kids ... the bad guy is defined by the inherent principles of a sandbox, destroy somebody's sand castle, build the highest, best looking sand castle, use the priciest tools, have more buddies, etc. You get the point? Yes, Tipa I get the point but my question remains unanswered. Who are known to be the good guys protecting others sand castles and waging war against those that aim to destroy them? Aside from a few individuals who RP being against CODE for the purpose of bringing more PvP to hisec, nobody. It's every man for himself here -- or hire a merc to fight for you.
BearThatCares Schneckt 2	Posted - 2015.10.05 20:07:25 - [7] - Quote Kitty Qiao wrote: Tipa Riot wrote: EvE is a sandbox full of kids ... the bad guy is defined by the inherent principles of a sandbox, destroy somebody's sand castle, build the highest, best looking sand castle, use the priciest tools, have more buddies, etc. You get the point? Yes, Tipa I get the point but my question remains unanswered. Who are known to be the good guys protecting others sand castles and waging war against those that aim to destroy them? There aren't really any good guys. Nearly every corporation has kicked down someones sandcastle for some reason or another. It's only a game, so why not? Schneckt is recruiting newbros and other dank pilots! Come shoot ships & have fun No drama, just memes Make sick ISK in faction warfare
Paranoid Loyd 7096	Posted - 2015.10.05 20:10:30 - [8] - Quote There is no bad(black) or good(white) in EVE, only shades of gray. To some I am the epitome of evil, to others I am one of the most helpful people around. Just depends on which side of the anti-matter you end up on and how you respond to it after the fact if you end up on the wrong end. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 12293	Posted - 2015.10.05 20:15:54 - [9] - Quote Kitty Qiao wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: <-----mercanary ,pay me enough isk and I will be the good guy. Is this profitable for you? Being good? What is the ISK per hour on being an active mercenary? being a merc? yeah i get by. only "good" when paid to be so once in blue moon really. isk/ph is something like an old man pees, some times in drip and drabs, sometimes not at all, sometimes unexpectedly all at once. Kitty Qiao wrote: Tipa Riot wrote: EvE is a sandbox full of kids ... the bad guy is defined by the inherent principles of a sandbox, destroy somebody's sand castle, build the highest, best looking sand castle, use the priciest tools, have more buddies, etc. You get the point? Yes, Tipa I get the point but my question remains unanswered. Who are known to be the good guys protecting others sand castles and waging war against those that aim to destroy them? Mercenary's, you just described a "defence contract" Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Kirk Ernaga Arbiters of the Void Advent of Fate 11	Posted - 2015.10.05 20:16:34 - [10] - Quote Kitty Qiao wrote: I've done some reading about corps and alliances in EVE and their history and am left wondering. Who would you all say are the good guys in the current game today? Is their a strong corp/alliance that is in opposition to The Imperium/CODE/Goons etc? If the for mentioned corp/alliances are not seen by the general player base as the bad guys in the game then what are they or who is? Hard to say. I agree its all a matter of perspective. For example by your standards proviblock might the good guys even if they aren't by mine.
Thierry Orlenard Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2015.10.05 20:18:21 - [11] - Quote Kirk Ernaga wrote: Kitty Qiao wrote: I've done some reading about corps and alliances in EVE and their history and am left wondering. Who would you all say are the good guys in the current game today? Is their a strong corp/alliance that is in opposition to The Imperium/CODE/Goons etc? If the for mentioned corp/alliances are not seen by the general player base as the bad guys in the game then what are they or who is? Hard to say. I agree its all a matter of perspective. For example by your standards proviblock might the good guys even if they aren't by mine. But eww, Amarr.
BirdStrike State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 20:27:43 - [12] - Quote There is only one. Chribba.
Memphis Baas 677	Posted - 2015.10.05 20:28:26 - [13] - Quote Your corp is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys. Even the Goons, if you actually join them and are decent at the game, turn out to be very nice, normal people, who will have your back. Being a game, corps and alliances fight each other because it's fun, not because of economics, moral or religious issues, or whatever. So, I mean, technically there is no "evil"; just actions that the game allows, and actions that the game does not allow. Thus, your circle of friends / corp / alliance is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys.
Kitty Qiao Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2015.10.05 20:34:23 - [14] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Your corp is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys. Even the Goons, if you actually join them and are decent at the game, turn out to be very nice, normal people, who will have your back. Being a game, corps and alliances fight each other because it's fun, not because of economics, moral or religious issues, or whatever. So, I mean, technically there is no "evil"; just actions that the game allows, and actions that the game does not allow. Thus, your circle of friends / corp / alliance is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys. Interesting. Thank you.
Ka'Narlist Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 412	Posted - 2015.10.05 20:58:39 - [15] - Quote There is only one group that really are the good guys in eve and luckily for you they are recruiting www.dredditisrecruiting.com
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 831	Posted - 2015.10.05 21:00:02 - [16] - Quote Like other's have said this game is not so much a black and white game with clear good guys and bad guys. It's actually much more realistic. It's a game full of individuals that do things for their own reasons. That being said there are some people that role play being "the good guys" in a sense. In the region of Providence there are people that police the region with rules somewhat similar to high sec. They claim that they are reclaiming Provi for the glory of the Amarr empire. So if you want to RP being the good guy that might be an option. In the end where all just a bunch of humans playing a video game so no corp or alliance is without it's good sides and bad sides. I'm just saying that if you want to fight the good fight and not just fight over space for the sake of fighting over space then maybe NRDS gameplay is for you.
Valerian STA Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2015.10.05 23:28:25 - [17] - Quote There's the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi
Sabriz Adoudel Black Hydra Consortium. 5390	Posted - 2015.10.05 23:48:25 - [18] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Your corp is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys. Even the Goons, if you actually join them and are decent at the game, turn out to be very nice, normal people, who will have your back. Being a game, corps and alliances fight each other because it's fun, not because of economics, moral or religious issues, or whatever. So, I mean, technically there is no "evil"; just actions that the game allows, and actions that the game does not allow. Thus, your circle of friends / corp / alliance is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys. This. EVE is a competitive game. Even if the effect is too small to measure, your gain is everyone else's loss. If you suddenly gained a quarter trillion ISK (quite a lot, but there's lots of players with ten times that amount or more), any move you make to spend it will change the game economy considerably. I personally caused a noticeable gamewide increase in the cost of tech two invention just by spending 6 billion ISK stockpiling decryptors - every time you buy a tech 2 module, it's (very slightly) more expensive because of me. There is no good or bad in game. There's plenty out of game (which is why some of the biggest e-assholes in game, people like me, chipped in to raise a fair amount in the Nepal charity fundraiser event CCP ran a while back). Listen to the trailer from the Inferno expansion a few years back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kED11aGobUk . The first minute of it has an in-universe character talking about morality in EVE. I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
Memphis Baas 678	Posted - 2015.10.06 01:45:01 - [19] - Quote Also, there's no time to check, or chat with the guy to figure out motives; by the time you chat he'll kill you, or escape. Your corp is green (in the overview), your allies are blue, and the enemy is red. You shoot at all the red, and you won't have time to check whether that's the veteran who really hates you and started the war, or some newbie they recruited who just happened to be in the wrong place. There's no time to check. You shoot, hopefully you kill, and if it's the newbie then you just did him/her a favor by teaching some PVP tactics that they can try to figure out, emulate, or counter. Also, some adrenaline rush, maybe even some fun; maybe he had you pinned down with warp disruptors for a full minute before you managed to kill him and his team.
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 5427	Posted - 2015.10.06 02:01:21 - [20] - Quote "Everything is relative." - Einstein Good and evil in EVE are points of view; different sides of the same coin. The winner gets to write the history books.
Sabriz Adoudel Black Hydra Consortium. 5390	Posted - 2015.10.06 02:18:27 - [21] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Also, there's no time to check, or chat with the guy to figure out motives; by the time you chat he'll kill you, or escape. Your corp is green (in the overview), your allies are blue, and the enemy is red. You shoot at all the red, and you won't have time to check whether that's the veteran who really hates you and started the war, or some newbie they recruited who just happened to be in the wrong place. There's no time to check. You shoot, hopefully you kill, and if it's the newbie then you just did him/her a favor by teaching some PVP tactics that they can try to figure out, emulate, or counter. Also, some adrenaline rush, maybe even some fun; maybe he had you pinned down with warp disruptors for a full minute before you managed to kill him and his team. And even if you shoot a newbie and kill them - often they have fun. I lost most of my first ten PVP encounters. Still much more fun than stomping through missions. I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 1552	Posted - 2015.10.06 03:41:09 - [22] - Quote White Knighting never works in MMOs. Basically the "White Knight' types have to log in 24/7 guarding something (belt, gate, whatever) whereas pirate types can log in an alt go kill some stuff logout again and go do something else. Hence the reason mining fleets and freighters never have 'guards" it is mind numbingly boring to play one.
Tiberius Heth Say No to Features 171	Posted - 2015.10.06 05:35:47 - [23] - Quote Destroying someone else's ship in a war or gank is really not that different from someone making profit on the market, everyone is out there to take something from someone else. In EVE no one is innocent.
Deck Cadelanne CAStabouts 229	Posted - 2015.10.06 13:47:05 - [24] - Quote There are no "good guys" in terms of the definition you are using. "Good" is totally subjective relative to your point of view at a given point in time. *"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."* - Hunter S. Thompson
Bastion Arzi Ministry of War Amarr Empire 233	Posted - 2015.10.06 13:56:15 - [25] - Quote A good thing is highly subjective - what would be good for a mass murderer and what would be good for ghandi? There's a lot of morally grey out there too. Sometimes honestly I wonder how things stumble on.
Malbona Pomon Petulant Luddite GmbH 0	Posted - 2015.10.06 17:13:19 - [26] - Quote good. bad. who cares, I'm the gal with the catalyst.
Cara Forelli Green Skull LLC Bad Intention 1266	Posted - 2015.10.06 17:31:35 - [27] - Quote Yesterday I found a newbro struggling to kill a mordu's frigate rat in a belt. I killed the newbro and took the loot from the rat. It turned out to be worth 100+ mil. Am I bad? The newbro had such a good attitude about it that I gave him a quarter of the loot (more than 25x the cost of his ship!) and gave him some fitting tips. Am I good? Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
Azda Ja Green Skull LLC Bad Intention 4443	Posted - 2015.10.06 17:37:48 - [28] - Quote Cara Forelli wrote: Am I good? No. Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting. Grrr I tell you. Grrr.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 12319	Posted - 2015.10.06 18:00:43 - [29] - Quote Cara Forelli wrote: Yesterday I found a newbro struggling to kill a mordu's frigate rat in a belt. I killed the newbro and took the loot from the rat. It turned out to be worth 100+ mil. Am I bad? The newbro had such a good attitude about it that I gave him a quarter of the loot (more than 25x the cost of his ship!) and gave him some fitting tips. Am I good? sociopath! Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Tiberius Heth Say No to Features 173	Posted - 2015.10.06 18:09:24 - [30] - Quote Don't you know that all PKers are sad little fckwits who play the game all wrong?* *That's what people keep telling me.
Syeed Ameer Ali Evil Murder Society 42	Posted - 2015.10.06 18:20:13 - [31] - Quote Tiberius Heth wrote: Don't you know that all PKers are sad little fckwits who play the game all wrong?* *That's what people keep telling me. What is a "PKer"? They sound awful. everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3327	Posted - 2015.10.06 18:35:24 - [32] - Quote I am always right. In any conflict I'm in I am the injured party and am fighting bravely against injustice of some kind. Usually I can explain why too.
Kitty Qiao Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2015.10.07 14:45:47 - [33] - Quote Cara Forelli wrote: Yesterday I found a newbro struggling to kill a mordu's frigate rat in a belt. I killed the newbro and took the loot from the rat. It turned out to be worth 100+ mil. Am I bad? The newbro had such a good attitude about it that I gave him a quarter of the loot (more than 25x the cost of his ship!) and gave him some fitting tips. Am I good? I see what your saying. But, ya, you're bad Cara! Bad! If you were good, you would have helped that player kill the rat, let him have the loot, and explained to him how he could have handled it on his own or given tips for fit. No?
Cara Forelli Green Skull LLC Bad Intention 1269	Posted - 2015.10.07 14:58:02 - [34] - Quote Kitty Qiao wrote: Cara Forelli wrote: Yesterday I found a newbro struggling to kill a mordu's frigate rat in a belt. I killed the newbro and took the loot from the rat. It turned out to be worth 100+ mil. Am I bad? The newbro had such a good attitude about it that I gave him a quarter of the loot (more than 25x the cost of his ship!) and gave him some fitting tips. Am I good? I see what your saying. But, ya, you're bad Cara! Bad! If you were good, you would have helped that player kill the rat, let him have the loot, and explained to him how he could have handled it on his own or given tips for fit. No? Plot twist: It was a new player with an old character that had been unsubbed for a year. How was I to know he was new? Eve is a complicated place. Besides, I'm a poor pirate. I need the loot. Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Carpe Noctem. Pandemic Legion 2532	Posted - 2015.10.07 18:37:02 - [35] - Quote A possible place to start on your quest to identify good* people might be to hang out in the 'anti-ganking' chat channel. Rumor has it a lot of white knights hang out there. (*Good in the sense of Lawful-Good alignment on the Gary Gygax AD&D scale of character morality, not in terms of actual capability or skill.) F Would you like to know more?
Kitty Qiao Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2015.10.07 19:03:07 - [36] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: A possible place to start on your quest to identify good* people might be to hang out in the 'anti-ganking' chat channel. Rumor has it a lot of white knights hang out there. (*Good in the sense of Lawful-Good alignment on the Gary Gygax AD&D scale of character morality, not in terms of actual capability or skill.) F A friendly suggestion from a Harkonnen? Sounds like a trap!
Neuntausend GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 366	Posted - 2015.10.07 19:44:31 - [37] - Quote Good guy reporting in.
Moon Moon Burdy Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 83	Posted - 2015.10.07 19:44:46 - [38] - Quote Kitty Qiao wrote: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: A possible place to start on your quest to identify good* people might be to hang out in the 'anti-ganking' chat channel. Rumor has it a lot of white knights hang out there. (*Good in the sense of Lawful-Good alignment on the Gary Gygax AD&D scale of character morality, not in terms of actual capability or skill.) F A friendly suggestion from a Harkonnen? Sounds like a trap! Feyd is a fountain of useful information and lulzy blogs. That said, if you see an obvious trap in Eve, sometimes the best thing to do is spring that trap and enjoy the ride. :) Things that went boom Storytime with Moon Moon New stories (almost) daily! Promising Young Murderer, Education Appreciated.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 25242	Posted - 2015.10.07 20:29:58 - [39] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: I am always right. In any conflict I'm in I am the injured party and am fighting bravely against injustice of some kind. Usually I can explain why too. Confirming Vimsy is a perpetual warrior for justice. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Niko Johnson Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2015.10.07 21:08:38 - [40] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: I am always right. In any conflict I'm in I am the injured party and am fighting bravely against injustice of some kind. Usually I can explain why too. Your portrait reminds me of Idina Menzel, not too sure why though! Also, I am always on the good side. But really, Memphis Baas said everything that has to be said about this discussion.
Sabriz Adoudel Black Hydra Consortium. 5395	Posted - 2015.10.07 23:44:47 - [41] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: A possible place to start on your quest to identify good* people might be to hang out in the 'anti-ganking' chat channel. Rumor has it a lot of white knights hang out there. (*Good in the sense of Lawful-Good alignment on the Gary Gygax AD&D scale of character morality, not in terms of actual capability or skill.) F I would not call them LG at all. The actual action of defending a gank target is LG in principle but the actions of Anti-Ganking are more like http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnightTemplar . Quoting a relevant part: "It's important to note that despite being villains/villainous within the context of the story, Knights Templar believe fully that they are on the side of righteousness and draw strength from that, and that their opponents are not. Trying to reason with one isn't much good either, because many Knight Templar types believe that if you're not with them, you're against them. Invoking actual goodness and decency will have no effect, save for making Knights Templar demonize your cause as the work of the Devil. After all, they are certain that their own cause is just and noble, and anyone who stands in the way is a deluded fool at best and another guilty soul to be "cleansed" or evildoer to be killed at worst, and doing so is not even Dirty Business (except, sometimes, for how much it makes them suffer, having to hand out all this justice) " I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3354	Posted - 2015.10.08 12:58:34 - [42] - Quote Considering that anti-gankers are often hate filled, paranoid anti-social nutcases I think it's pretty difficult to describe them as being lawful good. Don't confuse self-righteousness for actual righteousness.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 12343	Posted - 2015.10.08 13:19:04 - [43] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Considering that anti-gankers are often hate filled, paranoid anti-social nutcases I think it's pretty difficult to describe them as being lawful good. Don't confuse self-righteousness for actual righteousness. This is true, they're well known for it. It's the main reason you don't see organised groups of them , no one likes working with them. There are exceptions obviously , I don't mean to tar them all with the one brush but my experience with most people identifying as ag has been fairly loathsome and vial. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Carpe Noctem. Pandemic Legion 2533	Posted - 2015.10.08 15:36:15 - [44] - Quote Lawful-good still seems best fit from the available measures though. By that I don't evaluate the quality or manner in which they subscribe to 'law' and 'good', but their underpinning righteousness seems sourced in that quadrant of the holy AD&D alignment matrix. Consider... "Law implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability. On the downside, lawfulness can include closed-mindedness, reactionary adherence to tradition, judgmentalness, and a lack of adaptability. Those who consciously promote lawfulness say that only lawful behavior creates a society in which people can depend on each other and make the right decisions in full confidence that others will act as they should." Where even with their pompous and self-righteous attitudes they can still fall within the 'lawful' zone, while still being d1ckheads. Let us also consider the morality rating... "Good implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others." Now it can be argued that they actually straddle the line with neutral, and are in fact Lawful-Neutral, because in the above means-test while they subscribe to preserving the lives of freighter pilots and their dignity, there is no evidence of personal sacrifice in pursuing same. F Would you like to know more?
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3356	Posted - 2015.10.08 16:03:09 - [45] - Quote I think many of them are too dishonest about their intent, motivations and levels of conviction to be called lawful or good. Even if you take a really rigid definition of lawful, wherein it means adherence to the actual law of the land then you can grant them lawful. But good is way out, they're neutral at best and some of them are probably evil. Not that dnd alignment makes a lick of sense.
Tisiphone Dira New Order Logistics CODE. 359	Posted - 2015.10.08 18:10:01 - [46] - Quote Wait, if anti-gankers are lawful good, then that would make us... Hans, are we the baddies?
Bellatrix Invicta New Order Logistics CODE. 623	Posted - 2015.10.08 18:13:34 - [47] - Quote Tisiphone Dira wrote: Wait, if anti-gankers are lawful good, then that would make us... Hans, are we the baddies? Lawful Chaotic Neutral. If you think you've won, think again. The CODE always wins.
William Ruben GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 148	Posted - 2015.10.09 04:41:49 - [48] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Your corp is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys. Even the Goons, if you actually join them and are decent at the game, turn out to be very nice, normal people, who will have your back. Being a game, corps and alliances fight each other because it's fun, not because of economics, moral or religious issues, or whatever. So, I mean, technically there is no "evil"; just actions that the game allows, and actions that the game does not allow. Thus, your circle of friends / corp / alliance is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys. Nonsense, goons are notoriously bad at this game. Believe me, being "good" certainly isn't a criterion for joining us.
Tiddle Jr Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 578	Posted - 2015.10.10 00:56:41 - [49] - Quote i'm one of the goodiest guy in game.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 837	Posted - 2015.10.11 13:20:28 - [50] - Quote Cara Forelli wrote: Yesterday I found a newbro struggling to kill a mordu's frigate rat in a belt. I killed the newbro and took the loot from the rat. It turned out to be worth 100+ mil. Am I bad? The newbro had such a good attitude about it that I gave him a quarter of the loot (more than 25x the cost of his ship!) and gave him some fitting tips. Am I good? good? bad? how about naughty? do you feel like you need a spanking for that? Sometimes I'm naughty just so that I can get a good spanking. Is a good spanking bad? Do I have to be bad to get a good spanking? Oh I'm sorry this is new character Q&A and did mean to get all fifty shades of gray on ya.
Kinroi Alari Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno 41	Posted - 2015.10.12 20:45:57 - [51] - Quote BirdStrike wrote: There is only one. Chribba. Beat me to it.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 1680	Posted - 2015.10.12 22:17:07 - [52] - Quote Haha, this thread is funny... But seriously now.. everyone knows we are the good guys since we enforce the law of Highsec. All the good things you hear about us, they are actually true! the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Memphis Baas 696	Posted - 2015.10.13 00:49:49 - [53] - Quote Nobody can hear anything good about you in space, duh. It's vacuum.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 1682	Posted - 2015.10.13 09:00:59 - [54] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Nobody can hear anything good about you in space, duh. It's vacuum. So why do I hear the carebears cry then anyway? the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Syeed Ameer Ali Evil Murder Society 66	Posted - 2015.10.13 12:45:49 - [55] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Memphis Baas wrote: Nobody can hear anything good about you in space, duh. It's vacuum. So why do I hear the carebears cry then anyway? It's one of the many superpowers given to those who are strong in the Code. everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Garett Rootarian 30plus Fidelas Constans 3	Posted - 2015.11.01 08:04:26 - [56] - Quote Kitty Qiao wrote: I've done some reading about corps and alliances in EVE and their history and am left wondering. Who would you all say are the good guys in the current game today? Is their a strong corp/alliance that is in opposition to The Imperium/CODE/Goons etc? If the for mentioned corp/alliances are not seen by the general player base as the bad guys in the game then what are they or who is? Simple if their red or orange their evil. If they are blue or light blue they are good. no color citizens their canon fodder. By the way the Imperium is a state of mind on the good side check your good guy/bad guy chart. We've had cloning in the South for years. It's called cousins. Imperfection is beauty, madness is genius and it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring
Yang Aurilen Conspiracy Theory. Project.Mayhem. 963	Posted - 2015.11.01 09:22:46 - [57] - Quote Garett Rootarian wrote: Kitty Qiao wrote: I've done some reading about corps and alliances in EVE and their history and am left wondering. Who would you all say are the good guys in the current game today? Is their a strong corp/alliance that is in opposition to The Imperium/CODE/Goons etc? If the for mentioned corp/alliances are not seen by the general player base as the bad guys in the game then what are they or who is? Simple if they're red or orange they're evil. If they are blue or light blue they are good. no color citizens their canon fodder. By the way the Imperium is a state of mind on the good side check your good guy/bad guy chart. fixed that for you. Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 1605	Posted - 2015.11.01 23:01:02 - [58] - Quote If you really want to pursue the pre 3.5 D&D aligments in EVE thing, then gankers for just the lols are Chaotic Neutral, gankers for tears are Chaotic Evil and CODE is Lawful Neutral .
Avvy Republic University Minmatar Republic 195	Posted - 2015.11.03 11:54:48 - [59] - Quote BirdStrike wrote: There is only one. Chribba. Not true, although probably the most well known one.
FT Diomedes The Graduates Get Off My Lawn 1891	Posted - 2015.11.03 16:28:17 - [60] - Quote This thread reminds me of Grosse Point Blank: Kevin McCullers: Man, why don't we just do his job, so we can do our job and get the ** out of here? Steve: What do you mean, "do his job?" What am I, a cold-blooded killer? I'm not a cold-blooded killer. Kevin McCullers: Now, wait a minute... Steve: No, you wait a minute. You want to kill the good guy but not be the bad guy. Doesn't work like that. You have to wait until the bad guy kills the good guy, then when you kill the bad guy, you're the good guy. Kevin McCullers: So - just to clarify - if we do his job we're the bad guys, and if we do our job we're the good guys. Steve: Yes. Kevin McCullers: That's... great. Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why** do I post here? I'm stubborn.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 9041	Posted - 2015.11.03 18:10:37 - [61] - Quote Contract all of your stuff and ISK to me, and I will give you a genuine and accredited "I am a Good Guy" lapel badge, for you to wear proudly around town. [b]---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
Frank Pannon 175	Posted - 2015.11.04 08:30:39 - [62] - Quote Valerian STA wrote: There's the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. I am Ugly :)
erg cz ErgoDron 353	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:55:37 - [63] - Quote Tipa Riot wrote: EvE is a sandbox full of kids ... the bad guy is defined by the inherent principles of a sandbox, destroy somebody's sand castle, build the highest, best looking sand castle, use the priciest tools, have more buddies, etc. You get the point? Viable opinion, but I think Eve has a lore. It is more, than just a counter strike in space. You can choose side and join faction warfare. Fight for the last democracy in New eden (look at Eleutherian Guard [EL-G] corp history for example) or help best state in a world to defeat tyrany of byrocratic federation. Free slaves or fight against terrorists , who hide themself behind so-called "republic". You can go role playing and feel good guy in this game. Some ppl were supporting free port ideals and went to help defending Providence against cruel and greedy empire... Absolutely free trial extension. Just click the link and get your extra 2 weeks of Eve for free!
aldhura Bartledannians 9	Posted - 2015.11.05 23:34:05 - [64] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Memphis Baas wrote: Your corp is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys. Even the Goons, if you actually join them and are decent at the game, turn out to be very nice, normal people, who will have your back. Being a game, corps and alliances fight each other because it's fun, not because of economics, moral or religious issues, or whatever. So, I mean, technically there is no "evil"; just actions that the game allows, and actions that the game does not allow. Thus, your circle of friends / corp / alliance is the good guys, everyone else is the bad guys. This. EVE is a competitive game. Even if the effect is too small to measure, your gain is everyone else's loss. If you suddenly gained a quarter trillion ISK (quite a lot, but there's lots of players with ten times that amount or more), any move you make to spend it will change the game economy considerably. I personally caused a noticeable gamewide increase in the cost of tech two invention just by spending 6 billion ISK stockpiling decryptors - every time you buy a tech 2 module, it's (very slightly) more expensive because of me. There is no good or bad in game. There's plenty out of game (which is why some of the biggest e-assholes in game, people like me, chipped in to raise a fair amount in the Nepal charity fundraiser event CCP ran a while back). Listen to the trailer from the Inferno expansion a few years back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kED11aGobUk . The first minute of it has an in-universe character talking about morality in EVE. Yep, cause the only place to get5 decrytptors is the places you bought them from :/ Bartledannians are recruiting.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6104254#post6104254
Magnus Roden Center for the Advancement of Human Endeavour 40	Posted - 2015.11.06 01:20:03 - [65] - Quote Shooting people is caring. Excellence is the gradual result of always striving to do better.
Aeniec Akheteru Integrated Astrometrics Hedonistic Imperative 8	Posted - 2015.11.06 04:14:22 - [66] - Quote "Just because someone is on the other side, doesnt make them evil; they just have a different way of looking at things. You like to create, and we like to destroy and recreate." -Murasame, Defending Evil. my bio.. is actually relevant .. lol
Velarra 461	Posted - 2015.11.08 00:46:39 - [67] - Quote Magnus Roden wrote: Shooting people is caring. You mean like this?
Samuel Triptee Frankenstuff 111	Posted - 2015.11.09 00:40:37 - [68] - Quote So... there are good guys and bad guys, but all are targets. Have You Hugged Your Frigate Today?
Action Nerd Petulant Luddite GmbH 0	Posted - 2015.11.09 17:36:45 - [69] - Quote This will explain everything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt1W0F0yObg
Dirk Magnum KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 514	Posted - 2015.11.10 20:17:37 - [70] - Quote Gevlon Goblin and Ripard Teg. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
Taunrich Kaufmann Executive Engineering Ltd. 30	Posted - 2015.12.08 17:11:40 - [71] - Quote It's actually well established that the Caldari are the master race and therefore the good guys. CEO, Executive Engineering Ltd. "There is no love but love for the Caldari State."
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 26417	Posted - 2015.12.08 17:42:40 - [72] - Quote Shoot 'em All. Morality is for the brainwashed. I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Kaska Iskalar Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2015.12.09 04:51:16 - [73] - Quote Eve doesn't have good guys.
Nat Silverguard Aideron Robotics 209	Posted - 2015.12.09 07:32:24 - [74] - Quote Taunrich Kaufmann wrote: It's actually well established that the Caldari are the master race and therefore the good guys. sir, squids are the scum of the universe. death to all of you! good day. o7 Just Add Water
Amber Patoria Isogen 5 5311	Posted - 2015.12.09 09:15:50 - [75] - Quote Cara Forelli wrote: Yesterday I found a newbro struggling to kill a mordu's frigate rat in a belt. I killed the newbro and took the loot from the rat. It turned out to be worth 100+ mil. Am I bad? The newbro had such a good attitude about it that I gave him a quarter of the loot (more than 25x the cost of his ship!) and gave him some fitting tips. Am I good? That's hot. We should definitely do brunch. Reminds me of Mr Penguin. Well, his name wasn't actually penguin but his corp kinda was. You see as an Explorer Hunter and professional baby eater I often find myself with new pilots in my optimal. Here I was sitting 160k above this relic site, as I do, cloaked in my Loki. I see core probes on scan and a short time later a little Heron arrives piloted by Mr Penguin. I check him out, relatively newish and CEO of a small corp. He's only lost one ship before and his bio proudly proclaims in broken English mixed with Japanese that "Nobody can stop the penguin!". The audacity! I warp in and tackle him, brrrt brrrt from the autocannons and Mr Penguin's Heron jam full of 90m worth of loot explodes in a big cloud of can contents before he can even hack the first can (leaving partially run sites often scares off my prey). He lingers long enough that I manage to get his pod too after posting my gf in local. Scoop the corpse, pop the wreck and return to my perch above the site to examine my loot and corpse in comfort and privacy. A short time later I see more probes on scan plus an Imicus. Dscan says the Imicus is at or near the highsex hole so I go take a look. Here's this Imicus on the hole doing scans. Same corp as Mr Penguin. Hole activation and who decloaks? MR PENGUIN back for round two in a new Heron named "gift". Feels. Seems his corpmate had given him a new Heron plus a second set of eyes, accompanying him back for another crack at those dank blood cans. Just as I'm circling cloaked like a vulture considering whether or not to just decloak and try to alpha them both on the hole before they can jump out, they warp off. Mr Penguin's friend seems to be a bit slicker than his CEO, he makes a safe spot and they both chill there while scanning. Seems Mr Penguin didn't bookmark anything on his first visit. So I drop combats and start probing this daring duo down. While doing so I take another look at these pilots' info and notice since his earlier murder Mr Penguin's bio now proclaims he's a friendly penguin who just wants to make friends. Well we all know the best way to make friends in eve. I get 100% on the Imicus and in I go, decloak and go for the tackle. They're both together, and the Imicus is aligned, managing to insta-warp... But there's MrPenguin... still on grid, trying to burn away from me like a wide eyed child with a steam train bearing down on him. I close the 20k+ gap quickly in the Vampyre and Mr Penguin dies horribly a second time in an hour. Happy to have made a new friend, I eagerly shoot off a message to Mr Penguin hoping he speaks Sebiestor as well as Japanese, telling him what he could have done to survive both the first death and second. I also slipped him about 20m isk to ease the pain. He never replied. Candi LeMew > It doesn't have to make sense. It's just the way it is. Johnny cruz > You end up getting off today Lotor? lo-++¦
XeX Znndstrup 83	Posted - 2015.12.10 13:53:41 - [76] - Quote There are criminals and honest citizens. The Law Organization is working for a better world. That was the only answer you were looking for. XeX Znndstrup. Federal Chief Prosecutor Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order. "Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise. @ /// f
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 13025	Posted - 2015.12.10 14:13:01 - [77] - Quote don't start trolling in here xex, you will lose your posting privileges fairly quickly. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
XeX Znndstrup 83	Posted - 2015.12.10 14:52:40 - [78] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: don't start trolling in here xex, you will lose your posting privileges fairly quickly. Trolling ? We just answered a question. No use to engage another talking here. You know where to do if you need. Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order. "Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise. @ /// f
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 9642	Posted - 2015.12.10 15:26:30 - [79] - Quote XeX, your weird space police RP crap is fine in See and Pee - it's part of the furniture, even - but here...no, just no Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Celthric Kanerian Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation 544	Posted - 2015.12.10 15:37:11 - [80] - Quote Lorewise the Amarr are the good guys trying to save New edens inhabitents from chaos. However the terrorist faction Gallente try to undo their glorious work.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 27057	Posted - 2015.12.10 15:52:34 - [81] - Quote Celthric Kanerian wrote: Lorewise the Amarr are the good guys trying to save New edens inhabitents from chaos. However the terrorist faction Gallente try to undo their glorious work. You evil religious monsters keeping us and the minmatar as slaves for millenia! NEVER AGAIN WILL YOU CONTROL US!!!! Doing it right, am I ? ;) Good and bad are defined by those who controls the propaganda. I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Beta Maoye 84	Posted - 2015.12.10 17:39:57 - [82] - Quote EVE is a big canvas that allow players to paint the color they want on it. Some like to put the color of bloody red on it, some like to use calmly blue and most want the colors of rainbow. If your alliance has a foothold in null sec, they must have fought against and expelled the last alliance that occupied that space in order to claim sovereignty in those solar systems. Other alliances fought against your alliance for the same reason. Is the last alliance you fought against for taking their space bad? Is the third alliance fought against your alliance for taking your space bad? Is your alliance good? Which alliance is good and which alliance is bad? What is good and what is bad?

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