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CCP raRaRa
C C P C C P Alliance
89
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Posted - 2015.10.08 08:09:40 -
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justin666 wrote:is there any word on ccp sorting out the launcher when it comes to launching 8 clients etc?
it launches the accounts in the wrong order even after dragging them into the correct order on the launch screen.. so everytime i launch my toons its next to useless as i can not multi box if my toons are in the wrong order etc..
The problem was that all clients were launched at the same time. You can now set launch delay between launching clients under settings, the default value is 1.5 seconds. I recommend increasing the time if clients are still launched in the wrong order.
CCP raRaRa // Web Developer // Team Webster
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Nora Miller
Nikana Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2015.10.08 08:16:25 -
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Love the new launcher and all the features!
One question though: I have multiple installations of EVE because I read that it would help with performance of each client running. Will there be or is there a way to tell the launcher which .exe to launch for which account? Or any way to tell which .exe the launcher choses? |
Darkblad
Hilf Dir selbst in EVE
2332
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Posted - 2015.10.08 08:30:16 -
[183] - Quote
Nora Miller wrote:One question though: I have multiple installations of EVE because I read that it would help with performance of each client running. Will there be or is there a way to tell the launcher which .exe to launch for which account? Or any way to tell which .exe the launcher choses? The new Launcher uses a single installation of the client binaries itself (for each server). The default location of the binaries is C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\[tq|sisi|duality].
For the client settings of your individual accounts you can set one of the settings profiles within the launcher which will handle the rest for you.
No need to have multiple client binaries. The Launcher will launch the correct .exe for you, depending on whether you want to connect to tq, sisi or duality.
You can remove your previously existing client installations if you like.
EVE Infolinks GÇó Mining Guide GÇó Missions
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Estevan Andrard
World Traders Guild Channel
0
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Posted - 2015.10.08 10:45:34 -
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The setup, cache and account keeping is really nice.
In my use I have faced a lot of problems with the multiple launch feature though.
Changed interval to absurd values and still not working most of the times.
Edit:
Although the launcher is designed to handle multi accounts, it is a hard fact that installing and running indepent instalations of EVE in Windows wil affect the performance. It has to do on how windows will handle them, not how eve handles itself. The change may not be noticeable using 2 or 3 accounts, but when you run 6, 10, then you notice clearly the difference. |
Slappy Andven
Natural Born Killas Party Poopers.
62
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:01:53 -
[185] - Quote
Amazing work! Thank you!
Would it be possible, when launching multiple clients for the very first time, to assume the player will want them in windowed mode rather than full screen?
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Slappy Andven
CEO A.C.M.E. Construction, Inc.
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Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
1052
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:09:29 -
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When the final version goes live, is it going to wipe all of our settings? I launched the test version and it obviously isn't using the settings we already have.
Also, while you are streamlining, is it possible to have the launcher tell the launching client which character to load? |
Jovian Disease
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:15:36 -
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server status does not updat while the launcher is opened
only after closing the launcher and opening it again it shows the server status |
Raphendyr Nardieu
Unpublished Chapter Chapters.
56
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:16:12 -
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While working with the launcher (even though this is probably sso thing) could you fix what happens when you write wrong password?
Currently when user account or password is wrong it will ask you about your character with message "You haven't logged in from this IP before". This is a bit misleading as sometimes I'm actually logging from different IP and need to answer for that question.
Instead it should tell something like "username or password is wrong". |
Astroyka
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
175
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:17:00 -
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Moe Lesture wrote:^^^ THIS ENTIRE PAGE OF POSTS
Is there any reason why the new launcher cant store EVE settings under Documents (like logs, screenshots, overview & fittings) instead of buried deep in sub folders inside our AppData directory?
My Current location of eve files using the BETA launcher:
C:\Users\%username%AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\c_games_eve_online_sharedcache_tq_87.237.38.200\settings_1
My Current location of eve files using the current launcher:
C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\c_games_eve_online_tranquility_tranquility\settings
Default "pleb mode" installed EVE location:
C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\c_program_Files_(x86)_eve_online_tranquility\settings
Change the new launcher so these files are stored under:
C:\Users\%username%\Documents\EVE
What this accomplishes:
Just look at the posts above. Every time someone wants to backup their eve files, xfer their eve settings across multiple pc, duplicate character setups, xfer their window positions and hotkeys to SISI, I have to navigate them to the path above. Their eyes glaze over and they begin to drool. Plus consistency wise, why are my screenshots, chat logs, overview files, and fittings in a nice folder in my Documents, yet the most important files (core_char),(core_user) buried inside folders inside folders inside folders?
INB4 "multiple users" or "localization and name differences" arguments.
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Also, new launcher should have shortcuts to screenshots, fittings, overview, and/or settings folder as a button built in.
+1 for this!!
I really want my settings permanently moved out of AppData too.
Astroyka
A Mirkur Draug'Tyr pilot, fighting against slavery in New Eden
www.astroyka.net
@Astroyka
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Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:18:10 -
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extremely slow to launch, even worse than the current launcher. all i got is a white screen that says "please wait". |
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Sir Constantin
36
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:26:33 -
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On darker desktop backgrounds the Title Bar is kind of hard to see. A nice little feature i would like is to be able to drag the launcher around the screen by clicking on the launcher's background.
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Samuel the Terrible
Starfox Initiative PLUR.
8
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:30:45 -
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I love it, nice clean simple multi server all the good buz words.
I do feel like its missing one thing. Some sort of new/announcement area. - after all its how I find out about most things as I'm to lasy to check here!
Perfect thing would be a news ticker down the bottom that just has headlines scrolling alone, a headline peeks your interest. you click it it opens like it would if you clicked on an announcement on the old launcher. Otherwise nice job CCP
**CEO of www.terribleganking.com
Trashing space one wreck at a time!**
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Harold Tuphlos
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
81
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:32:56 -
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When I try to install the launcher, the installer crashes when it tries to close. Attempting to run the launcher then fails with the following message:
evelauncher.exe - entry point Not Found
The procedure entry point K32GetProcessMemoryInfo could not be located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll.
The OS I'm running is vista. |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
1980
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:53:11 -
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What is the purpose of the username/password boxes increasing in size 2px when you hover over them and in the process moving and lagging out functionality like the drop down button for usernames? It can't be helpful to people with bad sight or color blindness, as the effect not exactly noticeable and irritating, This should be removed and replaced with something easier to notice and less irritating, like giving the mouse-overed field a darker color.
I just installed the launcher and now the progress bar does something with 166 files (I guess it's importing my settings?) but there is no tooltip, no explanatory text like when the old launcher DL'd a patch on what exactly it does.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Josef Djugashvilis
2998
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Posted - 2015.10.08 12:02:43 -
[195] - Quote
At long, long, last I get to use SiSi.
Thank you CCP
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marly cortez
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
112
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Posted - 2015.10.08 12:44:32 -
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Good that there is a possible way to get on SiSi without all the rave we had before, may try that one of these days.
Two things though that concern me about this launcher set up,
1, As it is a beta there has been no information regarding reverting should....And it will, the thing break your clients, might encourage a few more to use it if they knew they could can the thing in the future.
2, The client choice set up for starting multiples is so clunky, in fact the word used when we looked at it was stone age compared to a long standing product were clients can be grouped, named and booted in chosen multiples with a single mouse click.
This later gives players the choice of setting up there clients in groups, naming them for easy reference and as long as there happy to use a single pass word for them boot the whole lot in one go in rapid sequence, for comparison, I was getting speeds for ten clients of less than four minutes, I know it's a beta version guys but you really should stop with this and the bling you feel the players really REALLY, want and concentrate on getting it to load clients quickly, simply and efficiently.
Tbh if it does this players will not be bothered if it displays the face of Donald duck while it does it, Oh and could you please add multi screen formatting while you at it, Saves tabbing....Less of a click fest you see, Not all players have sixty inch screens in multiples of ten, you know how it is.
Own nothing, Build nothing, Plan nothing, Just blow it all up, you know it makes perfect sense, Fozzie says so.
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Anna Ohu
M S Holdings
2
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Posted - 2015.10.08 12:59:18 -
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Whish List: Ability to show Character on each account before logging in (either last saved info or current info) Would be great to see each character's ISK, location, Current training and completion, total training skill queue time. so you would click on account name and a box would drop down showing Character's name and additional info (oh you could so much from here like set to primary character log in, and skip toon selection option... ok now i'm getting greedy)
Even cooler (i'm american bad grammar is my birthright :P ) would be the ability to set different settings to each Character
Next to each account show the number of days and date till active game time ends (and additional queue game time) would be really cool to see a notation of which character is using additional training queue and time and date till expiration
and you could take it a step further by putting click boxes by expiration time or non-training characters that link to that account to purchase additional in game/training queue time |
Archeras Umangiar
Guardians of the Galaxy Holdings Guardians of the Galaxy.
22
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Posted - 2015.10.08 14:18:54 -
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Anna Ohu wrote:Whish List: Ability to show Character on each account before logging in (either last saved info or current info) Would be great to see each character's ISK, location, Current training and completion, total training skill queue time. so you would click on account name and a box would drop down showing Character's name and additional info (oh you could so much from here like set to primary character log in, and skip toon selection option... ok now i'm getting greedy)
Even cooler (i'm american bad grammar is my birthright :P ) would be the ability to set different settings to each Character
Next to each account show the number of days and date till active game time ends (and additional queue game time) would be really cool to see a notation of which character is using additional training queue and time and date till expiration
and you could take it a step further by putting click boxes by expiration time or non-training characters that link to that account to purchase additional in game/training queue time
i do agree, that having the (maybe as an option) launcher as a *sort of* evemon, to see atleast how much isk/location/gametime remaining for each account/char, and the default/skip char things sounds great aswell.
ideally aswell would to be able to save *sets*
letz say, you have a mining team: you could have the client launch your mining / orca / hauler, and have on the same accouts a pvp set, that you can launch seperated (with that skip character thing option) just some random toughts there... guess the possibilities are pretty much limitess |
Net7
Slackers with Questionable Tastes
1
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Posted - 2015.10.08 14:46:14 -
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Checking in to confirm a few other posters here with GPU Driver crashing when launching the new launcher.
On the flip side, the issue seems to be Crossfire... I have an APU setup to crossfire with a dedicated GPU which has worked fine in the past (2 years)... with the new launcher... NOPE!
Might need others here to test if they have a Crossfire setup, but the moment I turned mine off, it worked like a charm! Also might want to have some SLI testers report as well!
Windows 10 x64, latest RELEASE AMD drivers, then the BETA drivers, same issue, the moment I disable Crossfire, the new launcher works!
*Also, the updater asking me if i want to restart to install an update for the updater... DO THAT AUTOMATICALLY! (or at least provide an option!!!) |
Gerowien Sunrunner
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Curatores Veritatis Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.10.08 14:54:58 -
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After downtime today I am not able to use the new launcher to login into the game, it quits with an incompatible build and I seem to not find any option within the launcher to update the game client.
Any idea ? |
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
77
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Posted - 2015.10.08 15:27:50 -
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Gerowien Sunrunner wrote:After downtime today I am not able to use the new launcher to login into the game, it quits with an incompatible build and I seem to not find any option within the launcher to update the game client.
Any idea ?
That's strange. Could you try selecting the 'E' in the top left corner ( just left of 'EVE Launcher -BETA) and select refresh. The Launcher should automatically keep track of what build it should run, but I do wonder if there is some kind of hangup going on there.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
1981
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Posted - 2015.10.08 15:40:33 -
[202] - Quote
A thing that I particularly like: The launcher window remembers its position on the screen. \o/
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Moe Lesture
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
25
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Posted - 2015.10.08 16:35:03 -
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1) Move the launcher Information from HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\CCP\EVEONLINE into a config file inside the launcher folder or under the Users EVE folder under Documents.
Reason being that eve if you delete EVERYTHING file wise, if you reinstall the launcher, it remembers the previous location of the "SharedCache". Moving it to a file inside the Users' documents also allows per Windows User settings to remain.
2) Move core_user and core_char files from the holy crap long appdata location to under the Users EVE folder under Documents.
Reason: Every day you have tons of posts on the forums, reddit, in corp chats, etc asking how to do something with the eve settings and its always a pain in the ass for us tech-savvy folk to explain how to even navigate to the files, let alone begin messing with them. Also would make backup up EVE easier.
3) Bring back some form of mobile / non-install (/END /LUA:OFF) functionality. I want to have a single folder called EVE that can be placed on a flash drive and contains my screenshots, overview YAML file, my fitting XMLs, my core_char and core_user files, and remembers all of my settings for the launcher.
Reason being 100% better user experiences all across the board for pretty much everyone (except the devs who have to recode it all, sorry ill buy you more pizzas). People can play at work without installing, take their install to a friend's house to show them EVE, quickly backup and restore their EVE files while testing things like NEW LAUNCHERS...
-- TLDR: Make the EVE folder contain all the EVE stuff, instead of using the registry, the EVE documents folder, the CCP Appdata folder, the other CCP appdata folder, etc. FLASH DRIVE EVE VERSION ALL FILES NEEDED 1 PLACE.
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Net7
Slackers with Questionable Tastes
1
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Posted - 2015.10.08 16:43:02 -
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Moe Lesture wrote:1) Move the launcher Information from HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\CCP\EVEONLINE into a config file inside the launcher folder or under the Users EVE folder under Documents.
Reason being that eve if you delete EVERYTHING file wise, if you reinstall the launcher, it remembers the previous location of the "SharedCache". Moving it to a file inside the Users' documents also allows per Windows User settings to remain.
2) Move core_user and core_char files from the holy crap long appdata location to under the Users EVE folder under Documents.
Reason: Every day you have tons of posts on the forums, reddit, in corp chats, etc asking how to do something with the eve settings and its always a pain in the ass for us tech-savvy folk to explain how to even navigate to the files, let alone begin messing with them. Also would make backup up EVE easier.
3) Bring back some form of mobile / non-install (/END /LUA:OFF) functionality. I want to have a single folder called EVE that can be placed on a flash drive and contains my screenshots, overview YAML file, my fitting XMLs, my core_char and core_user files, and remembers all of my settings for the launcher.
Reason being 100% better user experiences all across the board for pretty much everyone (except the devs who have to recode it all, sorry ill buy you more pizzas). People can play at work without installing, take their install to a friend's house to show them EVE, quickly backup and restore their EVE files while testing things like NEW LAUNCHERS...
-- TLDR: Make the EVE folder contain all the EVE stuff, instead of using the registry, the EVE documents folder, the CCP Appdata folder, the other CCP appdata folder, etc. FLASH DRIVE EVE VERSION ALL FILES NEEDED 1 PLACE.
Was going to quote and +1 the other post about moving everything to \Documents\EVE\, but this also gets a +1 from me... I want to STAB programs that dont use a config FILE and make me hunt through the registry!
+1 to both options, aka HAVING AN OPTION!
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Moe Lesture
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
25
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Posted - 2015.10.08 16:45:51 -
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Bug? or intended featureGäó?
Windows 10
Build 969236
Registry settings are not changed for LOG location when SharedCache location is changed
Originally my SharedCache was located at C:\Games\EVE ONLINE\
i changed the location via the top left E icon in the launcher > SharedCache option > MOVE
C:\Games\EVE
The registry location instantly changed under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\CCP\EVEONLINE however the location of the logs KEY remained using the C:\games\EVE ONLINE folder as seen in the screenshot.
http://imgur.com/pAfOjk2
bug report also submitted
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Astroyka
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
175
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Posted - 2015.10.08 16:57:59 -
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Moe Lesture wrote:1) Move the launcher Information from HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\CCP\EVEONLINE into a config file inside the launcher folder or under the Users EVE folder under Documents.
Reason being that eve if you delete EVERYTHING file wise, if you reinstall the launcher, it remembers the previous location of the "SharedCache". Moving it to a file inside the Users' documents also allows per Windows User settings to remain.
2) Move core_user and core_char files from the holy crap long appdata location to under the Users EVE folder under Documents.
Reason: Every day you have tons of posts on the forums, reddit, in corp chats, etc asking how to do something with the eve settings and its always a pain in the ass for us tech-savvy folk to explain how to even navigate to the files, let alone begin messing with them. Also would make backup up EVE easier.
3) Bring back some form of mobile / non-install (/END /LUA:OFF) functionality. I want to have a single folder called EVE that can be placed on a flash drive and contains my screenshots, overview YAML file, my fitting XMLs, my core_char and core_user files, and remembers all of my settings for the launcher.
Reason being 100% better user experiences all across the board for pretty much everyone (except the devs who have to recode it all, sorry ill buy you more pizzas). People can play at work without installing, take their install to a friend's house to show them EVE, quickly backup and restore their EVE files while testing things like NEW LAUNCHERS...
-- TLDR: Make the EVE folder contain all the EVE stuff, instead of using the registry, the EVE documents folder, the CCP Appdata folder, the other CCP appdata folder, etc. FLASH DRIVE EVE VERSION ALL FILES NEEDED 1 PLACE.
+1 from me again. Consolidation of EvE files would be a massive boon for everyone, tech-savvy and non-tech alike. Sure this is not just a launcher thing I'm sure, but please consider this CCP.
Astroyka
A Mirkur Draug'Tyr pilot, fighting against slavery in New Eden
www.astroyka.net
@Astroyka
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
736
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Posted - 2015.10.08 17:09:24 -
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I agree that settings storage in EVE is a bit of a mess at the moment, but fixing that is beyond the scope of the new launcher. We do plan to add tools to the launcher to manage settings, however, and once my work on the launcher is done I hope to have some time to improve settings management overall.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Astroyka
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
175
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Posted - 2015.10.08 17:19:45 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:I agree that settings storage in EVE is a bit of a mess at the moment, but fixing that is beyond the scope of the new launcher. We do plan to add tools to the launcher to manage settings, however, and once my work on the launcher is done I hope to have some time to improve settings management overall.
Are you high on #CCPizza?? <3
Awesome, I really hope that you have the time or are given the additional time to fix this for us. Out of interest I just looked through my AppData/local folder and my current CCP folder is 1.94GB. This is the largest folder by far in there and since I use a SSD RAID array for my "windows installation" I would like that space back! Being able to move that data to my 6TB HDD RAID array would make me happy beyond belief <3
Astroyka
A Mirkur Draug'Tyr pilot, fighting against slavery in New Eden
www.astroyka.net
@Astroyka
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Kachiko Sama
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.08 17:34:39 -
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I've been using this for a couple of days without issue until downtime today. Now when I open the launcher i get a plain black box on my screen that is unresponsive to all input. I have to terminate it from the task manager.
The debug log in the folder (d:\evelauncher in my case) contains the following
[1008/182750:ERROR:resource_bundle.cc(691)] Failed to load C:\Qt\5.5\msvc2013\qtwebengine_resources.pak Some features may not be available. [1008/182750:WARNING:resource_bundle.cc(304)] locale_file_path.empty() [1008/182750:ERROR:resource_bundle.cc(691)] Failed to load C:\Qt\5.5\msvc2013\qtwebengine_resources.pak Some features may not be available. [1008/182750:WARNING:resource_bundle.cc(304)] locale_file_path.empty()
The qtwebengine file above is in the same folder as the application itself, The regerenced c:\qt... folder does not exist, leading me to believe this is a config issue somwhere (possibly in the registry?)
The issue persists through uninstall and reinstall of the application. My old sisi and TQ launchers work fine (but are slower to load today than previous)
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Moe Lesture
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
27
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Posted - 2015.10.08 17:39:12 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:I agree that settings storage in EVE is a bit of a mess at the moment, but fixing that is beyond the scope of the new launcher. We do plan to add tools to the launcher to manage settings, however, and once my work on the launcher is done I hope to have some time to improve settings management overall.
Does the Beta Launcher use the following paths...
C:\Users\X\AppData\Local\CCP\EVEONLINE C:\Users\X\AppData\Roaming\CCP\EVEONLINE
Because the current launcher and game already use...
C:\Users\X\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE
This is so the old and beta launchers don't booger one another up, correct?
If so, when the Beta launcher replaces the old launcher, will you consolidate the paths to use one folder, instead of the current 3 folders?
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Also, Thank you for download on demand, SharedCache sharing, and all servers up to date 24/7. having separate folders for each servers' EXE cleaned up the appdata complexity just a tad and any little bit helps.
Example:
From This - C:\Users\X\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\c_games_eve_online_tranquility_tranquility To This - C:\Users\X\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\c_games_eve_tq_87.237.38.200
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