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Fulmen Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.27 20:27:00 - [31] OK OK. We all agree that ctrl+q'ing is lame but looking at it from a business sense, CCP would rather lock these couple threads created about it than they would responding to 500+ petitions a day demanding reimbursement. and p.s. you want some french cries to go with that whaaburger? And can i offer you some wheineken to wash it all down with?
Helganstandt Finis Lumen The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.12.27 20:28:00 - [32] Originally by: Ava'Lin Mytil Heres my impression of this thread... Heres a cartoon Lol, that's sadly really accurate.
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.27 20:33:00 - [33] Originally by: DHB WildCat Yes every Isk I and my Burn Eden mates make comes from killing ships and selling the loot. Maybe you could diversify. Place alts in large industrial alliance and mine and stuff. Or you could extend your money making to shooting logged off ratters now that CCP has taken an intense dislike to them leaving wrecks scattered around. Try to think out of the box! We all know the difference between people possibly crashing in lag or on jumping in, or just crashing while sitting doing nothing. Your suggestions are sound - but is the problem that CCP's petition process will be overwhelemed if even more players lose their ships on crashing and nothing can be proved either way? Myn
Helganstandt Finis Lumen The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.12.27 20:36:00 - [34] I think BE are forgetting to mention that it's lots of fun to gatecamp if you have a tactic that is basically shooting fish in a barrel. For those that haven't shot fish in a barrel, it's really a LOT more fun than you'd think. But if half the fish dissappear on you, it's kind of annoying.
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.27 20:39:00 - [35] Telling me about making isk from pvp, roflcopters. Avon, I don't want to make you look like a chump but I kill more in 1 month than you have in over a year of being a bobbit. I also have a kill to loss ratio that is atleast 5 times better than yours. I guarantee you have some carebear plan that you use to make your isk, wether it be mining, mission running or the bpo lottery. So please spare me the i'm a uber pvper, your stats are very unimpressive, please refrain from making posts about pvp because you are obviously not very adept at it. I love the mods, when i grow up I want to be a mod. luv pookie
Louis DelaBlanche Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.27 20:47:00 - [36] Do i like it? no. Do i do it? occasionally (not in bubbles or PvP mind you). Do i complain about it? not worth the effort or noise. For better or for worse its an accepted, if not acceptable "survival" tactic. If it saves someone from killboard prats (who i detest), then its a good thing in my books. If someone jumps into a bubblecamp & logs while cloaked, its a bad thing (although frankly theres a mechanics issue here thats not for this forum). Untimately, if im in a gatecamp & someone escapes by loggin, I find it much more efficient to simply say "damn" & then move on to the next target; as opposed to brooding & winding myself up about it.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.27 20:52:00 - [37] Originally by: Evil Pookie Telling me about making isk from pvp, roflcopters. Avon, I don't want to make you look like a chump but I kill more in 1 month than you have in over a year of being a bobbit. I also have a kill to loss ratio that is atleast 5 times better than yours. I guarantee you have some carebear plan that you use to make your isk, wether it be mining, mission running or the bpo lottery. So please spare me the i'm a uber pvper, your stats are very unimpressive, please refrain from making posts about pvp because you are obviously not very adept at it. I love the mods, when i grow up I want to be a mod. luv pookie Amazing as it may seem, I used to have a life before joining BoB. You know what I used to do? If you ask around, I'm sure lots of people could fill you in. Because of being very, very, very good at it, I don't have to really worry about ISK anymore. Why did I stop doing what I used to and join up with BoB? Because I started to find PvP just for the sake of it, or just to make ISK, boring and ultimately pointless. Without a more esoteric objective, it started to feel jaded and childish. I wanted more than the ethereal thrill of the kill. I guess my gameplay matured. I can see that you are bitter, and that is a shame, but let me give you a tip: Trying to hack down the tall poppy doesn't make you a tall poppy. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Bailey Banks Caldari Feet Of Clay Inc	Posted - 2006.12.27 20:57:00 - [38] It's obviously a bug, right? If someone is warpscambled by a module, they can't warp away, even if they crash. And the warp bubbles are supposed to be the same. So if you see someone warp out of a bubble, I suggest you petition the bug. CCP has a lot of bugs to fix, and I'm sure that how many petitions they receive has an effect on their priorities of which get fixed when, so if they understand that this is a really serious bug that is affecting the gameplay of everyone who PvP's, it will get fixed sooner.
Masta Killa BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2006.12.27 21:11:00 - [39] Originally by: Avon Amazing as it may seem, I used to have a life before joining BoB. You know what I used to do? If you ask around, I'm sure lots of people could fill you in. Because of being very, very, very good at it, I don't have to really worry about ISK anymore. Why did I stop doing what I used to and join up with BoB? Because I started to find PvP just for the sake of it, or just to make ISK, boring and ultimately pointless. Without a more esoteric objective, it started to feel jaded and childish. I wanted more than the ethereal thrill of the kill. I guess my gameplay matured. I can see that you are bitter, and that is a shame, but let me give you a tip: Trying to hack down the tall poppy doesn't make you a tall poppy. I fail to see the mature gameplay of flying in groups of 200 and doing nothing but being gangwarped around and every once in a while hitting some F buttons. Maybe this mature gameplay you boast of is an excuse for your individual pvp skills not being as good as others'.. By the way I like your writing style, it's very dramatic.
Etho Demerzel Gallente Shadow Militia	Posted - 2006.12.27 21:35:00 - [40] Originally by: Masta Killa Originally by: Avon Amazing as it may seem, I used to have a life before joining BoB. You know what I used to do? If you ask around, I'm sure lots of people could fill you in. Because of being very, very, very good at it, I don't have to really worry about ISK anymore. Why did I stop doing what I used to and join up with BoB? Because I started to find PvP just for the sake of it, or just to make ISK, boring and ultimately pointless. Without a more esoteric objective, it started to feel jaded and childish. I wanted more than the ethereal thrill of the kill. I guess my gameplay matured. I can see that you are bitter, and that is a shame, but let me give you a tip: Trying to hack down the tall poppy doesn't make you a tall poppy. I fail to see the mature gameplay of flying in groups of 200 and doing nothing but being gangwarped around and every once in a while hitting some F buttons. Maybe this mature gameplay you boast of is an excuse for your individual pvp skills not being as good as others'.. By the way I like your writing style, it's very dramatic. Well, lets analyze this from a rational point of view: 1) He has money, you don't 2) He has territory, you don't 3) He plays with far more than his ship. Evolving and growing usually means leaving the little boy atitude of mindless aggression and going into more profitable and challenging endeavours. If sitting by a gate for hours and shoot eventual ducks that pass through it is your notion of entertainment either you are a 9 years old or, despite your age you stopped growing there. One thing is certain, you do have too much time in your hands. :)

Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.27 21:35:00 - [41] Originally by: Masta Killa Maybe this mature gameplay you boast of is an excuse for your individual pvp skills not being as good as others'.. Well, as I spend most of my time in fleet command ships or covert ops, I don't really feel the need to justify my abilities or contributions by tallying my kills. Maybe you do. Oh, and I wish your fantasy about how I play the game were true, it would be so much easier and less complicated than the reality of it. But then you know that already. Look, I really am sorry that you guys haven't amounted to a hill of beans, I can see how that frustrates you and causes you to make such nasty and unprovoked attacks on the forums, but it is ultimately pointless. Why? Because, quite simply, I know I am better than you, and any attempts to crush my ego are utterly futile. I can understand why you would want others to think you compare, but your smack is weak ... which, rather unsurprisingly, makes it the perfect mirror to your accomplishments. Anyway, I'd advise that you tarry here no longer, you might miss that all important kill which will add to your fortunes - I'd hate for you to miss out on that. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Masta Killa BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2006.12.27 21:40:00 - [42] Originally by: Etho Demerzel Well, lets analyze this from a rational point of view: 1) He has money, you don't 2) He has territory, you don't 3) He plays with far more than his ship. Evolving and growing usually means leaving the little boy atitude of mindless aggression and going into more profitable and challenging endeavours. If sitting by a gate for hours and shoot eventual ducks that pass through it is your notion of entertainment either you are a 9 years old or, despite your age you stopped growing there. One thing is certain, you do have too much time in your hands. :) I know this guy's alliance name is incredibly cool and all but isn't this a little too much fanboyism?
Etho Dermezel Minmatar Holy Clan of the Cone	Posted - 2006.12.27 21:46:00 - [43] Edited by: Etho Dermezel on 27/12/2006 21:46:27 Originally by: Masta Killa Originally by: Etho Demerzel Well, lets analyze this from a rational point of view: 1) He has money, you don't 2) He has territory, you don't 3) He plays with far more than his ship. Evolving and growing usually means leaving the little boy atitude of mindless aggression and going into more profitable and challenging endeavours. If sitting by a gate for hours and shoot eventual ducks that pass through it is your notion of entertainment either you are a 9 years old or, despite your age you stopped growing there. One thing is certain, you do have too much time in your hands. :) I know this guy's alliance name is incredibly cool and all but isn't this a little too much fanboyism? -V- alt corp here. This is my main account. And disregard others accomplishments and abilities because you envy or has a grudge against them is the ultimate stupidity. I have nothing to gain from my comments, but they do represent my opinion. edit - accidentaly posted with my alt on this one.
BlackMoon Thrawn the Organ Grinder and Company Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.12.27 21:55:00 - [44] The only issue is the way interdictor spheres and warp bubbbles work. If you're in one of those or scrambled you should't warp off, ever. If that were fixed I think most of the whineing would go away. If someone logs on you while under attack, as far as I know, they lose all skill based ship bonuses like mechanics boost to armor hp. It will probobly result in you getting the kill 50% of the time or so and thats good enough imo.
Masta Killa BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2006.12.27 21:56:00 - [45] Originally by: Avon Well, as I spend most of my time in fleet command ships or covert ops, I don't really feel the need to justify my abilities or contributions by tallying my kills. Maybe you do. Oh, and I wish your fantasy about how I play the game were true, it would be so much easier and less complicated than the reality of it. But then you know that already. Look, I really am sorry that you guys haven't amounted to a hill of beans, I can see how that frustrates you and causes you to make such nasty and unprovoked attacks on the forums, but it is ultimately pointless. Why? Because, quite simply, I know I am better than you, and any attempts to crush my ego are utterly futile. I can understand why you would want others to think you compare, but your smack is weak ... which, rather unsurprisingly, makes it the perfect mirror to your accomplishments. Anyway, I'd advise that you tarry here no longer, you might miss that all important kill which will add to your fortunes - I'd hate for you to miss out on that. You pretty much sit still and do nothing in your so called "combat" and you were trying to teach Evil Pookie about pvp? Maybe you should break a little part off your ego and use it to actually do something in pvp. What you do for a living is done by Burn Eden alt characters. I hope that fact makes you proud. Also, I don't see why you would expect us to own some bit of land, because where ever this corp of mine goes, the entire area becomes safer (for us) than high sec empire in a matter of 1-2 weeks. Why stay and npc, mine or whatever it is you feel is so important when you can just set up shop somewhere else and terrorize a whole another locale? I'm not going to say I don't care about the money and I'm not going to say I don't like it when my missiles slaughter that last bit of hull on a completely helpless ship but having masses of people running away or logging out at the mere sight of this famous corp name or screaming at the top of their lungs about us (coughyoulol) is pure awesomeness. As for accomplishments, if you play the way you say you do then you don't even belong close to me in pvp ranking, you belong with my trusty scouting alt. Ps. I like how you make excuses for barely never having killed anybody. Your star trek one-liners are pretty "utterly futile" too mate.
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.27 22:01:00 - [46] Please stay on fing topic, BoB get your own damn thread about how uber your covert ops pilots are, since it takes a mastermind to sit cloaked somewhere.... I wouldnt want to mess with him.... ooo Im fing scared. Anywyas... (back to nice cat) please stay on topic this is about bubbles and how they are descripted in game and how they do not do that discription, and about log off mechanics that need to be fixed. Priorities are screwed up imo. I dont care about new ships when nodes crash and other mechanics like warping out of warp INHIBITING bubbles.... DO NOT WORK! Sig nerfz0rd. Remember kids, it's 400x120 and less than 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) -Conuion Meow
Ava'Lin Mytil Blood Inquisition Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2006.12.27 22:06:00 - [47] Edited by: Ava''Lin Mytil on 27/12/2006 22:08:40 Well, staying on topic, my honest take on it, is, as it is now, you only warp off in a bubble if cloaked when you log off, this should be removed totally. how many honestly CTD jumping into a system.... I've only ever CTD'd 2-3 times on jumping in 3 yrs and not recently , luckily no one was on other side. if someone was they should have a chance to catch you, either way. As well, as timer should be increased or agression timer kept track of even when you log, if you log out in safespot in 0.0 you would disapear in 1min... But if agressed, even after ctrl+q'ing , like freighters, you would stay in space 15mins, this would fix everything. and hope they impliment both. and fix the warping off issue. which kind of ruines whole point of bubbles in 0.0, especially after putting in warp to 0km Countess's Poster & Full Poster
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.27 22:11:00 - [48] Originally by: Masta Killa What you do for a living is done by Burn Eden alt characters. I hope that fact makes you proud. Would it surprise you to know that I have more than one character? Honestly, you guys What happened to you Masta, you sell up or something? The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Morris Falter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.27 22:16:00 - [49] Bubbles are supposed to stop a warp even if they warp was started before the bubble was dropped. If/when this is fixed to work as intended, 0.0 will become beautifully dangerous again. This may well be offtopic for this forum, but hell, its more useful than yet another round of * Vs. ** (You Know What I Mean). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.27 22:17:00 - [50] Originally by: DHB WildCat Please stay on fing topic, BoB get your own damn thread about how uber your covert ops pilots are, since it takes a mastermind to sit cloaked somewhere.... I wouldnt want to mess with him.... ooo Im fing scared. I think you'll find I was on-topic. If you feel the thread was derailed, was it because I didn't completely agree with you, or because of the lack of posting mojo displayed by your corp mates? If you want CCP to actualy give some reasonable considerations to your request, then I think you may have to adopt a slightly more organised and constructive forum campaign. But then, what would I know? The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur

Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.27 22:20:00 - [51] Originally by: Morris Falter Bubbles are supposed to stop a warp even if they warp was started before the bubble was dropped. Is that your opinion, or a stated aim of CCP? Bubbles, spheres, and even POS shields need to be activated before someone warps, and I think that is intended. Being able to deploy those things once someone is in warp, and still effect them, gives them no ability to scout or avoid them, and that seems a little unbalanced to me. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Masta Killa BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2006.12.27 22:24:00 - [52] Edited by: Masta Killa on 27/12/2006 22:25:22 Adon: What part of me hating bob stereotypes is new to you? Anyways, some of you people speak of immaturity of my corp and the original poster's corp. Maybe this pile of hipocrits who are posting here and in the other locked thread by Evil Pookie should take a good look at their mouth-foaming smackposts and think about who's the immature party here? Logoffski is ridiculously hard to counter and you people know it. CCP need to puzzle together a fix for it that screws the logoffski users hard but doesn't mess up real ctd's too badly. How they're going to do it beats me. But then again CCP made Eve and I didn't.
Morris Falter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.27 22:28:00 - [53] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Morris Falter Bubbles are supposed to stop a warp even if they warp was started before the bubble was dropped. Is that your opinion, or a stated aim of CCP? Bubbles, spheres, and even POS shields need to be activated before someone warps, and I think that is intended. Being able to deploy those things once someone is in warp, and still effect them, gives them no ability to scout or avoid them, and that seems a little unbalanced to me. Check out the patch notes sometime ;) All kinds of juicy tidbits in there. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.27 22:33:00 - [54] Originally by: Masta Killa Logoffski is ridiculously hard to counter and you people know it. CCP need to puzzle together a fix for it that screws the logoffski users hard but doesn't mess up real ctd's too badly. Well, at last we manage to pull a snippet of rationality out of that mess. I agree with you, and as I stated I think logging off is lame. However, I don't think that this issue is as important as others, and certainly not worth spamming the forums over. The problem is real, but it is unimportant if it can not be addressed without, as you say, messing up real ctd's too badly. You see, if you think PvPers can moan about people logging off, it is nothing compared with the volume of complaints we will have to endure if a change comes about which results in mission runners not being able to ctrl-q because they messed up against npc's. (Or, heaven forbid, actually really ctd). Oh, and if you try to judge me based on your stereotypes then the failing is yours, not mine. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.27 23:01:00 - [55] Originally by: Avon If you want CCP to actualy give some reasonable considerations to your request, then I think you may have to adopt a slightly more organised and constructive forum campaign. But then, what would I know? Actually this is a good point, and trust me I have been trying for a few months... even sent some e-mails and had private convoes with what I thought to be higher ups in this game. They either did not recieve them or do not care, so now we will continue this until they send me a convo or e-mail or any form of communication to as what there plans are if any, or if they need help with it, Im sure the EVE community is more than willing to help. So CCP I eagerly await your response. WildCat Sig nerfz0rd. Remember kids, it's 400x120 and less than 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) -Conuion Meow
Scarcus Caldari Stain of Mind	Posted - 2006.12.27 23:13:00 - [56] Note to self...I can now post about stuff that has nothing to do with alliances or corp stuff in Alliance and Corp forum. Yippee! A frequent star in God's cosmic gag-reel. Sig removed. Inappropriate for the forums -Kaemonn
Phrixus Zephyr Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.12.28 00:29:00 - [57] Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 28/12/2006 00:29:34 Wow, how childish are the ***** lot of you. If you didn't care for the topic and stopped posting, the thread would sink like a stone. Most of you seem to care more about who's posting in here than the actual subject matter. Grow the up. Why does logging 'me' off? I lose my implants when i get popped in a bubble. Some IRON nubcake who gets popped in one doesn't lose his faction set because he ctrl-Q's. Originally by:** Victor Ramirez using it to get the layout of a new system and a quick belt-check is about as practical as using Google Earth to see if your car is still in front of your house.
Marvel Master Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.28 01:17:00 - [58] Hello, would be nice, if CCP fix this bug/exploit. A working aggro timer would be a nice solution. And fix the local please. Put all constellation guys in one local. :) I read, that this will be a new feature of a patch. Marvel
oodin Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.28 01:31:00 - [59] 1. make it impossible to log within the grid of a object. gate/station/planets/rabble rabble 2.if you still decide to log within grid, your ship is in space for 15 min and so will your pod be. 3.if ccp managed to f**k up and ctd your ship resulting in your loss then 25% of your wallet is ceized by ccp as collateral pending investigation.if the problem was caused by ccp then the isk is returned.if ccp has no records of any problem then the isk is gone (petition spamming erased) 4. logging of in combat fixed!!!!!
Zell Caldari The Black Raptors	Posted - 2006.12.28 01:36:00 - [60] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Originally by: Crozon A thread I started on the General Discussion forum Thread One idea from that thread: Make it harder to quit - Every other game asks "are you sure?" Then you go to a title menu, etc before you actually exit the game. Get rid of ctrl+q, and add the above process into the game. If quiting in space, you still show in space until you exit the game completely. Yes you could still crash the client (by using task manager etc), but it'll be harder than just pressing a key combination or clicking on the "x" in the top corner. - Either way, it should add a couple of precious seconds to those people logging off in a bubble for example while still protecting people who get legitimate game crashes/disconnects. I also think Mass log-ons need attention. Start a petition in the "Features and General Ideas" forum. You're right CCP needs to look at this, but this is probably the wrong forum for it. The ctrl q are you sure thing can easily be countered by turning off the power on your pc window mode has that lil "X" in the top right corner.... "Ginger Magician is just a nublet. I've met more people ingame that have laughed about him, than anyone else in Eve." "A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.."



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