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Caletha
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Posted - 2006.12.28 13:22:00 -
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Ok, I've been playing around with exploration probes a bit and so far I've found 2 hidden complexes and 1 hidden asteroid belt. The asteroid belt was all Bistot and actually was the first none-unknown signature that I found. I've actually seen a few unknown-signatures around my area, and scanned out 2 of those (until I decided the 3rd wasn't worth the trouble).
The thing is, both that I scanned out turned out to be the hidden complex called Hierarchy. Which in turn seems to be not more exciting then a 3/10, although in the 2nd stage, at some point, 3 Drone Patriarch spawned. Now either I'm wrong or these are either bugged, or have some other issue. I've scanned out (and cleared out) these 2 complexes, uhm, 2 weeks ago and they are still there. Empty of course, only a few buildings have respawned.
I've tried hacking on all the buildings inside these complexes (but was unable to do so), and I've blown up all buildings. But nothing special dropped.
The first stage has 3 unstable wormholes, with the description: "Your sensors show readings of the chart when you aim them at this peculiar phenomenon. From what little information you can gather you surmise that a stabling mechanism of some sort is needed for it to be safe to venture through the wormhole. But the readings also seem to indicate that this wormhole might not be a totally random natural phenomenon, but rather something that was created. When or by whom is impossible to tell and where it leads is an even bigger mystery."
Flying into them didn't do anything special though and you can't shoot at them.
Now the thing that bugs me the most is, it easily costs more then 5m to get into this complex (in scan probes), and I think the value of the complex isn't much more then 2-3m.
To give some clarification, this complex is in 0.0. Why the hell put a complex of this simplicity into 0.0 with pretty much no reward. Then again, it does fit the no-risk no-reward scheme. But its not what I expect from a 0.0 hidden complex.
Anyone else had any better luck with this complex?
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s73v3n2k
Caldari UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: s73v3n2k on 28/12/2006 17:46:30 Well its kinda looking like alot of these hidden complexes are bugged. Also in 0.0 i have found complexes and a week later found they are still there but also still empty no npc's, nothing. I am also finding new complexes which are also empty and this is in 0.0 ???
So either they have all already been done or They are bugged or CCP have found an Issue and disabled the npc spawns untill they fix it.
Also yes most don't seem worth the trouble but i keep looking because i know some contain some nice little items 
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2006.12.28 21:18:00 -
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I have zero experience with Exploration myself, but people have mentioned Archaeology and Hacking at high levels opening Exploration content that was seemingly lackluster without them. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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Caletha
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Posted - 2006.12.29 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tsanse Kinske I have zero experience with Exploration myself, but people have mentioned Archaeology and Hacking at high levels opening Exploration content that was seemingly lackluster without them.
I've tried hacking, but nothing in there allows to be hacked. I don't think I know anyone with Archeology though, so cant try that out.
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.02 14:38:00 -
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*bump*
Anyone had anymore luck from this complex?
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Sunaria
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Posted - 2007.01.02 17:34:00 -
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just shoot the hiearchy big structure and hope for an escalation. the drone site will dissapear if you kill it so that has to be the objective. Only thing to hope for is an escalation as of yet we didn't get one yet
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.02 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sunaria just shoot the hierarchy big structure and hope for an escalation. the drone site will disappear if you kill it so that has to be the objective. Only thing to hope for is an escalation as of yet we didn't get one yet
Killed the structures in 2 of the complexes and no escalation (and I mean I killed all killable structures, even the star gates which take AGES). I mean actually done the complex twice in 2 different systems. Once shooting the drone-structure called Hierarchy caused 4 Drone Patriarch to spawn, but that was pretty much it.
The complexes are still actually there (and we're talking about +3 weeks now), I'm going to petition them.
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Qual
Gallente Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.01.02 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Caletha
The complexes are still actually there (and we're talking about +3 weeks now), I'm going to petition them.
Then there are still triggers you havent activated yet. Most likely some roids you could mine for aditional spawns...
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |

Kyrios Scout
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Posted - 2007.01.05 10:38:00 -
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we found one Hierarchy complex today in -0.82TSS system al happend pretty same as descripted above, during clearing of complex we got 5 messages in all chats "Error Error Error Empty Hive"
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Ming Mongol
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Posted - 2007.01.05 11:14:00 -
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I have been running around 0.0 systems exploring and have got MANY Unknown signatures and ALL of them have turned out to be Heirachy. Also there has been no escalation - nothing good dropped - and I also get the error msg "Hive Empty" in ALL my chat boxes repeatedly. I think this is massively bugged and the frequency of Heirachy occuring leads me to think there is a very shallow pool of options in CCP's arsenal. Guys please sort this out - this was supposed to be good content addition.
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.05 11:54:00 -
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I've checked my logs to verify, but unless my logs are inaccurate, I have not gotten any message with "Empty Hive" (or anything with the word 'hive'). I also cant remember such a message. They so need to extend the 'hidden' content and make it a little easier to find (+3-4m in probes and +2 hours trying to find them is silly).
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Lynn de'Marco
Harbour Rats Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.05 12:29:00 -
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The empty hive msg comes in Radiance. Ure not mixing it up with that plex? Its also a drone plex.
I have found them both and none of them disapear and we have tried our best to try to figure out what to do.
We live in the new regions and the only plexes we have found so far is Hieracy and Radience. We even found two Radiance in same system. Problem is that killing the rats in the field gives super much more then doing these plex so they kinda worhtless. only reson for doing them is to get another one in system but since we cant "complete" them were out of luck.
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Istal Yetr
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Posted - 2007.01.12 08:32:00 -
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I have the same thing here, Found the Hierarchy complex in 3 different systems in the new 0.0 regions and nothing.
Found it a week ago and its still there.
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Qual
Gallente Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.01.12 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Caletha I've checked my logs to verify, but unless my logs are inaccurate, I have not gotten any message with "Empty Hive" (or anything with the word 'hive'). I also cant remember such a message. They so need to extend the 'hidden' content and make it a little easier to find (+3-4m in probes and +2 hours trying to find them is silly).
If you need 50-100 probes to find a site you are doing something wrong. I dont think you are though. I think you are paying to much for each probe. Don't buy probes of the market. They are way overpriced. You can build them yourself for 50k top. (Ok, you need to invest in some BPO's but they soon earn themselfs home...)
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |

Qual
Gallente Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.01.12 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Istal Yetr I have the same thing here, Found the Hierarchy complex in 3 different systems in the new 0.0 regions and nothing.
Found it a week ago and its still there.
If you dont trigger the triggers in the sute, it stays. Simple as that. Nothing strange about it.
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |

Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.12 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Qual If you need 50-100 probes to find a site you are doing something wrong. I dont think you are though. I think you are paying to much for each probe. Don't buy probes of the market. They are way overpriced. You can build them yourself for 50k top. (Ok, you need to invest in some BPO's but they soon earn themselfs home...)
I count each probe as, give or take, 100k (with current prices of stront (e.g. 5k), the make-price is around 100k). To find these 2 deadspace I've used over 20 quest probes, 4 comb, 4 pursuit, 6 sift probes (was very unlucky I guess). Which in my eyes calculates as 3-4m in probes. But this is total for both sites.
The amount of quests used is really due to system sizes (a lot of planets).
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Originally by: Qual If you dont trigger the triggers in the sute, it stays. Simple as that. Nothing strange about it.
What is the trigger in this complex then? Apparently I'm not the only one that hasnt 'found' this trigger. Destroyed all the buildings, tried to hack all the buildings, nothing seems to have worked. And my petition hasnt been answered yet. Only thing that I havent tried, as I am unable to do so, is archeology.
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Tarnish Katharr
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.01.12 11:25:00 -
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I've found Heirarchy twice this week and it appears to be nothing more than a drone hunt with some pretty scenery. Thankfully I can appritiate pretty scenery.
If you want some amusement, detonate a pair of large smartbombs next to a wormhole. That will blow up all those Drone Bunkers stacked on top of it simultaneously and gives you a pretty light show.
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WrathchildeVOTF
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Posted - 2007.01.12 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Qual
Originally by: Caletha I've checked my logs to verify, but unless my logs are inaccurate, I have not gotten any message with "Empty Hive" (or anything with the word 'hive'). I also cant remember such a message. They so need to extend the 'hidden' content and make it a little easier to find (+3-4m in probes and +2 hours trying to find them is silly).
If you need 50-100 probes to find a site you are doing something wrong. I dont think you are though. I think you are paying to much for each probe. Don't buy probes of the market. They are way overpriced. You can build them yourself for 50k top. (Ok, you need to invest in some BPO's but they soon earn themselfs home...)
Ummm....50k tops?
15 stront x 5000 isk = 7k,000isk. 50% above your price before getting to hypersynaptics and other materials.
You have ME 500 on your BPO's?
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Qual
Gallente Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.01.12 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Caletha
Originally by: Qual If you dont trigger the triggers in the sute, it stays. Simple as that. Nothing strange about it.
What is the trigger in this complex then? Apparently I'm not the only one that hasnt 'found' this trigger. Destroyed all the buildings, tried to hack all the buildings, nothing seems to have worked. And my petition hasnt been answered yet. Only thing that I havent tried, as I am unable to do so, is archeology.
Can't speak for the specific site, but all other drone sites ive been at has roids. There can very well be triggers on mining the roids...
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |

Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Qual Can't speak for the specific site, but all other drone sites ive been at has roids. There can very well be triggers on mining the roids...
No roids in this deadspace, one could only be so lucky 
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ROGUEFORT
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Posted - 2007.01.17 23:43:00 -
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Hey Guys,
I was reading this to further understand how these exploration sites work. I have been doing these for about 3 weeks now and as most of you have said some don't seem to be worth the probes to find them. I have have done several complexes all approx 3/10 but also i have also done an approx 7-8/10 which took several bs to take it down. once we completed the two rooms (which seems to be the limit) we have be given another objective several jumps away.
This objective was to take all the loot to the new bookmark where once we killed one (1) target we would get 1 billion isk - very excitedly we raced out to the location as we were on a time clock of 32mins - with 8 jumps to travel. once we reached the destination we found no spawn of anykind and all the building we invulnrable.
dissapointing i know - but promising, i believe it was bugged and further exploration has seen alot of promise with quite large bs spawning like core and avon coninyeor's (not sure how you spell that one) which are all plus a million bounty.
I have hacking - salvaging and archealogy to level four for these exploration sites but i have yet to use the code-breaker or the analyser successfully unfortunalely.
I have found it reasonably easy to find most exploration sites but i am a bit diallusioned as most of you seem as to the promise of large bounty. I think the best we have done so far is probably about 20mil out of one room shared between a few people at a cost of probes 5 mil and ammo/cap recharges.
I hope in future these bugs can be sorted out as i find exploration quite fun and the high risk - for high profit should be the name of the game. all my exploration is done in 0.0 and i have concentrated on the -0.0 as much as possible. but i have yet to find asteroid spawns or any ruins or hackable containers in any of these sites.
good luck everyone - please keep posting your experiences so we can all learn something and make billions of dollars muhuhahaha 
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tuoanh
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Posted - 2007.01.18 09:15:00 -
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hi,
i've been dong the hierachy plex. Actually nothing happened. I try to salvage, hack, analyse every piece of material in this 2 level complex. Nothing appeared. I had the same problem with the plex called independance, which is meant to be bugged.
Maybe this is the case for this plex to.
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.20 15:04:00 -
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Well I just came back from vacation, and my scanning alt (which has the petition about this complex) still hasn't received an answer. And the complex is -still- at the same place in both systems.
I wonder if I placed the petition in the right category (Events).
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Sabahl
Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 19:09:00 -
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We've been playing with one of these as well. Blown up everything that moves. Tried using every imaginable module on the wormholes. Flown the length and bredth of the clouds. Bugger all has happened.
Can we at least get a confirmation from a CCP bod that this complex is either completely bugged or that the entire player populace is stupid? |

Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.23 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sabahl Can we at least get a confirmation from a CCP bod that this complex is either completely bugged or that the entire player populace is stupid?
If only we'd be so lucky...
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Ione Hunt
Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.01.23 15:39:00 -
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I just gave up going after UNKNOWN signatures, 99% of the cases they're not worth it  _______________
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.30 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Caletha on 30/01/2007 15:27:39 Edited by: Caletha on 30/01/2007 15:24:38 Well something I didnt see before:
[15:04:20] Message > <color=0xffa3fc80>Error Error Error Empty Hive</color>.
And more BS spawned (3 Patriarch and 3 Creator's, 3 more then before). Overall though nothing special. Going to check out the one next door see if that Hive is perhaps not empty.
Unless this hive is sometimes not empty, I dont see how this could be worth the time...
And for the love of all thats holy, let industrial ships into this complex !
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Sabahl
Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.30 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Caletha Unless this hive is sometimes not empty, I dont see how this could be worth the time...
Because it SHOULD have a chance to give you a second site to go visit, i.e. escallate. From there... well, your guess is as good as ours.
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Xelios
Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.01.30 15:57:00 -
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Sounds to me like that's an actual error message generated because CCP hasn't finished that complex. Seems like it wants to turn into an expedition but the additional stages aren't complete yet.
That's the only thing we get in the new regions, those broken drone complexes. None of them have escalated yet they just spam that error message and that's it. Oh well... maybe in Revelations 1.5...
At least the ones in Angel space are working properly
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Eris Discordia

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Posted - 2007.01.30 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Xelios Sounds to me like that's an actual error message generated because CCP hasn't finished that complex. Seems like it wants to turn into an expedition but the additional stages aren't complete yet.
That's the only thing we get in the new regions, those broken drone complexes. None of them have escalated yet they just spam that error message and that's it. Oh well... maybe in Revelations 1.5...
At least the ones in Angel space are working properly
It¦s not an actual error message, it was designed into the complex. If you didn¦t get an escalation it doesn¦t mean it¦s broken.
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