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Caletha
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Posted - 2006.12.28 13:22:00 -
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Ok, I've been playing around with exploration probes a bit and so far I've found 2 hidden complexes and 1 hidden asteroid belt. The asteroid belt was all Bistot and actually was the first none-unknown signature that I found. I've actually seen a few unknown-signatures around my area, and scanned out 2 of those (until I decided the 3rd wasn't worth the trouble).
The thing is, both that I scanned out turned out to be the hidden complex called Hierarchy. Which in turn seems to be not more exciting then a 3/10, although in the 2nd stage, at some point, 3 Drone Patriarch spawned. Now either I'm wrong or these are either bugged, or have some other issue. I've scanned out (and cleared out) these 2 complexes, uhm, 2 weeks ago and they are still there. Empty of course, only a few buildings have respawned.
I've tried hacking on all the buildings inside these complexes (but was unable to do so), and I've blown up all buildings. But nothing special dropped.
The first stage has 3 unstable wormholes, with the description:
"Your sensors show readings of the chart when you aim them at this peculiar phenomenon. From what little information you can gather you surmise that a stabling mechanism of some sort is needed for it to be safe to venture through the wormhole. But the readings also seem to indicate that this wormhole might not be a totally random natural phenomenon, but rather something that was created. When or by whom is impossible to tell and where it leads is an even bigger mystery."
Flying into them didn't do anything special though and you can't shoot at them.
Now the thing that bugs me the most is, it easily costs more then 5m to get into this complex (in scan probes), and I think the value of the complex isn't much more then 2-3m.
To give some clarification, this complex is in 0.0. Why the hell put a complex of this simplicity into 0.0 with pretty much no reward. Then again, it does fit the no-risk no-reward scheme. But its not what I expect from a 0.0 hidden complex.
Anyone else had any better luck with this complex?
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s73v3n2k
Caldari
UK Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: s73v3n2k on 28/12/2006 17:46:30
Well its kinda looking like alot of these hidden complexes are bugged. Also in 0.0 i have found complexes and a week later found they are still there but also still empty no npc's, nothing. I am also finding new complexes which are also empty and this is in 0.0 ???
So either they have all already been done or They are bugged or CCP have found an Issue and disabled the npc spawns untill they fix it.
Also yes most don't seem worth the trouble but i keep looking because i know some contain some nice little items 
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2006.12.28 21:18:00 -
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I have zero experience with Exploration myself, but people have mentioned Archaeology and Hacking at high levels opening Exploration content that was seemingly lackluster without them.
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Caletha
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Posted - 2006.12.29 20:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Tsanse Kinske
I have zero experience with Exploration myself, but people have mentioned Archaeology and Hacking at high levels opening Exploration content that was seemingly lackluster without them.
I've tried hacking, but nothing in there allows to be hacked. I don't think I know anyone with Archeology though, so cant try that out.
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.02 14:38:00 -
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*bump*
Anyone had anymore luck from this complex?
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Sunaria
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Posted - 2007.01.02 17:34:00 -
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just shoot the hiearchy big structure and hope for an escalation. the drone site will dissapear if you kill it so that has to be the objective. Only thing to hope for is an escalation as of yet we didn't get one yet
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.02 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sunaria
just shoot the hierarchy big structure and hope for an escalation. the drone site will disappear if you kill it so that has to be the objective. Only thing to hope for is an escalation as of yet we didn't get one yet
Killed the structures in 2 of the complexes and no escalation (and I mean I killed all killable structures, even the star gates which take AGES). I mean actually done the complex twice in 2 different systems. Once shooting the drone-structure called Hierarchy caused 4 Drone Patriarch to spawn, but that was pretty much it.
The complexes are still actually there (and we're talking about +3 weeks now), I'm going to petition them.
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Qual
Gallente
Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.01.02 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Caletha
The complexes are still actually there (and we're talking about +3 weeks now), I'm going to petition them.
Then there are still triggers you havent activated yet. Most likely some roids you could mine for aditional spawns...
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |
Kyrios Scout
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Posted - 2007.01.05 10:38:00 -
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we found one Hierarchy complex today in -0.82TSS system
al happend pretty same as descripted above, during clearing of complex we got 5 messages in all chats
"Error Error Error
Empty Hive"
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Ming Mongol
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Posted - 2007.01.05 11:14:00 -
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I have been running around 0.0 systems exploring and have got MANY Unknown signatures and ALL of them have turned out to be Heirachy. Also there has been no escalation - nothing good dropped - and I also get the error msg "Hive Empty" in ALL my chat boxes repeatedly. I think this is massively bugged and the frequency of Heirachy occuring leads me to think there is a very shallow pool of options in CCP's arsenal. Guys please sort this out - this was supposed to be good content addition.
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.05 11:54:00 -
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I've checked my logs to verify, but unless my logs are inaccurate, I have not gotten any message with "Empty Hive" (or anything with the word 'hive'). I also cant remember such a message. They so need to extend the 'hidden' content and make it a little easier to find (+3-4m in probes and +2 hours trying to find them is silly).
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Lynn de'Marco
Harbour Rats
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.05 12:29:00 -
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The empty hive msg comes in Radiance. Ure not mixing it up with that plex?
Its also a drone plex.
I have found them both and none of them disapear and we have tried our best to try to figure out what to do.
We live in the new regions and the only plexes we have found so far is Hieracy and Radience. We even found two Radiance in same system. Problem is that killing the rats in the field gives super much more then doing these plex so they kinda worhtless. only reson for doing them is to get another one in system but since we cant "complete" them were out of luck.
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Istal Yetr
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Posted - 2007.01.12 08:32:00 -
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I have the same thing here, Found the Hierarchy complex in 3 different systems in the new 0.0 regions and nothing.
Found it a week ago and its still there.
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Qual
Gallente
Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.01.12 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Caletha
I've checked my logs to verify, but unless my logs are inaccurate, I have not gotten any message with "Empty Hive" (or anything with the word 'hive'). I also cant remember such a message. They so need to extend the 'hidden' content and make it a little easier to find (+3-4m in probes and +2 hours trying to find them is silly).
If you need 50-100 probes to find a site you are doing something wrong. I dont think you are though. I think you are paying to much for each probe. Don't buy probes of the market. They are way overpriced. You can build them yourself for 50k top. (Ok, you need to invest in some BPO's but they soon earn themselfs home...)
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |
Qual
Gallente
Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.01.12 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Istal Yetr
I have the same thing here, Found the Hierarchy complex in 3 different systems in the new 0.0 regions and nothing.
Found it a week ago and its still there.
If you dont trigger the triggers in the sute, it stays. Simple as that. Nothing strange about it.
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |
Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.12 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Qual
If you need 50-100 probes to find a site you are doing something wrong. I dont think you are though. I think you are paying to much for each probe. Don't buy probes of the market. They are way overpriced. You can build them yourself for 50k top. (Ok, you need to invest in some BPO's but they soon earn themselfs home...)
I count each probe as, give or take, 100k (with current prices of stront (e.g. 5k), the make-price is around 100k). To find these 2 deadspace I've used over 20 quest probes, 4 comb, 4 pursuit, 6 sift probes (was very unlucky I guess). Which in my eyes calculates as 3-4m in probes. But this is total for both sites.
The amount of quests used is really due to system sizes (a lot of planets).
As for:
Originally by: Qual
If you dont trigger the triggers in the sute, it stays. Simple as that. Nothing strange about it.
What is the trigger in this complex then? Apparently I'm not the only one that hasnt 'found' this trigger. Destroyed all the buildings, tried to hack all the buildings, nothing seems to have worked. And my petition hasnt been answered yet. Only thing that I havent tried, as I am unable to do so, is archeology.
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Tarnish Katharr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.01.12 11:25:00 -
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I've found Heirarchy twice this week and it appears to be nothing more than a drone hunt with some pretty scenery. Thankfully I can appritiate pretty scenery.
If you want some amusement, detonate a pair of large smartbombs next to a wormhole. That will blow up all those Drone Bunkers stacked on top of it simultaneously and gives you a pretty light show.
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WrathchildeVOTF
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Posted - 2007.01.12 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Qual
Originally by: Caletha
I've checked my logs to verify, but unless my logs are inaccurate, I have not gotten any message with "Empty Hive" (or anything with the word 'hive'). I also cant remember such a message. They so need to extend the 'hidden' content and make it a little easier to find (+3-4m in probes and +2 hours trying to find them is silly).
If you need 50-100 probes to find a site you are doing something wrong. I dont think you are though. I think you are paying to much for each probe. Don't buy probes of the market. They are way overpriced. You can build them yourself for 50k top. (Ok, you need to invest in some BPO's but they soon earn themselfs home...)
Ummm....50k tops?
15 stront x 5000 isk = 7k,000isk. 50% above your price before getting to hypersynaptics and other materials.
You have ME 500 on your BPO's?
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Qual
Gallente
Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.01.12 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Caletha
Originally by: Qual
If you dont trigger the triggers in the sute, it stays. Simple as that. Nothing strange about it.
What is the trigger in this complex then? Apparently I'm not the only one that hasnt 'found' this trigger. Destroyed all the buildings, tried to hack all the buildings, nothing seems to have worked. And my petition hasnt been answered yet. Only thing that I havent tried, as I am unable to do so, is archeology.
Can't speak for the specific site, but all other drone sites ive been at has roids. There can very well be triggers on mining the roids...
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |
Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Qual
Can't speak for the specific site, but all other drone sites ive been at has roids. There can very well be triggers on mining the roids...
No roids in this deadspace, one could only be so lucky 
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ROGUEFORT
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Posted - 2007.01.17 23:43:00 -
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Hey Guys,
I was reading this to further understand how these exploration sites work. I have been doing these for about 3 weeks now and as most of you have said some don't seem to be worth the probes to find them. I have have done several complexes all approx 3/10 but also i have also done an approx 7-8/10 which took several bs to take it down. once we completed the two rooms (which seems to be the limit) we have be given another objective several jumps away.
This objective was to take all the loot to the new bookmark where once we killed one (1) target we would get 1 billion isk - very excitedly we raced out to the location as we were on a time clock of 32mins - with 8 jumps to travel. once we reached the destination we found no spawn of anykind and all the building we invulnrable.
dissapointing i know - but promising, i believe it was bugged and further exploration has seen alot of promise with quite large bs spawning like core and avon coninyeor's (not sure how you spell that one) which are all plus a million bounty.
I have hacking - salvaging and archealogy to level four for these exploration sites but i have yet to use the code-breaker or the analyser successfully unfortunalely.
I have found it reasonably easy to find most exploration sites but i am a bit diallusioned as most of you seem as to the promise of large bounty. I think the best we have done so far is probably about 20mil out of one room shared between a few people at a cost of probes 5 mil and ammo/cap recharges.
I hope in future these bugs can be sorted out as i find exploration quite fun and the high risk - for high profit should be the name of the game. all my exploration is done in 0.0 and i have concentrated on the -0.0 as much as possible. but i have yet to find asteroid spawns or any ruins or hackable containers in any of these sites.
good luck everyone - please keep posting your experiences so we can all learn something and make billions of dollars muhuhahaha 
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tuoanh
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Posted - 2007.01.18 09:15:00 -
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hi,
i've been dong the hierachy plex. Actually nothing happened. I try to salvage, hack, analyse every piece of material in this 2 level complex. Nothing appeared. I had the same problem with the plex called independance, which is meant to be bugged.
Maybe this is the case for this plex to.
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.20 15:04:00 -
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Well I just came back from vacation, and my scanning alt (which has the petition about this complex) still hasn't received an answer. And the complex is -still- at the same place in both systems.
I wonder if I placed the petition in the right category (Events).
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Sabahl
Minmatar
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 19:09:00 -
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We've been playing with one of these as well. Blown up everything that moves. Tried using every imaginable module on the wormholes. Flown the length and bredth of the clouds. Bugger all has happened.
Can we at least get a confirmation from a CCP bod that this complex is either completely bugged or that the entire player populace is stupid? |
Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.23 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sabahl
Can we at least get a confirmation from a CCP bod that this complex is either completely bugged or that the entire player populace is stupid?
If only we'd be so lucky...
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Ione Hunt
Gekidoku
Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.01.23 15:39:00 -
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I just gave up going after UNKNOWN signatures, 99% of the cases they're not worth it 
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.01.30 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Caletha on 30/01/2007 15:27:39
Edited by: Caletha on 30/01/2007 15:24:38
Well something I didnt see before:
[15:04:20] Message > <color=0xffa3fc80>Error Error Error
Empty Hive</color>.
And more BS spawned (3 Patriarch and 3 Creator's, 3 more then before). Overall though nothing special. Going to check out the one next door see if that Hive is perhaps not empty.
Unless this hive is sometimes not empty, I dont see how this could be worth the time...
And for the love of all thats holy, let industrial ships into this complex !
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Sabahl
Minmatar
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.30 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Caletha
Unless this hive is sometimes not empty, I dont see how this could be worth the time...
Because it SHOULD have a chance to give you a second site to go visit, i.e. escallate. From there... well, your guess is as good as ours.
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Xelios
Minmatar
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.01.30 15:57:00 -
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Sounds to me like that's an actual error message generated because CCP hasn't finished that complex. Seems like it wants to turn into an expedition but the additional stages aren't complete yet.
That's the only thing we get in the new regions, those broken drone complexes. None of them have escalated yet they just spam that error message and that's it. Oh well... maybe in Revelations 1.5...
At least the ones in Angel space are working properly
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2007.01.30 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Xelios
Sounds to me like that's an actual error message generated because CCP hasn't finished that complex. Seems like it wants to turn into an expedition but the additional stages aren't complete yet.
That's the only thing we get in the new regions, those broken drone complexes. None of them have escalated yet they just spam that error message and that's it. Oh well... maybe in Revelations 1.5...
At least the ones in Angel space are working properly
It¦s not an actual error message, it was designed into the complex. If you didn¦t get an escalation it doesn¦t mean it¦s broken.
Why is this signature pink?
It is a mystery
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
Cheers Restaurant and Bar
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.01.30 21:15:00 -
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Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 30/01/2007 21:17:32
Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 30/01/2007 21:11:52
Originally by: Caletha
I count each probe as, give or take, 100k (with current prices of stront (e.g. 5k), the make-price is around 100k).
They don't take stront anymore, but I found that the cheapest source of raw materials for the new scan probes, was to melt down the old scan probes (now called recon probes). An observator probe takes up 0.05 m3 space and costs about 34k, but produces 7 strontium clathrates when melted, which occupy 21m3. You can haul an awful lot more observators than you can haul raw clathrates, and the probes are usually cheaper than the raw clathrates.
But now you don't need clathrates or fibers, so I guess the cost issue is moot.
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.02.01 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
It¦s not an actual error message, it was designed into the complex. If you didn¦t get an escalation it doesn¦t mean it¦s broken.
So this complex should (in theory) generate an escalation. If thats the case I'm doing the 2nd one next door (as reward for this complex isnt really worth the time, definitely not considering you cant even take a bloody hauler into the complex for all the loot).
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.02.01 13:07:00 -
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Well I finished the second complex (the one next door), and it didnt yield anything special. Instead of approaching the Hierarchy structure like last time, I blew it up from the get-go. No BS spawned that way though, so I'm guessing that definitely isnt the way to do it.
I know CCP wants to be all mysterious and sh*t, but a little idea of what this complex is suppose to do would be nice. As I'm still not convinced that looking for complexes in drone-space is worth it.
Scan probes might have become a lot cheaper, but my time certainly hasnt.
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SpikePT
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Posted - 2007.02.01 16:25:00 -
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Something has changed in it, i've been in it for two times now, both times i ad some frigs again, both in 1st and in 2nd lvl. No expeditions were given though, it's still there in space waiting for me to be smarter then him 
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Kael Zeratul
The Huns
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.02.17 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
Originally by: Xelios
Sounds to me like that's an actual error message generated because CCP hasn't finished that complex. Seems like it wants to turn into an expedition but the additional stages aren't complete yet.
That's the only thing we get in the new regions, those broken drone complexes. None of them have escalated yet they just spam that error message and that's it. Oh well... maybe in Revelations 1.5...
At least the ones in Angel space are working properly
It¦s not an actual error message, it was designed into the complex. If you didn¦t get an escalation it doesn¦t mean it¦s broken.
Ya just like everything else in eve its not broken its an "Unannounced Feature"
P.S. whats the secret in the Complexs don't seem to be worth the time from the little ammount of ships. Something is not as it seems.
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Dammar
Amarr
Ephorate
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Posted - 2007.02.21 20:42:00 -
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Quote:
From what little information you can gather you surmise that a stabling mechanism of some sort is needed for it to be safe to venture through the wormhole.
Anyone else think fitting a warp core stab may be what it is hinting at?
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TotensBurntCorpse
Minmatar
Miners of Moria Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.22 01:25:00 -
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try an interial stabilizer and hit the wormhole
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.02.22 15:04:00 -
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Well I've not gotten an escalation yet out of it (done it twice, cant really be arsed to find it again for a 3rd try), but apparently its an escalation complex.
Escalation to what, I dont know.
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Inspiration
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
It¦s not an actual error message, it was designed into the complex. If you didn¦t get an escalation it doesn¦t mean it¦s broken.
OMG what logic.
If the complex does not go away after this message (and everyone here says thats the case) then it is broken. It polutes space and people will waste time of their life re-scanning it over and over. Similary I got a "desolate site" in Ibura and since exploration was introduced back in December it has been there. It's broken, don't try to make it sound like it works...people still keep wasting probes on it in order to find this 'unknown signature' today.
Exploration has been a total anti-climax for many as we invested weeks of skilltraining on it (not to mention scan time and financial investments). Some even got kicked in the balls (not me luckily) when probes suddenly required no ice materials anymore (an un-announced change no less). Yet CCP seems to be realy happy about how it all works, oblivious to mistakes.
As with the mission changes currently in the works and CCP adding escalation stuff in there as well (to "compensate" the high-sec nerfing they are about to do), I realy have to wonder....
Does any of the devs actualy play the game like a large chunk of the playerbase does? Or are you totaly in the mindset of the big PvP alliances and want to make this the next shooter that has a lifespan of maybe 12 months of hype before being replaced by the new kid on the block?
My point is that your mindset is alien to us players, you lost 'connection'. That single comment you did told me everything. It's defensive and arrogant at the same time, as you can't seem to understand the players point of view and therefore just declares it 'as supposed to be'.
Peeps....you are not GODS! You do make mistakes, many small obvious ones (that you don't see) and sometimes realy big experience altering ones. With the attitude CCP and you in this particular case are displaying you are bound to make a fatal mistake rather sooner then later and loose customers! Not understanding the viewpoint of your customers is deadly to any business, be it games or otherwise! CCP as a company got this far, please don't throw it all away out like this.
Now don't get shy and hide away from forums, as we love your pressence here. We do so because we...the customers...expect this to help establish a connection that puts us into a position to have a voice too! But to get a connection, you need to have an open mind and listen very carfuly what people are trying to say. This is not always what people say, sometimes how they say things tells more then what they actualy say. We arent always magicans with words, but put effort into understanding them and you will become better developers and have a happyer playerbase too! Maybe more importantly become better as a persons in the process!
I can rant on about this seemingly forever, but I figgure I said the most important things one can say. Please try to understand where people are coming from. Look trough their eyes to the game....not just your own!
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Tacaro Drigo
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Posted - 2007.02.27 15:43:00 -
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Last Report:
Yesterday i scanned 2 Constelations in the New regions, around 16 Sytems, guess what i found. 4 Gravimetrics and 10 or 11 Unknowns. From past experiences(around 3 weeks ago), in one of this constelations, and in a 3rd one, i scanned this unknowns, scanned 4 of them, All "Hierarchy". Do you think i'm going to scan all this unknowns? Ofcaurse not. Gravimetrics? What do I want them for? i have plenty of Ore in the belts, don't need that crap, and the rats here give plenty more then the belts. Well, this is all so strange, that can't get an excuse for it. Yes, this was god forgoten Lands, noone had came here in some time, but as i eard, this WAS Gallente Space, so, we could find at least Gallente Archeology in here.
Now, the complex, i done them now more then 6 or 7 times.... nothing.
And it's not that easy. Tried to do it with 2 HACs, no way, the eagle almost poped. Heavy Tanked Eagle.
I WILL say something in here if i have something out of it.
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Xelios
Minmatar
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.02.27 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Xelios on 27/02/2007 17:11:55
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It¦s not an actual error message, it was designed into the complex. If you didn¦t get an escalation it doesn¦t mean it¦s broken.
If it were just me that didn't get an escalation I'd agree with you, but as far as I know nobody has had it escalate. We live in the new regions, we see these complexes all the time, and many in our alliance do these complexes all the time. Sometimes those error messages come up, other times they don't, but not once has it escalated. Which leads me to conclude that those error messages should be part of the escalation, but that the escalation itself is not finished / broken.
/edit Or that these complexes never disappear, which means once the escalation has been triggered the complex is forever dead. They may well have escalated in the first few days of exploration (though I did several Heirarchy and Radiance in the first week of exploration and didn't have them escalate), but now they don't. Either way, they're broken.
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Metaller
Ocean Dynamics
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:52:00 -
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ok ive done the complex 2 times after the patch they said they fixed it. And i got 2 Expeditions out of it. first one was a dead end. Second one expired cause it wanted to send me into hostile territory.
Thats what i did:
Jump through first gate, kill all rats there.
then fly to the ripped superstructure(large collidable OBJECT) now some drones(Alvi's and stuff should spawn)
then fly to acceleration gate and kill all guard drones
activate gate
Kill sentrys and rats
fire one or shots at the infested station ruins
FLY close to the hierarchy structure, then shoot at it
now drones should spawn, kill em
somewhen after you get the empty Hive message or even just then i got the expedition, i didnt had to kill all rats, i didnt even killed a single bs i think
first part of expedition is a counter of alot of drones, but can be handled alone with t2 fitted tempest with 2 heavy nos
didnt manage to get to the second part of exploration.
Have fun!!!!
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Xelios
Minmatar
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.02.28 09:42:00 -
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Just did all that stuff. Killed about 8 drone BS in the last spawn, plus a load of smaller ones. Got the empty hive message 8 times, but nothing else.
Also noticed there are some drones with exactly the same names but different stats. Mainly the guard drones and infestious swarm ones.
This is in one of the new regions.
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Aerandir Telrunya
Gallente
Bears Inc
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.01 18:22:00 -
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Ahem - Me too!! I've found two of these now (the only two I've found infact!) and I've pew pewed everything pew pewable and it well... it's still there!
Has anyone had any luck with finishing these?
Are they bugged?
If not then urm... dev's... any hints?
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Xelios
Minmatar
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.01 20:09:00 -
[45]
Just thought I'd mention, the one I finished 2 days ago didn't escalate but it did disappear at downtime.
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Anikadir
The Older Gamers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Anikadir on 02/03/2007 11:05:11
We have found and run quite a few of these in 0.0 space - and to date none of them have really been worth while doing. They were fun to start with but with no rewards in the offering, I know I for one have started giving them a miss. I'll happily do ArcSal ones, but hidden complexes are a waste of time and are bugged very badly (imagine running against a Stronghold that does 3k EM dmg every minute, and then once you manage to kill it....it drops a std missile launcher and some T1 missiles!!!).
The rats we have found drop hardly any salvage and only minimal T1 loot, the structures drop nothing, the guardians drop nothing and don't seem to drop anything when salvaging them, and the escalations go no where except into time sinks.
Oh, and maxed out exploring skills (hack, arch, et al) because I thought it would be interesting.
Mining is more worthwhile if the truth be known
/sigh
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Jita Watcher
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:24:00 -
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We've passed through the second expedition from this drone hierarcy... we stand till we got message that we lost....
some transports have already warped out .... and we dont find any data or dest.... or smthn like that...
I wander is THAT it?
its my third hierarcy failed... I just want to know - am I doing smthn wrong??? or it is the way it is? 
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CCP Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2007.03.06 14:32:00 -
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When you get the message ¦Error Error Hive Empty¦ it means you have completed the Hierarchy location. Then you have a chance of getting an escalation.
To complete Hierarchy you need to attack the hierarchy structure but don¦t kill it until the last npc groups spawned out of it to defend it.
Why is this signature pink?
It is a mystery
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KaptnSparrow
Caldari
TARDZ
Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.03.06 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Caletha
Originally by: Eris Discordia
It¦s not an actual error message, it was designed into the complex. If you didn¦t get an escalation it doesn¦t mean it¦s broken.
So this complex should (in theory) generate an escalation. If thats the case I'm doing the 2nd one next door (as reward for this complex isnt really worth the time, definitely not considering you cant even take a bloody hauler into the complex for all the loot).
it does generate one with a 60 minute timer to get there. So we raced to the new system just to run in a nice little gate camp by the lovely Burn Eden faction. It turned out there was a major fleet battle planned at this moment
...eve's worst pirate...
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Antheli
Valiant Logistics Inc.
Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.07 02:22:00 -
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There is a Hierarchy site right next to where I live, and it's been there for weeks now. After reading this thread it seems that in the second level of this complex there should be a structure that is named "Hierarchy" also I believe someone mentioned a station being in the second level of it. Yet every time I've been in this complex (5 or so) The only structures I've seen were about 8 Drone Bunkers in the first level and 2 Stargates in the second level. If I am not seeing this Hierarchy structure, does that mean that this particular complex might be bugged?
For what it matters I've never recieved the error message. At this point I really REALLY want this site to GO AWAY.
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Nox9407
Caldari
Fleet Of Elite
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Posted - 2007.03.16 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Antheli
There is a Hierarchy site right next to where I live, and it's been there for weeks now. After reading this thread it seems that in the second level of this complex there should be a structure that is named "Hierarchy" also I believe someone mentioned a station being in the second level of it. Yet every time I've been in this complex (5 or so) The only structures I've seen were about 8 Drone Bunkers in the first level and 2 Stargates in the second level. If I am not seeing this Hierarchy structure, does that mean that this particular complex might be bugged?
For what it matters I've never recieved the error message. At this point I really REALLY want this site to GO AWAY.
I'm having the exact same experience as Antheli. I shot at everything.. including the large collidable objects (amandoned Drill - ruined x3, Disfunctional Solar Harvester, Spaceshuttle Wreck w/debris and 4 Barren Asteroids).
This complex has been up for about 4 days where I am and each day I go in and the same thing happens. In the first area a small set of drones spawns when I get close to the 8 bunkers. I kill them then the bunkers then head to the gate. At the gate another group spawns, I kill them then jump though. In the second area another small group (no BS's ever) spawns to the left from the Solar Harvester. I kill them and then.... thats it. Nothing else happens at all until after the next downtime. I really wish it would just despawn for good now and maybe leave a juicy RADAR site in its place!
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Xelios
Minmatar
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.16 23:19:00 -
[52]
Originally by: "Patch Notes"
Rogue Drone escalating path dungeons should now escalate appropriately instead of not escalating at all.
So it was broken after all. Guess I'll give them another shot after the patch then.
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Caletha
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Posted - 2007.03.24 00:45:00 -
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New patch new chances. Did The Hierarchy once and Radiance once, both got to the "Error Error Error Empty Hive" part, no expedition though.
Has anyone gotten an expedition out of either The Hierarchy or Radiance hidden complex?
One good thing though, both seem to have been easier to find this time around. Both of them where found within 15-30 minutes of scanning (VERY good thing). Was this just luck or a change in the patch?
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Zerglin
GalacTECH Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2007.03.24 01:46:00 -
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I got Hierarchy in 0.0 yesterday but no bs (all drones in blood area) and get no escalation.
I kill Hierarchy before all ship, maybe it's why as said dev not kill it immediattly.
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Mangus Thermopyle
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.24 11:24:00 -
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I dont understand why the rewards has to be so crappy. I have done over 10 complexes in 0.0, and havent even found a good named item.
But I can do a 1/10 complex in a 0.9 system and have a chance to get faction items.
Is the whole exploration ment as a big time and isk sink? If not, CCP has to reward those that do exploration, especially in 0.0.
For example, I found a Sansha Provisional HQ which is not possible to solo. But why bother to get a PvE gang together, when you know that you will probably lose some ships, and you wont find anything?
And compare this to a static 0.0 complex (6/10 - 10/10), which always gives overseer thingies worth from 10mil to 100mil, and often gives kickass faction item (including stuff like gisti xlarge shield booster).
Why should a static complex (static both in content and location), give such awesome rewards, while pure deathtraps like some of the hidden complexes gives absolutely nothing?
Exploration is such a nice idea, but in its current state its nothing but frustrating. 
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Zerglin
GalacTECH Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2007.03.27 04:45:00 -
[56]
find this in know issues :
"Rogue drone hidden dungeons still don't escalate, this will most likely be fixed in the next patch due at the beginning of April."
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Aerandir Telrunya
Gallente
Bears Inc
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.27 10:06:00 -
[57]
Yep... I've now tried 5 of these plex's since the last patch and I've not got an escalation yet, so either I've been really unlucky or they are bugged. I fear the latter 
ps. I've also found other complex's (which I don't think are suppost to escalate) but the rewards arn't very good - 999x scordite, 10x 200 cap charges and 5x Veldspar mining crystals doesn't cut it for me. I hope they fix the rewards on these plex's soon or I'm going to give up searching for them.
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Brixer
Dai Dai Hai
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Posted - 2007.03.27 11:18:00 -
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The Hierarchy complex in the new 0.0 drone regions is the most rewarding exploration site to complete if you can get it to excalade to the end.
(Except the 4-Run Ship Interface BPCs which is hoovering in the 3-4B. range if built and sold)
No, you don't get a freighter load worth of alloys
The items are many, 0.01 m3 and worth upto 30m a piece.. Price might change when people find out about this gold mine.
Have phun!
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 04:08:00 -
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just ran this, did not get the escalation. got the following message in chat 3 times:
Message > <color=0xffa3fc80>Drone Signal: Notify location #9886. Hierarchy empty.</color>
once each after killing the supreme alvis BSes. I didnt kill them last, maybe that will improve the chances?
ran it solo in my absolution, not too hard.
Originally by: Snuggly
It's just so great to have an actual reason to not die, incentive is fantastic!
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Zerglin
GalacTECH Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2007.04.11 16:27:00 -
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anyone can tell me if this mission look different from drone region or another 0.0 space ?
i do it in my 0.0 space but loot was very low and no special bpc/salvage part etc to find
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MicaNielsen
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Posted - 2007.07.18 18:21:00 -
[61]
Are there any updated intel on the Hierarchy sites ?
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Metaller
Ocean Dynamics
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.19 08:28:00 -
[62]
they work fine now, loot is pretty crappy, but they work.
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DeathTax
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Posted - 2007.07.28 06:17:00 -
[63]
I have done Hierarchy exploration site twice and I did have it escalate once, when I finished all the fifth stages I picked up this out of the wreck. (Please ignore the liquid ozone and tractor beam)
DeathTax
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