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Fto Cruise
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:08:00 -
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Well, it has its uses, but when it comes to buying and selling , for me, it fails miserably.
So, are you happy with it as is, or are there changes you'd like to see implemented?
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Nimie
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:18:00 -
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raise default to two contracts.
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:23:00 -
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no im not happy.
the contract system is not so bad but without the possibility to have all mods show up on market when put for sale there the contract system itself isnt designed for selling of items like escrow were.
and for the love of whatever god you believe in let me contract containers if i want to damnit!!!!!
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tiller
MAFIA
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:25:00 -
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I've looked at it once since kali, it's unusable. Needs a setting to view all regions on a single page like before.
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Bastogne
Caldari
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:27:00 -
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Needs to look more like the old escrow system, but with contract functionality and please fix all of the contract bugs that are being exploited.
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Cupertino
Castellum
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:28:00 -
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It's not nearly as useful as Escrow.
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Cupertino
It's not nearly as useful as Escrow.
escrow was a mess.
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Athren Soulsteal
Gallente
Intergalaxy Salvage And Repair
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:31:00 -
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Actally you can contract a container of stuff.
But the limit on contracts is way to low, at least 5 with aditional per trade skill should be available.
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Fodderrr
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:34:00 -
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Its annoying i cant set up a courier mission for cruisers/bc because it calculates a ships default m3 instead of its repackaged m3 and theres a limit to how big the courier m3 can be.
And im being taxed!
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tiller
MAFIA
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: Cupertino
It's not nearly as useful as Escrow.
escrow was a mess.
escrow was simplistic but did the job perfectly, i wanted XYZ, there it was ready to buy after inspection.
now finding stuff is just luck...
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: Cupertino
It's not nearly as useful as Escrow.
escrow was a mess.
escrow was simplistic but did the job perfectly, i wanted XYZ, there it was ready to buy after inspection.
now finding stuff is just luck...
well, if they sorted so all faction and officer items showed up in the regular market interface i could live with it.
and a slightly higher base amount of contracts.
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Drachma Golea
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Fto Cruise
Well, it has its uses, but when it comes to buying and selling , for me, it fails miserably.
So, are you happy with it as is, or are there changes you'd like to see implemented?
The only 3 things I actually don't like is
1. That in the simple view you get to see the contract name or something
2. Scamming is just so easy.
(descriptions like zydrine x 40000, but it's really only 1 zydrine offered,
and you have to open the contract for that.
3. you can only search 1 region at a time.
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LordSlay Them
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:44:00 -
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I hate it.
I used to be able to escrow anything, anywhere, in an XYZ fashion. Now, I have to BE IN THE REGION, and the tax is just stupid.
It was nice being in empire and have my alt in 0.0 and just say "escrow to: alt" while still in emp and have my alt get it. Now....pffft, I have to friggn be there beside him to trade anything, why not just TRADE.
Contrcts are nigh useless, go ahead CCP, screw them up the rest of the way to make this game a tad bit more unplayable and full of bugs.
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Hohenheim OfLight
Pegasus Mining and Securities
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:52:00 -
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contracts have removed all the usfull features that we had and replaced them with crap, its flassh crap but its still crap none the less.
For the love of god ccp sort it out.
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Megadon
Caldari
Deathshead Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:54:00 -
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It pretty much sucks.
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Tousaka Langley
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Posted - 2006.12.28 16:56:00 -
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I prefer it to escrow.
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Caesium
Amarr
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:05:00 -
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Can not place bids on auctions from remote regions - retarded
Can not do a search against all regions - retarded
Can not search for Module* (ie x-type - all modules) - retarded
Can contract fitted ships with cargo intact - good
Can auction (albeit with above limitation) - good
Overall right direction poor implementation.
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Hellraiza666
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:08:00 -
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I prefer the old escrow system. Now i cant escrow stuff cause owner of station dont like me  . So how am i suppose to sell my old ships and equip now?
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Anatolius
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:10:00 -
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No.
Outrageous tax, outrageous deposits, stupidly low number of contracts by default (Oh good, time to train even more useless skills), horribly confusing interface (We'll show # of items here, but not there), restricted to single regions, stupidly low limit of number of items you can put into a contract, et cetera.
It'll be perfectly servicable once more work is done on tweaking things, but for now, the old escrow system lords over it like Gold Bender lords his cowboy hat over normal Bender.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:14:00 -
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Worst feature since jump queues.
Interface is too complicated, too many steps just to set up one single item, I could aswell use the market and have nearly the same costs, only good thing is the search funktion and sorting the list.
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DarkPanther
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:20:00 -
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I prefer escrow but ccp sort the map out first plz tar 
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Elliot Reid
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:25:00 -
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I put something on a contract for my alt but she couldn't see it. I've done it before and had no problem but last night it started to really **** me off  . I had to cancel the contract and trade. I was just trying to save me travelling to the same system.
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Rekless Revenge
Knights of Ni
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:28:00 -
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It is nice and has lots of good points over the old Escrow, but it does have its downside as already pointed out. However, it could have potential for all these things to get sorted out.
Personally I will never, ever, ever use contracts to buy stuff until CCP fix how easy it is to scam people. Even if you check, re-check, triple check, you still don't really know if you are about to be scammed. At least in the old Escrow you could determine a scam by a simple check.
So in the end I only really use it swap stuff between me and my alt.
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Pick Me
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: Pick Me on 28/12/2006 17:34:28
Yes, very happy!
Anything that prevent people from doing boring actions repeatedly like refreshing their escrows, is very good.
For unique items, you use contract, for the rest, the market like everyone else.
You pay tax everywhere.
When there is only one item, they should really put a "x 1" next to the item description thou.
Escrow is like the old trade channel, you think you need it until you realise you are better without it if you only change the way you see the world. It's all good!
Now they remove auctions from the forum completely (forcing it into contract) and we are all set. |
Apocryphai
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:34:00 -
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Hate it. Hate it more than I hate the new map, and I hate that quite a lot 
Only being able to search 1 region at a time is the most retarded decision ever. As if Jita wasn't concentrated enough already.
The 2nd most retarded decision ever was the one to omit the "x 1" when there's only 1 unit of something. Like.... DUH! Moronic. Contracts interface is counter-intuitive and clearly untested. CCP mae the worst interfaces known to mankind and contracts have expanded the awfulness.
I give the Contracts system a 3/10.
Originally by: Victor Valka
What the skull-chick said.
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Phyrr
Minmatar
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: Cupertino
It's not nearly as useful as Escrow.
escrow was a mess.
escrow was simplistic but did the job perfectly, i wanted XYZ, there it was ready to buy after inspection.
now finding stuff is just luck...
There's a search function, that sorta throws your "luck" idea out.
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Derran
Minmatar
Khumatari Holdings
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
escrow was simplistic but did the job perfectly, i wanted XYZ, there it was ready to buy after inspection.
now finding stuff is just luck...
Escrow was basically just another, better version of the market. It got you around broker fees and such and you could advertise everywhere. I frankly saw no reason for the market when there was escrow since you can't put faction items on market. The amount of default contracts you can do is rather low but I have no problem with contracts beyond that. I also like how you can right click on an item in your hanger and select 'create contract'. I've put a few items in escrow by accident before. I found the escrow interface rather bad. Sometimes it looked as if certain items were selected even though I never clicked on them.
Originally by: Hellraiza666
I prefer the old escrow system. Now i cant escrow stuff cause owner of station dont like me . So how am i suppose to sell my old ships and equip now?
Crazy idea. Just off the top of my head. Don't put stuff in stations of people who don't like you. How's that?
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Goneanti Swift
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:47:00 -
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I'm not very fond of the contract system. It's extremely limited in several areas. The worst part I see of the fees and deposits and such is, if someone gets lucky and gets a very expensive item, the cost to put it up for auction could be completely outside the resources of a seller.
Say you're a fairly new character running a cosmos mission, and you get a data interface bpo. Putting it up for auction could easily cost that character 30-40 million in fees and deposits, which is more than that character has probably touched over his life. He can't sell it on the market, he can't sell it on contract, so they're left trying to sell it in the forums, or in chat channels. Similar things with storyline mission or LP rewards, T2 bpo luck, etc. That seems like a major failure in the new system to me, if it's preferable to use OOG communications over the in-game system you designed.
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Phyrr
Minmatar
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Goneanti Swift
I'm not very fond of the contract system. It's extremely limited in several areas. The worst part I see of the fees and deposits and such is, if someone gets lucky and gets a very expensive item, the cost to put it up for auction could be completely outside the resources of a seller.
Say you're a fairly new character running a cosmos mission, and you get a data interface bpo. Putting it up for auction could easily cost that character 30-40 million in fees and deposits, which is more than that character has probably touched over his life. He can't sell it on the market, he can't sell it on contract, so they're left trying to sell it in the forums, or in chat channels. Similar things with storyline mission or LP rewards, T2 bpo luck, etc. That seems like a major failure in the new system to me, if it's preferable to use OOG communications over the in-game system you designed.
Cosmos don't drop data interfaces exploration does and also a "new" charcter running cosmos needs hacking and archaeology to nab the good stuff. If they are running cosmos they arent that dumb or new they can also spam local with WTS.
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Goneanti Swift
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Posted - 2006.12.28 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Phyrr
Cosmos don't drop data interfaces exploration does and also a "new" charcter running cosmos needs hacking and archaeology to nab the good stuff. If they are running cosmos they arent that dumb or new they can also spam local with WTS.
You missed the whole point getting hung up on a bad example, but at the same time completely justified my point. If shouting "WTS BPO" is a more preferred method of making the sell, auctions are failing.
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