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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.01.01 00:35:00 -
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Hi there! I have been working on a mini-faq about the Empire High-Sec aspect of POSes. It's not yet complete, but a friend with the PDF convertion tool was available now and he may be drunk tomorow so, I'm posting what I have ATM.
It's is not intended to be a complete guide for everything, just the High-Sec stuff that people keep asking on the forums. For the rest, there are a few very good guides out there, stickified and all. No need to duplicate.
I will be adding more questions/answers soon(TM) like:
* Concord protection stuff * Tips to get the fuel * some more things...
Comments, corrections and constructive criticism are welcome.
Empire High-Sec POS FAQ
My thanks to Chribba and all eve-files.com staff. May the veldspar be with you! |

Ky Vatta
Caldari Empire Mining and Industrial Taskforce
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Posted - 2007.01.01 00:54:00 -
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Edited by: Ky Vatta on 01/01/2007 00:54:03
Very interesting facts indeed, though I knew quite a few of them already
IMHO, however, it`s only reasonably feasible if you have some very exclusive BPOs....
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ForceM
POS Builder Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.01 09:54:00 -
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Nice draft shameless ..
Contact me ingame plz .. i got some extra info for you
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Tirg
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.01.01 17:00:00 -
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I've edited this thread into the useful links sticky:)
forum rules
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Krav
Egad Inc. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 18:29:00 -
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Few missing/incorrect details for your draft Shameless:
FAQ 4: Standings are not bugged, but they are displayed after social skills. POS anchoring depends on standings before social skills. Show compositions displays standings before social skills, thus why it is used to determine if you have sufficient standings.
FAQ 10: Hi-Sec POS's can also anchor assembly arrays, for instance Large Ship Assemblies can be anchored in 0.5 and below. It doesn't save minerals but it has a mod on time so that using this will be faster than building from an npc station manufacturing line. I admit it's not horribly useful considering the fitting req's, but to each his own, it deserves mention. I believe t2 production is also done at POS's but I'd have to check the item db for any sec level restrictions.
Krav =====
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Sofitia Mourtos
Viper Intel Squad Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.01 20:22:00 -
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maybe add something about what happens if your corp standing goes below the required level again (aka nothing)...
Someone wrote in another topic
Quote:
After my corpmates rejoined the corp and standings went down the drain I kept the POS running, offlined/onlined modules, unanchored/reanchored modules. I even move some things around to make the POS look pretty. The only thing I have never done is to unanchor/offline the tower itself.
It's been said that as long as you don't un-anchor the tower you are ok.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.01.04 00:22:00 -
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* I got included in the useful links sticky! \0/ (Thanks Tirg!) * Some typos have been fixed. * Some answers have been fixed (thanks Krav) * Question/Answer added about standings gowing down (thank's Sofitia Mourtos) * Info about concord protection was added. * Info about jump-clones was added. |

Dregena
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.04 00:36:00 -
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V.Good Guide Good Job
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Callan Skiderlar
LIfeline Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.01.04 00:40:00 -
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Can you anchor reactors and silos in a high sec POS? ---
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.01.04 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: Callan Skiderlar Can you anchor reactors and silos in a high sec POS?
I have no idea, but I do have a silo few jumps away from my Hi-Sec POS. The only thing that survived my Low-Sec Moon Mining Adventure :( . I will make a test and let you know, will also include it on the FAQ. |
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ForceM
Gallente POS Builder Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.05 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Callan Skiderlar Can you anchor reactors and silos in a high sec POS?
Silo's yes .. at least in 0.5 (tested) Reactors i do not know.
Me being a pessimist is a win-win situation: Either i am right .. or its even better then i said. |

Marena Bijo
Black Ice Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.05 12:13:00 -
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Quote: 7) How long does it take to raise my corporate standings?
Corp standing changes are calculated at downtime. They slowly change towards the average standing of all your corp members. Slowly here is defined as one forth of the difference between your current standing and the average standing.
Daily Standing Change = (Average Standings û Current Standings) / 4
Shame this isnt working right now. I want to put up a POS in a 0.5, my corp has 3 members and compositions are 7.8, 7,74 and 5.14. The last 5 DTs have shown zero increase and its really beginning to **** me off.
Had a similar problem a few months back and it took ages to be resolved. Point is this feature just seems broke half the time and you need to constantly submit Bug Reports and petitions to get it working again.
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Avaleric
Amarr The Eschatologists
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Posted - 2007.01.05 13:57:00 -
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Same here - quit corp and started up new to get station. Standing increased 3.65 points 1st downtime, and then nothing for the following 2...
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.01.05 14:42:00 -
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To Marena Bijo & Avaleric:
1st, make sure you are looking the standings with 'right click >> show compositions'. Or check your standings with an alt (not part of the corp).
If that's not it...
2nd try doing a storyline mission.
if that doesn't work...petition it.
Last time I did it, the numbers in "show compositions" were raising, but the other one kept showing the same old standings with no change at all. And I also was doing at least one storyline per day.
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Marena Bijo
Black Ice Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.05 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Shameless Avenger To Marena Bijo & Avaleric:
1st, make sure you are looking the standings with 'right click >> show compositions'. Or check your standings with an alt (not part of the corp).
If that's not it...
2nd try doing a storyline mission.
if that doesn't work...petition it.
Last time I did it, the numbers in "show compositions" were raising, but the other one kept showing the same old standings with no change at all. And I also was doing at least one storyline per day.
Thanks for the response Avenger. Yea I've looked in the right place and been doing missions. It was after reading your FAQ I was sure it should have been increasing, regardless of whether I missioned or not. Anyway I've submitted a bug report and will maybe petition when I get on later.
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Extregar Qvint
Caldari Storm Executive
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Posted - 2007.01.05 17:40:00 -
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That bug is most annying, i started my own corp 6 days ago to setup a empire pos... Corp still ha s totally neutral standings, thou i have +5 natural standing towards caldari. 
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Caliwyrm O'Libr
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: Caliwyrm O''Libr on 05/01/2007 19:45:38 Q) Is there any reason to take Anchoring past level I? Looking at the skill I don't see any kind of modifier (ie "-5% Anchoring Time" per level)
Q) Is there any 'better' NPC corp to run missions for to get racial Charters? So far I've only been offered around 100 Charters as LP offers from random L1 agents and only one time per agent. (I know they are available on the market but I also don't like being dependant on other people's whims. It wouldn't take much ISK to buy ALL the reasonably priced available charters in a region and either double their price or just sit on them)
(LOL oops.. Didn't see your "Things to be added" when I typed in my last question)
Originally by: NAP Discerning customers > Fanboys. People who demand good service aren't necessarily whiners.
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ForceM
Gallente POS Builder Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.05 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Extregar Qvint That bug is most annying, i started my own corp 6 days ago to setup a empire pos... Corp still ha s totally neutral standings, thou i have +5 natural standing towards caldari. 
you gotha jumpstart it .. by doing a storyline mission ...
Me being a pessimist is a win-win situation: Either i am right .. or its even better then i said. |

Fitz VonHeise
The New Order. United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.01.06 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Shameless Avenger 18. Can I rent Lab Slots in my POS? No.
You need to amend this a bit. You can rent Lab slots but only to a person's alt who becomes a member in the corp. That alt is given limited rights and access to one lab modual and their own personal corp hanger. (How this is actually done I'm not sure. I had this same arrangement with R0me0 before we had issues.) (click his name)
Maybe he will grace us with his presence and tell us how this is done. 
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.01.06 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: Marena Bijo [/quote
Thanks for the response Avenger. Yea I've looked in the right place and been doing missions. It was after reading your FAQ I was sure it should have been increasing, regardless of whether I missioned or not. Anyway I've submitted a bug report and will maybe petition when I get on later.
Yup, I didn't mention the storyline thing on the FAQ and it should be there. I will add it on the next update.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.01.06 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Shameless Avenger 18. Can I rent Lab Slots in my POS? No.
You need to amend this a bit. You can rent Lab slots but only to a person's alt who becomes a member in the corp. That alt is given limited rights and access to one lab modual and their own personal corp hanger. (How this is actually done I'm not sure. I had this same arrangement with R0me0 before we had issues.) (click his name)
Maybe he will grace us with his presence and tell us how this is done. 
For clarity, I will change the question to "Can I rent Lab Slots in my POS to the public?". The answer is still no.
Renting slots to corp members may be posible, the interface is there I've seen it but haven't test it. I don't see it as a good idea anyway because if somebody queue a job for 30 days, then cancel it, the slot will be stuck for 30 days unless you offline/unanchor/reanchor/online the lab, effectivelly messing up all other jobs in that lab. |

Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.01.06 06:10:00 -
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Originally by: Caliwyrm O'Libr Edited by: Caliwyrm O''Libr on 05/01/2007 19:45:38 Q) Is there any reason to take Anchoring past level I? Looking at the skill I don't see any kind of modifier (ie "-5% Anchoring Time" per level)
Q) Is there any 'better' NPC corp to run missions for to get racial Charters? So far I've only been offered around 100 Charters as LP offers from random L1 agents and only one time per agent. (I know they are available on the market but I also don't like being dependant on other people's whims. It wouldn't take much ISK to buy ALL the reasonably priced available charters in a region and either double their price or just sit on them)
(LOL oops.. Didn't see your "Things to be added" when I typed in my last question)
1) I haven't go through all the requirements for the different POS structures. Some may require an upper level of the anchoring skill but the thruth is I don't know. I am in the process of making a list of all anchorable thingies, to list what can be anchored where. The requirements for the anchoring skill is gonna be a column on that list.
2) Last time I got charters from an agent it was a lvl 4 and he gave me charters for the whole month. But that's changed now, the rewards are cash-only. I'm buying them off the market. |

Avaleric
Amarr The Eschatologists
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Posted - 2007.01.06 15:01:00 -
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About the frozen corp faction standing: It is just a display bug. Check the corp standing with antother char, and it is just as it is supposed to be.
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Marena Bijo
Black Ice Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.06 22:29:00 -
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I've checked with character inside and outside the corp and had friends check. its not shifting. If there is a display bug going around maybe I'll try putting up a POS anyway and see what happens.
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Mazhius
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Posted - 2007.01.06 22:41:00 -
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and what happens to the POS if I close corp? does it stay on?
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Akaani
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Posted - 2007.01.07 01:16:00 -
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"Adobe Reader could not open 'Empire_High-Sec_POS_FAQ_V1-1.pdf' because it is either not a supported file type or because the file has been damaged (for example, it was sent as an email attachment and wasn't correctly decoded)."
Would you mind just copy and pasting the information into a regular post like most people do, instead of requiring us to download a file on a non-CCP affiliated website? Thanks.
And thanks for taking the time to write a guide and post it here.
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Keshi Linegod
Amarr Space Turtle Services
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Posted - 2007.01.07 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Akaani "Adobe Reader could not open 'Empire_High-Sec_POS_FAQ_V1-1.pdf' because it is either not a supported file type or because the file has been damaged (for example, it was sent as an email attachment and wasn't correctly decoded)."
Would you mind just copy and pasting the information into a regular post like most people do, instead of requiring us to download a file on a non-CCP affiliated website? Thanks.
And thanks for taking the time to write a guide and post it here.
Try useing Foxit Reader to view the file, mutch faster and eaiser on the cpu then the defult adobe reader. You might have also got a bad download (rare but it happens). Just try redownloading it. -------------------------------------------------- EvE is a sand box. Build a sand castle and beg someone to come destroy it just so you can have the fun of building it up again.
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Tanis Bastar
Caldari Interstitial Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.01.07 17:40:00 -
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Is corp standing calculated on the basis of ALL corp members, or only those with a non-zero standing toward the relevant faction?
I have a nine member corp, but when I look at the standing compositions, usually only one or two members are shown (ie, those with some kind of standing already).
If only one or two members seem to influence standing toward a particular faction, then will I be able to achieve the necessary corp standing by just improving those corp members' standings toward the relevant faction?
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Loraen
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tanis Bastar Is corp standing calculated on the basis of ALL corp members, or only those with a non-zero standing toward the relevant faction?
I have a nine member corp, but when I look at the standing compositions, usually only one or two members are shown (ie, those with some kind of standing already).
If only one or two members seem to influence standing toward a particular faction, then will I be able to achieve the necessary corp standing by just improving those corp members' standings toward the relevant faction?
Everyone has non-zero standing towards every faction as soon as they do at least 1 storyline mission. For example, a gallente gets a gallente bonus, a derived smaller bonus to minnie and derived negative modifiers to caldari and amarr standings. Thus it helps to be "racist" in the beginning when you want to set up POSes.
As for the display bug.. when you're not in-game, go to your EVE install directory and delete the directory "machonet" (it's in the cache subdir). The game likes to show you age-old cached values for some reason.. This also helps speed up game boot-up as it just creates a new machonet cache folder instead of dredging up all the cached old erroneous data from it..
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Tanis Bastar
Caldari Interstitial Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.01.07 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Loraen Everyone has non-zero standing towards every faction as soon as they do at least 1 storyline mission.
Right, but several corp members have not done any storyline missions for any faction; in this case, because they have no standing, they will not be counted toward the corp average standing, correct?
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ForceM
Gallente POS Builder Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.07 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tanis Bastar
Originally by: Loraen Everyone has non-zero standing towards every faction as soon as they do at least 1 storyline mission.
Right, but several corp members have not done any storyline missions for any faction; in this case, because they have no standing, they will not be counted toward the corp average standing, correct?
Correct ..
Me being a pessimist is a win-win situation: Either i am right .. or its even better then i said. |

Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.08 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: Hockston Axe on 08/01/2007 19:55:09
Quote:
21) What is a good choice for a research alt? Caldary industry-engineer (achura). They come with Lab OP V out of the box. You can start training Adv Lab OP and Scientific Networking right away.
To add to this give them +3 Int and +2 Mem on creation, then train cybernetics to level 2, throw on +3 implants (on Int & Mem) and youÆve got 22.44 Int and 13.26 Mem only 3 hours out of the box. EveMon says to train Instant Recall to 3 (5.5 hours +1 Mem) and then you can get Science IV, Research IV, Metallurgy IV, SN, and Adv Lab Ops III in only 6 days 20 hours, 13 days 20 hours if you go for Adv Lap Ops IV. The skills you need to buy will cost about 30M, since you ran missions to get standing you probably have a stack of implants laying around somewhere.
ThatÆs fast enough that you can use one of the extra character slots and get a pretty good research alt with only a week or two of skill training diverted from the main character. If a really dedicated research character you get 31.94 Int and 24.23 Mem with the learning skills maxed and +4 implants. With those attributes it would take 25 days 12 hours to take Sc, Re, Met, & AdLadOp all to level 5 from scratch. 20 days 5 hours for each Engineering/Physics skill from level 0 to 5 (16 days 15 hours for each level 5).
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Quutar
Caldari Auraxian Irregulars
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Posted - 2007.01.08 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Hockston Axe Edited by: Hockston Axe on 08/01/2007 19:55:09
Quote:
21) What is a good choice for a research alt? Caldary industry-engineer (achura). They come with Lab OP V out of the box. You can start training Adv Lab OP and Scientific Networking right away.
To add to this give them +3 Int and +2 Mem on creation, then train cybernetics to level 2, throw on +3 implants (on Int & Mem) and youÆve got 22.44 Int and 13.26 Mem only 3 hours out of the box. EveMon says to train Instant Recall to 3 (5.5 hours +1 Mem) and then you can get Science IV, Research IV, Metallurgy IV, SN, and Adv Lab Ops III in only 6 days 20 hours, 13 days 20 hours if you go for Adv Lap Ops IV. The skills you need to buy will cost about 30M, since you ran missions to get standing you probably have a stack of implants laying around somewhere.
ThatÆs fast enough that you can use one of the extra character slots and get a pretty good research alt with only a week or two of skill training diverted from the main character. If a really dedicated research character you get 31.94 Int and 24.23 Mem with the learning skills maxed and +4 implants. With those attributes it would take 25 days 12 hours to take Sc, Re, Met, & AdLadOp all to level 5 from scratch. 20 days 5 hours for each Engineering/Physics skill from level 0 to 5 (16 days 15 hours for each level 5).
train cybernetics to a 1... +3s only need cybernetics 1... +4s require cybernetics 4
Not finding research slots in Empire Space? Try Quutar Research Services. |

Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Quutar
train cybernetics to a 1... +3s only need cybernetics 1... +4s require cybernetics 4
I didn't check that, I was thinking they needed lvl 2. I left out the training time for +4's and learning skills.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.01.09 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tanis Bastar
Originally by: Loraen Everyone has non-zero standing towards every faction as soon as they do at least 1 storyline mission.
Right, but several corp members have not done any storyline missions for any faction; in this case, because they have no standing, they will not be counted toward the corp average standing, correct?
Correct. If they don't appear in the "show compositions" section, they don't count. Only those with standing (positive or negative) will count. Weird as it seems, the guy who worked hard but still have a 4.5 standing need to be temporaly left out of the corp, while the lazy-arse with 0.0 standing could stay.
I can't confirm why they implement it that way. But IMO it seems they took into account that some people have alts who do nothing but refining, hauling or some non-important stuff. These alts don't have standings but should not count cuz they are just alts. But that's only my theory. |

Ezlo Murkin
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Posted - 2007.01.09 17:35:00 -
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I had a few quick questions that I haven't been able to find an answer yet:
1) If your corporation standing towards the empire faction falls below 5.0 (if you're in a 0.5 system), do you then lose Concord protection? You'll just need to put up defences to defend it since it won't be Concord protected anymore, is that true?
2) If you let your CT go offline due to lack of fuel, but your faction standing is still good (above 5.0 if you're in a 0.5 system I guess), will you still have Concord protection? I'm just wondering what will happen if I create a single person corp, deploy a POS in empire, then can't play the game for a month, will my station get blowd up or will it "expire" if it's just sitting there offline for too long?
Thanks for the guide, I am just starting to look into the empire POS and it helped a lot!
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.01.09 19:01:00 -
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To All:
I have uploaded a new version with some more Q/A and more details on some of the old ones. I'm still looking for help to make a list of what can be anchored where, if you want to contribute, contact me in-game.
To Ezlo Murkin:
About your questions...
1) If your corp standings falls below the required number, concord will still respond to any attack on the POS. I just tested again a few minutes ago, with the corp standings below 2.0 and concord showed up in less than 5 seconds. A full concord armada detroyed the alt's velator in one voley.
2) I haven't tested (nor I will) but I read reports of people getting concordokken for attacking offline POS in high sec. That was a month ago, Dec 2006. However, I'm sure you can not leave a POS offlined forever. Must likely, somebody will find out and if it has been offlined for months, I guess it's petitionable and a GM could take the POS off the map. Just as they do with the secure cans anchored at the moons. But's that's only IMHO.
And remember there's an old EVE motto, here in POS version: "Don't anchor anything you can't afford to lose". Even more, the moment you undock on your industrial with the Control Tower in your cargo bay, consider it lost. Anyone can gank you from that point and destroy it.
Also remember that if an offline POS gets attacked by something like a ganka-raven, most likely a few Labs will be destroyed before concord shows up. Concord responds to attacks, but do not prevent them.
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Konnichi Wa
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Posted - 2007.01.13 20:49:00 -
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I have a proplem. I'm in a newly startet corp, with only goal to setup a reserch POS. we are 4 guys, mixed of friends friends, and like that. baseline is that i never trust people when it comes to ISK ingame, I have been scammed a few times, and lost alot of isk that way. I read the forum the past few days, and you'r PDF, very nice indeed!! you cant rent out slots to other persons or corps, and you cant use a personal hangar, but only a corp hangar. My current CEO have made it such that we each got a corphangar witch only I "and the CEO" have acces to. That itself is cool, if I were the CEO, but since I dont trust anyone anymore. hmm. I would hate to wakeup one day and notice that the CEO ran off with all my capital ship BPO's and my corpmates BPO's aswell. Question is now :) BPO lockdown, if you lockdown a BPO, can it still be reserched, or is it just lying around in the hangar, locked? How much does it takes to get it unlocked again, like, can the CEO just unlock it and take off? is it share-controlled? I dont think my CEO would ever do that, but I'm always thinking worst case scenerio. When I get more BPO's I'll prolly make my own corp, but I'm just a little interrestet in how it all works :D
Thanks. Konnichi Wa.
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Liliane Woodhead
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Posted - 2007.01.14 06:17:00 -
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First a big Thanks to Shameless Avenger for his excellent work on doing his FAQ. The second goes to CCP for letting us do POS-work in highsec and breath a little of the industrial air. I'm sure some of us want more and this is a start to lowsec thingies :)
Q) I usualy name my ships "worstcase", and i think of the day when CCP cuts off the concord protection for my station.So what setting for guns, autocannons, lasers or stasis, scramble, torpedo,cruise and all the other pretty things that are available for POS defense should i use with my little small tower and 3 labs arround it ?
P.S.: I know that some of the above is simple impossible trough the lack of CPU and that i can leave defensive structure offline, online it later while removing a lab. But what should i anchor ? :)
3rd Thanks to the person who makes this clear.
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Contralto
Dunroamin Research Labs
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Posted - 2007.01.14 11:44:00 -
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#27 in the FAQ, I can confirm that if you start a new corp, it is not born with your standings. Furthermore it will just sit there indefinitely until you do a mission for NPC standings or a storyline for Faction standings.
For confirmation check out the corp im in at the moment. I have done no missions since forming it.
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18 Rabbit
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Posted - 2007.01.14 17:53:00 -
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Might put in some sample configurations, tips on the process of management (fuel, swapping guns, etc), for those who have never managed a POS.
Great job.
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Ellinora
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Posted - 2007.01.15 04:45:00 -
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Few questions: What standings cross over from membership to corp standings, natural, or adjusted with connections? Also, how likely is it that someone would bother attempting to take down a large research POS with some defenses(Read: 5~ large arties with ewar equip) in .5+?
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.01.15 05:26:00 -
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Nice FAQ. One minor change I would advise. Anchoring skill to level three and not one. It's "must have" in 0.0 for med bubbles and it allows full coverage of all the POS modules.
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Max Kentarii
Chaos Faction
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Posted - 2007.01.22 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Contralto #27 in the FAQ, I can confirm that if you start a new corp, it is not born with your standings. Furthermore it will just sit there indefinitely until you do a mission for NPC standings or a storyline for Faction standings.
For confirmation check out the corp im in at the moment. I have done no missions since forming it.
"You cannot anchor that structure because [insert faction], who hold sovereignty, require your corporation to have a standing of [insert standing] from them. Your corporation's standing is too low at 0.0."
Just wanted to add a confirmation to your post. -----
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martinand
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Posted - 2007.01.23 12:26:00 -
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Edited by: martinand on 23/01/2007 12:28:45 Edited by: martinand on 23/01/2007 12:23:43 Formula in PDF says:
Daily Standing Change = (Average Standings û Current Standings) / 4
The character i created a corp with has 9.95 faction standing.. and is alone in corp.. trying to put up a POS right away.. i got the message Max mentioned above with a 0.0 faction standing.
so for first downtime that would mean (9.95-0.00) / 4 = 2,4875 for first downtime?
however.. after the first downtime.. the standing was 4.35.. is the formula wrong.. or am i just using it wrong?
EDIT: (9.95-0.00) / 4 = 2.4875 (9.95-2.4875) / 4 = 1,865625
2.4875+1,865625 = 4,353125
so.. the first day without downtime.. counts too i guess
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Koto Rae
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.23 20:33:00 -
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Hmm, I thought that if you had a T2 item that you could increase the number of items produced per day if you did manufactured them in a POS.
I was thinking of setting one up for T2 production and BPO research.
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Jane Laitanen
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.24 00:39:00 -
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Edited by: Jane Laitanen on 24/01/2007 00:37:22
Originally by: Koto Rae Hmm, I thought that if you had a T2 item that you could increase the number of items produced per day if you did manufactured them in a POS.
I was thinking of setting one up for T2 production and BPO research.
Rapid Equipment Assembly Array
Opposite is:
Efficient Equipment Assembly Array
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Miss Mai
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Posted - 2007.02.03 00:31:00 -
[48]
Just to clarify about the corp standing freeze bug: eventhough the corp standings isn't right on the main character with the standings, the POS can still go up? |

Vol Jbolaz
Prydwen Investments
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Posted - 2007.02.03 03:19:00 -
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When it comes to standings increase, does it spend things up if the toon with the faction standings is the CEO?
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.02.03 04:56:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Vol Jbolaz When it comes to standings increase, does it spend things up if the toon with the faction standings is the CEO?
I did it once as CEO and once as a member with my alt as CEO (alt with no standings) and the speed was the same.
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Veidiven
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Posted - 2007.02.03 06:24:00 -
[51]
found this in another thread...
I just tried to set up reactors in a .7 system.. Needs .3 or lower. im ****ed You cant read about this ANYWHERE!!!
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Hockston Axe
Amarr HocksCorp
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Posted - 2007.02.07 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Contralto #27 in the FAQ, I can confirm that if you start a new corp, it is not born with your standings. Furthermore it will just sit there indefinitely until you do a mission for NPC standings or a storyline for Faction standings.
For confirmation check out the corp im in at the moment. I have done no missions since forming it.
Furthermore you appear to only get standings with corps that you ran a mission for in your new corp. I just made my corp and it only has standings with the 3 corps + Concord and the four agents that I did some missions for since creating the corp. The other 31 corps that I have standings with didnÆt show up. I donÆt mind that the other 85 agents I have standings with didnÆt show up. It seems that it is simply a matter of doing a mission for the agent because one of the agents my corp has standings to is the storyline agent, which I have standings with from Angel Strike missions, but the mission I did while in the corp was a courier (no standings with agent) type mission.
Just one storyline looks like it does the trick with faction standing though (derived mods make that one mission kick-start all faction standing towards your corp). I ran a storyline the same day I made the corp, and havenÆt done any missions since then and all the faction standings are updating nicely.
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PINEAPPLE WINE
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Posted - 2007.02.12 03:53:00 -
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Two things from my own experience:
1. I cannot drop a reactor in .5 2. I used an alt to attack my corp's POS (alt is not in corp) and although the POS popped me, I never saw any intervention from Concord - furthermore I thought it has been written in other threads before this one on the same subjuct suggesting that Concrod does not protect high sec POS.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.02.13 06:47:00 -
[54]
Originally by: PINEAPPLE WINE Two things from my own experience:
1. I cannot drop a reactor in .5 2. I used an alt to attack my corp's POS (alt is not in corp) and although the POS popped me, I never saw any intervention from Concord - furthermore I thought it has been written in other threads before this one on the same subjuct suggesting that Concrod does not protect high sec POS.
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Cagimus Reximus
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Posted - 2007.02.14 16:12:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Mazhius and what happens to the POS if I close corp? does it stay on?
I too would like to know if a POS would stay online when the corp that originally installed it is desolved. Would it move with the original owner from the old corp (now defunct) to his/her new corp?
Thanks! Cagimus
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.02.14 21:22:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Cagimus Reximus
Originally by: Mazhius and what happens to the POS if I close corp? does it stay on?
I too would like to know if a POS would stay online when the corp that originally installed it is desolved. Would it move with the original owner from the old corp (now defunct) to his/her new corp?
Thanks! Cagimus
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Alha Qmar
Caldari Xenon Logistics
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Posted - 2007.02.18 13:34:00 -
[57]
Great guide, still got 1 question unasnwered. What happens when a random neutral warps to your high secure pos. Will the modules shoot him? Or leave him alone?
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.02.19 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Alha Qmar Great guide, still got 1 question unasnwered. What happens when a random neutral warps to your high secure pos. Will the modules shoot him? Or leave him alone?
In high sec, the POS can only be set to shoot if attacked or to shoot war targets. If a neutral warps in, nothing will happen to him. |

Dravin Dread
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Posted - 2007.02.19 11:41:00 -
[59]
In your faq you had an unknown - About reactors. Reactors can only be anchored in 0.3 and below.
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shuckstar
Gallente Order of New Blood
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Posted - 2007.02.19 11:46:00 -
[60]
Edited by: shuckstar on 19/02/2007 11:49:45
Originally by: Shameless Avenger
Originally by: Alha Qmar Great guide, still got 1 question unasnwered. What happens when a random neutral warps to your high secure pos. Will the modules shoot him? Or leave him alone?
In high sec, the POS can only be set to shoot if attacked or to shoot war targets. If a neutral warps in, nothing will happen to him.
Can confirm that, warped to someone else's pos in a 0.6 and the guns didnt shoot me, but i was unwilling to lock it and see if that caused the pos to shoot me as was in a expensive ship. So does any1 know if locking a pos is a form of agroe?
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.02.19 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: shuckstar Edited by: shuckstar on 19/02/2007 11:50:19 Edited by: shuckstar on 19/02/2007 11:49:45
Originally by: Shameless Avenger
Originally by: Alha Qmar Great guide, still got 1 question unasnwered. What happens when a random neutral warps to your high secure pos. Will the modules shoot him? Or leave him alone?
In high sec, the POS can only be set to shoot if attacked or to shoot war targets. If a neutral warps in, nothing will happen to him.
Can confirm that, warped to someone else's pos in a 0.6 and the guns didnt shoot me, but i was unwilling to lock it and see if that caused the pos to shoot me as was in a expensive ship. So does any1 know if locking a pos is a form of agroe?
ATM, locking alone, nope. Shooting of course, yes. But with changes comming in and out, test in an alt with a rockie ship before risking anything expensive. |

Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.02.19 13:54:00 -
[62]
To all players who have tested and contributed info:
Thanks, I will include it on the next update. Keep them comming. Thanks thanks thanks. |

Shino Tu
Caldari Kaaii-Net Research Labs
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Posted - 2007.02.19 23:11:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Shino Tu on 19/02/2007 23:12:10 Edited by: Shino Tu on 19/02/2007 23:08:28 A couple of notes for you...
An LSAA- Cannot "now" be anchored in greater than 04. Pre-kali you could, so there are some pos's in empire that have this capability. They are used for cap ship production, the dreads and carriers. Freighters can also be built in them but can also be built in stations, so why would you.
Towers- remain usable even if your standings drop below the required level for your pos system sec. I can confirm this as I have dropped to neg 1 for pod killing a greifer that killed me with a BPO on board.
T2 research- You need to have the required research data bases, reports, consumer electronics and data sheets in the lab division that your print is loacated in, in the lab division that the print is loacted in, in the npc station. Don't research anything without the remote research skill trained.
Copys- That you make from your bpos get delivered into the lab at the pos, not the npc hanger your print is in.
Shino Tu CEO
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.03.11 21:06:00 -
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IÆve been raising the standing on a few corps now and have noticed some things about how the corp standings rise.
The most important thing is that faction standings at the corp level are still limited by the derived mods cap. The interesting thing about this is that the derived mod cap doesnÆt act as your new high standing number. Instead the standings increase along the same curve as your base standing to that faction, but stop at the last increase before hitting the derived mod ceiling.
For example say I have 9 to Amarr and 7.35 to Caldari. If I make a corp and only do 1 Amarr storyline, the corp standing will increase Amarr up to 9, Caldari will use 7.35 to determine the daily standing change but since 7 is the highest standing that Amarr derived mods will take Caldari standing, the corp standings freeze at the last DT before the standing equals or exceeds 7. (i.e. Caldari standing would increase as such: 0, 1.83, 3.21 (every corp IÆve done has jumped straight to this 2nd day number after the first DT), 4.24, 5.02, 5.60, 6.04, 6.36, 6.61, 6.79, 6.93, 7.03)
Now once it reaches 6.93 it just stops. It doesnÆt slowly inch up to 7, using that for the calculations, it just stops.
So if youÆre shooting for multiple faction POS level standings you may need to do a storyline for each faction, depending on the specific derived mods caps and what your needed standing is.
The other thing IÆve noticed is that sometimes corp/agent standings from my roster are added to the new corp, even though I didnÆt do anything to activate them. Some I did do a mission that day before joining the corp, some I simply accepted and declined a mission, and some came outta nowhere. (But if I want the standing for the corp and donÆt do anything that one never shows up of course.)
Also once the corp standings are active, it doesnÆt seem that members need to do anything to add their standing to the calcs. When I left my corp in the capable hands of a new alt, my corp picked up their standing to the tutorial +10 agent. IÆve also seen that happen with other corps IÆve done. If the corp has standing to a corp that I also have, and I join it raises those corps even if I didnÆt activate them. But they donÆt pick up all my corps/agents. I really have no idea whatÆs going on with that part, as there is very little rhyme or reason to it.
I would be interested if anyone knows a little more about how memberÆs average standing is calculated and implemented. I assume that itÆs just a flat average. The corp standing could be calculated though either by using the average for the calcs, or acting like derived mods, and using the highest standing for the calcs, but cutting it off at the average like the derived mod ceiling (thatÆs what IÆm leaning towards).
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Igor Ramanov
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:32:00 -
[65]
I don't know if it already has been answered (my break is over, no time to read the rest), and I can confirm, reactors can NOT be anchored in Hi-sec. I learned the expensive and time consuming way :(
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Braaage
Laborius Chapter
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:15:00 -
[66]
EW modules require Anchoring L3
Standings - looking at your own standings through the corp tab will often show an incorrect amount - use an out of corp alt to look at your standings it will show the correct value.
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Liliane Woodhead
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Posted - 2007.03.14 15:50:00 -
[67]
aggro Testing of 0.5 sec POS:
out of Corp Alt in a Rookie ship locking the POS -> nothing. Firing a round at the POS -> it starts webbers, scramblers, disruptors and ECM.... missiles and turrets are going pew pew. -> Concord shows up and want me to hand out my driver licence 
Works all well.
Thanks again for the great guide you shameless Avenger, yours Woodhead ;)
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Buxaroo
Constructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.03.15 14:33:00 -
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Well I am reviving my old corp and all my friends are joining it. We were all going to do Caldari Navy missions (for insance I have 2.23 standing with Caldari State while one other corp mate has 3.0) and try to bring it up to 5.0 or higher so we can plant a lab POS in .5 system or higher.
But after reading the guys post above it doesn't seem to quite work like that. I was thinking of having this one guy who charges 200 mil to start a new corp and he will get faction standings up to where we want and then we join.
But me and my guys wanted to all just grind Caldari Navy missions (we are all lvl 4 agents) until we got our Caldari State faction up. Anyone have any idea how long it would take for us to be able to plant a POS in a .5 system? Taking some of our already decent faction standings into account? Would it be better to just have those with higher Caldari State standings join first and do the missions or will it matter if I had all my guys join corp?
Help, I am totaly lost and at work so I don't have time for the math or anything lol.
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Liliane Woodhead
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Posted - 2007.03.16 08:09:00 -
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Edited by: Liliane Woodhead on 16/03/2007 08:10:23
Originally by: Buxaroo Well I am reviving my old corp and all my friends are joining it. We were all going to do Caldari Navy missions (for insance I have 2.23 standing with Caldari State while one other corp mate has 3.0) and try to bring it up to 5.0 or higher so we can plant a lab POS in .5 system or higher.
But after reading the guys post above it doesn't seem to quite work like that. I was thinking of having this one guy who charges 200 mil to start a new corp and he will get faction standings up to where we want and then we join.
But me and my guys wanted to all just grind Caldari Navy missions (we are all lvl 4 agents) until we got our Caldari State faction up. Anyone have any idea how long it would take for us to be able to plant a POS in a .5 system? Taking some of our already decent faction standings into account? Would it be better to just have those with higher Caldari State standings join first and do the missions or will it matter if I had all my guys join corp?
Help, I am totaly lost and at work so I don't have time for the math or anything lol.
Maybe you can make a temporary corp for your mission running time ( to play together). after one player has a real standing (before skills) of 5.0 and above you can found your permanent corp with this character. Then wait arround 5 days that the corp standing is slowly coming to the 5.0 needed for a POS in 0.5 sec System. Then you can anchor your POS. Other players with faction standings of 5.0 and above can join, sure. When the setup is ready other players can join ...
Or: Join all the Corp and go mission grinding. If the best players hit the standing above 5 then other with lower standings should leave. You have to wait for the Corp standing to rise like above, but it can go faster. That depends on all players actually in your corp. After POS setup .. the other players who left can join again.
Nice fueling, Woodhead :)
Edit: Better have more than 5.0 faction standing with your Character. The daily Corporation-Standing increase is better.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Revelation Space
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:29:00 -
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A very nice PDF... I wish I had read it earlier!
I don't know if this helps, but I can safely say that you can only anchor Reactors (both types) in 0.4 sec and lower.
/me waddles off with a thinner wallet carrying two Reactor arrays
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Revelation Space
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:32:00 -
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Oh and to add to your PDF, you can anchor coupling arrays in 0.5 space. Your Signature exceeds max allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels. Mail us if you have any questions -Eldo |

PaPaDesAster
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Posted - 2007.03.18 12:25:00 -
[72]
If you make a new corp, the faction standings are not taken over instantly but (slowly) raise. Testing my patience right now with an alt...
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.03.18 12:36:00 -
[73]
Thanks for the replies guys, I'm waiting till after the Tuesday patch before making an update to include any stealth changes that may came in.
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.03.18 18:55:00 -
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IÆve tested and confirmed that deleting the MachoNet folder in the Cache clears the standings freeze bug. I donÆt think IÆve seen anybody say that theyÆve tested that out for sure. It only updates it for that day of course, you have to delete the folder the next DT to get it to update again. I think itÆs easier to just look at it with an alt.
Originally by: Patchnotes Corporate standing takes low standing members into account.
This is the thing that IÆm wondering about, it doesnÆt say æno standing membersÆ, so itÆs possible that extremely low standing members werenÆt being counted as well. Patchday will tell.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.03.18 20:14:00 -
[75]
Hockston,
That MachoNet folder discovery is indeed new. I haven't seen anything about before. I guess we can call it the Hockston's MachoNet workaround. Good job!
About the patch notes, yeah, I saw that too and I was wondering the same thing. By low standing CCP means people with zero standing? Guess we gonna have to wait until after the patch to find out.
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Redsmith
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Posted - 2007.03.24 21:33:00 -
[76]
Wonderfull FAQ, thanks a ton. It does appear that the formula for corp standing adjustments may have changed(with last patch maybe). Formed corp last night before DT, personal standing with Minmatar was(still is) 5.15, I am only person in corp, so using your formula, corp standing should have been (5.15-0)/2 = 1.2875. Actual corp standing, after one DT is 2.25, which is what I had figured as standing after second DT. Has anyone else noticed a change in the wya corp standing is figured/adjusted recently?
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Sharwyn Khanid
Aeon Cores Corporation
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Posted - 2007.03.25 09:40:00 -
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Hello,
Nice work and good guide for the POS High Sec.
However, I would like to reconsider a point, not very explicit for me...
Quote: 11)How do I research my BPOs at the POS remotely? You need to train ôScientific Networkingö. It allows YOU to be away from the BPO and the Mobile Lab. ● The BPOs must be placed at Corp hangar in NPC station in the same system at the POS. You canÆt remote research from your personal hangar, needs to be corp hangar ● Your BPO canÆt be on a different system. It needs to be in the same system as the POS. Only YOU can be systems away from the lab, not the BPO.
So, if you put the POS in a system without any npc station, it's impossible to launch a research ? (exemple, the BPO is at 1 jump at the POS in the corp hangar)
Secondly, if the BPO is in POS's corporate hangar, is it possible ?
In fact, I intended to install a pos this week, in a system deprived of station, therefore I will wish to have a little explanations.
Thanks a lot.
Sharwyn.
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Red Crown
Kudzu Collective
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Posted - 2007.03.25 13:49:00 -
[78]
Question - Assume your POS is set to NBSI. A newbie-corp member wanders by the moon and is destroyed by your vast array of XL artillerytorpedocruisecannons. Will CONCORD respond with an attack on the POS?
(Please say yes. I've been dying for a last-stand against concord.) "EVE is the worst MMORPG. Except for all the other ones."
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Fenella
Caldari Dangermouse Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.26 14:29:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Red Crown Question - Assume your POS is set to NBSI. A newbie-corp member wanders by the moon and is destroyed by your vast array of XL artillerytorpedocruisecannons.
Will CONCORD respond with an attack on the POS? (Please say yes. I've been dying for a last-stand against concord.)
You can only sec a high sec POS to shoot war targets and/or on aggression.
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bosCage
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Posted - 2007.03.26 23:19:00 -
[80]
Greetings. Great guide.
I am having difficulty allowing my alliance members to successfully research in my corps Hi Sec POS. The alliance members have an office in the same system as the POS, but they receive an error msg (which I don't have readily available). Has anyone else been able to successfully allow alliance members to use the lab's in a hi sec pos, and if so, how did you set up/permissions and roles assigned, etc..
Thanks so much, -bC
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Robacz
Essence Trade Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.03.28 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Robacz on 28/03/2007 13:12:39 I tried it with a CEO of allied corporation and research works with T1 BPOs (they must be in NPC station with allied corp office, in allied corp hangar).
However I think it isnt possible to do any research jobs where items besides BPO are needed - Tech2 ME/PE research and Invention. Even though POS has set everything to "Alliance", no one besides members of owning corp can access labs. I also tried to anchor structure withing alliance POS with another corp and it also doesnt work (again anchoring, off/onlining rights set to "Alliance").
I think the alliance POS sharing is either very buggy, or not fully implemented. However basic researching should work. Just make sure you configured your POS to allow jobs on Mobile labs for "Alliance" (not "Role" or "Corp"). It is in Management menu of POS tower.
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Phoenix Grinder
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Posted - 2007.04.03 12:53:00 -
[82]
This is all gold
Q: Ok so for standings someone leaves corp/alliance, gets their standings, sets up the POS etc. if that corp now joins the parent alliance can anyone else from the other corps now manage the POS, fill it, research in it, all those roles?
Thanks!!
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Frigid
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Posted - 2007.04.30 20:08:00 -
[83]
Alliance members can fuel the tower but access to labs for take is broken (according to DEV response to petition). This means any research requiring materials cannot be done by anyone except for the owning corporation. T1 works fine. There also appears to be a bug with alliance copying. It will allow you to put the job in, but when delivered the copies are nowhere to be found. Most likely related to the broken take access.
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William Alex
Viscosity Dark Synergy
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Posted - 2007.06.02 16:11:00 -
[84]
/bump
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
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Roland John
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Posted - 2007.06.03 05:45:00 -
[85]
Question... My corp has been steadily raising standings now for the past 2 months, combined corp standings are @ 5.38 but that is under show Composisiton. If you do a show info on our corp it show 4.40, and has been that way since 05.18.2007, and hasn't updated. Our Corp goal is 6.35 for where we want to put the POS up but how come CCP hasn't upadated our Corp standings since mid May i thought this stuff was updated every 10 days max? Can anyone help with a suggestion, before i petition the issue?
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.06.03 05:56:00 -
[86]
Besides keep doing storylines and cosmos missions, if it doesn't work, petition.
Something else that do help is when one member is dragging down the rest of the corp standings. But I have to warn, I'm not sure if it's an exploit. You get the member to a missioning hub and he will start taking missions from different agents. Then different members of the corp meet with him on the starting points and go ahead to do the missions for him. The more people doing this, the faster standings will rise for that member, therefore for the whole corp. |

Aykido
Gallente Lobster of Babel
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Posted - 2007.06.03 11:55:00 -
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FAQ 3: Anchoring 2 and 3 are required for deploying defensive and offensive mods.
FAQ 4: Although standings can display incorrectly when viewed from inside the corp, the correct standings of your corp are always displayed to outside the corp characters that info your corp and look at the standings/liked by tab.
FAQ 5-7: When a new member joins an existing corp to raise its standing, he has to complete one storyline mission for his standings to affect corp standings.
FAQ 15-16: If you have access to ice field close by you can cut the costs in half by ice harvesting. Perfect refine/ice processing is a must and a sizeable gang or this is going to take a long time.
FAQ 18: You can "rent" to alliance corps, but any job they do that has input materials must be put by you into the input hangar at the POS. and any job with output materials will get stuck and a GM must be petitioned to retrieve copies, invented BPCs, manufactured items made by members of other corps within the alliance.
FAQ 18: Many research corps that do research for others pay a collateral on BPOs they research. Usually not more than 80% of the unresearched value of the BPO, to ensure that the client will buy it back.
FAQ 19: Minmatar and Amarr Towers can have 2-5-10 mobile labs per tower depending on the size. Gallente and Caldari towers can have 3-6-12 mobile labs because of CPU bonus. It is hardly feasibly to train advanced lab ops 5 for the 11th slot per character. In the same time you can create 2 research alts and train them up to 10 slots each. So a feasible max per account is 30 slots.
FAQ 22: If you have a freighter, all problems with hauling fuel even long distance are solved. You can bring 2-4 months worth of ice products per trip depending on your tower size.
FAQ 24: Atm do n ot set your guns to attack anyone, not even war targets. If your POS starts shooting at war targets the can retaliate and CONCORD wont intervene!!! So until there is a "fix" no defence is better than some defence.
FAQ 25: Rapid Assembly Array is very useful in high sec. Especially if you are inventing. If your BPOs have perfect ME there is no additional waste and there is a 35% reduction in building times! It can build T2 components. The 20% extra waste really hurts on invented BPCs however. Advanced Medium and Small Ship arrays would be useful for building ships if they had more than one slot. As is, extra 10% material cost is not worth 25% faster building times.
FAQ 27: If your standings are just above 5, running storylines (for example the COSMOS missions) will hasten deployment by days. if you already have standings of 8 or more each storyline (even level 4) will have minimal effect.
FAQ 28: Revelations 2 will bring major changes to how POSes work. New arrays like jump arrays and controlable guns outside the shield.
Hope this helps Aykido.
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Aykido
Gallente Lobster of Babel
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Posted - 2007.06.03 12:22:00 -
[88]
The R&D corporations seem most willing to hand out starbase charters as LP offers. At least that has been my experience.
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Flex Carter
Caldari Caldari Independant Mining Association
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Posted - 2007.06.05 11:20:00 -
[89]
If my Corp is not researching or coping BPOÆs at our CT, can we offline it and the other structures and safely leave it on-site to save fuel for our next job?
Or do we have to unanchored all POS and dock them.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.06.05 23:10:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Flex Carter If my Corp is not researching or coping BPOÆs at our CT, can we offline it and the other structures and safely leave it on-site to save fuel for our next job?
Or do we have to unanchored all POS and dock them.
You can offline an unused lab to save fuel, yes. I do it all the time with labs, and other modules. |
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Flex Carter
Caldari Caldari Independant Mining Association
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Posted - 2007.06.06 03:43:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Shameless Avenger
Originally by: Flex Carter If my Corp is not researching or coping BPOÆs at our CT, can we offline it and the other structures and safely leave it on-site to save fuel for our next job?
Or do we have to unanchored all POS and dock them.
You can offline an unused lab to save fuel, yes. I do it all the time with labs, and other modules.
What about the Control Tower itself? Even though my caretaker only have access rights, can someone fly up and unanchored it and the other POS if the tower is offline with the shields down?
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.06.06 04:02:00 -
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Last time I checked, the tower could be offlined and onlined later, regardless of standings. As long as you don't unanchor the tower you should be allright.
However, there has been some discussion on the forums about it, some people say it's an exploit. I won't comment on it to avoid opening the can of worms. But you could try asking a GM to get a definitive answer. There's usually one on the help channel /me thinks. |

William Alex
Viscosity Dark Synergy
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Posted - 2007.06.06 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Flex Carter
Originally by: Shameless Avenger You can offline an unused lab to save fuel, yes. I do it all the time with labs, and other modules.
What about the Control Tower itself? Even though my caretaker only have access rights, can someone fly up and unanchored it and the other POS if the tower is offline with the shields down?
No only people with the roles in your corp can unanchor your components.
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
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Level5
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Posted - 2007.06.06 21:40:00 -
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Nice Guide Shameless...
Originally by: Shameless Avenger Research slots in empire High-Sec NPC station have long wait queues, many weeks in some cases. And once you get the slot, you can only use it for 30 days, then you have to queue your job again. BPO Research in POS labs is done faster.
Actually you can start jobs that take longer than 30days at mobile labs, I researched a Chimera BPO for 35d at a mobile lab.
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Michael Caldar
DangerZone Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.08 16:13:00 -
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Not in my experience - 30 days was the limit, same as in any other lab.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.06.08 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Caldar Not in my experience - 30 days was the limit, same as in any other lab.
30 days or 1 run is the actual limits. You just haven't worked with a bpo that long in researching. (Not many are btw)
The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it.
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insulubria
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Posted - 2007.06.09 08:30:00 -
[97]
"Shame this isnt working right now. I want to put up a POS in a 0.5, my corp has 3 members and compositions are 7.8, 7,74 and 5.14. The last 5 DTs have shown zero increase and its really beginning to **** me off."
view your standings via the rented office's at a station its the only way it works, EI) viewing your standings from your character->corp does not work the vast majority of the time.
However viewing your corp standing via the "docked at head office -> offices tab -> corp -> standings does at least for me.
When I went from 0 to 6 standing with isokone R&D corp i could only see a change in standing from the later mentioned, and not via character -> corp -> standings
bugged tbh
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.06.09 16:10:00 -
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The latest trick I read about was clearing the cache, or check the standings with another character, not in the corp. |

Suncats Shadow
Caldari Archon Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.15 19:40:00 -
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Great guide with lots of good information. Well done.
Assumptions:
- I have created a new corp and have just a CEO with 0 standings (except to starting race), ethnic relations lvl 1 and corp management lvl 1
- I want to use one of the services list here to bring the corp standings up to the required lvl
Just had a couple questions which I did not see covered.
- Once the person joins the corp, completes standings and then leaves, will the standing remain if no one else joins and no other missions are run by the CEO? IE: Will the corp be able to anchor towers forever afterwards?
- Once a tower has been anchored is there anyway to transfer ownership of the tower to another corp? Besides un-anchoring it and anchoring it again? And if you have to un-anchor the tower, how would the other corp re-anchor it?
- If I create a lab alt, have them join corp and anchor a tower. Then after 24hrs, un-anchor the tower and join another corp; will the standing remain high enough to allow the alt to re-anchor the tower for the new corp?
- From what I have read, the 'renting' of lab space does not actually work. Therefore, other than giving people access through the shield; how do you setup the access for a specific hanger/lab module so only they can use that one?
- Per question above, this would mean that BPO's would need to be brought to the lab and not stored in NPC station. Since there would be no corp hanger to do that. Therefore, is there any way for the lab user to do remote BPO research from an NPC station in the same system?
Thanks
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Rayana Lee
Gallente Godspeed Angels
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Posted - 2007.08.13 11:31:00 -
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Thanks for that guide. But I still have a few questions :) How profitable can POS with one Lab can be? What are typical fee for using the lab? I'm planning to move my corp toward POS right now, and that's the question I have no clue about. My main character is potentially very good at industry and science skills (mem28, int24), and it so happens that my corpmates also have high int & mem, but we never made serious ISK from that. And does standing requirements take in account my Social skills?
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Krav
Egad Inc. Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.14 00:19:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Krav on 14/08/2007 00:19:22
Originally by: Rayana Lee And does standing requirements take in account my Social skills?
Nope (standings skills don't apply, sorry).
Krav =====
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clockedu
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Posted - 2007.09.22 16:38:00 -
[102]
great reference material! love it thank you
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Ichigo Miruku
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:42:00 -
[103]
The pdf says that POS are not attackable in high sec (protected by concord) Does this hold true still ?
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Braaage
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:08:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Braaage on 23/09/2007 11:08:36
Originally by: Ichigo Miruku The pdf says that POS are not attackable in high sec (protected by concord) Does this hold true still ?
Since this thread was partly necro'd the guide albeit still has a lot of good info, it's a little outdated (not sure Shameless Avenger is updating it anymore).
POSs are attackable and concord will not get involved if a war is declared. -- eve-guides.com POS, Outpost and Sovereignty info
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mightymadmat
Amarr Equity Corp Phobos Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.11 21:12:00 -
[105]
Just a little update to the list of stuff that be used in empire space.
Ammo Assembly Plant can be anchored and used in empire space. Saying that I cant see why you can assemble the other assembly plants in empire.
Mighty Mad Mat
Quote : 0.0 space is ideal for strip mining - think of it in both ways.
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BNAF
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Posted - 2007.12.10 23:23:00 -
[106]
Fantastic guide mate, if only i had read it a few days ago :p
keep up the good work, will donate some ISK in game
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Mining Maxx
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.11 09:03:00 -
[107]
hi,
nice faq. anyway, i just installed my first highsec pos, onlined 2 advanced labs and all i get now is:
Quote: Cannot establish contact with the Science & Industry facility. If it is in a different system you might have to travel closer.
for anything i try (invention, me research, copying).
any ideas whats going wrong?
needless to say that its in the same system, all online and my scientific networking is at lvl 4.
PS. i also noticed when trying to run an invention job i can pick a base item. those are currently located in my npc station hangar. do they need to be placed at the pos in a corporate array by any chance or is it just completely bugged for me (with regard to the above error i get anyway)?
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Newbear
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Posted - 2007.12.11 10:54:00 -
[108]
Ack, lots of info out of date in op guide. The daily increase calcs are interesting though. Not sure its correct anymore since I can get 5.0+ in 2 days... hmm.
To previous post: Are your BPO's in your NPC hanger or your corp's hanger? It needs to be inside the corp hanger. Corp hanger has 7 divisions, comes with office rental in the npc station. Otherwise you have to leave the bpo's inside of the lab you want to use to research. Not as safe even though the probability of loss in hi-sec is small.
Click here for my High Security POS Service
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Mining Maxx
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.11 12:37:00 -
[109]
hi,
thanks, that solved 50% of my issues then ;) but it still leaves the fact that i cant add a base item to an invention job im trying to set up now. i tried it in corp hangar and it doesnt show up... i even treid setting up a corp hangar array and placed it in there and still nothing.
the advanced lab shows 25000m¦ capacity, cruisers are 10000m¦ repacked and battleships even 50000m¦ so at least the latter ones wouldnt fit in a lab cargo by any chance. so how's that work, or is pos invention really limited that much regarding base items?
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Halafian
Amarr Friendship Society
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Posted - 2007.12.11 19:56:00 -
[110]
Probably I just missed this, but what is the highest level security system you can build a POS in? I only see references to 0.5 - 0.7. Can you build in 0.8 or 0.9 systems if you have the corp/faction standing?
What are the kinds of systems people look for? Are most moons occupied, or is it generally no big deal to find a place to plant a POS?
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demonfurbie
Minmatar Covert-Nexus
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Posted - 2007.12.11 22:14:00 -
[111]
ive found that if you make a corp and your the only member and get a story line and run it your standings still have no change i have 5.24 standings in a corp by myself and i dont have any standings
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Umbi13
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Posted - 2007.12.12 05:57:00 -
[112]
Originally by: demonfurbie ive found that if you make a corp and your the only member and get a story line and run it your standings still have no change i have 5.24 standings in a corp by myself and i dont have any standings
Check the standings using a character not in the corp, or click on faction and select compositions -- the top item is current corp standings.
Its stupid but otherwise it shows you the wrong numbers -- old numbers
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Umbi13
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Posted - 2007.12.12 07:05:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Mining Maxx hi,
nice faq. anyway, i just installed my first highsec pos, onlined 2 advanced labs and all i get now is:
Quote: Cannot establish contact with the Science & Industry facility. If it is in a different system you might have to travel closer.
for anything i try (invention, me research, copying).
any ideas whats going wrong?
needless to say that its in the same system, all online and my scientific networking is at lvl 4.
PS. i also noticed when trying to run an invention job i can pick a base item. those are currently located in my npc station hangar. do they need to be placed at the pos in a corporate array by any chance or is it just completely bugged for me (with regard to the above error i get anyway)?
Try to train scientific networking
You also need to have the factory management role to use the corp line, also you must put your bpo in a corp hanger and start the job from there to use your pos labs.
Otherwise fly to your labs and do it right AT the lab.
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Seeker7
Caldari Eve University
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Posted - 2007.12.23 19:14:00 -
[114]
A few notes. Concord will not protect the POS if you're at war and it's attacked by that Corp. Could you add heading to the columns in the High-Sec Module Anchoring Table? Large Ship Assembly Arrays can't be anchored in high sec anymore.
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Braaage
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.23 19:42:00 -
[115]
I wish people would stop bumping this, the guide is out of date and he/she no longer is interested in updating it or no longer plays.
Those of us that frequent this forum know stuff is outdated in that guide.
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