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vipeer Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:48:00 - [241] Nezzy is here only to stirr ** up. Don't explain anything anymore to him because he is too much covered in ** he's stirring and he can't hear you. From the first post i saw by Nezie and untill this day it has always been about how ASCN and the member corps suck etc. Sad boy bent on destruction via forum war. Get a life NezBoy. If that is out of reach find a tall building... Sad thing is you yourself are unable to build something bigger than a sandwich so you spend your life smearing people better than you. Which is it?: Attention span of a Goldfish? Conflictive personality? Disruptive personality? Somekind of untreatable mental disorder? Treatable mental disorder but you forgot to take Lithium? General hatred toward any alliance that starts with a letter A? General hatred? Or you just hate the fact that ASCN flourished where you failed miserably? BoB member? Chaining BoBo in south Feyth:
File Gallente eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:52:00 - [242] Originally by: Nez Perces Oh he didnt the need the rights?.... so why did he ask for them?.... furthermore why did he walk away with the impression that he was untrustworthy?.... after giving his all for the cause It doesn't make any sense. Is anybody in CLS gonna take reponsablity for that?... or is it gonna be a case of.. Corp policy mate.. nothing we could do.. he is an emo. I mean WTF. Well umm. Yeah. He didn't need the rights. He asked for them because he WANTED them to research a BPO so he could make some money. He wanted the rights for a personal POS. He did not need them because he was not invovled in deploying CLS POS's etc. I am certain you understand the difference between needing POS rights because you are doing somethingfor the corp vs wanting them so you can achieve personal goals. Just because the person in question happened to be a somewhat high profile member does not change the fact that he did not need the rights. If CLS were to hand out POS rights to everyone who wanted to research BPOs they might as well offline their POSes themselves. Keep in mind, I am not in CLS and I do not speak for them. I am merly trying to explain to you something that really should be obvious. As to why GK took it personally, I do not know. I am not in CLS nor do I know the full events. But I would be quite disturbed if CLS were to start handing out POS rights just so someone can plop down a small POS and do some research - no matter how well know, respected, or dedicated they are.
MuthaTrucka Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:53:00 - [243] Originally by: vipeer Nezzy is here only to stirr ** up. Don't explain anything anymore to him because he is too much covered in ** he's stirring and he can't hear you. I enjoy the stimulating conversation on Policy. My Personal Feelings have nothing to do with my conversing in the forums, nor does Respect come into play, merely common decency. Even if there is really no Debate whatsoever. It amuses me the lengths someone will go to try and get a emotional reaction from me. --------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all.
Noveron Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:56:00 - [244] Originally by: MuthaTrucka Originally by: vipeer Nezzy is here only to stirr ** up. Don't explain anything anymore to him because he is too much covered in ** he's stirring and he can't hear you. I enjoy the stimulating conversation on Policy. My Personal Feelings have nothing to do with my conversing in the forums, nor does Respect come into play, merely common decency. Even if there is really no Debate whatsoever. It amuses me the lengths someone will go to try and get a emotional reaction from me. Maybe Nez Perces wants to offer him the roles to put up a POS in empire under his corp flag, as he insists so much.
Al Haquis Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:57:00 - [245] Originally by: vipeer Nezzy is here only to stirr ** up. Don't explain anything anymore to him because he is too much covered in ** he's stirring and he can't hear you. From the first post i saw by Nezie and untill this day it has always been about how ASCN and the member corps suck etc. Sad boy bent on destruction via forum war. Get a life NezBoy. If that is out of reach find a tall building... Sad thing is you yourself are unable to build something bigger than a sandwich so you spend your life smearing people better than you. Which is it?: Attention span of a Goldfish? Conflictive personality? Disruptive personality? Somekind of untreatable mental disorder? Treatable mental disorder but you forgot to take Lithium? General hatred toward any alliance that starts with a letter A? General hatred? Or you just hate the fact that ASCN flourished where you failed miserably? BoB member? Mate Step away from the keyboard. Really take a look at your post and dont post again. And there are worse Trolls lurking in the dark , and you just summoned them. With love from Al Haquis
MuthaTrucka Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:59:00 - [246] I love trolls, with their tiny little feet and cool up swept neon hair. --------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all.
Drakma Gekidoku	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:03:00 - [247] Originally by: MuthaTrucka I love trolls, with their tiny little feet and cool up swept neon hair. Careful, you're showing emotion. Gekidoku is recruiting. Do you have what it takes?
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:05:00 - [248] Edited by: Nez Perces on 03/01/2007 17:07:43 Originally by: MuthaTrucka Ok I thought I had already taken responsibility. So here it is just for Nez, I accept full responsibility for Gung leaving because I did not give him POS rights. I made a decision based on policy he chose to heed the words of people on chat instead of asking the person who made the decision when he got on. It's simply a case of he said, she said without involving the person who made the decision. K thankyou for your kind response.... things are becoming clearer now. So.. GK asks for POS rights.. you as his superior decide, within corporate guidlines, that he doesn't need them. Fine. GK appears to talk to some people in corp chat.. and they tell him mistakenly that he could be a spy? or something weird like that? GK gets upset and leaves the corp before your "last stand". Now this begs the question.. why didnt somebody explain to him the facts of the matter? and get him to reconsider. Unless GK has simply gone overboard and is no longer thinking clearly. All the attention for ASCN should be on your heroic last stand, instead the man who announced it has walked off in disgrace/disappointment. Even the most zealous ASCN die hard, must agree that something is amiss here. Either GK has lost it a bit.. or this is not the whole story. And if you don't understand why this is important.. you are truly beyond help.
Arenis Xemdal Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:07:00 - [249] Gekidoku oddly resembles Reikoku. Stockholm?
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:09:00 - [250] Blame CCP. Blame the fact that you require POS's to hold systems. Blame the fact that the role is an ALL or NOTHING role. There is no "POS for Self" Role. The Role is Either POS YES or POS NO. Given that certain ppl have been offlining POSs for hostiles then the role is restricted. Now add to this fact that THIS problem and MANY others have been laid at CCP's Feet for a good YEAR PLUS! Corp tools, More roles, more subdivision. Bluntly the ABILITY to acutally set multiple levels of responsiblity rather than all or nothing. And ccp... finally gave us... last logged on in Kali. Go figure. Oh sorry. I forget its PvP in space. You builders missioners... You are just cannon fodder for the PvP Gods... /cynical bastard mode off. SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
Riddari Gekidoku	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:09:00 - [251] Originally by: Arenis Xemdal Gekidoku oddly resembles Reikoku. Stockholm? More like Tokyo. ¼+¼ a history
Havras The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:10:00 - [252] Edited by: Havras on 03/01/2007 17:13:27 Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Is there a bigger ** stirrer on these forums than you? I do like to find and hold it up and so that people can see it for what it is..... yeah... bite meh. Originally by:** Fitz Chivalry Did you not read what happened in 00Y? I found an idiom just for you: Closing the stable door after the horse has bolted See if you can work out how it applies to your corp... GK was probably your most precious commodity .. now that's bolted too. You guys are awesome.. seriously. Nez... stop... just stop. Everybody and their brother, including you, lambasted EDF over the OOY thing and the way their POS' were managed. Now you are roasting corps who always had and have proper security policies on who has access to their POS. REGARDLESS of the state of ASCN those policies in the remaining corps were in place before the fall of OOY. Hell, I've been in no other alliance but ASCN since I created my first character.. only 2 corps in that time and I barely have rights to the ship fittings hangar. lol. Stop looking for something to bash the remnants of ASCN over the head with.. because you know that if POSes in the Triangle suddenly got offlined by a single person you would be all over it like flies on stink bashing the corp for NOT maintaining tighter roles security.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:15:00 - [253] Originally by: Havras Stop looking for something to bash the remnants of ASCN over the head with.. because you know that if POSes in the Triangle suddenly got offlined by a single person you would be all over it like flies on stink bashing the corp for NOT maintaining tighter roles security. Tell you what.. I have 2 bil in my wallet.... I'll bet everything I own including my Navy Apoc that I sweated 4 months for with my agent.. that GK would cut his right hand off before offlining any ASCN pos. As for bashing ASCN over the head with stuff... you don't need me, you guys do that fine just by yourselves. I didnt post in this thread till the GK thing came up.... and I'll be struck down by lighting, if he can't walk away from this whole thing with his head held up high.
Riddari Gekidoku	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:19:00 - [254] As for Gungankllr, I knew BOB were taking the mickey by congratulating ASCN on selecting him as the spokesman back in the days... ¼+¼ a history
Noveron Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:25:00 - [255] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Havras Stop looking for something to bash the remnants of ASCN over the head with.. because you know that if POSes in the Triangle suddenly got offlined by a single person you would be all over it like flies on stink bashing the corp for NOT maintaining tighter roles security. Tell you what.. I have 2 bil in my wallet.... I'll bet everything I own including my Navy Apoc that I sweated 4 months for with my agent.. that GK would cut his right hand off before offlining any ASCN pos. As for bashing ASCN over the head with stuff... you don't need me, you guys do that fine just by yourselves. I didnt post in this thread till the GK thing came up.... and I'll be struck down by lighting, if he can't walk away from this whole thing with his head held up high. Offer him the POS role in your corp pal if it disturbs you so much..after all you know he can be trusted. Shame on him for bringing this to eve-o instead of talking directly to MT.. btw.
MuthaTrucka Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:28:00 - [256] Is it tinfoil hat time yet? --------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all.
Helen STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:30:00 - [257] You missed the boat MT it was tinfoil hat time months ago.
Cmd Woodlouse Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:36:00 - [258] EMO FTW! --------------------------------
MuthaTrucka Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:37:00 - [259] Originally by: Helen You missed the boat MT it was tinfoil hat time months ago. /me puts away the tinfoil hat --------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all.
vipeer Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:38:00 - [260] Edited by: vipeer on 03/01/2007 17:56:57 Nezzie is there a post on whole EVE-o forums that is about ASCN and is positive or even just neutral? Every piece of your "work" i have seen is smear smear smear ASCN. You aren't defending anyone here. You are raising a debate on an undebatable issue. edited for a spelling error Chaining BoBo in south Feyth:
Havras The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:40:00 - [261] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Havras Stop looking for something to bash the remnants of ASCN over the head with.. because you know that if POSes in the Triangle suddenly got offlined by a single person you would be all over it like flies on stink bashing the corp for NOT maintaining tighter roles security. Tell you what.. I have 2 bil in my wallet.... I'll bet everything I own including my Navy Apoc that I sweated 4 months for with my agent.. that GK would cut his right hand off before offlining any ASCN pos. As for bashing ASCN over the head with stuff... you don't need me, you guys do that fine just by yourselves. I didnt post in this thread till the GK thing came up.... and I'll be struck down by lighting, if he can't walk away from this whole thing with his head held up high. Nice Nez.. real nice. Completely ignore the valid points I made in the beginning of my post and just respond to the last paragraph. This has nothing to do with a slap in GK's face and everything to do with sticking to strict policies that have been in place all along. If you make an exception for any ONE member you have to make exceptions for others. You know damn well what kind of a slippery slope that is. It causes resentment and discontent among the corp if someone else was refused that access for a personal POS and then you turn around and give a different member that right. A policy like that, by nature, has to be maintained on a level field or else you start getting accused of favoritism which is a huge bag of worms.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:46:00 - [262] Originally by: Havras Nice Nez.. real nice. Completely ignore the valid points I made in the beginning of my post and just respond to the last paragraph. This has nothing to do with a slap in GK's face and everything to do with sticking to strict policies that have been in place all along. If you make an exception for any ONE member you have to make exceptions for others. You know damn well what kind of a slippery slope that is. It causes resentment and discontent among the corp if someone else was refused that access for a personal POS and then you turn around and give a different member that right. A policy like that, by nature, has to be maintained on a level field or else you start getting accused of favoritism which is a huge bag of worms. Look I can only quote you on stuff you type.. it is not my fault if you typed stuff you didnt want quoted. If you don't want it quoted.. don't say it. Now lets say your corporate policies are reasonable.... does this mean then that Gungan is being unreasonable? Has he lost his mind? Something is wrong.... and I'll say it again... either the stress of the last few months has finally got to Gungankllr... or this is NOT THE WHOLE story. And you people know very well that I'll keep plugging away till this makes sense.
Logan Feynman Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:48:00 - [263] Originally by: Nez Perces And you people know very well that I'll keep plugging away till this makes sense. Because ... if he lets this one go, he'll have to start letting other threads go, as well ... I'm sure you understand. Thank you. Thank you very much.
MuthaTrucka Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:50:00 - [264] Originally by: Nez Perces I didnt post in this thread till the GK thing came up.... and I'll be struck down by lighting, if he can't walk away from this whole thing with his head held up high. Choices, we all have them to make. He can walk away anyway he wants too. He chose to ask for Permission, I chose to deny him. He chose to listen to random people in chat, I chose to go to sleep. He chose to bring it to the Eve O forums, I chose to respond. He Chose to leave, I chose to tell him bye bye. You chose to make it a big deal that 1 person is leaving, and if there is one thing to be learned from ASCN is that no one person is that important, but the choices we make are important. As individuals the choices lead to us having fun, as Corporations the choices we make lead to the group becoming more than the individuals that make up it's membership, and as Alliances the Choices we make have consequences that we have to live with in the diorama that is EVE. --------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all.
Herculite Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:09:00 - [265] Since we have CLS's attention now, I do have an entirely unrelated question. Who's running off with all the alliance cookies? On paper, ASCN should have been able to field unlimited t1 fitted bs's for all members just by keeping the trit flowing, and if CEO pre-kali stockpiles were to be believed, there were plenty of mins saved. Since it seems everyone went broke in the war on their own wallet, and a few dozen lost pos's deployed in bob space and even the titan don't come close to covering the assets, where did all the cookies go? The chief cookie cutter my have retired, but the dough was still there.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:10:00 - [266] Edited by: Nez Perces on 03/01/2007 18:14:04 Originally by: MuthaTrucka Choices, we all have them to make. He can walk away anyway he wants too. He chose to ask for Permission, I chose to deny him. He chose to listen to random people in chat, I chose to go to sleep. He chose to bring it to the Eve O forums, I chose to respond. He Chose to leave, I chose to tell him bye bye. You chose to make it a big deal that 1 person is leaving, and if there is one thing to be learned from ASCN is that no one person is that important, but the choices we make are important. As individuals the choices lead to us having fun, as Corporations the choices we make lead to the group becoming more than the individuals that make up it's membership, and as Alliances the Choices we make have consequences that we have to live with in the diorama that is EVE. You know what... I read your post several times.... very carefully. Its a pretty dry post, very matter of fact. Btw you are not telling the truth about ASCN... there was one person who was very important, or have you forgotten him already. Cyvok... there was a time when ASCN members referred to themselves as Cyvokians. When Cyvok left you will be lying if you pretend that it was no big deal. I digress..... I think something has become clear from this. CLS is not bothered about GK leaving, I mean not really. At the end of the day it appears he was just another grunt. But what is strange is that a grunt had been elevated to such a position as that of GK... I mean a regular pilot is the public face of ASCN, he is not a director .. nor anybody with any responsability at the corporate level. One has to wonder, how he recieved the position in the first place... was it Cyvok's idea? Did CLS directorship resent him for having such a high profile position in EVE and yet no real position in the corp? When Cyvok left was GK a lame duck so to speak? Did SJ resent him for usurping his position as the public face of ASCN? It is very strange that before ASCN's last stand, GK felt the need to abandon the alliance that he so eloquently defended time and time again. The strangest thing is that CLS and ASCN don't seem to care that much, and are not too upset about it. It just happened... well stranger things have happened I guess.
Joram McRory Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:21:00 - [267] Originally by: Logan Feynman Originally by: Nez Perces And you people know very well that I'll keep plugging away till this makes sense. Because ... if he lets this one go, he'll have to start letting other threads go, as well ... I'm sure you understand. BoB and ASCN aside that is very very funny :-) Can we have a lock now?? Joram (CEO) My Photography site
MuthaTrucka Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:31:00 - [268] Quote: Btw you are not telling the truth about ASCN... there was one person who was very important, or have you forgotten him already. Cyvok... there was a time when ASCN members referred to themselves as Cyvokians. When Cyvok left you will be lying if you pretend that it was no big deal. Let me rephrase it so you understand, "The Lesson learned here is one person can not be considered Irreplaceable". Quote: I digress..... I think something has become clear from this. CLS is not bothered about GK leaving, I mean not really. At the end of the day it appears he was just another grunt. NO you mistake my Posts for an official CLS Post, It doesn't bother me in the least that he left, doesn't bother me that Cyvok left either. Quote: But what is strange is that a grunt had been elevated to such a position as that of GK... I mean a regular pilot is the public face of ASCN, he is not a director .. nor anybody with any responsability at the corporate level. As a Spokesmen, he was merely a unified voice. He held the power to make offical posts nothing more. As such he did not need to be a member of Corporate leadership. Quote: One has to wonder, how he recieved the position in the first place... was it Cyvok's idea? Did CLS directorship resent him for having such a high profile position in EVE and yet no real position in the corp? When Cyvok left was GK a lame duck so to speak? Did SJ resent him for usurping his position as the public face of ASCN? This question is mere tinfoil hattery and as such needs no response Quote: It is very strange that before ASCN's last stand, GK felt the need to abandon the alliance that he so eloquently defended time and time again. Why is that EDF Left before the last stand, CoRM did their Thing, STK did their Thing, Intrepid Crossing did their thing. On a smaller Scale Gung Used this as an Excuse to do his Thing. Just like you are doing your Thing. Quote: The strangest thing is that CLS and ASCN don't seem to care that much, and are not too upset about it. It just happened... well stranger things have happened I guess. Your mistaking my not caring to the Corp and Alliance not caring. I am sure someone somewhere cares, it is just that that person isn't me. --------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all.
Deidranna SteelVipers YouWhat	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:31:00 - [269] some people are just 0o blablabla all the day long GM Eldini > Hi, behaving are we?
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:35:00 - [270] Originally by: Nez Perces Did SJ resent him for usurping his position as the public face of ASCN? /me giggles... Nez... Please for love of god... Gimme what you are smoking. SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-

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