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Montolio
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 01:55:00 -
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I've been told by a GM that if any corporation in the alliance pays this bill, the auto pay checkbox will be unchecked on the executor corporation.
This makes zero sense to me, no action taken outside of the executor corporation should be able to impact any settings of the executor corporation. In what other situations can anyone toggle a checkbox without your direct action?
Does this mean executors now need to start checking monthly to see if they need to pay the bill in advance / recheck the box?
If you check a box it should stay checked. |
Lorren Canada
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 01:56:00 -
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CCP is retarded, more news at 11 |
Alina Wize
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 01:57:00 -
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Are there any personal alt corp slots open right now? |
Mantho
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 01:57:00 -
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Checkbox. |
Cinomed Fostergut
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 01:57:00 -
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Montolio wrote:I've been told by a GM that if any corporation in the alliance pays this bill, the auto pay checkbox will be unchecked on the executor corporation.
This makes zero sense to me, no action taken outside of the executor corporation should be able to impact any settings of the executor corporation. In what other situations can anyone toggle a checkbox without your direct action?
Does this mean executors now need to start checking monthly to see if they need to pay the bill in advance / recheck the box?
Without even a notification? Talk about some easy trolling... |
Gigiarc
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 01:58:00 -
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Kick B0rt. |
Yakar Kunn
Rim Collection RC
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 01:59:00 -
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What's the point of the checkbox if you have to check it every month? |
Xavier Thorm
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 01:59:00 -
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Montolio wrote:I've been told by a GM that if any corporation in the alliance pays this bill, the auto pay checkbox will be unchecked on the executor corporation.
This makes zero sense to me, no action taken outside of the executor corporation should be able to impact any settings of the executor corporation. In what other situations can anyone toggle a checkbox without your direct action?
Does this mean executors now need to start checking monthly to see if they need to pay the bill in advance / recheck the box?
If you check a box it should stay checked.
This would seem to defeat the entire point of the auto pay feature. It's not very automatic if so much as looking at it funny turns it off. |
Jack Haydn
Valar Morghulis.
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:02:00 -
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:CCP: |
fencejumper
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:02:00 -
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*Logs into test director alt, disbands TEST* |
Magerawr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:03:00 -
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Yakar Kunn wrote:What's the point of the checkbox if you have to check it every month?
CCP brings new meaning to the word 'checkbox'. |
Cynosurza
FCON Aerarium Militare
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:06:00 -
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Another mindless, illogical setting brought to you by :CCP:
Fix now, CCP, stop letting GMs try to make logic out of something that makes no sense, this is obviously a bug and needs to be fixed now. |
Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:07:00 -
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Most powerful checkbox ever |
Raptor217
Martyr's Vengence
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:08:00 -
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This is just one of those bugs they're calling a feature... |
fencejumper
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:11:00 -
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Aryndel Vyst wrote:Most powerful checkbox ever
Tied with the sov box :) |
Jessie Gavin
Kick B0rt
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:12:00 -
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BRB, disbanding TEST from the alt corp |
Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:13:00 -
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While we're here can we have a spacebook 'like' circlejerk? I've been conditioned to enjoy accumulating imaginary internet points. |
BiggerDangDude
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:15:00 -
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You can tell GM's to get raped by a train right? That's what I would do. Then I would ask to speak to their manager. |
Tomato Tomato
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:15:00 -
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Is this the new game CCP was working on? |
Lake
The Praxis Initiative
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:23:00 -
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This "intended behavior" is a bug, and no matter how straight of a face you keep while you repeat "intended behavior" it doesn't make it not a bug.
It needs to be fixed.
GMs should take action to ameliorate any inconvenience endured by those affected by this bug. |
leetcheese
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:27:00 -
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working as intended
the logs show nothing
CCP was the third man on the grassy knoll |
BoodaBooda
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:29:00 -
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Shutup nerd.
CCP Fix this before one of our ****** corps (Dreddit) disbands the alliance accidentally/intentionally.
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Dirk Action
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:30:00 -
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CCP just knows how much TEST loves checkboxes, I'm sure they thought making you deal with even more of them was a great idea. |
Corvus Alias
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:38:00 -
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I can has checkbox? |
A3sir
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:38:00 -
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NO CZECHBAWX, NO VOTE |
DrDan21
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:44:00 -
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Yakar Kunn wrote:What's the point of the checkbox if you have to check it every month?
It's a lot like a remember me box that you need to check each and every time you log in. It remembers to forget and makes sense because :ccp: |
Marcus Ratz
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 03:12:00 -
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Just tie a piece of string around your finger to remind you to check the note in your pocket, that tells you tell check to make sure the checkbox is ticked.
You can put a yellow post it note on your monitor to remind you why you have a piece of string tied around your finger. |
SuperBeastie
Martyr's Vengence
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 03:37:00 -
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I'll be entertaining offers on disbanding test please post all offers here. |
DurrHurrDurr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 03:40:00 -
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I've read the petition text. I'll tell you right now, it's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
The GM flat-out says the autopay checkbox doesn't autopay the bill and that the mechanic is working entirely as intended.
It's like CCP GMs have some sort of aggressive brain cancer that causes them to be disgustingly bad at customer service and unable to realize simple things, like the fact that an autopay button not autopaying isn't an intended mechanic.
The entire GM system is essentially broken. There's no legitimate accountability for any sort of GM action because publicly displaying the text of a petition is forbidden. We can't go and yell at a GM on Facebook/Twitter/the forums because rather than addressing the issue, it's far more convenient to simply ban the player who posted their petition, delete/lock the thread and sweep it under the rug. The CCP Internal Affairs e-mail is a joke as well; nothing ever gets accomplished by e-mailing them because the people that run it are also GMs.
There isn't any point in contesting a broken mechanic; you're not going to get anywhere because it's easier for GMs to ignore the issue and close your petition. |
DurrHurrDurr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.12 03:49:00 -
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The thing that frustrates me beyond all the other problems with the GM system and CCP in general is that this is a serious, potentially game-breaking issue. We've already seen one alliance disband less than 48 hours after the deployment of Crucible due to this mechanic and there's no reason that should have occurred other than developer negligence.
This is the sort of thing that needs to be hotfixed immediately when discovered. Any corporate director right now can log in and break the alliance auto-pay checkbox. They can do it moments before alliance bills are due to be paid.
I know alliances have been disbanded in the past (BoB, UFA, Ushra'Khan), but that was due to legitimate alliance directors and CEOs going rogue. The difference here is that any director of any corporation in the alliance can essentially disband your alliance provided they time it right. That's a broken mechanic that needs to be fixed as soon as humanly possible, considering the timeframes required to re-establish an alliance in their space (weeks for jump bridges, two months for sovereignty V, a week just to take a station when timed properly).
Just watch, though. Nothing's going to happen. It took a mass protest and diminishing subscription numbers in order to get the developers to introduce something as standard as iterative balance (and all they did for sovereignty warfare was inadvertently buff supercapitals by making them properly Remote ECM Burst-immune), and no one should have any faith that problems and bugs, even ones as major as this, will be fixed promptly with their track record. |
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