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Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:21:02 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Licensing for the book to use the EVE Universe IP.
Will there be punishment handed out for mittens being caught RMTing via the Kickstarter? Or was that part of the deal setup with CCP and it gets him a free pass? Not trying to start ****, but the community deserves to know what is going on considering CCP has been giving perma-bans for the exchange of real money for in game items before.
Has there actually been an exchange of real money for in game items in this case? |
Lord LazyGhost
Sons Against Humanity
498
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:21:54 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Licensing for the book to use the EVE Universe IP.
thats good support...
will not sue the **** out of you happy xmas :)
good old CCP :) |
Camios
Dutch East Querious Company Phoebe Freeport Republic
166
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:26:58 -
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I wish The Mittani the best in this endeavour, thinking about pledging. A comment though: why the hell would anyone pledge 250 euros for that? That's a cool thing, but... This I will never understand. |
Aoife Fraoch
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
239
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:29:40 -
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baltec1 wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
See the answer above yours. An even larger project (in scope, duration and investment) it's being done for 12,500 $.
Said guy is not working on it full time as his job. Your grr gon is showing.
I have no grr to give, it seems like effort, look at my first post in this thread.
Anyway it's a kick starter. I will back/not back based on the idea and the tiers. The back-end cost structure is mostly irrelevant to me as a backer (unless the need to start selling photos of pages after the campaign to keep the project afloat....)
It is interesting that they might be treating it as a fully paid pre-order with any post campaign sales as profit.
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mech res
Fwaction Warfare Corporwation
0
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:32:09 -
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Owen Levanth wrote:mech res wrote:According to the Mittani.com writer, Sion Kumitomo, CCP and the Mittani are partners. "TheMittani.com in partnership with CCP and best selling author Jeff Edwards is proud to announce that we'll be bringing you the incredible story of the Fountain War." https://www.themittani.com/news/themittanicom-and-ccp-games-announce-kickstarter-campaign According to CCP Falcon it appears CCP is only allowing the eve intellectual property rights to be used. It's unclear who is getting what from this. Are the rest of the profits being split between the mittani and the author? What profits? They have to make the book first. Kickstarter donations aren't profit. And most of the Kickstarter money goes to the author so he can work full-time on the book.
Will the book not continue to sell after it is made? Or is it then given out for free? If it is to be sold who gets the money?
Generally partners share the costs and the profits. They also generally need to have aligned goals.
According to the Mittani.com, CCP and the mittani are partners in this with the author.
According to CCP Falcon, CCP is only allowing them to use the EVE name and related ip. Well he said they are allowing that. He technically didn't say that is all the involvement ccp has. I would be interested in knowing if CCP is partnering with the mittani.
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Aoife Fraoch
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
239
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:40:49 -
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mech res wrote:Owen Levanth wrote:mech res wrote:According to the Mittani.com writer, Sion Kumitomo, CCP and the Mittani are partners. "TheMittani.com in partnership with CCP and best selling author Jeff Edwards is proud to announce that we'll be bringing you the incredible story of the Fountain War." https://www.themittani.com/news/themittanicom-and-ccp-games-announce-kickstarter-campaign According to CCP Falcon it appears CCP is only allowing the eve intellectual property rights to be used. It's unclear who is getting what from this. Are the rest of the profits being split between the mittani and the author? What profits? They have to make the book first. Kickstarter donations aren't profit. And most of the Kickstarter money goes to the author so he can work full-time on the book. Will the book not continue to sell after it is made? Or is it then given out for free? If it is to be sold who gets the money? Generally partners share the costs and the profits. They also generally need to have aligned goals. According to the Mittani.com, CCP and the mittani are partners in this with the author. According to CCP Falcon, CCP is only allowing them to use the EVE name and related ip. Well he said they are allowing that. He technically didn't say that is all the involvement ccp has. I would be interested in knowing if CCP is partnering with the mittani.
Now this is grrrr goons with a side of manufactured controversy. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
2369
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:44:35 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Licensing for the book to use the EVE Universe IP. ... to Mittens? Are you insane?!
Erotic EVE hentai fiction incoming in 5 ... 4 ... 3...
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25613
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:46:39 -
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mech res wrote:According to CCP Falcon, CCP is only allowing them to use the EVE name and related ip. Well he said they are allowing that. He technically didn't say that is all the involvement ccp has. I would be interested in knowing if CCP is partnering with the mittani. By allowing the use of their intellectual property they are de facto partners in the same way that they're partners with Baltasar Korm+íkur for the TV series and with Dark Horse Comics for the comics. They're essentially licensing their property (the stories we create with their game) to 3rd parties, it's a fairly normal occurrence in the real world.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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mech res
Fwaction Warfare Corporwation
0
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:59:44 -
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Aoife Fraoch wrote:mech res wrote: Will the book not continue to sell after it is made? Or is it then given out for free? If it is to be sold who gets the money?
Generally partners share the costs and the profits. They also generally need to have aligned goals.
According to the Mittani.com, CCP and the mittani are partners in this with the author.
According to CCP Falcon, CCP is only allowing them to use the EVE name and related ip. Well he said they are allowing that. He technically didn't say that is all the involvement ccp has. I would be interested in knowing if CCP is partnering with the mittani.
Now this is grrrr goons with a side of manufactured controversy.
Ok yet another eve-o thread sidetracked with silly mantras like "grrr goons."
I like(d) plenty of goons but I admit the mittani (the real person) strikes me as pretty slimy and less than honest. I would like to know if ccp thinks they are partnering with him or if they think that is a bit of a stretch. Are they more involved in this project than they were about the other book about the history of eve? Either they are or not. I am not trying to manufacture anything. Just asking some questions that ccp likely anticipated, given Mr. Gianturco's past actions and statements.
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:mech res wrote:According to CCP Falcon, CCP is only allowing them to use the EVE name and related ip. Well he said they are allowing that. He technically didn't say that is all the involvement ccp has. I would be interested in knowing if CCP is partnering with the mittani. By allowing the use of their intellectual property they are de facto partners in the same way that they're partners with Baltasar Korm+íkur for the TV series and with Dark Horse Comics for the comics. They're essentially licensing their property (the stories we create with their game) to 3rd parties, it's a fairly normal occurrence in the real world.
That is a bit of stretch of the term partnership. The author of the other book did not claim he was partnering with ccp. That is why I ask if that is the extent of ccp's involvement. |
Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
1125
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Posted - 2015.11.03 23:05:05 -
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i guess it's the done thing these days to try to squeeze a dollar out of any amount of e-celebrity. There is a gulf of disconnect between the small gaggle of nerds who are in the market for a book on this and the larger group who have no clue beyond an ignorant sort of grrr gons hat gons outlook. Both those groups together add up to a tiny pool to be fishing in, are these kickstarters all just begging? Jeff Edwards' writing is weak. He's basically a technical writer with no real turn of phrase, using the word hilarious for rice cakes. I can't stay awake watching EvE, or imagine a book about it. EvE fiction is uniformly awful, with some of the clunkiest descriptive passages i've ever seen dropped into inert by-the-numbers listing of events. Go ahead, call me negative, i see nothing here deserving thousands of dollars, just a low key attempt to milk.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2015.11.03 23:40:32 -
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SINCE MY DIVORCE ALL I WANT TO DO IS DIE
I AM JUST SICK AND TIRED OF SITTING HERE ALONE AND HAVING TO PLAY WITH MYSELF
EVERYONE JUST TAKES WHAT YOU HAVE AND THATS IT NEVER TO HEAR FROM THEM AGAIN |
Estelie Heyan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.11.04 00:05:13 -
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mech res wrote:Will the book not continue to sell after it is made? Or is it then given out for free? If it is to be sold who gets the money?
Generally partners share the costs and the profits. They also generally need to have aligned goals.
According to the Mittani.com, CCP and the mittani are partners in this with the author.
According to CCP Falcon, CCP is only allowing them to use the EVE name and related ip. Well he said they are allowing that. He technically didn't say that is all the involvement ccp has. I would be interested in knowing if CCP is partnering with the mittani. The amount of stupid in this thread is amazing
1. Mittens is a trust fund babby and doesnt care about isk ingame/ out of game or making money from game
2. Why do pubbies wanna **** on somebody trying to do something good for this dying game
3. If it was a chribba or sugar kyle it wouldnt have nearly the same exposure/backing but all of your little grr goon hearts would feel better about it.
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SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Squids
363
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Posted - 2015.11.04 00:29:21 -
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Estelie Heyan wrote:mech res wrote:Will the book not continue to sell after it is made? Or is it then given out for free? If it is to be sold who gets the money?
Generally partners share the costs and the profits. They also generally need to have aligned goals.
According to the Mittani.com, CCP and the mittani are partners in this with the author.
According to CCP Falcon, CCP is only allowing them to use the EVE name and related ip. Well he said they are allowing that. He technically didn't say that is all the involvement ccp has. I would be interested in knowing if CCP is partnering with the mittani. The amount of stupid in this thread is amazing 1. Mittens is a trust fund babby and doesnt care about isk ingame/ out of game or making money from game 2. Why do pubbies wanna **** on somebody trying to do something good for this dying game 3. If it was a chribba or sugar kyle it wouldnt have nearly the same exposure/backing but all of your little grr goon hearts would feel better about it. I would not call RMT good for the game. |
Cidanel Afuran
Static-Noise Upholders
367
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Posted - 2015.11.04 00:41:59 -
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Estelie Heyan wrote:2. Why do pubbies wanna **** on somebody trying to do something good for this dying game
Because literally nothing about EVE conditions us to trust someone at their word....
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Estelie Heyan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.11.04 00:49:57 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:I would not call RMT good for the game. You missed the part where he doesnt care about money. RMT is somebody taking their ingame assetts and trading them for USD, because they want USD.
Obviously the kickstarter thing is new territory because nobody has ever done this before, the stretch goal was changed and removed almost immediately but if you wanna keep on raging then knock yourself out. |
Aoife Fraoch
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
239
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Posted - 2015.11.04 00:51:37 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Estelie Heyan wrote:mech res wrote:Will the book not continue to sell after it is made? Or is it then given out for free? If it is to be sold who gets the money?
Generally partners share the costs and the profits. They also generally need to have aligned goals.
According to the Mittani.com, CCP and the mittani are partners in this with the author.
According to CCP Falcon, CCP is only allowing them to use the EVE name and related ip. Well he said they are allowing that. He technically didn't say that is all the involvement ccp has. I would be interested in knowing if CCP is partnering with the mittani. The amount of stupid in this thread is amazing 1. Mittens is a trust fund babby and doesnt care about isk ingame/ out of game or making money from game 2. Why do pubbies wanna **** on somebody trying to do something good for this dying game 3. If it was a chribba or sugar kyle it wouldnt have nearly the same exposure/backing but all of your little grr goon hearts would feel better about it. I would not call RMT good for the game.
I am very very curious about how you define RMT. Maybe I am old fashioned but I define it as acquiring in game assets or advantage with cash outside of approved channels. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp Vae. Victis.
6326
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Posted - 2015.11.04 00:58:35 -
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Fanny-Basher wrote:while your on the topic of goons i belive ive read a post where it seems goons capture players ip addresses and try to narrow down who is who and ddos fc's and people when they need to it seems goons are rubbing alot of players up the wrong way also the ganking in hisec the punishments are not enough its crazy that hisec is not as safe as one would think or expect i unsubbed and just wanted to see if it was worth coming back :) If you expected EVE High Sec to be safe then the only issue here is your incorrect expectations.
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mech res
Fwaction Warfare Corporwation
0
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Posted - 2015.11.04 00:59:36 -
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Estelie Heyan wrote:mech res wrote:Will the book not continue to sell after it is made? Or is it then given out for free? If it is to be sold who gets the money?
Generally partners share the costs and the profits. They also generally need to have aligned goals.
According to the Mittani.com, CCP and the mittani are partners in this with the author.
According to CCP Falcon, CCP is only allowing them to use the EVE name and related ip. Well he said they are allowing that. He technically didn't say that is all the involvement ccp has. I would be interested in knowing if CCP is partnering with the mittani. The amount of stupid in this thread is amazing 1. Mittens is a trust fund babby and doesnt care about isk ingame/ out of game or making money from game 2. Why do pubbies wanna **** on somebody trying to do something good for this dying game 3. If it was a chribba or sugar kyle it wouldnt have nearly the same exposure/backing but all of your little grr goon hearts would feel better about it.
I'm not sure your post helps the thread.
1) Everyone cares about money. Mittani said he made some great big amount of money as a lawyer which meant he could retire. But I suspected he was a trust fund baby. Did he finally admit it?
2) More "grr goons" "pubbies" talk. Whatever that means now - are karmafleet "pubbies"?
3) Mittani has allot of fanatical cheerleaders - like yourself. But he also leaves a bad taste in allot of mouths and turns people off from eve. I hope ccp realizes that.
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Estelie Heyan wrote: You missed the part where he doesnt care about money. RMT is somebody taking their ingame assetts and trading them for USD, because they want USD.
Obviously the kickstarter thing is new territory because nobody has ever done this before, the stretch goal was changed and removed almost immediately but if you wanna keep on raging then knock yourself out.
Yeah sure, he doesn't care about money.
And the "kickstarter thing" was done before. |
d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
270
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Posted - 2015.11.04 01:07:44 -
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Estelie Heyan wrote:mech res wrote:Will the book not continue to sell after it is made? Or is it then given out for free? If it is to be sold who gets the money?
Generally partners share the costs and the profits. They also generally need to have aligned goals.
According to the Mittani.com, CCP and the mittani are partners in this with the author.
According to CCP Falcon, CCP is only allowing them to use the EVE name and related ip. Well he said they are allowing that. He technically didn't say that is all the involvement ccp has. I would be interested in knowing if CCP is partnering with the mittani. The amount of stupid in this thread is amazing 1. Mittens is a trust fund babby and doesnt care about isk ingame/ out of game or making money from game 2. Why do pubbies wanna **** on somebody trying to do something good for this dying game 3. If it was a chribba or sugar kyle it wouldnt have nearly the same exposure/backing but all of your little grr goon hearts would feel better about it.
It's just little people/players trying to piggy back on popular people/players.
Been around since the beginning.
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Nafensoriel
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
172
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Posted - 2015.11.04 01:18:29 -
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No its just the Mittani effect. You see it when he undocks and people sperg themselves trying to kill him. Post his name in the forums attached to something and you have an instantly polarized topic. It could be "The mittani prefers grape jelly to strawberry jam" and people will still go nuts.
The RMT claim is laughable when put into actual context as well. No items were sold and it wasnt a sustainable business model. It was a one time event that someone didnt think out very clearly first. Sh*t happens and people make mistakes.
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d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
270
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Posted - 2015.11.04 01:32:29 -
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Nafensoriel wrote:No its just the Mittani effect. You see it when he undocks and people sperg themselves trying to kill him. Post his name in the forums attached to something and you have an instantly polarized topic. It could be "The mittani prefers grape jelly to strawberry jam" and people will still go nuts.
The RMT claim is laughable when put into actual context as well. No items were sold and it wasnt a sustainable business model. It was a one time event that someone didnt think out very clearly first. Sh*t happens and people make mistakes.
That's exactly what i described.
You see it in the real world with regular people and celebrities.
Been around since the beginning.
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Giaus Felix
Hedion University Amarr Empire
100
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Posted - 2015.11.04 01:34:57 -
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mech res wrote:3) Mittani has allot of fanatical cheerleaders - like yourself. But he also leaves a bad taste in allot of mouths and turns people off from eve. I hope ccp realizes that. He's an ex corporate lawyer that has become the bastard adopted child of Ming the Merciless and Genghis Khan; what's not to love?
At the end of the day he plays an evil space tyrant and he's good at it, haters gonna hate.
I am Ralph's junk DNA.
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Aiwha
Infinite Point DARKNESS.
892
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Posted - 2015.11.04 01:40:43 -
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Harry Forever wrote:mech res wrote:According to the Mittani, CCP is backing his book regarding his alliance evicting test. He has posted that CCP is supporting and backing this project.
I am curious if this is more than just moral support. From what I see it appears to mostly be that. But it goes beyond that, I would like to know how much support CCP is giving to this player's endeavors.
Here is an example of a quote from the mittani:
"When CCP, Jeff Edwards and The Mittani Media decided to collaborate in writing science fiction thrillers based on the stories created in EVE Online, we knew that this would be only the first of many epic stories we would tell. Combining the remarkable writing talent of Jeff Edwards with the strength and support of CCP Games and The Mittani Media, this book is destined to captivate science fiction, action, suspense, and military fiction fans everywhere." they better write about how I extracted goontears in VFK for months, the fountain war, just a reason to escape my torpedos
You must be new to how mittens "narrates".
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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mech res
Fwaction Warfare Corporwation
0
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Posted - 2015.11.04 02:53:12 -
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First nothing mittani does in game causes distaste. People can play eve how they like.
Giaus Felix wrote:mech res wrote:3) Mittani has allot of fanatical cheerleaders - like yourself. But he also leaves a bad taste in allot of mouths and turns people off from eve. I hope ccp realizes that. He's an ex corporate lawyer that has become the bastard adopted space child of Ming the Merciless and Genghis Khan; what's not to love? At the end of the day he plays an evil space tyrant and he's good at it, haters gonna hate.
Ah yeah the whole successful corporate attorney yarn. It doesn't matter what people do out of game, but Mittani uses those claims to promote himself. Of course if you challenge his claims then you are accused of attacking someone personally.
Anyway I would still like to know if what CCP Falcon said was the full extent of ccp's "partnership" with the mittani. |
Chapmonious Hunter
Pwn 'N Play SpaceMonkey's Alliance
90
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Posted - 2015.11.04 03:08:53 -
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Posting in not so subtle "grrr goons" thread |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
16876
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Posted - 2015.11.04 03:40:48 -
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Aiwha wrote:Harry Forever wrote:mech res wrote:According to the Mittani, CCP is backing his book regarding his alliance evicting test. He has posted that CCP is supporting and backing this project.
I am curious if this is more than just moral support. From what I see it appears to mostly be that. But it goes beyond that, I would like to know how much support CCP is giving to this player's endeavors.
Here is an example of a quote from the mittani:
"When CCP, Jeff Edwards and The Mittani Media decided to collaborate in writing science fiction thrillers based on the stories created in EVE Online, we knew that this would be only the first of many epic stories we would tell. Combining the remarkable writing talent of Jeff Edwards with the strength and support of CCP Games and The Mittani Media, this book is destined to captivate science fiction, action, suspense, and military fiction fans everywhere." they better write about how I extracted goontears in VFK for months, the fountain war, just a reason to escape my torpedos You must be new to how mittens "narrates".
His getting into the book isn't all that far fetched, after all, we did take him with us on deployments.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
6451
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Posted - 2015.11.04 03:47:36 -
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Removed an off topic post.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2015.11.04 03:50:24 -
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Maybe if the F1 monkeys went out and created content they too can be in a position to do something like this.
But we know they will just make dumb-ass posts and QQ to anyone who will listen. While waiting for someone else to create content for them.
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Rhiannon Marius
Marius Family Enterprises Unlimited
55
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Posted - 2015.11.04 06:27:58 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Estelie Heyan wrote:mech res wrote:Will the book not continue to sell after it is made? Or is it then given out for free? If it is to be sold who gets the money?
Generally partners share the costs and the profits. They also generally need to have aligned goals.
According to the Mittani.com, CCP and the mittani are partners in this with the author.
According to CCP Falcon, CCP is only allowing them to use the EVE name and related ip. Well he said they are allowing that. He technically didn't say that is all the involvement ccp has. I would be interested in knowing if CCP is partnering with the mittani. The amount of stupid in this thread is amazing 1. Mittens is a trust fund babby and doesnt care about isk ingame/ out of game or making money from game 2. Why do pubbies wanna **** on somebody trying to do something good for this dying game 3. If it was a chribba or sugar kyle it wouldnt have nearly the same exposure/backing but all of your little grr goon hearts would feel better about it. I would not call RMT good for the game.
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
441
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Posted - 2015.11.04 08:07:53 -
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Just watch. He'll dupe as many people as the PLEX sellers.
Fear of death follows from fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time. -Mark Twain -
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