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Tachy	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:06:00 - [31] Make NPC corpers' ships explode when their bounties are high enough to be taxed. Oh wait. That would make a lot of people kinda unhappy because their cheap ganks would be missing. Where does the hate against NPC corp members come from? Did you decide to leave the npc corp too early so you didn't feel the love? Your corp atm abuses you so badly that you have to strike out at those that have even less of a corp to feel at home? What is your problem with those Achura that leave the system as soon as you enter it? (Okay, they mostly wont play with you, so ... Ah, they steal your limited resource of npc.) --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Galk Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:07:00 - [32] Done to death last year. Basicaly the same people who continiously call for all agents to be low sec.... players to be booted out of npc corps or restricted to a non existant entity in the game, and a host of other things that would upset peoples apple carts. Same message, same story... same people posting to agree. ______
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:10:00 - [33] Originally by: Tachy Where does the hate against NPC corp members come from? Because they are playing EVE without risk, yet getting the same reward as those who are not avoiding risk. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
the Entity	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:14:00 - [34] I'm with Curzon on this- the taxing of npc corps is not necessary,nor worth it. Whilst player corps can erect pos's,generate income within thier corp by thier members FOR thier members and support each other on the whole, NPC players merely have a chat window...We dont have NPC corps supplying us with anything,no ships no ammo no alliance support etc.Hell,we can barely venture into lowsec/0.0 without being shot at purely because we are NPC. You all should be paying more attention to your own backyard before intefering with ours, if u think its so beneficial to be in a noob corp,then come join us and see...
Kane Ululani REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:14:00 - [35] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tachy Where does the hate against NPC corp members come from? Because they are playing EVE without risk, yet getting the same reward as those who are not avoiding risk. Explain T2 producer's risk.
Verus Potestas Caldari The I-Win Button	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:15:00 - [36] Originally by: Kane Ululani Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tachy Where does the hate against NPC corp members come from? Because they are playing EVE without risk, yet getting the same reward as those who are not avoiding risk. Explain T2 producer's risk. They can be decced as much as you can? (unless they are in an NPC corp, see 1) --- In third-party forums we trust Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
Levin Milraco	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:15:00 - [37] thing is though, the people who are in npc corp are probley not the type that want to play the OMG-adrenaline blood rush pvp types....sure, you can nerf them to hell and back (already done...compare player corp to npc...theres a list somewhere on the forum..) but you wont get them into low sec or into pvp unwillingly....=P is like the whole move agents thing by the CS kiddies wanting more targets (real pirates have no problems.) but thing is though, even if its done, it wont get the results. those who dont want the risks just wont take it.. or log off. simple as that. and CCP acounting would definately say... leave them(ppl who dont want to pvp) alone as long as they are still paying subs...
Levin Milraco	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:16:00 - [38] Edited by: Levin Milraco on 03/01/2007 18:16:14 Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: Kane Ululani Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tachy Where does the hate against NPC corp members come from? Because they are playing EVE without risk, yet getting the same reward as those who are not avoiding risk. Explain T2 producer's risk. They can be decced as much as you can? (unless they are in an NPC corp, see 1) yes, but wardec takes 24 hours..... what stops them from disbanding and forming a corp of one? heck, any player can do that, wardeced, and make a corp of one... simple. there is no forcing people to pvp... many options out there with logging off being the last.
Gone'Postal Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:16:00 - [39] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tachy Where does the hate against NPC corp members come from? Because they are playing EVE without risk, yet getting the same reward as those who are not avoiding risk. So a player in a NPC corp goes into a mission without risk ? Known Issues & Workarounds - The forum to fix the issues of Eve... Godhelp us if the Devs start trying to.
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:18:00 - [40] NPC corporations and war dec avoidance are not just a case of carebears minimising the possibility of being shot at. An equally serious problem is that NPC corps give PVP active entities the option of removing a large portion of their economic base from a war. You see this in action when NPC corp members carry goods in transports and freighters, then sell them in a hub, paying no tax but the trivial broker fees. So even if someone fights, they say "Oh no, I only wager my pawns, not my economic system". I saw this in a war against Tre Kroner alliance, when a freighter belonging to that alliance undocked minutes before the war went active, flew off towards a hub and later returned sporting an NPC corp ticker. Which it retained for the duration of the conflict. Nerf elite industrials and freighters in NPC corps while you're at it. Though I am not holding my breath, changes are never made merely to bring gameplay in line with the spirit of the game, only to gamebreaking stuff.

DirtyHarry Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:18:00 - [41] Definately a good idea, being practically invicible should come at a cost. Havocide - DirtyHarryF-E Homepage F-E Killboard
Verus Potestas Caldari The I-Win Button	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:19:00 - [42] Originally by: Gone'Postal Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tachy Where does the hate against NPC corp members come from? Because they are playing EVE without risk, yet getting the same reward as those who are not avoiding risk. So a player in a NPC corp goes into a mission without risk ? I'm in a player corp and I do that --- In third-party forums we trust Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
Gone'Postal Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:20:00 - [43] Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: Gone'Postal Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tachy Where does the hate against NPC corp members come from? Because they are playing EVE without risk, yet getting the same reward as those who are not avoiding risk. So a player in a NPC corp goes into a mission without risk ? I'm in a player corp and I do that Your choice to be in a player corp. There choice to be in a NPC corp. Known Issues & Workarounds - The forum to fix the issues of Eve... Godhelp us if the Devs start trying to.
Kylania Gallente Phoenix Industries	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:20:00 - [44] No. Stop it. Leave NPC corps alone. -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap \| How to Build from a BPO
Lasus	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:23:00 - [45] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 03/01/2007 17:11:21 Originally by: Lasus I have been playing about 6 months. I was in a player corp that eventually just dissolved. Now I am in a NPC corp. I will join a player corp when I find one that fits my style of play. However I will do it in my own good time. None of you have the right to tell me how I play. Don't you people have enough targets to shoot at ?? If I started my own corp I am sure I would be war decced and I don't have enough ISK to hire any one to protect me. None of the ideas about making it hard to stay in an NPC corp will stop macro miners. So you play your way I'll play my way. If the devs dont like the way I play they can change the rules. The one thing that attracted me to EVE was the freedom to play however I want, not to please other players. If you really think someone is going to wardec your one-man corporation the instant you create it, either you are paranoid beyond belief or you are a macro miner. Plain and simple. EVE is about risk vs reward. If you choose to lead a profession with very little risk, the reward should be diminished. Dark I have seen your posts on this forum and even if I dont agree I have always respected your opinion. I did not think you would ever stoop to personal attacks to try to make a point. For your information I am not a macro miner. I have been playing multiplayer games probably longer than you have. I am 61 years OLD and I always play by the rules in a MMO. I do not like gold sellers, people that sell in game items, people that use macros. I am not an alt. I am based in Bille and I mine in low sec, mainly elerel( If I spelled it correctly). I have lost ships and have been podded. I dont cry about it. I dont hide in "high sec space". If you want to preach Risk vs Reward you should talk about suicide gankers,and gate campers. Any way very disappointed in your responce. Pain n An unpleasant feeling or sensation usually caused by the good fortune of another
Verus Potestas Caldari The I-Win Button	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:25:00 - [46] So, you aren't a macrominer, yet are terrified of a player corps, gate campers or suicide gankers? Shikari DID leave another option --- In third-party forums we trust Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
Roy Batty68 Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:27:00 - [47] So the "problem" is - NPC corps can't be wardecced. And the "solution" is - NPC corp members should pay a tax... So they'll still be "invincible", as DS put it, just with less money... Somehow I don't really see that "solving" anything. People will still complain about "invincible" NPC corp members. No one will feel better about this 15% tax except maybe a few people in this thread who can sit back and do their maniacle laugh while thinking, "those noobie corp members may be safe, but they're paying for it! Oooooh yes, they'll pay!" Sorry, but that's retarded. Why not get more creative? Like single person wardecs? If you can wardec an entire corperation for a mil, why not just 1 person for the same price? Can work just like corp wardecs in that you'd have the 24h spin up period so no 30 second surprises. Then you can get revenge on that mouthy guy in local or whatever, but no, "Oh look! a hulk!" -> wardec -> shoot -> loot. 24 hours so target gets a warning, maybe only last a couple of days but you get a shot at the no longer "invincible" noob corp guy. And should be strict 1v1, outside help on the aggressor gets teh CONCORD. Basically buying kill rights for a couple days. I mean come on... What? You Elliot Ness? Why go after them with taxes when you could pew pew? That sounds more fun than a stupid tax. But hey, that's just me.
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:27:00 - [48] The tax is all about getting people to owe up and stop playing the game OUTSIDE the game. I'm afraid there's still going to be an untouchable crowd that is, perhaps, even more urgent to get rid of (noobie alts). The basic concept is that the real newbies won't get taxed (they're killing to low rats and get too low rewards form missions). Additionally, one could also exclude the newbie (academy) corporations from the taxing and have each character that is over (arbitrarily) one month old booted (into an NPC, taxed, corporation). As for the RP crap about Caldari State (or rather the owning corporation in case of Caldari State) not taxing people they love, I'm quite sure that the most beloved man of each nation (let's tax the President in an arbitrarily chosen western RL democracy) is most likely to STILL PAY TAXES. Someone's got to finance the State's police forces, infrastructure, indoctrination schools, research institutes, and so on. Don't expect the Gallente to do it, and don't expect the Caldari gambling addicts to do it (even though they are extremely numerous). Gods! It's even doubtful whether Caldari pod pilots can actually fit in to the Caldari society, but anyone role playing oriented wisely ignore that (rich, liberal, snobs). In either case. - EVE is sick.
Tachy	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:29:00 - [49] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tachy Where does the hate against NPC corp members come from? Because they are playing EVE without risk, yet getting the same reward as those who are not avoiding risk. How do they interfere with your style of playing? Most of them don't even interfere with mine unless they buy my ships, modules or ammo. And I am mostly living in HiSec. If they had less money to spend, it would hurt my wallet. Probably not by a lot as most of my products change hands in bulk, but the occasional module is probably fitted by NPC corp members. Why do you try to interfere with their style of play? What should they pay taxes for? No existing corp expenses? The factory and labslots at NPC stations they're paying anyway? For the market system they're already paying fees and taxes for? For the skill books, oh wait, they have to buy them all alone, and the corps don't offer prime deals on minerals, no ships and they can't declare war (yet?). Sovereignity is out of question too, so no new space with better minerals available for them in their home turf. When they cross your path, you can pop their ships and pods without Concord interfering, right? The 15% tax is no incentive to leave the NPC corp. When it is high enough to be an 'incentive', then you'd be hurting young pilot's ability to do anything in game. --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Verus Potestas Caldari The I-Win Button	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:30:00 - [50] Originally by: Roy Batty68 So the "problem" is - NPC corps can't be wardecced. And the "solution" is - NPC corp members should pay a tax... So they'll still be "invincible", as DS put it, just with less money... Somehow I don't really see that "solving" anything. Risk vs Reward. That's what this is about. --- In third-party forums we trust Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.

Gone'Postal Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:35:00 - [51] Originally by: Verus Potestas So, you aren't a macrominer, yet are terrified of a player corps, gate campers or suicide gankers? Shikari DID leave another option Ah yes the Bow down to the mass players or quit. how abou this, Everyone plays eve how they want to ? is that not allowed ? is there something in that statement that your brain just can't accept. Maybe we should just line up all the NPC corp members and shoot them ? Pod them until they quit. If a player wants to stay in an NPC corp let them. If they want to be in a player corp let them. You do not pick there fate You do not pick there choices for them and you do not dictate how they play a game They take the same risks, fly the same ships, use the same guns as everyone else yet you want to pick how. Grow up starlin.. or are you a member of the german party? Oh and I do find it funny that your posts remind me of Hipppokings, Known Issues & Workarounds - The forum to fix the issues of Eve... Godhelp us if the Devs start trying to.
Roy Batty68 Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:37:00 - [52] Originally by: Verus Potestas Risk vs Reward. That's what this is about. Well, the senator from the state of South Caraloony would like to propose a Rider on this bill. A small a 20% value tax on T2 lottery winnings. Risk, reward, and all that...
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:39:00 - [53] Originally by: Roy Batty68 So the "problem" is - NPC corps can't be wardecced. And the "solution" is - NPC corp members should pay a tax... So they'll still be "invincible", as DS put it, just with less money... Exactly. Lower risk = lower, not zero profit. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Roy Batty68 Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:42:00 - [54] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Roy Batty68 So the "problem" is - NPC corps can't be wardecced. And the "solution" is - NPC corp members should pay a tax... So they'll still be "invincible", as DS put it, just with less money... Exactly. Lower risk = lower, not zero profit. Whatever. Doesn't solve a thing. People complain about other people being safe. Apply this tax and... People will still complain about other people being safe.
Gone'Postal Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:44:00 - [55] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Roy Batty68 So the "problem" is - NPC corps can't be wardecced. And the "solution" is - NPC corp members should pay a tax... So they'll still be "invincible", as DS put it, just with less money... Exactly. Lower risk = lower, not zero profit. And T2 BPO owners have lets see.... Zero risk... Massive rewards and Massive profit. yes there ship might die, they might get podded.. But that little item in there hanger takes no risks. Known Issues & Workarounds - The forum to fix the issues of Eve... Godhelp us if the Devs start trying to.
Lasus	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:49:00 - [56] Originally by: Verus Potestas So, you aren't a macrominer, yet are terrified of a player corps, gate campers or suicide gankers? Shikari DID leave another option Where did I say I was terrified of player corps ???. As for suicide gankers and gate campers I used those to illustrate that they play without risk and get rewards. Also where did I say I would not join a player corp ??? It is not my fault that the corp I was in went away ??? Is it a common practice in these forums to ignore points a person makes that might invalidate your argument ?? Also with all due respect to dark he probably does not have a Dr. degree in psych so his opinion of paranoia means nothing. Pain n An unpleasant feeling or sensation usually caused by the good fortune of another
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:50:00 - [57] Originally by: Gone'Postal Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Roy Batty68 So the "problem" is - NPC corps can't be wardecced. And the "solution" is - NPC corp members should pay a tax... So they'll still be "invincible", as DS put it, just with less money... Exactly. Lower risk = lower, not zero profit. And T2 BPO owners have lets see.... Zero risk... Massive rewards and Massive profit. yes there ship might die, they might get podded.. But that little item in there hanger takes no risks. Um, if I buy a tech 2 BPO for 30 billion ISK, and demand decreases or it gets nerfed, I just lost all my money, basically... that's far more risk than almost anything else in EVE. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Verus Potestas Caldari The I-Win Button	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:51:00 - [58] Originally by: Lasus Originally by: Verus Potestas So, you aren't a macrominer, yet are terrified of a player corps, gate campers or suicide gankers? Shikari DID leave another option Where did I say I was terrified of player corps ???. As for suicide gankers and gate campers I used those to illustrate that they play without risk and get rewards. Also where did I say I would not join a player corp ??? Originally by: Lasus If I started my own corp I am sure I would be war decced Sorry, I inferred. --- In third-party forums we trust Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:52:00 - [59] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 03/01/2007 18:55:27 Originally by: Lasus Dark I have seen your posts on this forum and even if I dont agree I have always respected your opinion. I did not think you would ever stoop to personal attacks to try to make a point. For your information I am not a macro miner. I have been playing multiplayer games probably longer than you have. I am 61 years OLD and I always play by the rules in a MMO. I did not call you a macro miner. Can you read my post? I said that if you thought were you going to be attacked, you were either a macro miner OR UNREASONABLY PARANOID. Please read before responding with accusations of "personal attacks." Originally by: Lasus If you want to preach Risk vs Reward you should talk about suicide gankers,and gate campers. Any way very disappointed in your responce. I do not respect anyone who whines about suicide gankers and gate campers in a "risk vs reward" discussion, sorry. If you want my respect, the first thing you should do is learn to stay on topic. And the second thing you should do is try gate camping yourself before whining that gate campers have "no risk." I apologize if you thought my post was a personal attack, but it was not. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Anatolius Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:54:00 - [60] Originally by: Dark Shikari Um, if I buy a tech 2 BPO for 30 billion ISK, and demand decreases or it gets nerfed, I just lost all my money, basically... that's far more risk than almost anything else in EVE. THAT DOESN"T COUNT BCUZ U HAV THE ISK PRIONTING MASHINE LOL!!!!11111111111111111111111111 N I DO NOT I'd love to see the 'massive profits' on, say, T2 reinforced bulkheads, by the way. "If God be for us, whom can be against us?"



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