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Kellie Dusette
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.12.03 23:21:42 -
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Nauplius wrote:Quiet, both of you. Aww. This for many sweet.
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Tamiroth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
183
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Posted - 2015.12.04 18:51:05 -
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Anyanka Funk wrote:Valerie Valate wrote:Rumour has it, that if you want to bait Nauplius into action, you should consider abducting a Certain Khanid Journalist, and using her as bait.
But that's just a rumour.
Rumour. Serious. Shirley Serious ? No, that'd be dishonorable. Being a horrible Gallentean 'net tabloid reporter is not a crime. I don't kidnap innocent people.
But I don't even "want to bait him into action", he's willing enough on his own anyway.
So far, at least. |

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
559
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Posted - 2015.12.04 22:06:16 -
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Tamiroth wrote:Shirley Serious ? No, that'd be dishonorable. Being a horrible Gallentean 'net tabloid reporter is not a crime. I don't abduct innocent people. But I don't even "want to bait him into action", he's willing enough on his own anyway. So far, at least.
She is not a horrible reporter. Among other things, she reported the Khanid Bottomless Pit, a discovery that vindicated my theology on several points. Please don't slander her. |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2353
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Posted - 2015.12.04 23:04:36 -
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Nauplius wrote:Tamiroth wrote:Shirley Serious ? No, that'd be dishonorable. Being a horrible Gallentean 'net tabloid reporter is not a crime. I don't abduct innocent people. But I don't even "want to bait him into action", he's willing enough on his own anyway. So far, at least. She is not a horrible reporter. Among other things, she reported the Khanid Bottomless Pit, a discovery that vindicated my theology on several points. Please don't slander her.
You know your philosophy is in trouble when you have to non-ironically rely on Shirley Serious for support.
Yonis Ardishapur for Emperor
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
559
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Posted - 2015.12.04 23:34:37 -
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I can think of no stronger foundation for knowledge than the work of Shirley Serious. Please do not slander her. |

Alizabeth Vea
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
647
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Posted - 2015.12.05 01:12:21 -
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You know Shirley Serious is a joke, right? Gutter Press is all just a parody.
Forged in the fires of the forth Delve war, I've been to hell, and I'm back for more, so cap the gas and push back the door, turn fuel to fire, let the monster roar.
Retainer of House Sarum
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1704
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Posted - 2015.12.05 01:23:21 -
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Nauplius wrote:She is not a horrible reporter. Among other things, she reported the Khanid Bottomless Pit, a discovery that vindicated my theology on several points. Please don't slander her.
Nauplius wrote:I can think of no stronger foundation for knowledge than the work of Shirley Serious. Please do not slander her.
Nobody's slandering anyone.
It's text. It's libel. |

Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
895
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Posted - 2015.12.05 01:52:33 -
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Alizabeth Vea wrote:You know Shirley Serious is a joke, right? Gutter Press is all just a parody.
Confirmation bias.
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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Tamiroth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
185
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Posted - 2015.12.05 11:32:49 -
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Speaking on the Bottomless Pit and tossing sinners into it, there's an interesting bit of old planetside news I still remember from my childhood.
There was a certain Lord Kargash of Bomana who owned a network of mines in the system. Manned with slaves, of course. The numbers of those slaves obviously were higher than he was supposed to own as a Holder of his rank, but old Kargash was buddy-buddy with all the right people, including the Count of Bomana and the late Duke of Arniri, so nobody paid attention where all the extra slaves come from.
Then, one day, servants went to the Lord's sleeping chambers and found out that these are no more! There was a Bottomless Pit instead.
Turns out, the mansion was built over a small karst formation. Over the centuries, it slowly grew bigger and closer to the surface, until one day the entire wing of the building collapsed into it, forming a sinkhole some 100 feet in diameter and over 600 feet deep. Lord Kargash's body was never found.
And then, news came from the Republic that RSS intercepted and destroyed one of Kargash's Bestowers at an Angel deadspace facility. So that's where he was getting his workforce.
Beware of the Bottomless Pit! |

Tamiroth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
185
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Posted - 2015.12.05 18:56:07 -
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Update:
An lesson learned today: if you bring a laser ship with active tank to EM and Thermal, and the enemy brings a heavy buffered, track disrupting explosive damage dealer with rockets, the fight might be over sooner than expected.
To be continued, I suppose! |
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1707
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Posted - 2015.12.05 20:44:30 -
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Know your enemy, pilot - what does he fly, how does he like to fit them?
Plan from there. |

Tamiroth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
185
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Posted - 2015.12.05 20:53:17 -
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Arrendis wrote:Know your enemy, pilot - what does he fly, how does he like to fit them?
Plan from there. I adapted exactly to that. The error made was that I didn't dig too deep into his loss history. The Kestrel fit he used against me today was last used in July.
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Anyanka Funk
Hematology Advancement Program Sani-Sabik
338
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Posted - 2015.12.05 21:19:37 -
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Tamiroth wrote:Arrendis wrote:Know your enemy, pilot - what does he fly, how does he like to fit them?
Plan from there. I adapted exactly to that. The error made was that I didn't dig too deep into his loss history. The Kestrel fit he used against me today was last used in July. Upship him. Cruors work very well against kiters and active tank frigs. Also, you can call me for back up, I can just bring a svipul or something similar. I would like to take Nauplius's blood to the covenant just so we have some. |

Tamiroth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
185
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Posted - 2015.12.05 21:47:54 -
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Anyanka Funk wrote:Upship him. Cruors Ummm... No.
Anyanka Funk wrote:Also, you can call me for back up, I can just bring a svipul or something similar Umm... No?
Anyanka Funk wrote:I would like to take Nauplius's blood to the covenant just so we have some. Sure, do it if you want, but without my involvement in this in any way please.
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
559
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Posted - 2015.12.05 21:48:44 -
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Tamiroth wrote:Arrendis wrote:Know your enemy, pilot - what does he fly, how does he like to fit them?
Plan from there. I adapted exactly to that. The error made was that I didn't dig too deep into his loss history. The Kestrel fit he used against me today was last used in July.
The only adapting you need to do is your choice of God. Turn to the Red God and be victorious. |

Deitra Vess
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
802
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Posted - 2015.12.05 21:53:34 -
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Or just.... You know, upship to a cruor or get a friend with links and use a slicer. That should work alright... |

Tamiroth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
185
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Posted - 2015.12.05 22:18:08 -
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Nauplius wrote:The only adapting you need to do is your choice of God. Turn to the Red God How about... no?
Deitra Vess wrote:Or just.... You know, upship to a cruor Thank you for the advice, Deitra, but I'm not going to fly filthy Blood Raider hulls, never ever, regardless of whatever advantage they provide. I've heard that the Raiders sacrifice prisoners and slaves to "sanctify", or, rather, further desecrate their war machines, so that blood paint is there for a good reason... No. :(
Deitra Vess wrote:or get a friend with links and use a slicer. That should work alright... I'd like to face him on equal terms in honourable combat, of course. But because our skills are obviously not so equal - a magister's degree in history of the Second Ardishapur Period and colony management versus decades of service in the Khanid Navy - I might as well ultimately resort to something along those lines.
But first, I'd like to make sure that continuing fighting him 1v1 on his terms is absolutely futile.
Also, who knows, maybe he'll repent and see the horror of his murderous and heretical ways?
Not that it'll help all the people he slaughtered, anyway. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1707
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Posted - 2015.12.05 22:24:41 -
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Tamiroth wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:or get a friend with links and use a slicer. That should work alright... I'd like to face him on equal terms in honourable combat, of course.
How do you know he doesn't have someone running links?
Quote: But first, I'd like to make sure that continuing fighting him 1v1 on his terms is absolutely futile.
A fair fight is always futile. |

Deitra Vess
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
803
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Posted - 2015.12.05 22:30:29 -
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Tamiroth wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Or just.... You know, upship to a cruor Thank you for the advice, Deitra, but I'm not going to fly filthy Blood Raider hulls, never ever, regardless of whatever advantage they provide. I've heard that the Raiders sacrifice prisoners and slaves to "sanctify", or, rather, further desecrate their war machines, so that blood paint is there for a good reason... No. :( A tool isn't what defines intent, the person behind it does. What do I mean by that? If I'm flying in an armor based cruiser or battleahip fleet for the Matari Militia, I would be a fool to not use guardian logistics because they're " slaver ships."
Tamiroth wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:or get a friend with links and use a slicer. That should work alright... I'd like to face him on equal terms in honourable combat, of course. But because our skills are obviously not so equal - a magister's degree in history of the Second Ardishapur Period and colony management versus decades of service in the Khanid Navy - I might as well ultimately resort to something along those lines. But first, I'd like to make sure that continuing fighting him 1v1 on his terms is absolutely futile. Also, who knows, maybe he'll repent and see the horror of his murderous and heretical ways? Not that it'll help all the people he slaughtered, anyway. You aren't that naive to think he's returning the same sentiment are you? Don't be silly. He more than likely has links, a head full of inplants and boosters as his "honor."
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
803
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Posted - 2015.12.05 22:36:21 -
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Also, he won't repent for seeing "honorable fighting." One person's honorable fight is another person's foolish fight. Throwing your crew members into fights you most likely will lose will only prove his red god's "might" even further. |
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Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
340
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Posted - 2015.12.05 23:44:48 -
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Only idiots fight fair. |

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1794
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Posted - 2015.12.06 00:13:53 -
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Karmilla Strife wrote:Only idiots fight fair.
Respectfully, while, as a matter of principle, I don't duel, it's not always an empty gesture.
The point here isn't to kill Nauplius. Killing him temporarily barely inconveniences him; killing him permanently is not an achievable goal for any of us. However, there may be victories to be won outside of pure economic damage.
Approaching an honor duel honorably is not about anything ephemeral; it's about making the victory count. The challenger here is a relative unknown, and lacks Nauplius' experience. Considering their relative strength, she doesn't lose much for a loss relative to what he stands to lose if he fails. It's about the only sort of victory that might even get Nauplius to reexamine his beliefs, especially if she ever starts beating him consistently. Really, she gains a little credit even if she never wins for just being tenacious, so long as she keeps it up. But it has to be clean, or the whole point of the thing is lost.
For my own part, I'll never duel him. I don't have anything to prove in such a way. Tamiroth does, though, and multiple ways to prove it.
Being careful about how crew are selected might be wise, though. Neither pilot's life is at stake, but other people's are. |

Deitra Vess
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
805
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Posted - 2015.12.06 00:42:50 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote: Respectfully, while, as a matter of principle, I don't duel, I don't think it's always an empty gesture.
The point here isn't to kill Nauplius. Killing him temporarily barely inconveniences him; killing him permanently is not an achievable goal for any of us. However, there may be victories to be won outside of pure economic damage.
Approaching an honor duel honorably is not about anything ephemeral; it's about making the victory count. The challenger here is a relative unknown, and lacks Nauplius' experience. Considering their relative strength, she doesn't lose much for a loss relative to what he stands to lose if he fails. It's about the only sort of victory that might even get Nauplius to reexamine his beliefs, especially if she ever starts beating him consistently. Really, she gains a little credit even if she never wins for just being tenacious, so long as she keeps it up. But it has to be clean, or the whole point of the thing is lost.
For my own part, I'll never duel him. I don't have anything to prove in such a way. Tamiroth does, though, and multiple ways to prove it.
Being careful about how crew are selected might be wise, though. Neither pilot's life is at stake, but other people's are.
I know what your saying but how many times have we bashed his towers and he blamed it on his little croustation god or whatever (mollusk the deciever or malok.... Whatever, I don't pretend to know your religion, Amarr). Even if she managed an honorable victory it would be fluffed off as "Mullick the deceiver helped her in trying to beat the all mighty red god..... Bwahahaha." If your going to fight him, stoop to his level. He won't be phased by anything less. Make the loss as personal as possible. After all he's done it should be. |

Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
610
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Posted - 2015.12.06 00:59:08 -
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Cpt. Tamiroth Alet Azaph has already won over the heretic called Nauplius in innumerable ways:
He placed himself in service to Lies, Ugliness and Evil - all of them being ultimately nothing: mere deficiencies, not existing for themselves but only in comparison to what could be, what is lacked, rather being the lack of something than being something at all.
She placed herself in service to Truth, Beauty and Goodness eternal - the bountiful fullness of creation and existence, her still continuing struggle against him being only a small part of this.
A simple victory in a battle of ships means little in comparison and this is truely not what this struggle is about: It's an example of standing up for what is good and right, to serve faithfully. That's not to say we all should vow the same: Rather we should all find inspiration in this example to confront the darkness we can make a stand against: To burn and live, to fear not, to be light. To spread the light throughout creation. |

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
559
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Posted - 2015.12.06 02:27:50 -
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Deitra Vess wrote: You aren't that naive to think he's returning the same sentiment are you? Don't be silly. He more than likely has links, a head full of inplants and boosters as his "honor."
No. I have only the Red God.
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1796
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Posted - 2015.12.06 02:34:54 -
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Nauplius wrote:Deitra Vess wrote: You aren't that naive to think he's returning the same sentiment are you? Don't be silly. He more than likely has links, a head full of inplants and boosters as his "honor."
No. I have only the Red God.
See, I actually believe Nauplius on this. This is partly a trial of his faith. It's one sort of contest you're really ill-advised to cheat at, if you are yourself a believer and not just someone manipulating them.
There's a lot of stuff Nauplius does that doesn't make any sense without him being a true believer, so....
Now, what's quite possible is that if he loses he'll attribute it to foul play, whether it really was or not, so it's probably wise to avoid even the appearance of trickery. |

Maria Daphiti
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
81
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Posted - 2015.12.06 03:17:12 -
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Nauplius wrote:Deitra Vess wrote: You aren't that naive to think he's returning the same sentiment are you? Don't be silly. He more than likely has links, a head full of inplants and boosters as his "honor."
No. I have only the Red God.
*doubtfully* Pinkie swear no Implants? |

Alizabeth Vea
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
648
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Posted - 2015.12.06 03:59:10 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Also, the "faith" issue cuts both ways, here. Neither is going to want to prove their own faith weak by resorting to honorless tactics. If your faith is so weak you cannot bring along links and a neutral Falcon pilot, something is wrong.
Forged in the fires of the forth Delve war, I've been to hell, and I'm back for more, so cap the gas and push back the door, turn fuel to fire, let the monster roar.
Retainer of House Sarum
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1796
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Posted - 2015.12.06 04:21:59 -
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Alizabeth Vea wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote:Also, the "faith" issue cuts both ways, here. Neither is going to want to prove their own faith weak by resorting to honorless tactics. If your faith is so weak you cannot bring along links and a neutral Falcon pilot, something is wrong.
Making your own luck in such a way doesn't seem like much of an act of faith, respectfully, Ms. Vea.
Duels should be honored. Like promises.
It's why I never fight them. |

Alizabeth Vea
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
648
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Posted - 2015.12.06 06:08:18 -
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I trust in God to keep the planets in orbit and the stars burning. The tactical situation is mine to worry about.
Forged in the fires of the forth Delve war, I've been to hell, and I'm back for more, so cap the gas and push back the door, turn fuel to fire, let the monster roar.
Retainer of House Sarum
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