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SATAN BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.01.06 19:47:00 - [61] Dont know how to say this without sounding like a *****, so I will just say it. A long time ago in a Syndicate region near you little pirate coalition ran across the like of UDIE. After several days of dying the pirate coalition managed to convince one certain member of UDIE that it would be in our best interest to work together with PC instead of killing them. Reluctantly other members agreed and for a week or so we actualy ran some opps together. Some of which were a total success, and some of which showed us just how poor the pilot quality in PC was. After the initial romance was over the sane members of UDIE decided that enough was enough and that the PC was nothing more than a glorified alliance of mainly carebears whom we often cought mining/hunting, pretending to be pirates. Now dont get me wrong, there were a few good people that managed to tackle targets, and actualy kill stuff. But for the most part watching them work was like watching a pack of monkeys try to screw in a light bulb. We quickly rethought our stance on being associated with such incompetence and decided then and there that if it was not wearing the UDIE ticker it is not flying with us. Now fast forward several years later, and I see that PC is just now realizing that the majority of its members are nothing more than dead weight, which is probably true for 99% of them. Hopefully the new version of PC will realize that its quality over quantity any day of the week.
Fedaykinn Caldari MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.06 19:58:00 - [62] I agree with you that was the case. Which is why we only wanted actual pirates in the alliance. And not nappers and carebearers. This is why the tax whittled out the weak and non communitive corps and only the strong corps who do piracy, who do want to work togeather were left. All the pilots we ahve now are pirates at heart and are damn good pilots
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.06 20:41:00 - [63] why was this thread created? actually why is it not in the soap opera forums Pirate Coalition posts are such an eyesore since every one and their mama just has to say something Remember that muffin factory thread? it was about some guys and misinformation that resulted in becoming a bucnh of Blah blah PC this and PC that (which also resulted in me getting harassed by some guys but thats another story). Move this to Corporation and Alliance Discussion and let it sink below all the Bob expose posts Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
ScreamingLord Sutch Hand in Mouth	Posted - 2007.01.06 20:42:00 - [64] Originally by: Fedaykinn Everoyne cheack Pirate Coaltion Killboard To see an accurate reading of our kills and not Langs unfair figure of our kills based on the last 4 days since the new year. Some people are still coming off vacation and all sorts. I cant stand people like Lang who make a completley unfair figure thats meant to represent us 7 days in and still pretty unimpressive tbh. 7 kills today. 4 haulers, 2 t1 frigs and a caracal. And todays a weekend. Maybe you should take the kb link out
Fedaykinn Caldari MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.06 20:53:00 - [65] lol omg mate were not a 0.0 alliance that takes out capital ships on a daily basis. Were pirates and tbh we just want money and kills and thats it tbh no matter how big or small. -_-
Waxau Liberty Rogues	Posted - 2007.01.06 20:53:00 - [66] Well imho, i think PC have said all the should and need to say. They claim their alive, and thats all that matters. What we have here are ex-members taking their dislike to public levels, and discrediting PC through their anger. I could discredit Lanfear's bane (played along side you with an alt spy once...sneakysneaky ;) ) but im not going to. Its not my place. Same as its not someone elses place to say when an alliance is dead or not when theyre not in it. I will say personally, that without voice communication, pvp corps fall apart, let alone alliances. I think personally PC have done the right thing to strip their inactive/inactive/disfunctional pirate corps to make them overall more effective. I believe its the right thing to do, and takes both strength, decisiveness, and guts. So hats off to you guys. But im not going to say anymore. Go get em PC! RAWWWWWWWWWWR!
Lanfear's Bane Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.01.07 01:00:00 - [67] Originally by: Waxau I could discredit Lanfear's bane (played along side you with an alt spy once...sneakysneaky ;) ) but im not going to. Its not my place. Same as its not someone elses place to say when an alliance is dead or not when theyre not in it. Now that does interest me, feel free to drop me an EVEmail anytime you wish, I am interested to know exactly what you mean by 'discredit'. Originally by: Fedaykinn And Lang how dare you say weve only managed 27 kills in the past 4 days. We have had 63 kills in 2 days (29-30 december) If you re-read the original post I said 'Four days into the New Year' Originally by: Tub0rg Is this a buhuuu i feel left out from lanfear? Who gives if lanfear and black fleet thinks that PC is dead or not? I could have stayed up there and moved to MAFIA but I was pretty disappointed by the whole sordid affair, so I moved back home. But then again we never got on brilliantly, that was the sort of reply I was expecting from you. At least tiller composed a measured reply that wasn't just a troll. A personal attack does nothing for what I consider fast dropping reputation of the remaining corporations. You guys are defending your decisions very poorly. (And TBH I don't even remember you being around at the time of the move or even shortly thereafter...) Over 400 pirates left PC - those sort of numbers speak for themselves no matter what the few remaining pilots try and tell the rest of the EVE community. If you want a man that seems to know what he is doing and IMO shows a genuine interest in the wellbing and future of PC, talk to Dr Slice. Rather than getting all excited and trying to bluff his way around the near complete alliance collapse he is intested in learning from the CEO's mistakes and building a strong alliance. Hats off to him. Lanfear's Bane. - - - - - - - - - - - Got Killboard?
Waxau Liberty Rogues	Posted - 2007.01.07 01:24:00 - [68] Nothing devious, just a little tad of old chatlogs etc. But a magician never reveals his secrets....poof
vile56 Nubs. Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.07 01:28:00 - [69] your not a magician, so reveal secrets
Scoundrelus The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.01.07 06:19:00 - [70] Pirate Coalition sucks massive amounts of bawls and Tiller is a crappy PvPer. The spamming of the alliance mail was hilarious, and those who scream "immaturity" scream all you want because I bet we have more fun playing EVE then you do. The only good think about PC was the fact that we had a killboard. Our killboard sucks at the moment.
Dana Barrett Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2007.01.07 07:19:00 - [71] Originally by: Scoundrelus Pirate Coalition sucks massive amounts of bawls and Tiller is a crappy PvPer. The spamming of the alliance mail was hilarious, and those who scream "immaturity" scream all you want because I bet we have more fun playing EVE then you do. The only good think about PC was the fact that we had a killboard. Our killboard sucks at the moment. The spamming of alliance mail was dumb. Anybody who does that or finds that amusing needs to.....I don't even know, shoot themselves or something. And if you're having so much fun, then I expect to see you in BKFT for more than a month, which apparently is a struggle for you
Kittsa Twilight Gallente	Posted - 2007.01.07 08:37:00 - [72] After thinking and reading this is what I think as a non-pirate withan unhealthy interests in the operations of pirates 1. Trimming away the fat when done correctly will always improve the quality of the members 2. If anything i see this as PC showing belly up but not as a sign of dieing but of feigning such death. With talk of such event. Let those who think Pirate Coalition is dead think that. Then they will let thier guard down...and you can imagine the rest.
tiller MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.07 09:42:00 - [73] Edited by: tiller on 07/01/2007 09:39:30 Originally by: Scoundrelus Pirate Coalition sucks massive amounts of bawls and Tiller is a crappy PvPer. nice addition to thread, this is one of the reasons I'm glad your not in my alliance channel tbh, I don't give a **** what anyone thinks of PC, it's the alliance I play in and as long as the majority of eve are not in it then I'm happy as we have plenty to shoot.
The Yzzerman Caldari Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2007.01.07 10:52:00 - [74] JOIN us instead:meep
Mihae Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.07 11:58:00 - [75] Edited by: Mihae on 07/01/2007 12:00:53 Edited by: Mihae on 07/01/2007 11:56:52 Originally by: Karlemgne Originally by: Intigo Edited by: Intigo on 05/01/2007 16:13:24 The majority of PAYUS corps (atleast the ones I encountered in Genesis and nearby) were just free-riders and nothing special (MAFIA obviously not included). It was bound to happen eventually, they let in too many scrubs. PAYUS was more of a "yay, free kill!" than a "onoes, other piewats in Local!" experience. Free riders? What? The use of the PAYUS name was not worth the 100 million isk enterance fee. No help was ever given (with the exception of Skywalker's dread once) during our many alliance wars. We faught the brunt of the war agains IAC in the Sotrenzur area, and as we were camped in station for hours, none of the 50 to 70 people in alliance chat would EVEN RESPOND to our repeated requests for help. The very least our alliance could of done was tell us "no." We never even got that. -Karl Edit: I never EVER checked alliance chat or alliance mail because there where nothing worth my attention. It's a Kitty ffs!
Mihae Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.07 12:03:00 - [76] Edited by: Mihae on 07/01/2007 11:59:37 Originally by: Scoundrelus The spamming of the alliance mail was hilarious, and those who scream "immaturity" scream all you want because I bet we have more fun playing EVE then you do. Spamming Alliance mails are about the dumbest thing one can do tbh... We aren't talking about immaturity either, just sheer dumbness. It's a Kitty ffs!
Karlemgne The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.01.07 16:38:00 - [77] Originally by: Fedaykinn I agree with you that was the case. Which is why we only wanted actual pirates in the alliance. And not nappers and carebearers. This is why the tax whittled out the weak and non communitive corps and only the strong corps who do piracy, who do want to work togeather were left. All the pilots we ahve now are pirates at heart and are damn good pilots Except a whole lot of very good pirate corps left, and Pirate Coalition is now a shell of its former self. So good job, you got rid of the "carebears" as real as the good pirate corps. Congrats. -K
Karlemgne The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.01.07 16:58:00 - [78] Originally by: Waxau I will say personally, that without voice communication, pvp corps fall apart, let alone alliances. Having had been in Pirate Coalition I would like to say the following. During my time in Pirate Coalition I rarely ever flew with members from my alliance. They never seemed to want to help, or fly with other corps in the alliance... and we aren't talking a select few corps of "carebears." The few times I did fly with members of my alliance, we all were on a vent server. Either ours, or theirs. Every single time I ever flew with PC pilots, they were on vent. 90% of the corps in that alliance had a vent or a ts server. I'm not sure where this "lack" of TS excuse for the old PCs failings came from. At the time of Black Fleet and Red Navy Factions' departure from PC, alliance leadership was trying to get the CEOs of the alliance corps to meet on TS servers. Perhaps, this lack of TS I keep hearing about is a reference to this. In all fairness, I must say, the call for the CEOs to come on TS came AFTER everyone was ordered to move to MAFIA's location, or start ponying up 100 million isk a month for the use of the PAYUS tag. Meaning, I think, that those of us who didn't run to TS when ordered, already knew we were on the way out. The funniest thing of all is that the alliance leaders (Skywalker) at the time only had a dial up connection, and couldn't use voice communication. Ironic in that he cites other CEOs' reluctance to "go on TS" as a percipitating cause of the decline of the old PC. Lastly, and I'll most likely be done with the thread, I want to wish PC luck. I posted rather harsh critisims of PC and the leadership here, and I hope they don't take offense. All in all this was my response to deep felt solidarity conjured by Lanfear's post, and a great iritation at Tiller insulting my corp and my corp mate, slandering us even. It's all water under the bridge. PC then and now has some great pilots, some caring people, and will most likely prosper in the future--hopefully with the aid of the leasons learned over the past few months. -Karlemgne Black Fleet
Karlemgne The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.01.07 17:03:00 - [79] Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 07/01/2007 10:04:11 Originally by: Scoundrelus Pirate Coalition sucks massive amounts of bawls and Tiller is a crappy PvPer. The spamming of the alliance mail was hilarious, and those who scream "immaturity" scream all you want because I bet we have more fun playing EVE then you do. The only good think about PC was the fact that we had a killboard. Our killboard sucks at the moment. Nice addition to thread, this is one of the reasons I'm glad you and your corp are not in my alliance channel. tbh, I don't give a **** what anyone thinks of PC, it's the alliance I play in and as long as the majority of eve are not in it then I'm happy as we have plenty to shoot. edit: I am a crappy pvp'er btw, your right about that part...couldn't care less though, I'm just in eve to shoot things and have fun One more parting jab here. Why are you glad we aren't in your alliance channel? You just ignored us when we were in the alliance. Here is a reenactment: Black Fleet (Red Navy): Hey guys, we are being camped in by about 20 war targets in Sotrenzur, anyone available to lend a hand? Alliance Channel (with 70 people): silence for 20 minutes Black Fleet: Hey, anyone there? Could we get some kind of response? Alliance Channel: Hey, anyone want to buy a covert ops cloak?
tiller MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.07 17:38:00 - [80] Edited by: tiller on 07/01/2007 18:17:41 Originally by: Karlemgne Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 07/01/2007 10:04:11 Originally by: Scoundrelus Pirate Coalition sucks massive amounts of bawls and Tiller is a crappy PvPer. The spamming of the alliance mail was hilarious, and those who scream "immaturity" scream all you want because I bet we have more fun playing EVE then you do. The only good think about PC was the fact that we had a killboard. Our killboard sucks at the moment. Nice addition to thread, this is one of the reasons I'm glad you and your corp are not in my alliance channel. tbh, I don't give a **** what anyone thinks of PC, it's the alliance I play in and as long as the majority of eve are not in it then I'm happy as we have plenty to shoot. edit: I am a crappy pvp'er btw, your right about that part...couldn't care less though, I'm just in eve to shoot things and have fun One more parting jab here. Why are you glad we aren't in your alliance channel? You just ignored us when we were in the alliance. Here is a reenactment: Black Fleet (Red Navy): Hey guys, we are being camped in by about 20 war targets in Sotrenzur, anyone available to lend a hand? Alliance Channel (with 70 people): silence for 20 minutes Black Fleet: Hey, anyone there? Could we get some kind of response? Alliance Channel: Hey, anyone want to buy a covert ops cloak? Maybe because there really is no such thing as being 'camped' in a station. Use a insta undock Use a shuttle Log off and play a hr later Etc Etc Etc Etc I certainly would not come running 20j through low sec to 'help' a few alliance guys undock...maybe if you had a couple of dreads stuck in siege mode and scrambled then yes. If you were truly stuck in a station then it's a tactical mistake on your part...not my problem. You are complaining about the very thing Skywalker was trying to fix.. people to spread out to help each other. Of course no-one would come running, no-one is near you. btw, are you aggreeing with what Scoundrelus just said, do him and john spam your corp with 400 mails each time they get angry ?... if not why not, it's just as annoying to spam alliance chat and mail as corp. In fact alliance worse as more people have to put up with the ****. Quote 'The spamming of the alliance mail was hilarious' ... yeah real funny :\, is that your official corp policy ?
Scoundrelus The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.01.07 19:16:00 - [81] Originally by: Dana Barrett Originally by: Scoundrelus Pirate Coalition sucks massive amounts of bawls and Tiller is a crappy PvPer. The spamming of the alliance mail was hilarious, and those who scream "immaturity" scream all you want because I bet we have more fun playing EVE then you do. The only good think about PC was the fact that we had a killboard. Our killboard sucks at the moment. The spamming of alliance mail was dumb. Anybody who does that or finds that amusing needs to.....I don't even know, shoot themselves or something. And if you're having so much fun, then I expect to see you in BKFT for more than a month, which apparently is a struggle for you You think the spamming of alliance mail is dumb? How about commiting suicide over a game. Sounds even dumber but since its your suggestion I hereby dub you EVEs Offical Emo (EOE for short). Also I was in BKFT for 3 months before I left for FZN... shows you can really read dates. BKFT laughs at you and your feeble efforts. All of you other alliance mail whiners can go cry some more while we laugh at you. Better yet! War dec us!
Scoundrelus The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.01.07 19:20:00 - [82] Originally by: tiller Quote 'The spamming of the alliance mail was hilarious' ... yeah real funny :\, is that your official corp policy ? Our corps policy is freedom. True freedom, the ability to do what you want and be what you want without having to worry about what the rest of the universe thinks of you. Only two rules, don't dishonor duels, dont dishonor ransoms. Bad for business.
tiller MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.07 19:41:00 - [83] Edited by: tiller on 07/01/2007 19:38:34 Originally by: Scoundrelus Originally by: tiller Quote 'The spamming of the alliance mail was hilarious' ... yeah real funny :\, is that your official corp policy ? Our corps policy is freedom. True freedom, the ability to do what you want and be what you want without having to worry about what the rest of the universe thinks of you. Only two rules, don't dishonor duels, dont dishonor ransoms. Bad for business. I dont play by many rules either, however I have common courtesy for people i'm playing the game with, those people in my alliance. Spamming alliance mail with the sole purpose of annoying everyone is not my kind of game... Of course, you can play how you wish... luckily for me, the way you play doesn't mean **** to me anymore as you left.
John Dean The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.01.07 19:47:00 - [84] Edited by: John Dean on 07/01/2007 19:56:17 Edited by: John Dean on 07/01/2007 19:46:13 Edited by: John Dean on 07/01/2007 19:44:50 Originally by: Dana Barrett Another problem was alliance mails were so frequent and so non-important that I never even checked them after a week of crap. One dude even had a ridiculous 400-something mails because he was fed up with his corp or the alliance or something and spammed for a day straight. Other than that I really have nothing else to say about the old PC. Some excellent corps, some terrible ones. I was fed up with your stupid alliance and the fact that you b!tches refused to help us during the IAC war on the numerous times that we asked you to.... with the exception of skywalker in his dread for one day.... And then there was the restructuring of the alliance to for a stupid ass 'core group'..... and having to pay rediculous sums of money if not part of said 'group'.... Not to mention that because of that f@g preatorian-something or another taking a joke out of context and then flaming me in alliance chat i p!ssed off a bunch more of you girls due to taking his side on sh!t you had no business being in. So in conclusion.... Mother-Fcking die Pirate Coalition.... i hope your funeral is short!!! (sorry for all the edits.... had to reword due to filters to get my point across) ---------------------------------------------- THE BLACK FLEET* Killing the galaxy one ship at a time.
John Dean The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.01.07 19:47:00 - [85] at least i got an honorable recognition!!!!! ---------------------------------------------- THE BLACK FLEET Killing the galaxy one ship at a time.
tiller MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.07 19:51:00 - [86] Originally by: John Dean Edited by: John Dean on 07/01/2007 19:46:13 Edited by: John Dean on 07/01/2007 19:44:50 Originally by: Dana Barrett Another problem was alliance mails were so frequent and so non-important that I never even checked them after a week of crap. One dude even had a ridiculous 400-something mails because he was fed up with his corp or the alliance or something and spammed for a day straight. Other than that I really have nothing else to say about the old PC. Some excellent corps, some terrible ones. I was fed up with your stupid alliance and the fact that you b!tches refused to help us during the IAC war on the numerous times that we asked you to.... with the exception of skywalker in his dread for one day.... And then there was the restructuring of the alliance to for a stupid ass 'core group'..... and having to pay rediculous sums of money if not part of said 'group'.... Not to mention that because of that** preatorian-something or another taking a joke out of context and then flaming me in alliance chat i *ed off a bunch more of you girls due to taking his side on sht you had no business being in. So in conclusion.... Mother-F*cking die Pirate Coalition.... i hope your funeral is short!!! I rest my case...
Samirol Turbulent Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.07 19:52:00 - [87] "it's not dead...it's just sleeping!" Tier 2 BS Lotto Contact mach'ett3 for all your sig needs
tiller MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.07 19:56:00 - [88] Originally by: Samirol "it's not dead...it's just sleeping!" Sadly the underlying problem is piracy is a dying art... thank CCP for that. I'm sure it's in deline all over eve. I've spoken to other corps and alot are suffering dwindling memberships.. Maybe everyone is joining BOB
John Dean The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.01.07 20:01:00 - [89] Originally by: tiller Originally by: John Dean Edited by: John Dean on 07/01/2007 19:46:13 Edited by: John Dean on 07/01/2007 19:44:50 Originally by: Dana Barrett Another problem was alliance mails were so frequent and so non-important that I never even checked them after a week of crap. One dude even had a ridiculous 400-something mails because he was fed up with his corp or the alliance or something and spammed for a day straight. Other than that I really have nothing else to say about the old PC. Some excellent corps, some terrible ones. I was fed up with your stupid alliance and the fact that you b!tches refused to help us during the IAC war on the numerous times that we asked you to.... with the exception of skywalker in his dread for one day.... And then there was the restructuring of the alliance to for a stupid ass 'core group'..... and having to pay rediculous sums of money if not part of said 'group'.... Not to mention that because of that** preatorian-something or another taking a joke out of context and then flaming me in alliance chat i *ed off a bunch more of you girls due to taking his side on sht you had no business being in. So in conclusion.... Mother-Fcking die Pirate Coalition.... i hope your funeral is short!!! I rest my case... you rest your case on being g@y? ---------------------------------------------- THE BLACK FLEET* Killing the galaxy one ship at a time.
tiller MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.07 20:04:00 - [90] Originally by: John Dean Originally by: tiller Originally by: John Dean Edited by: John Dean on 07/01/2007 19:46:13 Edited by: John Dean on 07/01/2007 19:44:50 Originally by: Dana Barrett Another problem was alliance mails were so frequent and so non-important that I never even checked them after a week of crap. One dude even had a ridiculous 400-something mails because he was fed up with his corp or the alliance or something and spammed for a day straight. Other than that I really have nothing else to say about the old PC. Some excellent corps, some terrible ones. I was fed up with your stupid alliance and the fact that you b!tches refused to help us during the IAC war on the numerous times that we asked you to.... with the exception of skywalker in his dread for one day.... And then there was the restructuring of the alliance to for a stupid ass 'core group'..... and having to pay rediculous sums of money if not part of said 'group'.... Not to mention that because of that** preatorian-something or another taking a joke out of context and then flaming me in alliance chat i *ed off a bunch more of you girls due to taking his side on sht you had no business being in. So in conclusion.... Mother-F*cking die Pirate Coalition.... i hope your funeral is short!!! I rest my case... you rest your case on being g@y? Nice come back Please, remember the forums are worse than alliance mail.. thousands can read them. I roleplay a ebil pirate here, nothing more. Just random ranting and smacking makes you look nothing other than a fool... IMHO

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