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Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:00:00 - [31] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Originally by: Kryztal Who cares about ISS ? BoB have their own threads, go away. Alliaanna hahahahaha BoB has been mentioned 24 times so far in this thread :P
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:01:00 - [32] Originally by: Potty I Believe that ISS are BoB alts/buddies/puppets ect ect. Now if BoB wanted to attack D2 or ever wanted they would require secure points they can base their operations from. Heading from empire to d2 space would be a ball ache so it makes since to control a "neut" alliance that has stations located close to d2 space where you can freely move supplies and ships to. Potty, you must be new to Thundercats. Thundercats have skirmished with ISS in EC-P8R in the past .. your colleagues should be able to tell you how 733T they were. ISS had (I left a few months ago) BOB at -10 and engaged them any time the entered an ISS system .. not that it happened very often. During BOB's last serious road trip North they based in the NPC stations in Pure Blind, X-7OMU especially - dock and check, they probably still have offices there. Not the two ISS Admin stations neither of whom BOB or any of its altcorps have offices at. During those few weeks ISS and BOB skirmished daily ... ISS lost approximately 40 BS fighting them. Originally by: Potty (DonÆt forget d2 have already had a go at iss for apparently reporting d2 movement to BoB. Not sure if its true or not but was the reason given for the toe to toe a few months ago.) Axiom Empire were the lucky recipients of the ISS pilots reporting a D2 and allies gatecamp. At the time D2 were campin with AAA .. D2 didn't shoot ISS but AAA sure as hell did, hence ISS pilots treating any D2 gatecamp as bloody dangerous. It did not result in all out combat .. a few raids by bored D2 pilots, but nothing worth the effort. Originally by: Potty Who will win no idea, but it will sure be fun. I'll be amazed if there is even a battle. The ISS business model probably doesn't include fighting a major power in the North while their Navy is practically camped in during a war in the South. D2 could have saved themselves the effort of a forum post by just saying GEEEEV. Myn
Princess Minnie	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:03:00 - [33] Originally by: ollobrains blah blah blah ... i cant see BOB siding in an attack on ISS .... blah blah blah OMG, you really arent the brightest cookie on the block are you? Just so i can add some clarity to your clearly clouded and delusional brain, the OP was posing the question of BoB siding with ISS, not attacking them .... duh! Perhaps you should stick to just worrying about empire, these thoughts of 0.0 seem to confuse you. I never thought i would see the day that a Butter Dog post wasnt the most senseless poster in a thread.
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:21:00 - [34] Originally by: Princess Minnie Originally by: ollobrains blah blah blah ... i cant see BOB siding in an attack on ISS .... blah blah blah OMG, you really arent the brightest cookie on the block are you? Just so i can add some clarity to your clearly clouded and delusional brain, the OP was posing the question of BoB siding with ISS, not attacking them .... duh! Perhaps you should stick to just worrying about empire, these thoughts of 0.0 seem to confuse you. I never thought i would see the day that a Butter Dog post wasnt the most senseless poster in a thread. Maybe u should grow some stones and show ur corp ticker before u slander other ppl?
Edoo The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:23:00 - [35] Originally by: Julien Derida ChFvre 4tw. omg a fellow goat lover. You must be my soul mate.
Sebroth Coordination Incorporated	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:36:00 - [36] If ISS do losing everything it will only prove that there is no place for industrial alliances in 0.0 in the long run, even if they do try to be neutral. True neutrality is impossible since someone will pick on you and when that has happen the ball is on the moveà Now I donÆt think ISS will roll over, itÆs a spread out alliance with lots of friends and they do have big part of its industry based in empire iirc. I dunno why people believe that BOB would have any problems going out on a new war. The fact is that most alliances are able to fight and still keep their industry working for full as long as they are mostly fighting an offensive war. The only different is that some of surplus is going in to the war instead of the open market. Just take a look at the southeast corner of the map. LV have been in a constant war for a damn long time putting/loosing 100s of billions in POSs/ships to that war and still been able to build outposts and a big and nice capital fleet including one titan. Or look at RED that have been fighting the same war but more often then not been doing so in their own home systems and their ôindustryö have still done a hell of a good job. ItÆs only the will to fight that is important not how big your industrial side is, thatÆs why industrial alliances so easily get overrun by smaller PvP oriented entities. Wars are won by being able to field a superior firepower and if you donÆt have the will to fight you donÆt have the firepower. Every single alliance in this game that has taken a break from wars has come close to or has been extinct. Big alliances canÆt afford long periods of peace since they then will grow fat and slow. Yes, they might get lots of nice ships ect but that something even a small dedicated corp can manage that. (I know a small ~30man corp able to field a bigger capital fleet them lots of the alliances out in 0.0.) D2 know this and they also know that they have grown fat and that they canÆt afford to grown a single inch more. The problem is the NAP haven they have up in the north so the only target they actually could chose is ISS. Fighting a big alliance across the map is not an option for a fat and slow alliance; they need to trim some of the fat off first. ----- Never knock on Death's door; ring the doorbell and run (he hates that)
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:36:00 - [37] Well that ruins it for me. I thought ISS was the International Space Station. I was hoping to get some shots off on the space shuttle. Could you imagine the news on ABC. New NPC NPC Market
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:43:00 - [38] Originally by: Harisdrop Well that ruins it for me. I thought ISS was the International Space Station. I was hoping to get some shots off on the space shuttle. Could you imagine the news on ABC. /Rings up the Sun. "Terrorist organisation by the name of D2 has just announced a declaration of war on the International Space Station. Run for the hills... urrr moons ? My astronaught friends." Do you think The Sun would buy it lol ? Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:50:00 - [39] I think it's a little early to be talking about the fall of ISS. Are D2 actually laying siege to EC- or any other outpost of there's or just roaming? I think as was asid before they are testing the water's but it's just that, my opinion
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:57:00 - [40] Whatever happens, I'm sure DS will get his money back.

solarwinds ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:59:00 - [41] I don't really think BoB care overly much about ISS aside from the fact that Catch is a strategically important location for D2 to stage an assault against their new space, much as D2 only care about BoB staging an assault out of one of the Pure Blind outposts. If D2 brings the fight to the south (where all the fighting is, anyways), I really don't think BoB will engage them there. Makes more sense for them to sneak up north and rap3 and pilage.
Butter Dog Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated	Posted - 2007.01.05 15:03:00 - [42] Originally by: solarwinds ... as D2 only care about BoB staging an assault out of one of the Pure Blind outposts. BoB could base out of the NPC stations in Pure Blind. D2 could base out of the NPC station in Stain or Fountain. ----------
Raven Karrde Bre-X Heavy Industries	Posted - 2007.01.05 15:07:00 - [43] I'm just wondering how long till Count looks at the nice 100+ Bil collected so far in the ISS IPO and says, thanx, was fun, see ya around. ROMEO's price was lower....
Algey ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.05 15:12:00 - [44] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: solarwinds ... as D2 only care about BoB staging an assault out of one of the Pure Blind outposts. BoB could base out of the NPC stations in Pure Blind. D2 could base out of the NPC station in Stain or Fountain. Shhh. Next you'll be mentioning that the new charter means that people staging out of one of our outposts would lose their docking rights.
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.01.05 15:13:00 - [45] Originally by: Algey Originally by: Karunel Personally, I've always thought ISS is one of the coolest things in the game, and I always talk about them when I want to drag someone into the game. That said, it's quite obvious that they lost the north when they suddenly decided they wanted their e-peen to grow, as the most likely result as we can see is it'll end up cut. When has ISS ever had an Epeen? We're a bunch of industrialists You better go look at Lilan Kahn's posts a little closer then. Due to his mouth you have any Axe that will follow me (which is pretty good share of Axe) into war with you guys as well. Maybe next time he will appologize instead of continue to run his mouth. AXE - Where the men work hard and the girls want to play.
bow locks UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.05 15:22:00 - [46] mmmmm, goats cheese. If we ran alliances on lines of cheese preferences would it make for strange bedfellows?
Algey ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.05 15:35:00 - [47] Originally by: DeathGrip Originally by: Algey Originally by: Karunel Personally, I've always thought ISS is one of the coolest things in the game, and I always talk about them when I want to drag someone into the game. That said, it's quite obvious that they lost the north when they suddenly decided they wanted their e-peen to grow, as the most likely result as we can see is it'll end up cut. When has ISS ever had an Epeen? We're a bunch of industrialists You better go look at Lilan Kahn's posts a little closer then. Due to his mouth you have any Axe that will follow me (which is pretty good share of Axe) into war with you guys as well. Maybe next time he will appologize instead of continue to run his mouth. You listen to Lilan? Thats just unhealthy. That is like attacking ISS over Butterdog.
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.05 15:50:00 - [48] Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 05/01/2007 15:53:15 Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 05/01/2007 15:50:23 Originally by: DeathGrip You better go look at Lilan Kahn's posts a little closer then. Due to his mouth you have any Axe that will follow me (which is pretty good share of Axe) into war with you guys as well. Maybe next time he will appologize instead of continue to run his mouth. You are asking Lilan to apologize because, what? AAA were too hard for you, but Lilan, whose alliance is currently getting gangbanged, is more your PvP level, but you'd better bring some mates ... er .. lots of mates? Do you have ANY idea how it sounds, AXE saying they are coming to get an ISS pilot and getting together a huge posse to do it when you know what their current sitatuation is? Good grief man, have a talk with yourself in the mirror. Myn
Lilan Kahn Amarr ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.05 15:55:00 - [49] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 05/01/2007 15:53:15 Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 05/01/2007 15:50:23 Originally by: DeathGrip You better go look at Lilan Kahn's posts a little closer then. Due to his mouth you have any Axe that will follow me (which is pretty good share of Axe) into war with you guys as well. Maybe next time he will appologize instead of continue to run his mouth. You are asking Lilan to apologize because, what? AAA were too hard for you, but Lilan, whose alliance is currently getting gangbanged, is more your PvP level, but you'd better bring some mates ... er .. lots of mates? Do you have ANY idea how it sounds, AXE saying they are coming to get an ISS pilot and getting together a huge posse to do it when you know what their current sitatuation is? Good grief man, have a talk with yourself in the mirror. Myn i answered his question with a question his brained fryed and now its my fault, hes like the bridge keeper in the quest for the holy grail. Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication. http://www.sloganizer.net/en/image,Lilan-spc-Kahn,white,black.png
Luthien Firefoot Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.05 15:58:00 - [50] I don't have anything invested in ISS. Kill them all 'Show me your war face" YAARRRGGGGGHHHKIDNEYS...

Smoking Mirror Secret Interests Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.05 15:58:00 - [51] Edited by: Smoking Mirror on 05/01/2007 16:12:27 Originally by: DeathGrip Originally by: Algey Originally by: Karunel Personally, I've always thought ISS is one of the coolest things in the game, and I always talk about them when I want to drag someone into the game. That said, it's quite obvious that they lost the north when they suddenly decided they wanted their e-peen to grow, as the most likely result as we can see is it'll end up cut. When has ISS ever had an Epeen? We're a bunch of industrialists You better go look at Lilan Kahn's posts a little closer then. Due to his mouth you have any Axe that will follow me (which is pretty good share of Axe) into war with you guys as well. Maybe next time he will appologize instead of continue to run his mouth. A little....excitable, are we? Here is the FULL text of the reply from Lilan Kahn that sent this guy into orbit: Originally by: Lilan Kahn Shoud it effect you? And that's it. Over-react much? I guess you got kicked out of your own home, so you feel like thumping your chest and joining in on a pile-on. But I'd bet your leadership, whoever is left, mostly regards you as a drama queen.
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.05 16:01:00 - [52] ISS won't fall. Admittedly they have the potential to loose 2-3 outposts, but D2 wouldn't persue them all the way into LV territory and other places in the south. Why should they? Besides, if the money stop flowing to shareholders, so what? Most people have made back their investment, from what I hear. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Barrier Solo Infinity Shipyard Masters Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.05 20:25:00 - [53] Originally by: Karunel Personally, I've always thought ISS is one of the coolest things in the game, and I always talk about them when I want to drag someone into the game. That said, it's quite obvious that they lost the north when they suddenly decided they wanted their e-peen to grow, as the most likely result as we can see is it'll end up cut. This statement is an unfortunate result of reading IAC-spammed eve-o forums. Don't believe everything you read - including this post :-) Barrier Solo, CEO, INSM, ISS Join us! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadid=402528
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.01.05 20:48:00 - [54] Rumor is D2 are hitting Cassini and Borealis. Plus combinations of -A-, RAGOON, IAC, TCF hitting Marginis and Tycho. Tehe.. Originally by: Victor Ramirez using it to get the layout of a new system and a quick belt-check is about as practical as using Google Earth to see if your car is still in front of your house.
Grimkill The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.05 21:02:00 - [55] Goodbye ISS
Ephemeral Waves The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.01.05 21:06:00 - [56] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii I like Blue Stilton, looks like **, smells like .. tastes bloody gorgeous ! Alliaanna** Provolone. Stilton is nice but Provolone rocks! Eph. Kill Board \| Recruiting
Tinknadel Caldari ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.05 21:12:00 - [57] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Rumor is D2 are hitting Cassini and Borealis. Plus combinations of -A-, RAGOON, IAC, TCF hitting Marginis and Tycho. Tehe.. Well, you know there is something going on in the outpost systems if you just check the amount of pilots in those systems from the map feature. You'll see some big dots in catch and pure blind.
Bluestealth Minmatar Star Scream Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.01.05 21:16:00 - [58] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii I'm sorry It's friday and i'm really bored, if anyone would prefer to talk about cheese instead thats cool ? I like Blue Stilton, looks like **, smells like .. tastes bloody gorgeous ! Alliaanna** You mean you can really eat that stuff? Hmmm I may have to try some of this "Blue Stilton" when I return home. *Pokes wierd looking cheese.
Lilan Kahn Amarr ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.05 21:53:00 - [59] Have fun IAC shoting iss pos's the next 2 years Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication. http://www.sloganizer.net/en/image,Lilan-spc-Kahn,white,black.png
Ramblin Man Empyreum	Posted - 2007.01.05 23:23:00 - [60] Scenario: 1) All of ISS's stations taken 2) ISS bases out of empire for a while 3) Eventually, one of the owners of an outpost gives it to ISS 4) ISS is back in the outpost business Why would that happen? Because if an alliance doesn't want an outpost, who else would they give it to? You can whine all you want about ISS being untrustworthy and breaking X clause in Y paragraph at Z date, but the fact of the matter is that, looking at things relatively, they're still a couple AUs above everyone else in the trustworthiness and dependability departments.



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