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Surrogate	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:02:00 - [1] Edited by: Surrogate on 08/01/2007 23:21:42 The Zam Network is pleased to announce the launch of our brand-new EVE-Online website into the Allakhazam Network. This project has been in the pipe for several months now, and we are happy to officially launch it. Allakhazam sites are well known for our databases, and EVE-Online is no exception. We have a comprehensive database on our website, detailing pretty much every entity inside EVE, be it the starships and modules available to players or NPC pirates. We also have several tools to help players, such as a map to EVE where you can look up specific systems (as well as stations and ore types), a Route Planner and Jump Distance Calculator for Capital ship pilots. We also have plans for a mission database, which will emerge at some point in the near future. We have a good variety of guides on the site already, which will only continue to grow in the future. These include, among others, general guides to agent missions, piracy and EVE's criminal system, a comprehensive guide to research and manufacturing and an advanced guide to scanning. In addition, we realize that EVE-Online is a smaller MMO that has been growing steadily, and have put a large emphasis on guides to help newer players out and introducing them to the game, for example with detailed guides on mining and tackling. We appreciate your patience as we work out any bugs and tweak the site over the coming weeks. We're excited for the future of the site and the benefits we can bring to the EVE-Online Community and we hope you are too. If you have any feedback, problems, suggestions, or submissions for the site please e-mail us: [email protected]. P.S. Massive thanks to all the members of these forums who allowed us to use their guides. We sincerely hope that people will see fit to contribute to our growing collection of guides, as we expect to receive an influx of curious players from other established parts of the Allakhazam network, eager to try out EVE. P.P.S. Further thanks to the Griefwatch guys for letting us use their Killboard feed, the best thing ever since sliced mutant bread.
Kaaln Gallente Soar Angelic	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:03:00 - [2] Wow this is great. I used this site a lot when I used to play other MMO's, glad to see it's being setup for Eve!
Mitsuko Souma Gallente The United Federation of Spice	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:06:00 - [3] I for one believe Sham's guides are SUPER. He should definitely write more.
Arrgs Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:07:00 - [4] Great to see you've expanded to Eve. The site has helped me in many other MMOs. My first video!
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:12:00 - [5] I endorse this message. ---- All you do is bark. You never meow.
Nir The Doldrums	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:12:00 - [6] Originally by: Arrgs Great to see you've expanded to Eve. The site has helped me in many other MMOs. QFT - I still have you guys bookmarked from way way back. Most comprehensive MMO info databases there are. Its great being Amarr and flying NosDoms, Isn't it?!
Shzanzia Love and Rockets	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:14:00 - [7] This game is like the Little Engine That Could. Nothing stops or derails its progress. I think i can.. i think i can...i think i can
Slayton Ford Caldari Kudzu Collective	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:19:00 - [8] Now, if only Eve can get its own version of Lucy....(EQ vets know what i'm talking about).
August Personage Caldari Clarf Inc	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:22:00 - [9] looks good :)
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:22:00 - [10] Spot on
Gaius Sejanus Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:25:00 - [11] What used to be the goodness of Allakhazam was ruined the day that it was sold out to gold farmers. In EVE, it will be the ISK farmers. I will never, EVER, visit an Allakhazam site ever again so long as it exists to support the human vermin of the MMO currency farmers. Take your POS (and no, that's not a space station) site and leave us forever.
Bek Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:26:00 - [12] I support this message. I say this on my own free will, having not been threatened in any way.
Xizor Faleen	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:36:00 - [13] Edited by: Xizor Faleen on 08/01/2007 23:33:27 Originally by: Slayton Ford Now, if only Eve can get its own version of Lucy....(EQ vets know what i'm talking about). I'm still not sure how I survive day-to-day without my Lucy. /mourn EQ. Edit - wtheck, this isn't the right character, die EVE Forums, die.
Fortior STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:53:00 - [14] \o/ Very cool site, think I'll be using this quite often. Lots of goodies.
Danalog STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:55:00 - [15] As one of the two programmers, I know that we've have put a ton of work into the site, and we hope you really like it. I'd love to hear any suggestions, etc, for the site! I had a lot of fun building a website for the one MMO I actually enjoy
Helen STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:56:00 - [16] Quite simply the most awesome site ever, I've had to lie down for awhile to get over it but now its all good. Jump distance calculater could do with some functions like the ICSC one but otherwise a wellrounded site.
Daelmon Minmatar Ascent of Ages R i s e	Posted - 2007.01.09 00:06:00 - [17] Best MMOG resource web site. Glad to see one for eve.
Nadar Minmatar hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.09 00:07:00 - [18] I'm quite happy that you've finally made a site for EVE aswell. I found your site extremely good for when I used to play WoW :) --- What I write are my own opinions and it does not reflect my corp or alliance opinions, so kindly bugger off.
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.01.09 00:09:00 - [19] So you guys still sponsored by gold sellers? ------------------- ... [OK] ... zOMG!
Joerd Toastius Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 00:15:00 - [20] I simply adore the way you evemailed me to ask if you could use my guide, I filed your mail under I for "Ignore people funded by gold/isk sellers" and you went ahead and used it anyway without permission. It's nice to know your care enough to ask but not enough to give a fig what the answer is.
NAP	Posted - 2007.01.09 00:44:00 - [21] So are you going to remove the guide that you don't have permission to use as a gesture of good will to the Eve community?
Cupertino Castellum	Posted - 2007.01.09 00:54:00 - [22] I remember this site from my days of playing WoW, it had a bad reputation for spreading viruses. I won't be visiting, be wary if you do.
Marisal	Posted - 2007.01.09 00:57:00 - [23] Originally by: NAP So are you going to remove the guide that you don't have permission to use as a gesture of good will to the Eve community? I have to second this jored's guide and any other information obtained from other sources without prior permission should be removed asap.
Danalog STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.09 01:02:00 - [24] Removed the guide, I had been told we had permission, sorry if there was a misunderstanding.
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.09 01:31:00 - [25] This was my personal mistake. I'm not going to get drawn into the rest of the debate, but it was my mistake as a content manager, not Allakhazam's. I must've confused you with someone else, because I always wait for people to answer the eve-mails positively. I decided to post this on my EVE main to hammer the fact in, that it was my fault, and mine alone. The guide has already been pulled and I'm double checking all the other guides just in case and my eve-mail history on both characters I use. If anyone is going to catch flak for this, it should be just me. - Sham ---- All you do is bark. You never meow.
ginlaan	Posted - 2007.01.09 01:45:00 - [26] As always a great wealth of info to be had. Great job on the site
ollobrains Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 01:53:00 - [27] just taking a look now quite a good setup - might be a eve i replacement All posts made by myself represent my personal opinion only - they do not represent the rest of the privateer alliacne unless they decide to agree with what im saying
Daddy's Belt Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.09 02:30:00 - [28] Wow, some of those guides are REALLY out of date. Traders need an afterburner? What for? Junk. Someone's gonna get a buttwhippin'!
Christopher Scott Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen	Posted - 2007.01.09 03:38:00 - [29] It's a very nice site and all.. .. but isn't Allakhazam bought and owned by IGE? For those who don't know, IGE is a professional company that sells ingame currency for virtually every existing MMO out there. IGE claims that they do not buy gold from sweatshop-farmers, like those based in China, but they don't research any of their buyers and encourage "don't ask, don't tell." Allakhazam is already widely known for running currency-selling ads, and for one instance where an internet virus/keylogger was spread through those ad banners. IGE is known to have bought Thottbot, but I don't remember if they ended up buying Allakhazam as well.
Rastam3n	Posted - 2007.01.09 07:00:00 - [30] Originally by: Christopher Scott It's a very nice site and all.. .. but isn't Allakhazam bought and owned by IGE? They are. My guess is, we will see ISK ads in a few weeks after the site launched. Just do a search on Allakhazam IGE with your favorite search engine. Originally by: azzor.com Working to integrate all of their web properties (Ogaming, Thottbot, and Allakhazam), IGE today announced plans to create a new super-network, Zam.com. This new MMO network is being spun to the community as if Allakhazam had purchased Ogaming when it was himself who was bought out. We thought the truth should be known.
Unvisibility	Posted - 2007.01.09 08:14:00 - [31] And so we see CCP's true stance on ISK-buying again. A site run by the largest RMT company there is advertised on EVE-O forums and stickied Why don't CCP just come out and be honest about it - EVE is now an RMT game, sanctioned, condoned and supported by CCP. Of course once they realise that IGE are actually in competition with the GTC RMT then maybe they'll think again about helping publicise ISK sellers like Allakhazam...

Karl Chroimcer Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.09 08:43:00 - [32] Originally by: Unvisibility And so we see CCP's true stance on ISK-buying again. A site run by the largest RMT company there is advertised on EVE-O forums and stickied Why don't CCP just come out and be honest about it - EVE is now an RMT game, sanctioned, condoned and supported by CCP. Of course once they realise that IGE are actually in competition with the GTC RMT then maybe they'll think again about helping publicise ISK sellers like Allakhazam... Looking at that site, I do not see one ISK selling advertisement or any links to purchase or hints on where to purchase in-game currency. In fact, you are promoting it more than Allakhazam is right now. The Aussie Mod

Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.01.09 09:01:00 - [33] This looks like a awesome site to me. I specially like the guides... there are some nice stuff in there. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Allakhazam
Surrogate	Posted - 2007.01.09 09:15:00 - [34] Edited by: Surrogate on 09/01/2007 09:27:45 Originally by: Christopher Scott It's a very nice site and all.. .. but isn't Allakhazam bought and owned by IGE? For those who don't know, IGE is a professional company that sells ingame currency for virtually every existing MMO out there. IGE claims that they do not buy gold from sweatshop-farmers, like those based in China, but they don't research any of their buyers and encourage "don't ask, don't tell." Originally by: Unvisibility And so we see CCP's true stance on ISK-buying again. A site run by the largest RMT company there is advertised on EVE-O forums and stickied Why don't CCP just come out and be honest about it - EVE is now an RMT game, sanctioned, condoned and supported by CCP. Of course once they realise that IGE are actually in competition with the GTC RMT then maybe they'll think again about helping publicise ISK sellers like Allakhazam... Allakhazam has a very definite stance on RMT. This may sound contradictory to the tinfoil hats but website policy is against RMT advertisment and discussions of it. IGE has no ad space for their RMT businesses on the website, and never will. In fact, we permaban people that advertise RMT on the website. Allakhazam is also not exactly owned by IGE. Both companies are owned by the same group, and are run seperately. Early on in the merger the decision was made to keep the businesses seperate for various reasons, including the RMT issue. This means limited or no contact between the two websites, no advertisments, no special deals, promotions or endorsements, etc. Originally by: Daddy's Belt Wow, some of those guides are REALLY out of date. Traders need an afterburner? What for? Junk. Kaaii's introductory guide to trading was one of the best ones around, despite being more than two years old. Some artifacts snuck in, but we tried to update it a bit (especially with regards to the recent removal of instajumps) without changing anything significant. The continued benefit of afterburners on trading industrials is also quite debatable, sir, if we are to go into that. What else are you putting in your midslots?
Christopher Scott Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen	Posted - 2007.01.09 09:34:00 - [35] Originally by: Karl Chroimcer Looking at that site, I do not see one ISK selling advertisement or any links to purchase or hints on where to purchase in-game currency. In fact, you are promoting it more than C is right now. Please, direct your attention to here: Azzor Article Which discusses the buyout of Allakhazam, changing it to Zam.com, which is also merged with Thottbot.com and OGaming.com Proof here: Official Announcement Originally by: Administrator Allakhazam is pleased to announce that we have added several new sites to our network and have joined them together to form the Zam.com Network which is now instantly the leading content destination for all MMO gamers. The new Zam.com Network will consist of newly expanded and improved versions of Allakhazam.com and Thottbot.com. In addition, the assets and content of OGaming.com (and the interface sites) and L2Orphus.com will be integrated into the existing Allakhazam network. This will add multiple new games to our site, more than double our personnel and give us the flexibility to add more features, better service and expanded coverage. What the announcement forgot to mention, was that Zam.com was bought, created, and now owned by IGE. Or to be more precise, they are owned by the parent company that also owns IGE. That is, until it was mentioned here: Originally by: Administrator The ownership issues here are convoluted. This is how deals like this get done. The size of this is pretty amazing. This is just the announcement for our own users, not the actual corporate announcement, which will likely come much later. We are now owned by a company that owns a bunch of stuff, including IGE. A further analysis of the Zam.com announcement, as well as the responses from the administrator, can be found here: Allakhazam Sells Out to IGE. This information may be unknown to the EVE community, but it is widely known by the communities of Everquest, WoW, L2, and SWG, to name a few. Thottbot.com and OGaming.com are notorious for advertising IGE and other currency-selling companies. Allakhazam is also known for not only running these same kinds of ads, but spreading a large keylogger virus through an infected banner. It has happened several times already, just check Google to see all the proof. Older WoW players will remember the account-stealing epidemic that was caused by this. Need I really say more?

Karl Chroimcer Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.09 09:40:00 - [36] Originally by: Christopher Scott SNIP First off, i'm aware of all these facts. Perhaps you read my post wrong? I do believe I said I saw no evidence on their site that they promote ISK selling (Which is true). They are owned by the Parent company of IGE, not IGE. That is completely different than being owned by IGE. The Aussie Mod

Dekiri Exanimo Inc	Posted - 2007.01.09 10:47:00 - [37] Edited by: Dekiri on 09/01/2007 10:48:18 I remember when allakhazam was still just an erudite wizard=P Amazing job done from that point back in i think 1999. Whoever bought the site from the original creator has done a nice job to expand the network and setup game specific resource sites. Although he got a lot of ** for selling out (who would not have taken the money though) i think he was a real pioneer. To the haters, i am also aware of the fact that a lot of BS happened in the past with that network, but atm it seems relativly clean. No currency sale adds or anything in that direction even though it is technically part of the IGE business structure. --------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. Or contact cptblood or kakanur**
Hehulk Black Sea Industries	Posted - 2007.01.09 11:17:00 - [38] Funny, I remeber this happening early 2006/late 2005 and the community gave you 5 pages of no, sod off. How times change ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it
Reiisha Satal's Legion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.09 11:31:00 - [39] Originally by: Surrogate Allakhazam has a very definite stance on RMT. This may sound contradictory to the tinfoil hats but website policy is against RMT advertisment and discussions of it. IGE has no ad space for their RMT businesses on the website, and never will. In fact, we permaban people that advertise RMT on the website. Allakhazam is also not exactly owned by IGE. Both companies are owned by the same group, and are run seperately. Early on in the merger the decision was made to keep the businesses seperate for various reasons, including the RMT issue. This means limited or no contact between the two websites, no advertisments, no special deals, promotions or endorsements, etc. Isn't it true that wow.allakhazam pretty much doubles gold prices mentioned on all items in the DB to make more people buy gold? I for one noticed that most, if not all, price indications of items are WAY above what they are worth, and what they normally go for. EVE History Wiki - Help us fill it!
Alexi Borizkova Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2007.01.09 11:41:00 - [40] Originally by: Hehulk Funny, I remeber this happening early 2006/late 2005 and the community gave you 5 pages of no, sod off. How times change i looked and looked for that thread, to the point of reviewing everything I ever posted in, to no avail. It might just be the 5am speaking, or the sleep deprivation, but I just can't find it. Anyone else happen to bookmark it, or be smarter than I am?
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.09 11:47:00 - [41] Originally by: Reiisha Originally by: Surrogate Allakhazam has a very definite stance on RMT. This may sound contradictory to the tinfoil hats but website policy is against RMT advertisment and discussions of it. IGE has no ad space for their RMT businesses on the website, and never will. In fact, we permaban people that advertise RMT on the website. Allakhazam is also not exactly owned by IGE. Both companies are owned by the same group, and are run seperately. Early on in the merger the decision was made to keep the businesses seperate for various reasons, including the RMT issue. This means limited or no contact between the two websites, no advertisments, no special deals, promotions or endorsements, etc. Isn't it true that wow.allakhazam pretty much doubles gold prices mentioned on all items in the DB to make more people buy gold? I for one noticed that most, if not all, price indications of items are WAY above what they are worth, and what they normally go for. I dunno about you Reiisha, but I've noticed that the gold value of items and trade goods tends to differ between servers, and I believe the gold value in the Allakhazam database is based on values fetched through the WoWReader software that alot of Allakhazam users use. "Buffing up" gold values in the database to encourage gold buying, and at the same time running a hard policy against advertising gold selling... sounds counterproductive. And slightly pointless. ---- All you do is bark. You never meow.
Awox I Fought Piranhas	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:29:00 - [42] Allakhaza offers nothing that any other EVE fansites already does. So why was this stickied? There's only a few explanations: a) IGE & CCP have some arrangement b) IGE & One of CCP's employees have some arrangement c) Forum mod who doesn't actually play EVE genuinely thought this site was just what the community needs, or more likely: c) Forum mod got some incentive to make this site known? Allakhaza sells out to IGE The truth about IGE and the gold industry Please un-sticky and delete this post. I believe this is a scam.
Kaaii Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:33:00 - [43] ' I used to camp allakhazam's web site, back in the first days of EQ. Most of my info about the game camp from here, from the quests, to the tradeskill recipes. When "the tunnel" was the place to be on a sat afternoon's buying spree. But what ****ed me off most about the site was after all the players submitting recipes/quests/drops/infos and "guides" loaded the site up nitely, you all cut off all but "paying" subscribers (premium service) to use the very material we as a collective entity had submitted... Trading 101
Marisal	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:33:00 - [44] Edited by: Marisal on 09/01/2007 12:30:47 Double Post
Marisal	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:34:00 - [45] Originally by: Awox Allakhaza offers nothing that any other EVE fansites already does. So why was this stickied? There's only a few explanations: a) IGE & CCP have some arrangement b) IGE & One of CCP's employees have some arrangement c) Forum mod who doesn't actually play EVE genuinely thought this site was just what the community needs, or more likely: c) Forum mod got some incentive to make this site known? Allakhaza sells out to IGE The truth about IGE and the gold industry Please un-sticky and delete this post. I believe this is a scam. Hate to ***** out the tin foil hats but yuh in effect all this site does is duplicate the useful links list at the top of the eve profession forums. There are plenty of other sites that have gone by in just the past few weeks that were new and fresh and very good. They should have been stickied but havent. An explination by the Mods is required.
Marisal	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:37:00 - [46] Originally by: Kaaii ' I used to camp allakhazam's web site, back in the first days of EQ. Most of my info about the game camp from here, from the quests, to the tradeskill recipes. When "the tunnel" was the place to be on a sat afternoon's buying spree. But what ****ed me off most about the site was after all the players submitting recipes/quests/drops/infos and "guides" loaded the site up nitely, you all cut off all but "paying" subscribers (premium service) to use the very material we as a collective entity had submitted... Don't think they can do that with some of that data as it uses CCP's data export and they stipulate that it can't be used for commercial purposes. Would mean having to rip out a good portion of the site. Plus the guides are freely available on every other site in eve so who'd pay for something they can get free.
Awox I Fought Piranhas	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:38:00 - [47] Originally by: Marisal Originally by: Awox Allakhaza offers nothing that any other EVE fansites already does. So why was this stickied? There's only a few explanations: a) IGE & CCP have some arrangement b) IGE & One of CCP's employees have some arrangement c) Forum mod who doesn't actually play EVE genuinely thought this site was just what the community needs, or more likely: c) Forum mod got some incentive to make this site known? Allakhaza sells out to IGE The truth about IGE and the gold industry Please un-sticky and delete this post. I believe this is a scam. Hate to ***** out the tin foil hats but yuh in effect all this site does is duplicate the useful links list at the top of the eve profession forums. There are plenty of other sites that have gone by in just the past few weeks that were new and fresh and very good. They should have been stickied but havent. An explination by the Mods is required. I am pleased you at least agree a proper explanation by the mods is required.
Marisal	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:44:00 - [48] Originally by: Awox I am pleased you at least agree a proper explanation by the mods is required. True but 10 iskies says the automated response system kicks in aka, "we do not discuss forum moderation on the forums"
Awox I Fought Piranhas	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:46:00 - [49] Originally by: Dekiri No currency sale adds or anything in that direction For now. Originally by: Dekiri though it is technically part of the IGE business structure. Coincidence that the board of directors of the holding company that owns IGE buys a website which could be a great advertising tool? Can you tell me one other reason owning a website like this might be profitable besides advertising revenue?
Dagny Caldari Oldschool	Posted - 2007.01.09 13:13:00 - [50] Thumbs up. Arguing that getting a sticky in a forum therefore "endorsing gold sales" = one way ticket to retardville. It doesn't matter if Allakhazam is owned by IGE, the Red Cross or Nike - the site is there for information for players (and non-players). Getting a foot into the allakhazam network might bring a positive influx of new players, which should be beneficial. So, in other words, don't like it? Don't go there. Simple as that. Kudos to Sham for guiding guides, they are guidelicious. --- This is my signature, there are many like it, but this one is mine.
Sir Erighan Caldari Blue Star Enterprises	Posted - 2007.01.09 13:20:00 - [51] Maybe it was stickied because it's one of the few sites, if not only one, that actually have a Revelations Item Database....
Sir Erighan Caldari Blue Star Enterprises	Posted - 2007.01.09 13:20:00 - [52] Maybe it was stickied because it's one of the few sites, if not only one, that actually have a Revelations Item Database....
Marisal	Posted - 2007.01.09 13:36:00 - [53] Edited by: Marisal on 09/01/2007 13:33:53 Originally by: Sir Erighan Maybe it was stickied because it's one of the few sites, if not only one, that actually have a Revelations Item Database.... 1. http://eve.grismar.net/wikka.php?wakka=WikiHome 2. http://www.drome.nl/eve/ 3. http://eve.battleclinic.com/eve_online/item_database.php All well know established respected members of the community with uptodate item databases
Sir Erighan Caldari Blue Star Enterprises	Posted - 2007.01.09 13:58:00 - [54] Originally by: Marisal Edited by: Marisal on 09/01/2007 13:33:53 Originally by: Sir Erighan Maybe it was stickied because it's one of the few sites, if not only one, that actually have a Revelations Item Database.... 1. http://eve.grismar.net/wikka.php?wakka=WikiHome 2. http://www.drome.nl/eve/ 3. http://eve.battleclinic.com/eve_online/item_database.php All well know established respected members of the community with uptodate item databases Thanks! CCP has a lot of catching up to do
omghax0r	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:13:00 - [55] Originally by: Marisal Edited by: Marisal on 09/01/2007 13:33:53 Originally by: Sir Erighan Maybe it was stickied because it's one of the few sites, if not only one, that actually have a Revelations Item Database.... 1. http://eve.grismar.net/wikka.php?wakka=WikiHome 2. http://www.drome.nl/eve/ 3. http://eve.battleclinic.com/eve_online/item_database.php All well know established respected members of the community with uptodate item databases Don't forget http://eve.coldfront.net/db, which had (IIRC) the first public Revelations item db, if only by a couple of hours. ;)
Marisal	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:17:00 - [56] Originally by: omghax0r Originally by: Marisal Edited by: Marisal on 09/01/2007 13:33:53 Originally by: Sir Erighan Maybe it was stickied because it's one of the few sites, if not only one, that actually have a Revelations Item Database.... 1. http://eve.grismar.net/wikka.php?wakka=WikiHome 2. http://www.drome.nl/eve/ 3. http://eve.battleclinic.com/eve_online/item_database.php All well know established respected members of the community with uptodate item databases Don't forget http://eve.coldfront.net/db, which had (IIRC) the first public Revelations item db, if only by a couple of hours. ;) Yup sorry bout that my bookmarks are a little messy

Devil Hanzo Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:43:00 - [57] Posts discussing moderation (like why this post was stickied) should go to [email protected]. Ive removed the posts concerning why the thread was stickied, and if you think it was the wrong decision, you should mail us and tell us why. We wont discuss moderation here since its not allowed by the forum rules. Now please get back on topic. King of the Pink Sig - Karl Chroimcer Its red and very manly! - Devil Hanzo First sigjack by me ever. - Garthagk Violet would be even manlier - Conuion Meow

Marisal	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:46:00 - [58] Originally by: Devil Hanzo Posts discussing moderation (like why this post was stickied) should go to [email protected]. Ive removed the posts concerning why the thread was stickied, and if you think it was the wrong decision, you should mail us and tell us why. We wont discuss moderation here since its not allowed by the forum rules. Now please get back on topic. You've also just deleted a number of posts that had nothing to do with the moderation of this thread that contained links to other sites offering similar services that have been around for a long time.
Twin blade Minmatar The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:02:00 - [59] This is great i used to use it for FF11 when i played and it was alot of help hope it is as good with eve as it was with ff11. !

Devil Hanzo Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:08:00 - [60] Originally by: Marisal Originally by: Devil Hanzo Posts discussing moderation (like why this post was stickied) should go to [email protected]. Ive removed the posts concerning why the thread was stickied, and if you think it was the wrong decision, you should mail us and tell us why. We wont discuss moderation here since its not allowed by the forum rules. Now please get back on topic. You've also just deleted a number of posts that had nothing to do with the moderation of this thread that contained links to other sites offering similar services that have been around for a long time. The links to other sites were removed since they were part of discussing moderation, and the debate over why this post was stickied. Feel free to repost them again if you just want to share their existence with the rest of the players. King of the Pink Sig - Karl Chroimcer Its red and very manly! - Devil Hanzo First sigjack by me ever. - Garthagk Violet would be even manlier - Conuion Meow

ToxicFire Warlords Corp The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:12:00 - [61] Edited by: ToxicFire on 09/01/2007 15:09:23 Join the save Stargate SG1 Campaign Today! http://savestargatesg1.com/
Alexi Borizkova Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:18:00 - [62] Originally by: Twin blade This is great i used to use it for FF11 when i played and it was alot of help hope it is as good with eve as it was with ff11. As did I, until they became linked to IGE, and people i knew and spent time with asked them to remove the guides and other content they provided for the community due to their being opposed to alla's new "partners", and more often than not, alla refused. The content provided by the fans was their cash cow, IT was why people logged on to the site, and why they paid the site money to access the content created freely by community members. Be warned now, once they get their hooks onto the things you provide, or whatever they can just lay their hands onto, and later change their minds about their philosophy or methods, you'll be out of luck if you want out. This is a moneymaking site, it wants your cash, it hungers for your cash, and will at every turn try to milk it from you. Up to now, the community of eve has taken care of its own often at great personal expense, because of their love of the game. Gret sites like eve-i, eve files, and even eve-radio have (or had) true fans devoted to the game and the players giving their hearts to the community, and might pass the hat around at times, but allakhazam charges an entrance fee up front, bold as brass, and is a true business. I use many tools in my eve play, provided player to player, and coordinated by the community here. Allakhazam will try to "consolidate" them into one place for convenience, and at first it will seem like a great idea, until the old sites shut down, and people migrate to the alla forums, and then they start charging admission. Mark my words, this place is a business that wants to sell you what you already get for free, and will kill the competition if they can. Eve doesn't need their service, we've gotten along fine for years without it, with our great community and fanbase serving us all, and we're too smart to fall for oppurtunistic vultures that have smelled eve's success and come circling.
omghax0r	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:38:00 - [63] Reposting deleted links to other item DBs. http://eve.grismar.net/wikka.php?wakka=WikiHome http://www.drome.nl/eve/ http://eve.battleclinic.com/eve_online/item_database.php and of course my personal favourite http://eve.coldfront.net/db
ToxicFire Warlords Corp The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:51:00 - [64] Route Planner is broken. Has me going through 0.0 when i select safer route when I know theres a longer route that doesn't go through 0.0 and will take me between two empire destinations. Join the save Stargate SG1 Campaign Today! http://savestargatesg1.com/
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.01.09 17:45:00 - [65] I saw "Premium Membership" something on the top of your menu and closed the site again. --- We are Recruiting!
Firecrak	Posted - 2007.01.09 18:04:00 - [66] Good work, your DAOC department sure did help out alot in the past.
JR Cash	Posted - 2007.01.09 18:11:00 - [67] Originally by: Alexi Borizkova Originally by: Hehulk Funny, I remeber this happening early 2006/late 2005 and the community gave you 5 pages of no, sod off. How times change i looked and looked for that thread, to the point of reviewing everything I ever posted in, to no avail. It might just be the 5am speaking, or the sleep deprivation, but I just can't find it. Anyone else happen to bookmark it, or be smarter than I am? Linkage
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.01.09 20:22:00 - [68] When I played SWG, the SWG section was hopelessly out of date, as soon as a new feature was introduced, it immediatly went up, but it was obviously a rush job, and the details wee never fixed. Almost like the SWG devs were writing it?
WrathchildeVOTF	Posted - 2007.01.09 20:38:00 - [69] Originally by: Reiisha Originally by: Surrogate Allakhazam has a very definite stance on RMT. This may sound contradictory to the tinfoil hats but website policy is against RMT advertisment and discussions of it. IGE has no ad space for their RMT businesses on the website, and never will. In fact, we permaban people that advertise RMT on the website. Allakhazam is also not exactly owned by IGE. Both companies are owned by the same group, and are run seperately. Early on in the merger the decision was made to keep the businesses seperate for various reasons, including the RMT issue. This means limited or no contact between the two websites, no advertisments, no special deals, promotions or endorsements, etc. Isn't it true that wow.allakhazam pretty much doubles gold prices mentioned on all items in the DB to make more people buy gold? I for one noticed that most, if not all, price indications of items are WAY above what they are worth, and what they normally go for. I'll actually defend Allakhazam on this one. Even way back in my EQ days the price ranges on items was wrong. Someone always put in a grossly astronomical price or three and skewed the averages. I pretty much stopped using the site when I went to EQ2, as Ogaming got a better start on the Beta info, but the EQ2 Ogaming site forwards to Alla now. I will say that if Allakhazam does indeed keep the isk ads off the site, it could be a very good resource. Illya and the rest of the folks pioneered MMO resource sites, and can do a very good job of it. I may not be ecstatic about using a company that is related to IGE at all, but if they keep it out of my face, I'll give it a looksee.

kieron	Posted - 2007.01.09 21:12:00 - [70] CCP does not support portals or networks with known associations to RMT traders and have made this stance known to all such sites that have approached either Pann or myself for support. That is the reason why portals such as Coldfront and Ten Ton Hammer appear in the Community Fansite listing and others are conspicuously absent. I am locking this thread. The decision to keep the thread open and apply a sticky to it were made in error and for that I apologize. It was an error that will not be duplicated in the future. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online


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